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A Jewish King And Queen Of England? It's Possible

Posted: 06/17/11 09:35 AM ET

Two unrelated Jews from different walks of life meet in an unlikely place and discover they are connected. You've heard that story before in Jewish folklore. Well, it happened to me recently.

It was a few days before Passover. I had three hours to kill after leaving a meeting on West 57th Street in Manhattan before joining my wife and friends for dinner followed by a show at Lincoln Center. It was a gorgeous sunny day, rare for the miserable winter we were experiencing. So I walked over to the new plaza at Lincoln Center. While I was taking in the sun in front of Avery Fisher Hall, a young Hasid approached me. "Are you Jewish?" he asked. "Yes," I answered. He then asked me to put on tefillin and say a prayer.

It's been a long time since I put on tefillin and I was not keen on doing it right there on the plaza of Lincoln Center. I tried to squirm out. "I've got an appointment and have to leave," I told him. He persisted. And he seemed so sincere and eager to perform this mitzvah, persuading someone he probably perceived as a wayward son of Israel to perform a Jewish ritual, that I caved. "OK. I'll do it."

I removed my jacket and rolled up my shirt sleeve as he began winding the tefillin around my arm. I pointed to the leather box and said, "Oh, that has scripture from Deuteronomy and Exodus."

He was surprised that I knew that.

"Well, I've taken Torah classes with Rabbi Simon Jacobson," I told him, hoping he would realize that I wasn't a total idiot about Judaism. "Do you know him?"

"Oh, yes," he responded. "He's a brilliant speaker and he has a newspaper."

"Yes, I know: The Algemeiner Journal. I write for it."

He couldn't have been more shocked that this apparent apostate contributed to this prominent Jewish newspaper. "Do you know Dovid Efune?"

"Of course," I said. "He's the editor and I speak to him from time to time." Again an astonished reaction.

In an excited tone, he spilled out, "He's my brother-in-law. He married my sister last year."

"Isn't that interesting," I said. "At Rabbi Jacobson's Rosh Hashanah dinner this past year I sat next to your sister and brother-in-law."

He almost fell over. "You know, nothing happens by accident." For him, it was a divine intervention, too unlikely to be an accident. Perhaps he was right.

That being said, what's the chance of running into two Jews at Buckingham Palace and discovering that they are the King and Queen of England? Farfetched you say. Some curious emerging facts suggest that it could happen.

When the Royal Wedding uniting Kate Middleton and Prince William was announced, genealogy sleuths got to work. At first, the buzz indicated that Kate's mother, Carole Goldsmith (maiden name), had Jewish ancestry. If Carole Goldsmith were Jewish then, according to Jewish law, her daughter Kate Middleton would be considered Jewish -- and could become the first Jewish Queen (Consort) of England. But alas, investigators still believing that there was a Jewish heritage in Kate's lineage found that the last five generations of her family were married in churches. Of course, that doesn't rule out that some may have been secret Jews, which was true for many Jews during the Inquisition. Other sources still suspect Jewish lineage for Kate. And according to an Orthodox Sephardic Rabbi in Israel, both parents of Kate's mother were Jewish. So the question of Jew or not a Jew for Kate is still open.

But wait, the plot thickens. Could Princess Diana, William's mother, have been Jewish? One source maintains that Princess Diana's mother, Frances Shand Kydd, was Jewish -- born Frances Ruth Burke Roche, a Rothschild.

If factual, that would be sufficient for Princess Diana to be certified Jewish, as well as her son, William, the future King of England. Another investigation of ancestry details a strong Davidic connection for Frances and her descendents

Other intriguing bits of "evidence" and speculation have been cited in the London Daily Mail, which quotes sources that claim that Diana was conceived during her mother's affair with the Jewish banker tycoon Sir James Goldsmith (originally Goldschmidt and no apparent relationship to Carole Goldsmith). The report says that Frances was estranged from her husband, Earl Spencer (Viscount Althorp), and had an affair with Sir James Goldsmith just at the time that Diana was conceived. Strengthening the case, a report points to striking resemblances between Princess Diana and Sir James Goldsmith's other three children, Zak, Ben and Jemima Goldsmith.

If these tidings are true then Diana would be thoroughly Jewish with a Jewish mother (Frances Ruth Burke Roche aka Rothschild) and a Jewish father (Sir James Goldsmith). In turn William, the future King of England, would have deep Jewish roots.

What a myseh (story). Sholem Aleichem and Isaac Bashevis Singer couldn't have told it better.

 
 
 

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bbertaud
Je ne regrette rien, rien de rien
01:45 PM on 06/20/2011
If it ever happens...I hope they are Reform...
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Indigo1941
Time traveler.
08:02 AM on 06/19/2011
Dear Rabbi,
Don't be so surprised. Maybe you don't know many Gentiles personally but if you'd take the time to get acquainted, you'd find that there's more of us with a Jewish ancestor in the background than you realize.
-My great-grandmother on my dad's side was.
05:46 PM on 06/18/2011
Re your comment about a Jewish King and Queen of England. Thought they were future King and Queen of BRITAIN. Since when has England separated from the rest of the UK???????
06:45 AM on 06/20/2011
he forgot that the monarch is head of the Church of England . . . the C of E may be liberal . .but not that liberal . . . .
10:00 PM on 06/20/2011
With facts pointing to Elizabeth 2 having a genealogy to Jews and Judaism, she may be a convert to Talmudic-Judaism and would explain her association/ friendship with the House of Rothschild. This is beyond diplomatic ties to Jews, thus the head of the Church of England is not a Gentile, neither is William, regardless of Diana's bloodline. The ramifications of this are beyond social. Elizabeth 2 is head of sixteen U.N. Member-States, head of the Common Wealth of 54 countries. The writing is on the wall for the royal family to make a claim for Israel. This is ominous, indeed.
12:38 PM on 06/18/2011
This article is not pointless. Nor the issue of "Jewish" a question.

There is evidence E2 is from the royal line of king David of Israel.

Historically a portion of the Tribe of Judah became Jews (Judaism).

These royals are friendly with Jews and openly accept all their ways.
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french queen13
my beloved is mine and I am his
03:01 AM on 06/18/2011
A pointless sort of article. Have the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge any cultural or religious connection with Judaism? No, they have not. One can play all sorts of games with genealogy and none of them really means anything. Saying "they're Jewish" has about as much relevance, whatever the timelines, as saying "they're Celts" or "they're Saxons". They're English and Anglican; those are the relevant ancestral, cultural and religious themes.
10:07 AM on 06/18/2011
Yes, fun is pointless.
01:01 AM on 06/18/2011
But it wouldn't matter if all involved are baptized and confirmed Christisns in the Church of England. In fact it's a moot point. Sorry, it would be cool but it's nit true
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ExiledMan
I have no need for religion, I have a conscience.
09:03 PM on 06/17/2011
Let's put another spin on it. The Royal family came from Germanic roots, their original name being Saxe Coburg Gotha and Edward VIII was a Nazi sympathiser during WW2 so had the Germans succeeded, where would that have put you, not in ine for the throne I assure you.
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ExiledMan
I have no need for religion, I have a conscience.
09:33 PM on 06/17/2011
*line*
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QuarkGluonSoup
02:08 AM on 06/18/2011
Actually the line traces directly back to William and Mary, and indirectly to Henry V
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french queen13
my beloved is mine and I am his
02:56 AM on 06/18/2011
William and Mary? As in William III and Mary II? No line traces directly to them, they left no children. Nor does Henry V, since his one child (Henry VI) had only one child (Edward Prince of Wales) and his line ends there. The descent from Katherine de Valois isn't connected to Henry V at all, it's Tudor. "Indirect descent" is a weird term ... it's like saying your uncle is sort of your father.
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ExiledMan
I have no need for religion, I have a conscience.
05:59 AM on 06/18/2011
Keep researching; my point was that the Royal Family, as they stand, are a mish mash like most families and had their lineage drawn from Germanic roots among others.

If you want to be pedantic about it, Princess Diana, (a commoner) has more of a royal blood line than Charles, being a direct descendant of Charles II through illegitimate sons of his.
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08:46 PM on 06/17/2011
This means very little. It is well known in genealogical circles that one ancestoral line of Queen Victoria includes Muhammad. We don't have people running around calling the British Royal Family Muslims.
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Zen0469
An empty micro-bio is a happy micro-bio.
07:32 PM on 06/17/2011
Bit of a stretch, but amusing nonetheless.
07:25 PM on 06/17/2011
it seems once someone is famous or rich, even the most remote or imagined connection to the group can pass the purity test in an attempt to garner influence.
07:07 PM on 06/17/2011
DNA tests could end the speculation.
06:29 PM on 06/17/2011
It just goes to show you that all white European and American Christians have Jewish cultural and biological roots and that their historic anti-Semitism is an absurd form of self-loathing that has resulted only in the suffering of their own kin.

Of course, it also begs the question of why the subset of Jews and Christians who consider themselves Zionists demand that Israel be forever Jewish, when Jews can live as kings, queens and average citizens of traditionally Christian or mixed-faith nations.
12:20 PM on 06/20/2011
Tell you what. You go to Israel and tell me how nay kings and queens you see. Also tell me what legal privileges does the law provide Jews over their "subjects." You comment is a bigoted lie.
03:08 PM on 06/24/2011
I never said that they are kings and queens there. My point is that if they can live in peace and prosperity everywhere else, then there is no reason for their artificial domination there.
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irochfpst
no right turn
06:09 PM on 06/17/2011
whats the point? if we all go back far enough you will probably find we had the same parents but you wouldn't know it by the way everyone behaves toward others.
05:07 PM on 06/17/2011
Nonsense, the monarch who is head of the Church of England must swear to be a Protestant and to uphold the Protestant religion of England and Scotland.
06:51 AM on 06/20/2011
ditto . . . I think the professsor emeritas has too much time on his hands
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cdncommentator
11:59 PM on 07/05/2011
In terms of being Jewish, that wouldn't matter. Being Jewish is a matter of tribal/national identity primarily, with religious observance coming no where near ancestry in importance.
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Paperless Tiger
05:03 PM on 06/17/2011
If you go back far enough it was all one religion anyway. Even the Pagan gods (planets) correspond directly to the Sephirot of the Kabbalah. Shalom.