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Contagion and the Conflict Between Religious Beliefs and Immunization

Posted: 02/26/2012 8:53 am

Bill Moyers Essay: Are Immunization Exemptions Fair to All? from BillMoyers.com on Vimeo.

Steven Soderbergh's recent film Contagion is the most plausible experience of a global pandemic plague you're likely to see until the real thing strikes. Stark, beautiful in its own terrifying way, and all too believable, the story tracks the swift progress of a deadly airborne virus... from Hong Kong to Minneapolis... Tokyo to London... from a handful of peanuts to a credit card to the cough of strangers on a subway. Rarely does a film issue such an inescapable invitation to think, "It could happen. That could be us. What would I do?"

Perhaps because the movie had invaded my head, for several days I kept coming across stories in the news about contagious disease. And the conflict between religious beliefs and immunization. Nothing new here about the basics: All fifty states require some specific vaccinations for kids. Yet all of them grant exemptions for medical reasons - say, for a child with cancer. Almost all of them grant religious exemptions. And 20 states allow exemptions for personal, moral, or other beliefs.

Some parents still fear a link between vaccinations and autism, a possibility science has largely debunked. Some parents just want to be in charge of what's put into their children's bodies.

And some parents just don't trust science, period. So, you can see there are many loopholes. But now seven states are considering legislation to make it even easier for mothers and fathers to spare their children from vaccinations, especially on religious grounds.

In Oregon, according to a story by Jennifer Anderson in The Portland Tribune, the number of kindergartners with religious exemptions is up from 3.7 percent to 5.6 percent in just four years, and continuing to rise. This has public health officials clicking their calculators and keeping their eye on what's called "herd immunity." A certain number of any population group needs to have been vaccinated to maintain the ability of the whole population -- "the herd" -- to resist the spread of a disease. Ms. Anderson offers the example of what in my day was called "the German measles" -- rubella. All it takes are five unvaccinated kids in a class of 25 for the herd immunity to break down, creating an opportunity for the disease to spread to younger siblings and to other medically vulnerable people who can't be vaccinated. If you were traveling to Europe between 2009 and 2011, you may remember warnings about the huge outbreak of measles there -- brought on by a "failure to vaccinate susceptible populations."

Here in the U.S., several recent outbreaks of measles, have been traced to pockets of unvaccinated children in states that allow personal belief exemptions. The Reuters news service reports 13 confirmed cases of measles in central Indiana. Two of them were people who showed up for the Super Bowl in Indianapolis. Patriot and Giants fans back east have been alerted. So far, no news is good news.

But this is serious business, made more so by complacency. My generation remembers when measles killed. Killed at as many as 500 people a year before we started vaccinating against them in 1963. My wife and I both lost grandparents in the great flu pandemic of 1918 that killed as many as forty million globally. Our generation was also stalked by small pox, polio, and whooping cough before there were vaccinations. In a country where few remember those diseases, it's easy to think, "What's to worry?" But as the movie so forcefully and hauntingly reminds us, the earth is now flat. Seven billion people live on it, and our human herd moves on a conveyer belt of constant mobility, so that a virus can travel as swiftly as a voice from one cell phone to another. When and if a contagion strikes, we can't count on divine intervention to spare us. That's when you want a darn good scientist in a research lab. We'll need all the help we can get from knowledge and her offspring.

For all its many qualities, including some fine acting, Contagion was frozen out of the Oscars -- not a single nomination. In fact, none of my favorites were nominated. Nonetheless, let's go to the movies for some insights on our politics today, because when it comes to storytelling, Hollywood and Washington are co-dependents. Political conspiracies, skullduggery, and infighting have long provided solid plotlines for moviemakers. In turn, politicians try to embrace the values that movies depict as the noblest virtues of the American character: selfless courage, patriotism, sincerity and compassion. Both know that movie entertainment informs our image of what leaders should be but at the very same time capably and handily distracts us from certain grim truths.

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04:39 PM on 03/26/2012
Many professing Christian's fail to recognize when our Lord speaks to us in plain truth, such as "They that are healthy have no need of the physician, but they that are sick". He said this not only for example's sake for the sinners need to come to Him, but He is saying it also because it is plain truth. In this we must needs partake in preventative medicine as well, not as a trust in man, but as always in God. When penicillin was found out, nobody argued it's need, as well as the polio vaccine. They that need the physician are the most vulnerable, not they that are already immunized.
12:20 AM on 03/09/2012
Co-Author of Lancet MMR-Autism Study Exonerated on All Charges of Professional Misconduct

http://www.ebcala.org/areas-of-law/vaccine-law/co-author-of-lancet-mmr-autism-study-exonerated-on-all-charges-of-professional-misconduct?utm_source=Elizabeth+Birt+Center+for+Autism+Law+&+Advocacy+List&utm_campaign=9f11ed7488-Wakefield_Colleague_WalkerSmith_Exonerated3_7_2012&utm_medium=email

Dr. John Walker-Smith, considered the father of pediatric gastroenterology, has today been restored to his much-deserved reputation of high esteem. His appeal of the U.K. General Medical Council’s 2010 decision to remove his license for serious professional misconduct has been quashed in its entirety. This decision raises questions about the validity of the 2010 GMC proceeding in general.

The GMC proceeding was a multi-year, multi-million dollar prosecution against Drs. Wakefield, Walker-Smith, and Murch. It related to a controversial 1998 study published in The Lancet suggesting a possible link between autism, the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine and bowel disease. Based on the GMC prosecution, both Drs. Walker-Smith and Wakefield lost their licenses to practice and the Lancet article was officially retracted. The GMC alleged that the physician-authors had failed to obtain necessary ethical clearances and that they had subjected the twelve children in the study to unnecessary medical procedures.

Justice Mitting... found that the GMC’s conclusions were “based on inadequate and superficial reasoning” and that “the finding of serious professional misconduct and the sanction of erasure are both quashed.”...
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02:51 PM on 03/09/2012
Of course, this decision, for what it's worth, cements Wakefield's research-ethics breaches, as he doesn't have Walker-Smith's out of maybe sort-of thinking that he was engaged in therapeutic interventions.
06:57 PM on 03/09/2012
Strange,

This blog is about vaccines and neither you, nor the link you provided, nor apparently any of the vaccine critics have bothered to post what the court had to say about the idea that vaccines causing autism.

"There is now no respectable body of opinion which supports (Dr Wakefield's) hypothesis, that MMR vaccine and autism/enterocolitis are causally linked".

Point #7 in the decision.

W&N
09:52 PM on 03/09/2012
I disagree with the judge. However, even if he were correct, it is not illegal or unethical to have a hypothesis which can be tested, agreed with, disagreed with. Science is full of disagreement, and what the prevalent beliefs of one decade change by the time a few years have passed. Was Andrew Wakefield's crime that he reported the parents saw a link between MMR and autism and bowel disease, and he thought that was plausible and deserved further study? The 1998 paper did not even claim to prove a link, it simply described a group of 12 children and called for further study.
09:55 PM on 03/09/2012
But what this judge's decision does do is totally negate many of the allegations against Dr. Wakefield -- from the GMC findings and Brian Deer's articles and Fiona Godlee's statements. The judge found that these children were seriously ill, were referred for treatment because they really needed treatment (not as fodder for a lucrative lawsuit - which never happened) and that they were treated according to their medical needs.
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sabelmouse
my micro bio is emty
06:44 AM on 03/05/2012
can somebody please explain to me why this important , and in no way offensive , comment was deleted ?
it was pending for hours yesterday and now it's deleted ?

[ Heather XW Commented 21 hours ago
"The majority of the population is not covered by measles
vaccine-immunity. If you follow the CDCs booster protocal a
person in their 50s should have had 4-5 MMR or single measles
vaccine injections. Since the vaccine immunity wanes these
booster protocals are vital in maintaining vaccine induced herd
immunity. The herd immunity believers say you need 90+%
compliance in order to keep measles away. We are well below
that number. So where are all the 100,000s of measles
diagnosis? Where are the 1000s of deaths? Are you vaccine
boostered? And why is it that infectious disease always trumps
vaccine induced deaths and chronic disorders. I'm not
anti-vaccine, I think it should be a choice for the patient
with clinician involvement. The government has no right in
mandating medical procedures that can kill." ]
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Heather XW
08:25 AM on 03/05/2012
I don't understand it either?
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sabelmouse
my micro bio is emty
11:24 AM on 03/05/2012
the crazy system!
meanwhile; these are very good points, the logic is unavoidable once you think it through but to much reality for some , i guess.
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Sunwyn Ravenwood
Farewell my friends, time to go...
07:07 AM on 04/11/2012
Evil computer gremlins.
02:42 AM on 03/05/2012
To those who believe vaccinations are safe and the continuing of my earlier thread: You agree that refusing vaccinations is akin to child abuse? You my friend are a very dangerous being. You are so entrenched with your dogma that you refuse to explore any of the facts and experiences that refute the safety of vaccinations. Maybe this information scares you? I definitely have empathy for all the families of the veterans who have Gulf War syndrome who encounter individuals like you. Also empathy for all the children and adults who have suffered or died from vaccinations, all because of the incorrect theory of herd immunity that individuals like you adhere to.
I repeat , this country will never have a safer schedule or safer vaccinations with individuals like you who just continually deny the problems associated.
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Sunwyn Ravenwood
Farewell my friends, time to go...
07:09 AM on 04/11/2012
If people want to not vaccinate their children they should be free to do so, but they should not be allowed to send their children to public schools. Keep them at home and teach them that evil spirits cause disease and can only be warded off by sacrificing black chickens in the dark of the moon.
02:39 AM on 03/05/2012
Patient AA suffering from severe Guillain-Barre syndrome. She exhibited symptoms within two weeks of receiving the flu vaccination. She had seen two previous physicians who deny any connection with the flu vaccination and she is not offered a VARES form.

Patient BB a child with the measles rash, exhibited two weeks post MMR vaccination. Her father a pediatrician (parents are divorced) insisted the classic measles rash has no association with the vaccination.

I can go on with countless examples.

Why you do not read about the issues with vaccinations? Are you you afraid? Too much vested? What happens if you are open to a real dialogue, any true meaningful exchange? I always read and research both sides which is why I have read what the CDC puts out there and more.

If you decide you actually would like to entertain any notion of understanding my position which is, the need for accurate reporting, safer vaccinations and schedule then start with:

"Vaccine Epidemic" edited Louise Kuo Habakus, M.A. and Mary Holland, J.D. Research Scholar, NYU School of Law.

I am done with this thread.
07:23 PM on 03/04/2012
WHAT PARENTS NEED TO KNOW: The best and SAFEST way to prevent cervical cancer is yearly Pap smears NOT Gardasil. HPV has been around for thousands of years and will mutate so that the vaccines will eventually be ineffective. Then guess what? Time for a new vaccine. A Pap smear will show pre-cancerous cells. Depending upon the severity the patient will be watched (low grade) or will have a LEEP procedure (high grade) which cures the problem as long as it if found early enough. MOST LOW GRADE CERVICAL LESIONS WILL RESOLVE ON THEIR OWN IN 6 MONTHS TO A YEAR. There have also been studies done at Johns Hopkins using a mushroom known as Coriolus which actually boosts the immune system. This suplement was found to help even some high grade lesions resolve on their own. Gardasil is a travesty with over 28,000 adverse reactions. It should be pulled ASAP.
11:45 AM on 03/04/2012
If vaccinations work as well and are as safe as reported , why should the vaccinated population perceive risk from there being non vaccinated parties? You can't have it both ways; either the vaccinations work and there is little to no risk from people who choose to decline them, or the vaccinations are neither as safe nor as effective as promised leaving vaccinated people equally at a risk of contracting them- earning this concern of public health officials...?
A side thought on the matter: but since vaccinations come from big private companies, they probably have a few billion ($) reasons to want to pressure people not buying their products to start doing so. . .
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01:21 AM on 03/04/2012
"But this is serious business, made more so by complacency. My generation remembers when measles killed."

This.

My mother made sure that my brother and I had all of our vaccinations. She remembers. Those that haven't had close encounters with these deadly illnesses don't realize just how dangerous they are.
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
09:14 PM on 03/03/2012
I very nearly died of whooping cough, and I suffered a near-fatal bout of pneumonia from a case of the flu. You had better believe my kids got their shots!
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melanied0721
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03:48 PM on 03/03/2012
the people who get vaccinated and get their children vaccinated why do you have concerns with people who dont? if the people who do not get them and get sick than why do you care if you got the vaccine..? what is the problem??? vaccines work so well and keep all of you from not getting sick than why are all of you complaining ?? why are you all so worried and scared??
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
09:16 PM on 03/03/2012
Vaccination is not 100% effective. Neither is having the illness--it took three rounds of German measles before I finally built an immunity. Your unvaccinated child still poses a risk to mine.
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melanied0721
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04:26 AM on 03/04/2012
and you and yours pose a risk to mine
01:06 PM on 03/03/2012
I am a white American man in my 60's and I have always been proud of my country. I still am, but the attitude I hear too commonly regarding childhood immunizations is "Screw you all--I'm going to do what I damn please and I don't care if anyone else gets sick because of my actions. Besides, I don't believe in science or medicine or education for that matter. In my ignorance I'm smarter than all of you."

Right now I am residing in a small, poor Caribbean nation that can't measure up to us for wealth or education. However, the people of this island (who describe themselves as at least 110% Christian) try hard to do a good job managing routine public health. A much higher percentage of their children receive all of the immunizations they are supposed to have and routine health services are available without cost. Not coincidentally, this nation has one of the highest incidences worldwide of people who are over 100 years old.

We may be getting better and better at letting people do what they want without regard for the consequences, but we are descending by every measure in the many global measures of health, longevity, and general well-being, Not much of a record of achievement in the last 30 years.
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04:17 PM on 03/03/2012
John-in-Exile,

Many children are dying and becoming disabled by vaccines here in the US. We have a national Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) that collects this data. In 2011 32,297 reports were added to the VAERS. According to the FDA only 10% of actual adverse events are ever reported so we can assume the real scope of death and injury from vaccination is....

322,970 victims in 2011.

These victims matter to me. My son sustained a sever brain injury after being injected with DTaP, MMR, Hib, Varicella and PCV 7 in one day. I for one am concerned about the fraud in the pharmaceutical & scientific industry and am opposed to the chummy relationship between the US government regulators and pharma.

I have a home in Exuma and love the Caribbean people. I have had long discussions about this issue with my friends there. Did you know their vaccine schedule isn't equal to the US. They do not receive all the vaccines that we do here and their booster protocol is *much* less. 2 year olds in the US can receive up to 30 injections. You tell that to any Bahamian mom and watch the blood drain from their face.

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Heather XW
04:17 PM on 03/03/2012
I can also tell you that the people of the Bahamas are not overmedicated and they live off the land. They eat tons of fish and rarely eat red meat and also are active. To compare this population to the US isn't even logical. 6 million children in the US take antipsychotics that's unheard of in the Bahamas. All of our drug intervention protocols are rare or completely nonexistent in the Caribbean.

My friends who have relocated to the US and put their children in public schools have had to get a load of "catch up" vaccinations in order to achieve the US standard. So let's not make unfair comparisons.

You should read more on the issue. I would start with the recommended schedule and know the vaccines offered, then I would read the manufactures product insert sleeves that the pediatricians never give you.

Here is what a vaccine research scientist has to say about the matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ--PQBgam8

www.autismrawdata.net
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StephenJK
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08:10 PM on 03/03/2012
Let 'em know, Heather!
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melanied0721
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09:13 AM on 03/03/2012
i really dont want to put my personal beliefs on here b/c obviously i will get crazy reply's b/c no one wants to be wrong.. Its the persons choice weather or not the want to get vaccines or vaccinate their child.. More people die from Pneumonia, heart disease and you dont see Vaccines for these.. If people are so willing to trust a government( who cant even help their own country and cares more about money and but ting into other countries business) by putting these viruses into your children than thats your business.. If parents go on their instinct and my instinct is enough for me
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Pity-Fan Me
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11:01 AM on 03/03/2012
More people die from Pneumonia, heart disease and you dont see Vaccines for these.

~ Heart disease is not infectious and it is multifactorial so can't have a "vaccine". I'll just let you Google "pneumonia" and "vaccine".

~ Please don't let blind distrust masquerade as motherly instinct.
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melanied0721
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01:13 PM on 03/03/2012
Pneumococcal vaccination is a method of preventing a specific type of lung infection (pneumonia) that is caused by Pneumococcus bacterium. There are more than 80 different types of pneumococcus bacteria-23 of these are covered in the current vaccination.
Pneumococcal vaccination does not protect against pneumonia caused by microbes other than pneumococcus bacteria,

hope this helps... dont hurt yourself trying to think now
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
03:33 PM on 03/03/2012
Google "Edward Jenner", you most astonishingly ignorant woman.

It's not about a government; it's about 250 years of acquired knowledge.

If you persuade people to follow your superstition, then some of them will be killed unnecessarily - no differently than if you shot them at random.
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Taximom5
02:27 PM on 03/02/2012
Perhaps Mr. Moyers would feel differently if he had to hold HIS seizing baby, one hour after receiving vaccines--vaccines to prevent diseases for which US babies are rarely at risk, such as hepatitis B.

Perhaps if Mr. Moyers had been told, over and over, that that reaction and several others had nothing to do with vaccines, because "vaccines can't do that," only to be eventually told by several specialists (yes, MEDICAL specialists, like neurologists, gastroenterologists, rheumatologists, and even pediatricians) that, in fact, "vaccines did that," he might think to do a bit more research, after which he would find thousands of parents whose children had the same reaction, and who were told the same thing.

It's a very, very sad fact, that, really, none of us "get it" until it happens to our own child.

Mr. Moyers, take a good hard look. The number of parents who wish they could take back the vaccines that killed or permanently damaged their children is greater than the number of parents whose children died from "vaccine-preventable illnesses."

Do YOU have the right to determine what gets injected into someone else's body?
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
02:49 PM on 03/02/2012
Bad luck, anecdotemom1.

The rest of us know that the chances of your baby being hurt by hepatitis is much greater than in taking the vaccine.
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Taximom5
03:12 PM on 03/02/2012
I don't think so. Hepatitis B is primarily transmitted through contaminated needles and through body fluids (i.e., sexual contact). A child of parents who are not carriers of Hepatitis B is not at risk, especially during infancy.

If one is worried about Hepatitis B, one can always give the vaccine before sending the child to school.

However, the Hep B vaccine has serious risks:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/new-study-hepatitis-b-vac_b_289288.html
"New Study: Hep B Vaccine Triples The RIsk of Autism in Infant Boys"

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2011/04/25/us-concedes-hep-b-causes-lupus/
http://www.vaccines.net/1TOPEDJ.pdf
http://vaccinationeducation.com/hepatitis.html
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Taximom5
03:13 PM on 03/02/2012
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/hep-b.htm
"FRANCE STOPS VACCINATING CHILDREN WITH HEPATITIS B
15,000 French citizens filed a lawsuit against the French government for understating the risks and overstating the benefits associated with the hepatitis B vaccine. Hundreds of people were reported to have suffered from auto immune and neurological disorders, including multiple sclerosis, following hepatitis B vaccination. As a result, in October 1998, the French Minister of Health ended the mandatory hepatitis B vaccination program for all school children."
06:44 PM on 03/02/2012
Do you have the right to expose or have your children expose other children in classrooms or daycare? If you sign a waver, I want to be able to sue the living out of your and yours. I will, too.
You can get vaccinations that aren't "heavy mixes of the cocktail of everything". Almost all vaccinations work amazingly well and the troubles at a very small percentage come from the cheap 5x cocktail. Spend a little money and get your child separate vaccinations.
Also, don't listen to one off physicians and their opinions. The science is from larger studies and peer review. That is how it works. Anecdotal occurances aren't scientific with science. Too much opinion.
04:12 AM on 03/03/2012
"Anecdotal occurrences" would be science if they were studied, but our government doesn't want to know.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500803_162-4090144-500803.html

Healy goes on to say public health officials have intentionally avoided researching whether subsets of children are "susceptible" to vaccine side effects - afraid the answer will scare the public.

"You're saying that public health officials have turned their back on a viable area of research largely because they're afraid of what might be found?" Attkisson asked.

Healy said: "There is a completely expressed concern that they don't want to pursue a hypothesis because that hypothesis could be damaging to the public health community at large by scaring people. "First of all," Healy said, "I think the public's smarter than that. The public values vaccines. But more importantly, I don't think you should ever turn your back on any scientific hypothesis because you're afraid of what it might show."

As an example, Healy points to the existing vaccine court claims.

CBS News has learned the government has paid more than 1,300 brain injury claims in vaccine court since 1988, but is not studying those cases or tracking how many of them resulted in autism.

The branch of the government that handles vaccine court told CBS News: "Some children who have been compensated for vaccine injuries…may ultimately end up with autism or autistic symptoms, but we do not track cases on this basis."
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500690_162-4086809.html
04:12 AM on 03/03/2012
Unanswered Questions from the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program: A Review of Compensated Cases of Vaccine-Induced Brain Injury
http://digitalcommons.pace.edu/pelr/vol28/iss2/6/
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
09:09 AM on 03/02/2012
Science and medicine make people live long; fear, ignorance and superstition shorten life.
11:37 AM on 03/02/2012
Yes, that is why we need to apply sound medical and scientific principles to evaluating the adverse effects of our vaccines, rather than simply requiring blind faith and dogmatic insistence that all is well.
04:07 AM on 03/03/2012
The vaccine pushers go against all they themselves say about science. Look at the adverse effects of vaccines over the years and you have a very different story than what we are told by the government. Look at the science of the SAFETY of the vaccines NOT just whether or not they theorectically prevent disease.
07:44 AM on 03/03/2012
Good point about the importance of sound science.

Since the scientific community is clear on the safety and efficacy of vaccines...
And since the anti-vaccs continue to get basically every part of the science wrong...

The conclusion is obvious.

Thanks for reminding us that it is for very good reasons that the world rejects the anti-vaccs POV.

W&N
TomMartin
Freedom and equality.
06:59 AM on 03/02/2012
That is disgusting, to grant religious exemptions, because of kooky sects like Christian Science. Because of that many will die.
06:46 PM on 03/02/2012
If they get the waver, people should sue them if their child raises the percentage of exposure to disease. They can take their child elsewhere and home school it.
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melanied0721
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08:53 AM on 03/03/2012
than you can sue the President and government and the Scientist for 1 letting foreigners into the country (who dont need to be vaccinated) for bring said disease and 2 for the scientist who made the "disease" and the government who put it out there.. to "test" on people... good luck with that.... oh and next time my kid gets a sinus infection from another kid maybe i should sue their parents oh wait that only works if theres a vaccine for it right?
01:31 PM on 03/03/2012
Lucy, homeschool "it"?

All this hysterical bashing of unvaccinated children is unbelievably stupid.