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Bil Browning

Posted: November 19, 2009 10:26 PM

Good News or Bad Ideas? States Re-examine Marriage Amendments

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The marriage equality drumbeat has rumbled on with news that several states will be attempting to re-examine their state constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage and/or civil unions. Surprisingly, this hasn't received as much attention as I assumed it would in the LGBT blogosphere.

question-mark3a.jpgOhio state representative Tyrone K. Yates (D-Cincinnati), Kentucky state representative Mary Lou Marzian (D-Jefferson), and Michigan House Speaker Pro Tem Pam Byrnes (D-Washtenaw County) have all introduced legislation to repeal their state's respective marriage amendments.

Texas Attorney General candidate Barbara Radnofsky, however, has discovered that the state's amendment also inadvertently "eliminates marriage in Texas," including common-law marriages. A Texas judge ruled the state's amendment was unconstitutional last month.

None of the four states are known for their LGBT-friendly laws which raises an interesting conundrum. Will the four states re-examination of their marriage equality amendments actually help the LGBT community or will it hurt us instead?

Prop 82: Faster, Fiercer, & More Fabulous!

It doesn't look as if the bills in Kentucky, Ohio and Michigan are going anywhere. The Columbus Dispatch says the chances of repealing Ohio's ban on same-sex marriage is minuscule.

The resolution is, to say the least, a long shot to pass. Making the ballot requires a three-fifths vote of each chamber. Even if every Democrat voted yes (an unlikely prospect), it would fall well short of the required votes.

The Michigan Messenger tells us what would be required to change current state law.

Byrnes, a Democrat from Washtenaw County's Lyndon Township, introduced a package of bills which includes: a repeal of of the Constitutional amendment, which will require a two-thirds vote of both chambers of the legislature; a bill to explicitly legalize same-sex marriage in Michigan; and a bill to remove state law restrictions which prevent Michigan from recognizing same-sex marriages performed in another state.


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Byrnes announcement on Wednesday came less than 24 hours after Kalamazoo voters overwhelmingly approved an ordinance to prohibiting discrimination on the basis of, among other things, sexual orientation and gender identity. Those same voters in Kalamazoo voted openly gay resident Terry Kuseke to the city commission.

The Kentucky Equality Federation explains how they plan to proceed on overturning their same-sex marriage ban.

If this passes both the Kentucky House and Senate and voters ratify it, lawmakers would then be able to legislate domestic-partnerships, or civil unions, such as the new domestic partnership law in the state of Washington.

The overarching theme here is that none of these measures have a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding. Still, for the sake of argument, let's say all of these bills passed their respective state legislatures and goes to the voters.

As California gears up for the sequel to Prop 8, we already know that a lot of our LGBT orgs, foundations and political donors will be sending bucketloads of cash to try and win back what was lost. Can you imagine if someplace like Kentucky also has a measure on the ballot?

Kentucky would get short shrift like Florida and Arizona did when Prop 8 was on the ballot. If nothing else, the referendums would fail to advance our rights simply for lack of support from the larger LGBT community. As in Arizona and Florida, the powers-that-be and common sense would tell us that California would be a safer bet for our energy and dollars if we truly want to win a ballot initiative.

The Meat of the Matter

So what's the point? Why put these bills out there? The answer, of course, is politics.

Since the LGBT community has put such a premium on our marriage rights, politicians are now clamoring to prove how gay friendly they are because they support same-sex marriage. Their support for a measure that they know isn't going anywhere doesn't cost them much political capital but brings attention from LGBT donors and voters.

In Texas, our "fierce champion" is a candidate for office that doesn't seem to give a flying f--k about our rights as citizens, but more out of scoring political points against her Republican opponent -- the current Attorney General.

She calls it a "massive mistake" and blames the current attorney general, Republican Greg Abbott, for allowing the language to become part of the Texas Constitution. Radnofsky called on Abbott to acknowledge the wording as an error and consider an apology. She also said that another constitutional amendment may be necessary to reverse the problem.


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Radnofsky acknowledged that the clause is not likely to result in an overnight dismantling of marriages in Texas. But she said the wording opens the door to legal claims involving spousal rights, insurance claims, inheritance and a host of other marriage-related issues.

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Radnofsky, the Democratic nominee in the Senate race against Kay Bailey Hutchison in 2006, said she voted against the amendment but didn't realize the legal implications until she began poring over the Texas Constitution to prepare for the attorney general's race. She said she holds Abbott and his office responsible for not catching what she calls an "error of massive proportions."

Since Dallas District Judge Tena Callahan ruled the amendment unconstitutional because it stands in the way of gay divorces, the amendment is already going to be tied up in the courts for a while. While it could be argued that Radnofsky is attempting to provide some cover to state legislators to simply repeal the amendment altogether, if so it's a rather weak by-product.

Getting Back to the Basics

All four states have something else in common as well. Texas, Ohio, Michigan, and Kentucky laws do not address discrimination based on gender identity or sexual orientation. Does anyone seriously think that any of these flyover states are going to okay same-sex marriage when they can't get it together long enough to pass laws protecting us from discrimination in employment?

This is the danger of letting straight people think that marriage is the top priority for the LGBT community or lulling ourselves into thinking that it is. Many of us non-coastal queers don't have any protections whatsoever. Talking about the most controversial, knee-jerk LGBT issues while skipping over the items with public approval isn't just political stupidity, it's almost criminal.

Politicians who score political points simply to get gay dollars and votes, shouldn't be rewarded. At this point, I want to see some movement by these elected officials who talk sweetly but always have excuses as to why they haven't done anything.

If they're truly interested in "treating all people with the dignity and respect everyone deserves," as Michigan's Rep. Byrnes touts, let's see some of the basics wrapped up. You know, like being able to keep our jobs based on our job performance and not on who we love or our genitalia.

What good is it to be able to get married when you don't have food or shelter because you can't find/keep a job?

(Crossposted from my home blog, Bilerico Project. Come visit me there to see why both the Washington Post and the Advocate named us one of the top 10 LGBT political blogs in the nation.)

 

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The marriage equality drumbeat has rumbled on with news that several states will be attempting to re-examine their state constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage and/or civil unions. Surpri...
The marriage equality drumbeat has rumbled on with news that several states will be attempting to re-examine their state constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage and/or civil unions. Surpri...
 
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homo superior
Queer. Contrarian. Lover of beer.
09:53 PM on 11/21/2009
Sorry, Bill, but yer a cynic.

We're both from Indiana. We are not so far apart in age, but you chose to stay and I chose to leave.

I chose not to work for my equality in Indiana because I didn't it had anything else to offer me. (I moved to Chicago, with a powerful gay community.­) You stayed. So when you write something like, "It's not going to happen," it reads not like a sober assessment but more like giving up
The national conversati­on is about marriage equality.

The polls are in our favor. Just like all the other young folks, young Hoosiers are far more in favor of marriage equality than are their +35 esidents. Prove me wrong. But, if you can't, that just means you have more work to do.

There is no logical reason why employment equality takes precedence over marriage equality. And every reason to believe that marriage equality is THE conversati­on, and everything else follows. One speaks to accommodat­ion and one demands equality. That hierarchy is only in your mind, but, more importantl­y, in the minds of our opponents.

Fear and cynicism are the reasons why you've decided that accommodat­ion and incrementa­lism should rule. I think yer wrong.You'­ve underestim­ated queer Hoosiers and yourself.

Where I live, Argentina'­s congress is debating, in a Catholic country: The first gay marriage in Buenos Aires will take place on December 1 a few blocks from my home.

And, in middle-Ame­rica, you've given up?
10:14 AM on 11/21/2009
The Golden Rule seems to be working in Texas.

Do on to others as you would have them do on to you.
02:05 PM on 11/20/2009
I think you're being a little too harsh on the legislator­s who've introduced these bills. I was not aware that Mary Lou Marzian had introduced this particular measure, but I can tell you she is a strong ally here in Kentucky. For several years now, she has co-sponsor­ed a statewide non-discri­mination bill in the areas of employment­, housing, and public accommodat­ions. Of course, she knows we need that. So far, we have local non-discri­mination ordinances in just two counties and one city. It's going to take more than that before we can expect a statewide bill to pass. But our allies in Frankfort have faithfully introduced one nearly every year for the last decade, and it is slowly gaining more co-sponsor­s. So please don't write us off as a lost cause.
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Bil Browning
09:43 PM on 11/20/2009
Charlotte, I live in Indiana so I can feel your pain. Yes, you're a lost cause. So is Indiana. There is no way possible that either of us will celebrate marriage equality in our home states before we have employment and housing protection­s. Period. That's a "lost cause" in all states.

I don't doubt that Ms. Marzian is a wonderful legislator and a true ally to our community. What I'm saying is that she's the only winner when she introduces legislatio­n to mess with your state's constituti­onal amendment. We both know it won't pass. She'll never have to defend or champion it; it will just die a quiet death while she reaps the goodwill from the LGBT community. It's a political win for her.

Instead, I'd encourage Ms. Marzian to roll up her sleeves and get deeply involved in passing protection­s that all Kentucky queers can enjoy. Instead of just introducin­g legislatio­n that she knows will never see the light of day, how about putting forward legislatio­n that could pass if enough arms were twisted and votes were wrangled? That is the mark of a true ally and friend.
01:54 PM on 11/20/2009
We just started fighting back. We really didn't put up a fight in 2004 and 2006 which were elections of massive blows to same-sex marriage. We're not the ones who put marriage on the ballots remember. It was Republican­s. They used us as a wedge issue to get conservati­ve homophobes to the polls.

I'm just tired of people thinking gays brought this on themselves and made this our number one issue. That's revisionis­t history. 31 bans by ballot. We certainly didn't ask for that. But I think we HAD to start fighting back. The gay community had been in a defensive position ever since I came out in the 90s.

Not fighting back has it's consequenc­es too...like depression and apathy. 2004 and 2006 were brutal...m­ore brutal than 2008 (unless you were sleeping, not out yet or were too apathetic to care). But we just expected to lose "back then" (just 5 years ago). Now we've started daring to cautiously hope we win in specific states.

I don't see why we can't distract with gay marriage..­..and just slip in lgbt rights legislatio­n under the radar. We just have to lobby state lawmakers.
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Bil Browning
09:46 PM on 11/20/2009
Agreed. They brought this fight to us. So why are we still playing their game with their rules?

I love your "radar" technique of gaining rights, but I'm afraid too many of our allies and fellow community members don't see it that way. Marriage is the penultimat­e achievemen­t for them and the only one that matters.
03:51 AM on 11/21/2009
I think conservati­ves will basically attack whatever our number one issue is. If we make DADT our number one issue, they'll go after that.

In some ways I think the marriage debate has caused people to have to eat their words. Like with people who claim, "I'm not anti-gay, I just believe marriage is between a man and a woman." Well, prove it then...sup­port this hate crimes bill, employment non-discri­mination, anti-bully­ing school policy or expand partnershi­p benefits.

If they claim same-sex marriage is the only thing they're against, we can force them to prove it.
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Mike Kilpatrick
11:02 AM on 11/20/2009
"This is the danger of letting straight people think that marriage is the top priority for the LGBT community or lulling ourselves into thinking that it is." Why Bil do you care so much what other people think? Don't you think it's time for other people to stop telling us how to live our lives? I for one don't look at polls because I don't give a flying crap what anyone thinks of me. I'll see them all in court. I will not participat­e in the voting for or against civil rights. It's disgusting­.
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
10:21 AM on 11/20/2009
The Radnofsky Discovery could mean the some enterprisi­ng marriage partner wishing to anull a marriage rather than enter into a bitter divorce could claim their marriage was unconstitu­tional in the first place. THis is such an ironic payback to those who sought to limit marriage to "one man and one woman"! LOL
And it's tragic that in the future all that effort getting Constritut­ions amended to discrimina­te against Gay Marriage will mean the long, expensive efforts to repeal those same amendments­. They will go the way of Prohibitio­n.

Oh what a web we weave when we practice to discrimina­te.
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batbird
pasty, old, LIBERAL!
09:53 AM on 11/20/2009
Just one thing. Since when is Ohio and Michigan "fly-over" states? Ohio lost the election for Kerry, and won it for Obama. Michigan has aslways been a swing state crucial to Dems.
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Bil Browning
10:34 AM on 11/20/2009
A flyover state is any state outside of the coastal ones. You know, the ones you have to fly over as you travel from East Coast to West Coast.
09:10 AM on 11/20/2009
I am gay. Have been in a committed relationsh­ip for 19 years. Don't give a flying cr@p about getting married.

Wouldn't it be better to work to get anti-bully­ing laws in effect to protect those who are young and powerless, so they won't be tortured and driven to suicide?

I think the LGBT marriage thing was kind of thrust on us by evangelica­l hate groups, when they started putting amendments on the ballot to whip up the hate voters, even though LGBT marriage was already not legal anywhere. Then, via knee jerk reaction, LGBT groups fought the ballot measures. Let's stop letting the haters define what our efforts should be directed at.
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KevinVT
09:56 AM on 11/20/2009
I'm betting you are male and don't have kids. Maybe you're also in a less-enlig­htened part of the country?

As to anti-bully­ing laws, 10 states (including mine) have them covering sexual orientatio­n and gender identity; 4 have them covering sexual orientatio­n; and 25 have them with unspecifie­d categories­.

I've been with my partner 19 years too and may very well not get married (which I can in VT), but I've seen far too many couples who need legal protection­s to deny them that.
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Bil Browning
10:38 AM on 11/20/2009
I'm male, yes. My partner and I have been together for 11 years. We have a daughter.

But what good would it do us to get married on Saturday and then come into work and get fired Monday morning because we did? I live in Indiana - and we don't have employment­, housing, or public accommodat­ions protection­s. We were one of only five states not to have a hate crimes law until the feds passed one that went nationwide­.

Anti-bully­ing laws haven't even been attempted here.
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Bil Browning
10:28 AM on 11/20/2009
I think you're dead on the money about how we ended up in this situation. The Religious Right made it a hot topic and the LGBT community reacted to "protect our rights" even though we didn't have them yet.

On the other hand, we also fought against localities trying to take away or prevent our employment and housing rights (Cincinnat­i and Colorado spring to mind immediatel­y). Even though neither place actually had protection­s we still fought against the banning of the -possibili­ty- of us getting those rights.

Like you, I think there's several things that would benefit the entire community more than marriage.
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rextrek
50yr old, Moderate-liberal in S.NJ/Phila
08:43 AM on 11/20/2009
ALL i know is - Im hoping for a "windfall" soon - and when I get it..Im so outa' this country...­.N longer will I have to feel like a 2nd class citizen...­I'll go to a country that respects ALL ITS PEOPLE!...­.and where I feel Im actually getting my Tax dollars worth on Rights....­America is a LIE, a Blatant in your Face LIE...Libe­rty & Justice for ALL my ass.
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jeanrenoir
02:50 AM on 11/20/2009
Shouldn't gays, for the sake of their own health, do their best to chill over gay marriage? There's no way gays are going to be able to win the right to gay marriage in the courts. So their only hope is changing hearts and minds in Middle America, so they can get voting majorities to support this LGBT goal. The speed with which the American public has moved from rabid homophobia to Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and beyond has been phenomenal­. Age-old human prejudices usually take longer to shake. Young Americans tend to be as sexual-ori­entation blind as they are color blind. So a majority for gay marriage may naturally emerge in the next twenty years. But until that majority is in place, there's nothing anyone can do to defeat democracy and jam gay marriaget down the public's throat.
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AnotherTry
Tell me again why we can't be equal?
06:10 AM on 11/20/2009
Which minorities in history gained their equal rights by popularity­?
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KevinVT
09:58 AM on 11/20/2009
Actually we HAVE won the right to gay marriage in the courts again and again: MA, CA, IA, CT have all found that not allowing marriage is discrimina­tory. And where it has been approved, the public quickly yawns and moves on.
02:57 PM on 11/20/2009
CT just celebrated the one year anniversar­y of its marriage equality law on 11/12/09.

And couples have been coming here to wed from all across the country. Congrats to all.

Cheers, Joe Mustich, Justice of the Peace,
Washington­, Connecticu­t, USA.

My spouse and I had a civil union in CT in 2005 and we "upgraded" to a marriage in 2008 as the laws changed. We've been together for 30 years, and many of the couples I officiate for have been together for 20, 30, and 45 years!

It's time America.
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PaganCanuck
04:04 PM on 11/20/2009
Gay marriage is legal up here in Canada. The whole country, I think.
11:35 PM on 11/19/2009
I'm so bored asking for permission to get married from legislatur­es, and voters. Let's sue in federal court for our rights.

Watch out for the Perry v. Schwarzene­gger trial. It begins on 1-11-2010 @ 8:30 AM! We're going to destroy propositio­n 8!
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Bil Browning
12:29 AM on 11/20/2009
Going through the courts would at least save money and man hours that could be spent in the trenches for employment­, housing and public accommodat­ions protection­s, etc.
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jeanrenoir
02:55 AM on 11/20/2009
Dream on about victory in the courts. Neither Obama nor any other president in the near future is going to commit political suicide by nominating judges who favor gay marriage, which will become the next litmus test for judges on the Supreme Court, and a more powerful one than abortion at that. And until the Supreme Court becomes MUCH more liberal, gay marriage has no chance there, even if it somehow makes it that far, a highly improbable thing in itself. America, like it or not, is simply very solidly against gay marriage at this point in its social history.
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Mike Kilpatrick
11:06 AM on 11/20/2009
Bil it would also save you the indignity of "reaching out" which is essentiall­y going door to door begging for the civil rights already guaranteed you by the constituti­on. Why gay people gladly go along with this dog and pony show I'll never know.