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Is Capitalism Moral? Wrong Question...

Posted: 07/22/11 02:54 PM ET

André Comte-Sponville is a popular French philosopher. When I say "popular" I mean that his writing sells books. One of his bestsellers is entitled Is Capitalism Moral?

In a nutshell, he says that capitalism cannot be an activity constrained by anything other than the laws of the market, which are not moral but technical. Not your stereotypical French leftie spouting warmed-over Marxism, certainly, but much too glib nevertheless.

Michael Moore, in his film Capitalism: A Love Story, posits that Americans have been sold a bill of goods -- so to speak -- concerning capitalism, uncritically accepting that market forces dictate life and if you play along, sooner or later you'll get rich. Too bad that Mr. Moore makes his point with heavy-handed theatrics, in effect creating propaganda.

As we contemplate the inability of the American economy to lift itself out of the depression that has devastated our common life, there is a temptation to say that capitalism is all wrong, immoral. However, alternatives were tried in the twentieth century, and they failed. The bloodbaths that drowned communist and national-socialist economies ended them (hard to remember that the Nazis were economically at least socialistic...) Or else to insist that the market will make all things right again, if only we lower taxes, get rid of government regulations, red tape, blah-blah-blah. Reaganomics ending up requiring the largest peacetime tax increases in history in order to avoid bankrupting the country. Now we're almost there again...

Complex economies are, well, complex, with all kinds of actors, including government, finance, manufacturers, service providers, and of course, millions of consumers. And it seems to be a tried-and-true fact that across all sorts of human differences, the best way to distribute goods and services is market capitalism.

So is capitalism going to come to the rescue? No. Because what we are living under is not market capitalism, but something else. Market capitalism does work according to the laws of supply and demand, and markets need to be regulated to the extent that they remain open to all. The stock markets should be sources of capital, investors willing to place their surplus money (capital) into ventures that will have a reasonable chance of returning a profit. Those markets need regulation as well, since boom-bust cycles result from unbridled speculation. Of course, anyone investing in a business, whether directly or through stock ownership, is taking a risk -- speculating. But there is a second level in which the instruments of speculation -- stocks and bonds -- become themselves marketed commodities. Mutual funds, which hedge risks by owning a spread of different financial instruments, are perhaps the simplest example of these.

Those companies that go to the capital markets for investments become responsible to their shareholders. Being publicly traded means that corporate managers need to keep the stock value and dividends in mind as they make decisions in their particular markets. Now it used to be that if you wanted to get into the stock market, you would go to an investment counselor, a broker who had trading rights in the stock market, and after selecting what you wanted, you became part of a partnership of brokers all of whom had their own money invested as well.

Things changed in the 80s, as brokerages became more and more aggressive and finally became publicly-traded themselves. For more, read Michael Lewis' Liar's Poker and his much more recent The Big Short.

The minute a company is publicly traded, it loses some control, because it becomes responsible not only to its clients -- who are the true source of corporate profits -- but also to its shareholders, who deserve a return on their investments that underwrite the company's expansions.

Nothing wrong with that, or is there? Not if you are Alcoa or Pepsico. However, if a brokerage firm, whose clients are investors, is itself owned by investors, which investors should the firm favor?

In the normal course of things, traders want to limit risk and maximize profits for their clients. I have mentioned the mutual fund, for example. The markets become themselves sources of profits. Commissions aren't enough for your shareholders, however, because the richer you can make them the more likely they are going to keep you and pay you well. Options and futures aren't profitable enough, we need other instruments to trade, other markets to create. The firm becomes not a partner with its clients but something else entirely.

There is a straight line from this development to Goldman Sachs and other investment banks selling financial instruments to their clients while themselves betting that these instruments would lose money. They sold their own clients short, figuratively and literally. And don't get me started on the credit rating agencies...


 

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André Comte-Sponville is a popular French philosopher. When I say "popular" I mean that his writing sells books. One of his bestsellers is entitled Is Capitalism Moral? In a nutshell, he says that c...
André Comte-Sponville is a popular French philosopher. When I say "popular" I mean that his writing sells books. One of his bestsellers is entitled Is Capitalism Moral? In a nutshell, he says that c...
 
 
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Bishop Pierre Whalon
10:02 AM on 07/26/2011
i know lots of religious leaders who preach against greed.
Myself included. It is one of the traditional deadly sins, as you point out. There is a joke that if you preach on lust, everyone will feel convicted, but if you attack greed, "now you're meddling..."
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
11:58 AM on 07/25/2011
I think any name whether capitalism, socialism, etc. is wrong when people don't do the right thing. Democracy sounds good until you realize we don't have one. People with money can buy and do whatever they want and that leads to corruption and the churches are no different. It is in the people itself to feed the good side but they will always feed the bad side first. Eventually, mankind will destroy itself.
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11:52 AM on 07/25/2011
Bishop,

Why aren't religious leaders preaching against greed from their pulpits ?

The last I knew it was one of the Deadly Sins:

http://www.deadlysins.com/sins/index.htm
The Seven Deadly Sins revealed

"...Greed

is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm
of the spiritual. It is also called Avarice or Covetousness...."

Shouldn't religious leaders be telling their congregations about sweatshop-produced goods, growing inequality, etc. ?
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Kye154
07:20 PM on 07/24/2011
The writer of this article seems to forget the blood baths that we had in this country over capitalism, during the late 1800's and early 1900's. Do you recall the Haymarket riot? Or, how about all of those bloody coal mining and railroad strikes? Remember the other Great Depression of 1873 that forced people to move further west?

And, no we have not tried all other forms of economic governance. We have only experimented with a few, mostly cobbled together by a few idealists, yet never, fully implimented. The world is governed by very little intelligence, so it is not accurate to say, we have tried everything, and capitalism reigns supreme above all others. Capitalism is simply the antiquated default that everyone falls back on when they can't get other systems to function properly.

When people are accustomed to living under Capitalism all their lives, it is hard for them to have an appreciation for anything better. So, they continue down the same old rut. It is just like having any appreciation for the environment, if you have already cut down all the forests, and polluted all the water. No one knows what it was like before. Then the struggle for life becomes survival in an environment you already have made for yourself.
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Bishop Pierre Whalon
05:40 AM on 07/25/2011
Having started ministry as a "labor priest" in the collapse of industry in western Pennsylvania, I remember also the bloody Homestead strike, put down by force. The right to organize is a basic human right.

Furthermore, markets need regulation, and economic actors (consumers included) need educating. When I say "bring capitalism back!" I am trying to be provocative.
07:12 PM on 07/24/2011
no system is moral, right or wrong. it is just a system. it's how the system is used by those who direct it
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Bishop Pierre Whalon
05:01 AM on 07/25/2011
Thanks for making my point.
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Mike Cofta
05:19 PM on 07/24/2011
...a very nice article. One that a conservative, like myself, can agree with on most points! That said, I wish you would have resisted some of the hyperbole(oligarchy, masters-of-the-universe, etc.) It allows the readers an "evil-by name" to focus blame on and possibly avoid an obvious truth. ...and that is, that we all share in the responsibility for the mess we are in. We all want our our "free" stuff from Uncle Sam and we push our elected representatives to bring home our share of the "pork". The rich want their tax breaks and the poor want their "tax breaks (homestead tax credit, earned income tax credit, etc.) that also amount to free money. We cry to our elected leaders that the cable t.v. companies are gouging us. Rather than taking part in actual market control and discontinuing cable, we want our politicians to do it for us. That allows the cable companies to lobby that one person rather than having to actually concentrate on having to satisfy many customers. We surrender that kind of control on a huge chunk of our daily life. ...How moral is that???
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LunaPark
Don't believe it until it's officially denied
01:34 PM on 07/24/2011
"In the normal course of things, traders want to limit risk and maximize profits for their clients."

Is it moral for the government to transfer the risk from the clients to the taxpayers? What term is used to describe government stepping in and taking the risk away from investors?
01:01 PM on 07/24/2011
Good article Bishop; but you left out the other alternative to the systems of capitalism and socialism, and that is the system that the created the greatest prosperity for the common man that the world has ever seen: the blending of capitalism and socialism in both America and Europe.
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bllnsinchnge
peace, markets, freedom
12:20 PM on 07/24/2011
I enjoyed your article, many good viewpoints expressed. Yes, a return to capitalism is what is needed. When brokerages are given taxpayer bailouts and mortgage holders are nationalized you have socialism. By all means, bring back laissez-faire free markets, the sooner the better. The only regulation needed is allowing failures to be replaced by success.
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11:08 AM on 07/24/2011
Well done, sir.

Those who espouse self-regulation are ignoring human nature. All of us have the ability to become evil, as was demonstrated by the Stanford Research Experiment:

http://www.prisonexp.org/
The Stanford Prison Experiment: A Simulation Study of the Psychology of Imprisonment

"A Simulation Study of the Psychology of Imprisonment Conducted at Stanford University

Welcome to the Stanford Prison Experiment web site, which features an extensive slide show and information about this classic psychology experiment, including parallels with the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib. What happens when you put good people in an evil place? Does humanity win over evil, or does evil triumph? These are some of the questions we posed in this dramatic simulation of prison life conducted in the summer of 1971 at Stanford University.

How we went about testing these questions and what we found may astound you. Our planned two-week investigation into the psychology of prison life had to be ended prematurely after only six days because of what the situation was doing to the college students who participated. In only a few days, our guards became sadistic and our prisoners became depressed and showed signs of extreme stress. Please join me on a slide tour describing this experiment and uncovering what it tells us about the nature of human nature.

--Philip G. Zimbardo"

The battle against oligarchs is a never-ending fight.
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bllnsinchnge
peace, markets, freedom
12:16 PM on 07/24/2011
Human nature without freedom? Try again, that is not capitalism.
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12:47 PM on 07/24/2011
I didn't say anything about freedom, only that we should be a Nation of Laws, NOT a Nation of Men.

"Power always thinks... that it is doing God's service when it is violating all his laws." — John Adams
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Bishop Pierre Whalon
07:44 AM on 07/24/2011
France is not a socialist country, contrary to popular opinion. Just as the Parti socialiste... Or read this: http://web.mac.com/pwhalon/Bp_Pierre_Site/Blog/Entrées/2010/11/20_Wingnutism..._just_plain_nuts.html
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Robert SF
05:03 PM on 07/23/2011
"However, alternatives were tried in the twentieth century, and they failed."
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We need to start looking critically at the above article of faith. Democracy originated in Ancient Greece, but it wasn't until two thousand years later that stable democracies appeared. In the case of socialism, it was tried for less than a century by fewer than two dozen nations, half of which were not really independent nations anyway. You could equally point to Latin America to prove that democracy doesn't work. Whenever it's tried, a military junta is sure to follow.

As for socialism's economic failure, well, no kidding. The US and other countries in the developed world did everything they could to economically damage socialist countries. So we drove the Soviets to bankruptcy. We could have done the same to France, and what would that have proven?

And as for the human rights nightmare that socialism turned out to be in the practice, was that really socialism's fault? Consider that Russia was a human rights nightmare before socialism, and continues to be a human rights nightmare after socialism. The same goes for China. When in 5,000 years has it been a non-authoritarian culture?

Socialism isn't what you've been told, folks.
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teachone
Knowledge is Power
03:50 PM on 07/23/2011
You need to find a new line of work!
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Bishop Pierre Whalon
07:41 AM on 07/24/2011
Such as?
jhNY
Mercy.
01:33 PM on 07/23/2011
I look forward to Paul Krugman's analysis of the Episcopal Church. Should be likewise compelling stuff.
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Bishop Pierre Whalon
07:40 AM on 07/24/2011
Nobel Prizes all around!
jhNY
Mercy.
03:05 PM on 07/24/2011
Hope for humanity's sake, and your own, that you do something that might cause you to win one.

But the proffering of the cliched advantages/disadvantages of mischaracterized economic systems is probably not going to get you a ticket to Oslo.

Capitalism has been around two centuries plus, more or less, and yet, in all that time, there have been no examples of a literally free market, as capitalists always seek to influence the politics of the nation in which they practice their arts so as to fend off regulation, tax and competition, and wherever possible, to secure advantage.

The seeking of influence is not an aberration of capitalism, it is an intrinsic and inseparable component.

A hankering for a return to free market capitalism is an exercise in nostalgia, not a revisiting of historical circumstance.
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Amber Berglund
Got Mashed Potato, ain't got no T-Bone
02:08 AM on 07/23/2011
" Reaganomics ending up requiring the largest peacetime tax increases in history in order to avoid bankrupting the country. Now we're almost there again..."

Now, I could be reading this wrong...but haven't we been at war for the last 10 years?...with (at least) two different countries?

I know it's easy to forget that we're actually in two (or three) wars, seeing that the Independent Press hasn't had much access to photograph, report or publish from the front lines.

End the wars, cut the military budget, use that money to re-invest in the United States, and we're on track, back to prosperity.
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Bishop Pierre Whalon
08:26 AM on 07/23/2011
We have never gone to war without increasing taxes, except for 2001 and 2003. When I was younger, there was an argument about whether the nation could have either guns or butter, but not guns and butter. The no-new-taxes ideology has trumped common sense.