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Flip the Curve: Student Achievement vs. School Budgets

Posted: 03/ 1/11 01:06 PM ET

Yesterday I spoke to the nation's governors at their annual meeting in Washington, D.C. They are grappling with more than state budget deficits; they're also confronting deep education deficits. I encouraged them to flip the curve on how much we spend vs. how well students do in school.

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Over the last four decades, the per-student cost of running our K-12 schools has more than doubled, while our student achievement has remained flat, and other countries have raced ahead. The same pattern holds for higher education. Spending has climbed, but our percentage of college graduates has dropped compared to other countries.

To build a dynamic 21st-century economy and offer every American a high-quality education, we need to flip the curve. For more than 30 years, spending has risen while performance stayed flat. Now we need to raise performance without spending a lot more.

When you need more achievement, you have to change the way you spend the money. This year, the governors are launching "Complete to Compete," a program to help colleges get more value for the money they spend. It will develop metrics to help show which colleges graduate more students for less money, so we can see what works and what doesn't.

In K-12, we know more about what works. Of all the variables under a school's control, the single most decisive factor in student achievement is excellent teaching. It's astonishing what great teachers can do for their students.

Unfortunately, compared to the countries that outperform us in education, we do very little to measure, develop, and reward excellent teaching. We have been expecting teachers to be effective without giving them feedback.

To flip the curve, we have to identify great teachers, find out what makes them so effective, and transfer those skills to others -- so more students can benefit from top teachers and high achievement.

Compared to other countries, America has spent more and achieved less. We need to build exceptional teacher personnel systems that identify great teaching, reward it, and help every teacher get better.

It's the one thing we've been missing, and it can turn our schools around.

 

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Yesterday I spoke to the nation's governors at their annual meeting in Washington, D.C. They are grappling with more than state budget deficits; they're also confronting deep education deficits. I enc...
Yesterday I spoke to the nation's governors at their annual meeting in Washington, D.C. They are grappling with more than state budget deficits; they're also confronting deep education deficits. I enc...
 
 
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07:46 PM on 03/06/2011
Bill, you understand systems. No system that has to rely on "putting the right people in place" can ever be considered remotely sustainable.

We seem to have no basic National Standard for curriculums that every Institution must meet as a minimum requirement. Once the National Standard is met, then the States can add their own additional class requirements for local Schools. Testing is meaningless if the material is being presented poorly to begin with.

You might also consider that we are still using the "One Room School-house" model to educate all ages of students. Standing at the head of the class and lecturing only goes so far, especially in this interactive age. Perhaps we might try a new 21st Century way of doing things?

We can increase class sizes with Combined Cooperative Interactive Learning, CCIL, or some variation of this system I developed whilst tutoring. If you put students in groups of 3 to 6, the groups can work together on assignments during the session. The Teacher can then manage the groups, as the students themselves help each other learn too. Those who excel can then be placed with others who are having difficulty keeping up. This system can promote a greater Social Interactivity between students. And of course, if we can give the students enough of a challenge, and work, to keep them occupied, it might help to keep them out of trouble too, especially at our Universities.
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11:28 PM on 03/07/2011
Putting student into groups as you did works great. And it really helps the best students more than the worst. I always understood material much better if I had to teach it to someone else.
07:30 PM on 03/06/2011
Bill, while I respect much of the work that you do, I'm afraid that you don't grasp the underlying causes of the increases in cost. You should look into history prior to NCLB and the changes under NCLB. NCLB was the right thing to do on paper, but the people who put it together had no grasp of the underlying problems or costs associated with trying to change them.

I presume that you are familiar with the 80/20 rule; that 80% of your issues and costs are caused by 20% of your customers. Schools can't take advantage of the flip side to this rule like Microsoft can; nor can they control their raw materials like MS. Prior to NCLB, the highest need students, who were also the highest cost students, fell through the cracks; it let schools focus on the top 80%. Of course I don't think this is the way things shouldbe done; but while schools receive maybe $10K/year to educate a student, districts often have multiple students who cost $100K/year or more. And, let's be clear that the Charter Schools you fund have nowhere near the numbers of high cost students that comparable public schools do. Just check the mandated school reporting by SPED, ELL, and high poverty rates in the same districts your charter schools are in; they rarely have half the numbers.

Again, I appreciate your spirit and desire to help, but you're a bit misguided as to the issues.
07:08 PM on 03/06/2011
Here are some good ideas that, I must admit, even Gates admits too. High schools that are no larger than five hundred students. Every teacher in the building including the principal is required to know every student by name and have some personal knowledge of that students personal background. Principal required to teach at least one class a month in every subject. Class size not to exceed fifteen. Every student placed in curricula appropriate to her/his academic level and interests. Stress on ability to read and understand the English language beyond twitter sound bites, (i.e. complete sentences and even paragraphs)
Elementary schools pre-K to at least 6th grade. Class size, 8 to 12 students, depending on subject matter. twenty first century curricula, (i.e. global) Cisco has a commercial out where a class of thirty elementary children visit China by Satellite television hook up. Good commercial but it encourages depersonalizing humans and pushes the "Media is the Message". I would prefer that the class actually visit the farm. Finally we should stop arguing about how wrong Piaget was and admit that he has done his home work. Over reliance on technologies is very dangerous. Computers don't conform to people, they are binary and will remain so for the foreseeable future.
03:04 PM on 03/06/2011
It's interesting that the article states that we need to figure out what makes a good teacher and how we can transfer those qualities. As an pedagogy major in college, I have been learning what it means to be a good teacher through Freire, Dewey, Greene, and other writers of the 20th century. I believe that we already have a great deal of information regarding what makes a good teacher, however the people in charge of making decisions regarding education, politicians, don't bother becoming learned in education theories. We need to value teachers, support the systems that create and nurture future teachers. We need to make it an honorable profession that is competitive and rewarded. We don't choose just anyone to be athletes, we don't appoint random people as politicians, doctors don't become accomplished easily. These positions are glorified, coveted, and are highly competitive. Education should be on the highest pedestal because it is the fundamental part of society.
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01:22 PM on 03/06/2011
Encouraged motivated and supported students will usually do well with excellent, good, so-so, bad or even no teachers at all. Unfortunately despite lip service , education generally isn't valued much at all in the USA - and becoming educated is definitely uncool in many student sub-cultures and too "elite" . Even in the Eisenhower era Adlai Stevenson was denounced as an "egghead" - and today the country still re-fights creationist battles of the Scopes monkey trial, and Texas ideological hacks promote Calvin as enlightened. Meanwhile teachers not Wall Street greedheads take it on the chin for the economic failure - and have become the all purpose goat in a society where deliberate lying as in FAUX news becomes supreme court sanctioned protected speech, PBS gets defunded and the antics of Charlie Sheen are considered highest priority by the mainstream media. Students are perceived - to use a Gatesian metaphor - as blanc discs for writing code on, rather than as essential living participants in the learning process. What will work is not more attention to meaningless tests, demands for "accountibility" threats, contempt for teachers, or privitizing everything (which as we know worked out so well with health care) - but a major paradign shift. Finland and Canada are rated first in literacy not because of genetic superiority but because at a cultural and socio-economic level they value education far more than you do and encourage rather than discourage it from happening.
06:40 PM on 03/06/2011
YUP
07:09 PM on 03/06/2011
I agree. One of the things we keep ignoring is the fact that what goes on outside of school is more influential in the development of a child than what goes on inside school. Kids from facilitative environments do as well with unschooling as they do with AP honors classes. Bill Gates himself is not a college graduate, nor is Steve Jobs. As Gatto said, " We have labored mightily to produce a science of pedagogy and have produced a flea" while the answer to high achievement sits right under our noses and definitely does not require high stakes testing.
12:54 PM on 03/06/2011
Look at the steep climb in cost starting in the mid 80s. That was not a time of huge increases in teacher salaries. Neither did we spend that money on smaller class sizes. But this was when we introduced lots of very expensive new digital technology to the classroom. And the spending on fancy computers has never let up on campus. Perhaps this prophilactic to human interaction has something to do with the lack of educational achievement. I wonder what would happen if we actually spent more moeny on paying well qualified educators to spend more time per pupil guiding learning.
07:14 PM on 03/06/2011
From what I've read (mostly J.T. Gatto's history of American Education), it is administrative costs that have been where the expenses have been skyrocketing. So you have this huge expensive bureaucracy instead of a focus on the essentials in the classroom itself.
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08:11 PM on 03/06/2011
If the money had been spent on teachers, then:
1) The profession would attract more applicants.
2) In America's highly materialist culture, teachers would have higher status (face it, Americans worship the well heeled).
3) With elevated respect for teachers, discipline issues disappear or at least decrease.
4) Increased respect for teachers ("educated elite") will increase the desirability of employment that requires difficult education (science, engineering, etc) => Motivated students!

Since most of the increases in education spending have been on useless administrative personnel, a solution to the problem could be to require that ALL school employees other than the custodian and secretary (and only have one each of those per school, like they do in Japan) and cooking staff achieve teacher certification and teach classes in addition to sitting in their offices and surfing the web. Let's face it, even guidance councilors could teach something like Social Studies or Civics, and if they can't then they don't belong in a school.

I'm not suggesting that administrators take on a full teaching workload, but if they could teach five or ten classes per week it would dramatically reduce class sizes for the real teachers. Further, requiring that ALL professional employees of the school district be certified teachers who actually teach ensures that the entire organization is kept focused upon the essence of their mission.
11:58 AM on 03/06/2011
Gates loves to sound knowledgeable about stuff and he has an American right to spout non nonsense and spend his foundation monies any way he wishes, but when you tell a lie make sure that people don't know the difference. When he mentions cost per student note that he doesn't mention people like Michelle Rhee who got 3 million for firing 659 public school teachers or that administrative costs and transportation take up substantial parts of the budgets in some school districts.How about school health care that other countries may not have? Do other countries have physical ed as part of their curricula? Do other countries test the general population. Do other countries try to educate the general population in the same class room?
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11:53 AM on 03/06/2011
Spending has increased because of inflation , multimillion $ sports facilities for high school , and corrupt contracts etc. None of which have gone to salaries to increase higher quality teachers. Just a fact Bill. If for the past thirty years we had not given tax breaks to the wealthy and made them pay their fair share to support public schools nationally rather than depending on local property taxed thing may have been different.
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04:28 PM on 03/06/2011
Your inflation comment is totally false. In inflation adjusted dollars we spent $9000 per public student in 2008 and $4000 in 1970. The reasons for our dismal education quality may be numerous and the subject is complicated, but it is really hard to imagine that lack of $ is the real driver of our lousy performance.
11:10 AM on 03/06/2011
His argument is based on the assumption that standardized tests measure something. I've proctored many of these exams. Some students left the entire bubble sheet blank, Some students bubble in A, B, C, D, E, repeatedly. I think my favorite was bubbling in the AC/DC logo. Sadly, I have to admit one of these was my own daughter. When it mattered she could get 2200 SAT scores. On tests that didn't matter to her grade, etc. she bubbled in random answers. She got a 4 in AP Calculus but only "basic" on the state algebra exam her senior year. Gates should get this. He realized even Harvard was a waste of his time. (It is interesting that people think that throwing money at college professors at private universities makes their experience more worthwhile. Then again they aren't there to learn, but rather to invest in meeting the people with which they will make their fortunes.)
12:00 PM on 03/06/2011
Ditto
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12:04 PM on 03/06/2011
My favorite - coloring the bubbles to spell out FU. Regarding standardized test, I couldn't agree more!
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10:07 AM on 03/06/2011
Yes, Bill's numbers are adjusted for inflation (http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=66). His primary point is crystal clear. We are spending more and getting no improvement.

As for the poverty argument, I'm not ready to believe it yet, but it is another area where we spend more and get no improvement. So there is one point of correlation; neither one improves as we spend more money.

It's time to stop pretending that there is some magic amount of money we can spend that will magically reverse the trend of 40 years and start looking for different solutions.
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07:16 AM on 03/06/2011
This isn’t about teachers and school budgets. No amount of additional money, laws or government involvement will fix this situation. The solution lies in our homes and not in the budget. Too many kids in schools without any effective parental influence. The reasons for this void of competent parenting varies, but it can’t be fixed in school and pretending we can throw money at this problem is insane. Yet we do it because we lack the guts to face that we have an unmanageable percentage of our population having children that will never be properly socialized or trained to succeed at any stage of life. It’s the 800lbs gorilla in the corner of the room and everyone seems to want to ignore it? Well no matter, we’re broke and out of money now anyway.
12:02 PM on 03/06/2011
P.J. O'Rourke said it well. The fault is your damned kids.
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06:56 AM on 03/06/2011
Where is the mention of cutting salaries and pension plans. Oh right, different target audience here on hufpost.

Don't want to upset the bleeding liberals who just love what Gates did in Africa.

As long as every classroom is equipped with at least 2 PCs with Windows just in case one of them continuously crashes for no apparent reason.
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11:02 AM on 03/06/2011
How are you going to attract the best and the brightest to enter the teaching profession when the discussion has been that we are lazy, ineffective, and overpaid?
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11:46 AM on 03/06/2011
You have the brightest most motivated in the teaching field right now. Those who are teaching are not doing it for the cash.

If you read Gates' full rant on the topic (go to any right wing trash site for the full rant) you would think all teachers are incompetent oafs whose base salary should be pittance with an added bonus for "performance".
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07:55 AM on 03/15/2011
Why attract the best and the brightest when your students are homeless?
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04:29 AM on 03/06/2011
You'll outsource anyway. So what are we fighting for? You make sure my Windows runs good and ever child gets vaccinated. We take care of the rest, okay? Okay.

You are making the same ridiculous proposals that Oprah, Obama and Michelle Rhee made. Sounds brutal and the result is insignificant. The system is perfect. The problem is AT HOME. Students don't get pushed, get no motivation to move on. I know parents who push their high school children to get children.

On top of that, people tend to blame the high schools which is completely wrong! Students leave elementary performing high, even internationally. Then they get out of middle school and high school teachers stand in front of a crowd that is behind on everything. So what High school teachers end up doing is teaching students Middle school materials so that they can barely understand what's going on in High school.

So where is the problems? At home and in Middle school! NOT high schools, NOT the teachers, NOT the concept behind public schools or whatever ridiculous stuff people make up.
03:11 AM on 03/06/2011
Um, Bill... did you have these figures adjusted for inflation? Because if you did you would have found that when you do that, and when you take out the spending on special education, federal spending on education has gone up by less than 1% since the early 1960's. Most of that money referred to in the graphic, as in every school I know of, goes to wages. I'm sure you wouldn't want your child taught by someone who makes the same wage as the average teacher did in 1977. Would you? It would be really helpful -- and far more intelligent -- if, in conversations about school reform, you put forth actual ideas for such reform. So far we have from you "larger classes and better teachers", which actually focuses on the idea of cost effectiveness. That isn't reform, but what we should always try for. What specific practices do you believe should be changed to improve education? Why? To what end? Once you are willing to put those ideas in the arena, open for dissection, only then will we begin to have an authentic conversation that might help do something positive. Until then you're just another rich guy who has never taught children, but expects people to pay attention to your opinions on the matter because you have money. So... specifics?
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09:08 PM on 03/06/2011
This is why people like Gates should be heavily taxed. Because they end up wasting their fortune on philanthropy that is ill-informed and self serving .When you are the richest man in the US you should at least be able to hire someone to inform you about the real costs in education.

Perhaps if we accorded more status to teachers  than we do to people who have been lucky enough to earn a fortune, we would attract and keep more high quality teachers.
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02:52 AM on 03/06/2011
Bill ... You need to flip some of your thinking. While you're going around the world curing diseases, you're doing like to cure the environment to support all the people you are 'saving'. While you want to find out who are the excellent teachers, you are doing nothing to address the poverty. There are so many ways to 'flip' thinking.