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The U.S. Economy and Public Education

Posted: 09/27/11 02:19 PM ET

At NBC's Education Nation Summit yesterday, Melinda sat down with our good friend Warren Buffett and his daughter, Susie Buffett, to talk about education.

Melinda and I believe deeply that education should be everyone's priority, and it should be at the top of our nation's domestic policy agenda. There's a lot of uncertainty today about our nation's economy, but there is no uncertainty that a high-quality education is key to economic prosperity for all of our people -- and for us as a nation.

The numbers don't lie. Unemployment rates among Americans who never went to college are about double that of those who have a postsecondary education. And the need for highly-skilled workers is growing. By 2018, an estimated 63 percent of all new U.S. jobs will require workers with an education beyond high school.

For our young people to get those jobs, they first need to graduate from high school ready to start a postsecondary education. Right now, only one-third of all high school graduates are prepared to succeed in college-level work. To raise that number, every student must have a great teacher in every subject, every year.

And once today's students start their postsecondary studies, they deserve a system that supports them all the way to the end -- so they can finish what they started in a timely way -- and at an affordable price.

Melinda and I are working hard with our partners on these issues. We welcome the help of others. We want this country to be a more equitable, more prosperous place for everyone. And we feel passionately that the road to a better future passes through American schools.


Bill Gates is the co-chair of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. He regularly posts his thoughts about the Foundation's work and other projects on his personal web site, The Gates Notes.

 

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At NBC's Education Nation Summit yesterday, Melinda sat down with our good friend Warren Buffett and his daughter, Susie Buffett, to talk about education. Melinda and I believe deeply that education ...
At NBC's Education Nation Summit yesterday, Melinda sat down with our good friend Warren Buffett and his daughter, Susie Buffett, to talk about education. Melinda and I believe deeply that education ...
 
 
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steviez
Steve Zimmerman is an unrepentant liberal.
11:03 PM on 10/02/2011
That Bill Gates has turned his considerable intelligence and wealth towards solving some of the world's most vexing problems is beyond praiseworthy. My concern is that one of the effects of what is called "education reform" has become a national obsession with bottom line academic achievement as measured by standardized tests.

If Mr. Gates had been subjected to the "data-driven" educational environment prevalent in today's schools when he was growing up, his academic career would probably have been shorter than it was.

My point is is that, as a great American entrepreneur, and now philanthropist, Mr. Gates can help focus his Foundation behind what has truly made America innovative and great. And that means looking at education in ways that are beyond the number counters.

Steve Zimmerman
www.ownf.org
10:07 PM on 10/02/2011
Make sure all peoples don't get or can't afford a secondary education is one of the ways to keep the middle class and poor from climbing out of proverty. Another weapon used in the "Class Warfare" that is being conducted by the wealthy and corporations.
08:07 PM on 10/02/2011
This kind of "let them eat cake" thinking always drives me up the wall. Do you remember how, maybe ten or fifteen years ago, factories would be closing down, and some politician or other would tell the workers that they should go back to school to get jobs in the IT industry? It just made you want to smack him. Being a computer programmer is a hard job. A very hard job, that takes a lot of intelligen­ce. More than most people have. And I kind of think that, if the people at these factories were capable of becoming computer programmer­s in the first place, they wouldn't be standing there screwing two parts together, over and over every day.

I wonder just how many of America's problems can be directly attributed to the fact that we REFUSE to admit that some people just aren't as smart as others?

We never will, either. You know why? Because liberals don't want to admit that not everybody is born with equal skills and equal potential. Conservatives never will either, because admitting differences in intelligence will mean that all those rich guys DIDN'T just get rich due to hard work, and that everybody else who's willing to work hard can do the same thing. They'll never admit that a lot of it is just the blind luck of which genes you were born with.
06:19 PM on 10/02/2011
The disparity in education isn't a riddle. Wealthy people live in wealthy communities, White Plains, or send their children to private schools like Sidwell Friends, Montessori, Nueva Day School etc... Poor people,...... well you get it. Solution: bus all the rich kids to poor districts and the poor and average income to rich districts, problem solved. No private schools, illegal. How many families can afford the tuition at Harvard, Yale, etc...
04:27 PM on 10/02/2011
LEAVING THE VICIOUS CIRCLE

Companies that have big cash, to a large extend due to government largesse and tax advantages, should invest and train workers.

Obama is screamed at by the oligarchic press not to overspend and expected to improve the job situation.

Who is kidding whom?
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jimtodd
Unrepentant child of '60s
03:02 PM on 10/02/2011
The lack of support for education at all levels, tells us what the politicians think our future will be.
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Ram Samudrala
Give more to the world than what I take from it
01:58 PM on 10/02/2011
IMO American public education is the best in the world. I say this having been educated in a different system prior to high school (from undergrad on I was educated here in the US). Inow am a professor at a major research university doing bleeding edge scientific research. I also have children in public schools here. It is all about freedom and creativity. Rote learning a LOT of stuff by 18 is pointless. People should be encouraged to follow their passions from an early state and develop many areas of expertise, from which they can choose one as their "main" source of income and the others can be a hobby.

I mentor ~30 people in my group, consisting of postdocs, grad students, undergrads, and a few high school students (sophomores to seniors). Several are below 18 in my group (including one person who started UW undergrad at age 14). These under 18 people, studying in WA public schools, are INCREDIBLY SMART. They can hold their own against my most senior postdocs.

Admittedly that's a biased sample since people who come to me are really somewhat of an overachiever. But my children so far have shunned any appreciation for science but I can see that the education they're getting (in Mukilteo WA) is fantastic. I am envious of those who go through public school here. America as a country is symbolic of its public schools. It is more than just learning stuff from textbooks. It's about nurturing creativity.
09:52 PM on 10/02/2011
I think one area in which we fail is in motivation and understanding the purpose of education. There are people around the world literally dying for a chance at an education, families who give all they have, kids who overcome tremendous obstacles...yet so many of our students treat school like a punishment. The fact that there are good teachers, good facilities (in SOME schools, by no means all) doesn't mean they will be taken advantage of, especially if the parents don't care. Agree that we are more creative in our approach and that is a good thing, but overall, education is horribly undervalued in America, especially the kind which educates the whole person to be a better citizen, not just do better in business.
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10:55 PM on 10/02/2011
Based on your writing in this post, I can only assume English is not your native language.
I can overlook that. I cannot overlook the blanket statement "American public education is the best in the world". Unless you have traveled the whole world, such a statement cannot be accurate. Still, I applaud your efforts and continued presence in academia. Hopefully you will help make a difference.

I myself got my Primary and Secondary education in a "3rd world" nation. However, my grades were low and by national standards I did not even graduate. Then I came to the US for college. It was the only country where schools would accept my low grades. Surprisingly, I was way ahead of my fellow classmates--with my failed 3rd world education! Long story short. In the US I was an A student graduating Summa Cum Laude. After Grad school I taught at 2 Universities before finally moving to another vocation.

From my experience in academia, as a student and as a professor, I have learned that with no national education standard, the result is inconsistency in education, and degrees awarded that should not be. Though there are some excellent institutions and students prepared for them, What Mr. Gates states is true. The primary and secondary education is generally sub-par, and at the university level the quality is department by department. Couple this with the anti-science, anti-intellectualism hailed in the current political discourse, and it will only get worse.
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Ram Samudrala
Give more to the world than what I take from it
09:24 PM on 10/03/2011
English is my first language but I do apologise for that post. Actually I had written a really long post and I had to edit in a hurry and rather poorly at that.

Or you may be smarter than you think you are. As I write, if you were to compare the very best, you'll find a different story I think. But America always used immigrants to move forward. I think there is far less homogeneity in certain places in the world which makes some kinds of education easier than others. Canada and Australia are also immigration based economies and do a good job, so I can see looking up north as being far more instructive.
awckid3
No good deed goes unpunished.
09:43 AM on 10/02/2011
Public education is a failure pure and simple.
10:20 AM on 10/02/2011
Apparently!!!!!!
05:31 PM on 10/02/2011
For you.
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05:31 AM on 10/02/2011
algebra is the big stumbling block in our schools and to our high tech future as kids don't get it and teachers for the most part don't know how to teach it....need concerted effort to teach our kids algebra.....for the most part kids who don't understand algebra have no quantitative future and are turned off to things quantitatively which is essential for high tech development and jobs.....this is the reason americans rank 27th in the world in math and science....this needs to change or we can't remain a top tier country....
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01:00 PM on 10/04/2011
Agreed. I have noticed that appreciation for math has declined over the last 15 years as high stakes testing has ramped up. Math in this country is so driven by standradized testing that students are not getting what is developmentally appropriate - they are getting what the teacher needs to rush through in order to cover all the test material. In the process, many students get left behind.
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MyTake
Release the Hydrogen Economy now!
01:34 AM on 10/02/2011
Maybe I missed something here.

You have the rise of The Corporate State in America in the past 4 decades where vast numbers of jobs and factories have been outsourced to Mexico, Asia, Communist China and now India.

And this man is talking about the need for higher education when the Universities and Colleges in the U.S. have long been privatized and charge ever increasing tuition fees.

Yet, there are Nation States around the Globe that offer FREE education at those two levels.

In the U.S., the WEALTHY elites do not pay Federal Taxes. If they did, the Governments could run FREE education as a result.

A case in point.

There is a Senate record in the Sixties where Nelson Rockefeller had to submit a Federal Tax Return. One of the richest people in the U.S. was found to only pay $650.oo in Federal Income Tax in one year.

The Foundation Laws permitted this wealthy man to donate 1/2 of his annual income into a Foundation Fund which zeroed out the Tax Owing on the remaining 1/2 annual income.

Would you care to post your Federal Tax return, Mr. Gates!

And I still have not gotten over how the Gates Foundation joined up with a Rockefeller Foundation to build that Seed Bank in Iceland. I wonder what that was all about!
07:10 AM on 10/02/2011
YUP and in pontificating about education no one ever mentions cost per student or intelligence and interest level specific. The big debate now is mass standardized testing where Stephen Williams Hawkings would still be writing his name when the monitor called time. We are on our way to the China model where three thousand girls earn three hundred a month living in dorms making trinkets for Apple.
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11:03 PM on 10/02/2011
Beyond the moral failings and greed of the rich and not so rich, including Gates, is what he says incorrect? Are you satisfied with the education offered in the US? As far as I'm concerned, I'm happy if Gates brings attention to our poor national education, and the anti-science, anti-intellectualism sweeping the county.
09:56 PM on 10/02/2011
I'm pretty sure Gates has done more to help more people get educated, here and around the world, than most people who have ever lived. They join up with a lot of organizations, governments, educational institutions, and companies to accomplish their goals, which include cutting-edge research and health initiatives, among other things.
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Lane Campbell
Say what?
01:11 AM on 10/02/2011
Bill's assertion about the value of a post-secondary education is about half-right. There's two issues.
First, to really profit from a college education, you have to have the drive, the vision, and the self-discipline to study stuff that will actually get you jobs. Otherwise you'll wind up as part of the best-educated bar and wait staff in the country (Something that's endemic to the Gates Foundation's hometown of Seattle).
Second, the reason high-school graduates have trouble finding work is that they're poorly educated for the kind of blue-collar work that NEEDS doing, and can't just migrate to some other country. I'm talking about the need for skilled plumbers, electricians, power and communications lines-keepers, carpenters, trades-people in general, who serve our everyday needs and make a darn good living doing so.
There once was a time when "shop" was a time-honored part of a teenager's education. I can fondly remember taking Electrical Shop, starting out learning to wire simple battery-powered circuits, then "graduating" to real household-type wiring using 110V current. Or learning to safely use power tools in Wood Shop. Or learning to create detailed drawings in Drafting. (Used that skill to find work during a period of hard times). What are we teaching now? Touchy-feely "community learning" and "save the earth" science-cum-indoctrination? With that kind of "preparation", no wonder it's hard to find a job.
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Ram Samudrala
Give more to the world than what I take from it
02:05 PM on 10/02/2011
Actually several HS students are doing bleeding edge research in my group and publishing papers... the superachievers of today are something else. It's like with sports, you know how those old records get broken by younger, stronger, smarter, people?
08:00 PM on 10/02/2011
Yes, I've been amazed by that sort of thing too. But it's sort of like going to Rio de Janeiro and looking at all the fabulous houses all the rich people live in.

Superintelligent kids have an easier time than ever now. Kids that aren't so bright have nothing to look forward to. And there's a lot more of them, and there's nothing they can do about it.
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Lane Campbell
Say what?
12:32 AM on 10/05/2011
I always applaud the achievements of the leading-edge students. But I was talking about the mass in the middle, the people that we're neglecting to provide with the skills and the mindset to become solid, wage-earning citizens. It takes both to sustain a world.
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laura r
04:26 PM on 10/02/2011
Did you know that Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard university to start his own business? He later got an honorary degree due to his success in business.

Steve Jobs of Apple Computer dropped out of college to start his business out of a garage. He later got an honorary degree.

Matt Damon dropped out of Harvard, he is now a successful - Movie star.

Just the facts.
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11:12 PM on 10/02/2011
3, you got 3.

Perhaps your next operation you should request that your surgeon be a med school dropout. Also the engineers building the next bridge/plane/building/electronic device you use. "Calculus, who needs calculus, my gut tells me it's safe. Like Matt Damon, I'm a successful dropout."
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Holly Smoke
Humor is the best defense for absurdity.
12:17 AM on 10/02/2011
These are the compassionate capitalists that should be an example to the so call compassionate Rebublicans
09:57 PM on 10/02/2011
Yes.
02:46 PM on 09/29/2011
The first step in education reform has to be to increase literacy levels. If people can read well they can largely educate themselves.

Our schools are often boring and irrelevant. Teachers are far too concerned about controlling the learners, deciding what they should read and study, teaching them "critical thinking" , and pushing social agendas, rather than encouraging students to find ways to enjoy exploring and learning via reading.

Schools are inefficient and costly, and universities even more so. Efficiencies need to be introduced that take advantage of modern technology and harness the learning power of motivated learners who can read. Developing such learners should be the first task of our schools. Reducing the cost of our inefficient politicized teaching industry should be the second.
02:15 PM on 09/28/2011
Okay, Bill. Let's stop pretending everyone is college material and that you can't succeed without a college education (did you ever finish by the way?). Finally, the cost of college is absurd. Do something to lower that cost.
08:25 PM on 10/02/2011
It might also be nice if getting a degree in computer science actually paid what it used to. Lowering the number of H1B visas would certainly help out with that.
Shesme
My micro-bio will no longer be silent
11:47 PM on 10/02/2011
It would be a great good if skilled trades (and their unions) were held in higher esteem. I have had young students in the past who were ashamed to say that their parents were in trades. I told them that trades are important work that people need. They should be proud.

Basic skills in math, science, reading comprehension, and critical thinking are all needed and used in skilled trades. Computers cannot to this day wire your house or nurse your ill family members. We need skilled, proud, and accomplished people in these fields. The schools have failed to produce them. Vocational education is scarcely talked about.

College is not for everyone, nor should it be. But it should be available and attainable to those who want it, and whose temperaments need it.
08:54 AM on 09/28/2011
With all due respect to Mr. Gates, how does he propose to get around the problem that money is the main reason even good students don't (can't) go on to college. Where does a working, middle-class family come up with the $100,000+ to pay for a child's post-secondary education?
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09:50 AM on 09/28/2011
yes, exactly. College is too expensive for a slave wage laborer in 2011 America. If a student makes one mistake, like dropping a class after the drop date...this can cost hundreds of dollars that can set the student back for a year, because he has to take time off of school to save up money to pay the school for the dropped class before he can take another class..... this can throw a student off of the track of school......and maybe even discourage him form ever going back...
america is lost ... nobody really cares...