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Happy Father's Day, Steve Jobs!

Posted: 06/18/10 03:04 PM ET

I met Steve Jobs about 20 years ago when a Silicon Valley headhunter called me regarding a job opportunity at NeXT, the new computer company Jobs had founded after he left Apple in the '80s. NeXT was growing and Jobs wanted to hire a director of executive development. Needless to say, I was intrigued and excited by the possibility of working with the living legend.

The interview process took many weeks. I made frequent trips to Redwood City to run the gantlet of interviews with NeXT managers and executives, any one of whom could have vetoed me. Each time I passed muster, I proceeded to the next round of interviews. The lengthy selection process was a roller coaster adventure, with more than the usual highs and lows of job interviewing. The process even included an audition: I was required to teach a management seminar for Jobs and his entire executive team (no pressure).

A couple weeks after the seminar, I was invited back for a final, one-on-one interview with Jobs. We talked about his vision for NeXT, his thoughts about leadership and building a successful company, his insights into his competitors. He asked me many questions and I had a chance to ask him a few, as well. Interested in getting the measure of the man, I included personal questions along with queries about the position and the company.

"How do you want to be remembered when you die?" I asked.

"I don't care if anybody remembers me," he sniffed dismissively.

Huh! I wasn't expecting that answer. After hesitating for a second, I tried a different tack. "OK, then, what do you want the people who love you to remember about you?"

Now it was Jobs' turn to hesitate. He thought for a couple seconds, then replied, "I want them to remember me as the best dad in the world."

Until then, I had admired and respected Steve Jobs... but now I loved him. I loved his humanity; I loved his commitment to his kids, present and future. And I loved his willingness to be open and intimate, if only for a brief moment.

I didn't get the gig at NeXT ... but I did get the opportunity to compete, test my skills, and see how I measured up against the other candidate. I gave it my best shot and came away happy far having come "this close" to working for Jobs.

Some months after my Great NeXT Adventure, I left my corporate management job to become a successful consultant, author and speaker. Jobs made his way back to Apple and ultimately bought NeXT. We both lived happily ever after - just not together.

I've never met Jobs' kids, so I don't know whether or not he is the best dad in the world. But as the father of the Mac, iMac, iPod, iTunes, iPhone, iPad, and many more hi-tech offspring, he's definitely the coolest.

Happy Father's Day, Steve Jobs!

 

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I met Steve Jobs about 20 years ago when a Silicon Valley headhunter called me regarding a job opportunity at NeXT, the new computer company Jobs had founded after he left Apple in the '80s. NeXT was ...
I met Steve Jobs about 20 years ago when a Silicon Valley headhunter called me regarding a job opportunity at NeXT, the new computer company Jobs had founded after he left Apple in the '80s. NeXT was ...
 
 
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yosoyeldecider
usted no es el jefe de mí
11:51 PM on 06/20/2010
Here in the valley, one rubs shoulders with these folks on a regular basis. My next door neighbor helped Steve's daughter Lisa buy her first computer (a Windoze PC) because he was both too busy and too rigid to deal with the fact that the school was not standardized on Apple products. And by helped, I mean "bought" with her own money because S was not available.
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WoolStreet
11:34 PM on 06/20/2010
name dropping?
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billybobt
10:12 PM on 06/20/2010
The comments on this article prove you cannot discuss anything regarding apple or Steve Jobs without luring fanboys and apple-haters.

Truly lame. But at least you tried to write something fairly neutral. Nevertheless, the trolls that invade these discussions didnt read it, nor do they care.

Just like the comments on every apple related article I read. A total trolling waste of space.
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mssreader
eat, read, sleep, read and be happy
06:31 PM on 06/19/2010
I'm glad for Steve. Love his products. I'm on my third Mac and still have the first one though I only keep it for playing scrabble.

I remember in the early days thinking Steve was rather geeky but think he's mellowed and looks better with the years.

I remember reading that G/Paltrow had an Apple and I thought that was exactly newsworthy until I discovered it was the birth of her daughter.
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billybobt
10:09 PM on 06/20/2010
Read the article and read your comment and ask yourself if theres any relation between what was said and what you said.
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mssreader
eat, read, sleep, read and be happy
11:14 PM on 06/20/2010
billybobt, what's your problem? I like Jobs and met him some years ago. Reading this article brought these thoughts to mind. Am I not allowed to post them here? If you have a problem then so be it because you definitely have some problem. I can't decide if your post above mine is pro or con!
04:11 PM on 06/19/2010
BJ, I for one am delighted that you did not secure the position at NeXT otherwise our paths would not have crossed in Ojai 18 years ago and Steve Job's loss would have become mine.

David
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thewho77
02:39 PM on 06/19/2010
Steven named a computer after his daughter, Lisa. That was very thoughtful.
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Social Construct
Go left, young man.
05:09 AM on 06/19/2010
Hey, we have something in common; I don't care if I remember Steve Jobs, either. .... It's a joke.
Happy Father's Day to all the other dads out there.
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12:03 AM on 06/19/2010
People say the strangest things, and honesty comes in surprising moments. I wish you had added to your essay an encouragement that we all ask our fathers, our husbands, our bosses, and our sons the same question. Wishing a good holiday to someone who is a celebrity, and as such not particularly real to anyone, well, I can think of better ways to note the day.
08:40 PM on 06/18/2010
Would the best dad in the world deny he is a father? Steve Jobs claimed his first child, Lisa, couldn't be his because he is sterile. Well it is a good thing he got over that problem; he has since fathered three more children. What a scummy, reprehensible thing to do denying his daughter with such a ridiculous lie.
09:42 PM on 06/18/2010
Except for the fact that he never said that, you'd be right.
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thewho77
02:40 PM on 06/19/2010
He named the competator to the McIntosh project after his haughter Lisa. He has been a good father to her.
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Lynda Filler
Telling it the way I see it.
08:39 PM on 06/18/2010
I LOVE this article! Love my sexy Mac products but this story adds a human element to all the business stuff we constantly hear. I must tell you though, when I first saw SJ photo, my first thought was I am happy he is alive to celebrate another father's day. A fighter, a survivor and a man who has added much to our lives: Happy Father's Day Steve
06:41 PM on 06/18/2010
Will the guy whose place he took when he cut in line to get a kidney transplant have a happy father's day?
07:51 PM on 06/18/2010
It ain't like lining up to buy an iPhone, it's a little more complicated than that.
Being a billionaire with your own aircraft makes it easier to get to where the donated organ is, for sure, but to say he "cut in line" is, to say the least, an oversimplification.
Here's an interesting article about it:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/06/24/liver.transplant.priority.lists/index.html

Also, it was his liver, not a kidney.
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thewho77
02:42 PM on 06/19/2010
UNOS is the entity that figures out who gets the next donation based on no ID of the person needing the transplant.
07:21 AM on 06/19/2010
Where's the proof to your mean-spirited question, Larry. Or do you just believe in condemning people by innuendo and gossip? You're a low-life Larry. Shameful post.
06:23 PM on 06/18/2010
Talk is cheap. Talk to people who've actually worked Jobs and you'll get a better sense of how he actually treats people. As far as his intelligence and knowledge of what people want to hear....brilliant.
07:08 PM on 06/18/2010
I know someone who worked for him at Pixar.
He told me that Steve Jobs was neither the the most awsome human ever, or evil incarnate, but he's kind of intense, so people tend to either love him or hate him.

I met him once, he seemed like an OK guy to me...
09:35 PM on 06/18/2010
That's great; your friend gave a fairly non-descript review and cop-out terms like "intense". Is Simon Cowell "intense"? If so, I think we are saying the same thing in different ways. I know plenty of people in Silicon Valley who've worked with Jobs via NEXT and uniformly he is someone who belittles and degrades the people around him. Older age and a bout with cancer might have softened the edges somewhat but its no accident a co-worker in Fortune magazine said that he would make a great King of France. In short, you and your friend don't know what you're talking about. Apple is an incredible company and Jobs is a brilliant executive. He is not a wonderful person- spending 5 minutes with him at a conference wouldn't give you any authority over the consensus in the valley of those who've actually worked with him.
04:55 PM on 06/18/2010
Good article BJ. Thanks for opening up like that.
09:11 PM on 06/18/2010
Yeah this article was cool. A nice little slice of life from your intersecting paths. Did Jobs actually have kids or was he identifying all the products at Apple as his "kids"...
Thank you BJ