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Blake Fleetwood

Posted: May 6, 2008 12:03 AM

Who is "Tough Enough To Make Hard Choices?" Clinton Beats Obama


A CBS/NY Times poll finds that when asked who is "tough enough to make hard choices?" 70% said Clinton, 71% said McCain and 58% said Obama.

The pollster writes:

"Some perceptions of Obama's qualities have shifted in the last few weeks, and he has lost his edge over Clinton on a few past strengths. He is behind both Clinton and McCain on the question of who is tough enough to make the hard decisions a president must.

"Clinton has been campaigning as the "fighter" and the tough candidate who can get things done -- and most voters agree. Seven in 10 think both she and McCain are tough enough to make the right decisions a president has to make. A smaller number -- but still a majority -- says this about Obama."

All campaigns for president are about who will protect us? And the above results do not look good for Barack Obama. Nevertheless, the poll released yesterday had a 12-point lead for Obama over Clinton among Democrats.

But today's USA Today/Gallup national poll gives Clinton a 7-point lead over Obama, "the first time in 3 months she has been ahead."

USA Today writes:

"Barack Obama's national standing has been significantly damaged by the controversy over his former pastor, raising questions for some voters about the Illinois senator's values, credibility and electability."

The USA Today/Gallup poll also demonstrates Clinton's strength on a number of variables:

Clinton's advantage over Obama:

Is a strong and decisive leader? 53% Clinton, 37% Obama: Clinton +16

Has the best chance of beating John McCain in November? 48% Clinton, 43% Obama: Clinton +5

Shares your values? 47% Clinton, 42% Obama: Clinton +5

Cares about the needs of people like you? 47% Clinton, 43% Obama: Clinton +4

Why Obama Can't Win against McCain and Clinton Can.

Bottom line: Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania.... Obama will have trouble winning these states. Without these key states, no Democrat is going to win the general election.

All the other stuff about Obama bringing out new voters -- and winning a whole bunch of states that Democrats never win -- is wishful thinking of the kind that nominated Dukakis, McGovern, and Adlai Stevenson. Even if Obama runs a good campaign, he is not going to win those three key states. Hillary wins them, as well as a bunch of other swing states such as Arkansas and Tennessee....

The states that Obama has won in the Democratic primaries, Alabama, Kansas, Iowa, etc. will not help him in the general election. Most states, where he has won delegates, voted Republican in the last four or five elections.

Remember Indiana and North Carolina will not count for the Democrats in the general election. They will both surely go Republican in November.

Clinton is winning the swing voters. Obama can't win the Catholic vote. Since 1970 the presidential candidate, who has won the Catholic vote, has won the popular vote in the general election. Obama has lost the white vote in 26 out of 29 contests among voters who do not have college degrees.

Obama doesn't pass the patriotic test, which the Republicans are going to hammer. His answer to that question is: The fact I am running for president means that I am a patriot. This couldn't happen in any other country in the world.

Perfectly true, great answer. But such a rational argument is not going to fight off endless repetitions of Wright's "God Damm America".... Or videos of Michelle Obama saying that that she didn't respect America until Obama started running.

Is Obama tough enough? Kerry's patriotism was Swift Boated in 2004. If the Republicans could do it to Kerry, who was a genuine Vietnam War hero, what do you think they will do to Obama?

The Republicans will destroy him. Right now as a candidate, Obama is too smart by half. -- like Adlai Stevenson, George McGovern, and Michael Dukakis, who refused to pander to the average voter -- and look what happened them.

If the Democrats had the same rules as the Republicans -- because they take the long view -- Hillary would have been the nominee long ago. Republicans look at the states they have to win.... to win the general election, and they have a winner-take-all rules.

You have got to be book smart and street smart to win elections and govern successfully.

Surely Clinton has many negatives, but she has been around for a long time. Basic opinion of her will not change so easily. Obama is less known and will be easier for the Republicans to define, ...and defeat. Barack Obama is a bright man and a great politician, but his best chance of becoming president is to join Hillary as a vice presidential candidate, and run again in eight years when he will still be a young man. By then he will be a better candidate and impossible to attack.

Our most important task, our sacred duty, is to beat McCain and get the disastrous Republicans out of power and bring our troops home.




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A CBS/NY Times poll finds that when asked who is "tough enough to make hard choices?" 70% said Clinton, 71% said McCain and 58% said Obama. The pollster writes: "Some perceptions of Obama's qualiti...
A CBS/NY Times poll finds that when asked who is "tough enough to make hard choices?" 70% said Clinton, 71% said McCain and 58% said Obama. The pollster writes: "Some perceptions of Obama's qualiti...
 
 
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08:58 PM on 05/06/2008
Your swelled head is grotesque... and now a little hindsight for you... your butt's fat too!

Clinton lost a long time ago... it's denialists like you who are helping her to destroy the Democratic Party.

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05:55 PM on 05/06/2008
"Who is "Tough Enough To Make Hard Choices?" Clinton Beats Obama"

That's one way to say it, I guess. "Who doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself" is another
04:50 PM on 05/06/2008
Toughness is acting with class, treating your opponents with respect, refusing to pander to the lowest common denominator, telling hard truths, being compassionate, and having dignity in situations where all others are losing theirs.

Obama has those traits in spades. Clinton, unfortunately, has none of them. I used to believe she did, but this race has shown me my error in judgment.

Her kind of "toughness" is exactly the kind of "toughness" we've witnessed in the White House over the last 7 1/2 years. Her my way or the highway attitude is not really toughness...it is stubbornness supported by ignorance. I certainly hope we've all had enough of that.
04:39 PM on 05/06/2008
I just saw a great shirt logo on a woman on TV - No Drama with Obama. That's the leadership we need, not someone who is primarily interested in power, praise, press, and polls.
04:35 PM on 05/06/2008
Give me calm, thoughtful, respectful, informed decision making every time over quick, blustery, confrontational, pandering, single-minded decision making. We've had enough close-minded, threatening ("obliterate!!!") decio9n making in the last eight years.
OBAMA 08!
04:26 PM on 05/06/2008
You or your surrogates are cowards. You dont allow comments to be publish because no one agrees with your asinine comments. Huffington should be ashamed to publish a cowards words because if you truly believe the drivel you wrote you would defend it.
04:19 PM on 05/06/2008
This article is bull. So the good people of Pennsylvania and Ohio aren't going to vote for Obama because he is too smart and reasoned and doesn't act like typical politicians? Get your facts straight. Primary victories DON"T translate into general election victories or loses. Pennsylvania hasn't voted for a republican since 1988! What reason do they have now?
04:17 PM on 05/06/2008
Unless you or your censors start posting replies to your post then I will personally write to Huffington asking her not to publish your works.
04:11 PM on 05/06/2008
Blake,

Hillary health care plan will not past. This same health care plan cost us the house and senate over a decade ago. Why? Because no republicans supported it and she didnt even properly include democrats in on it. The moment she becomes president the new civil war starts or should I say continues. I dont want a democrat for the sake of having a democrat. I want someone I believe in, not someone who offers ridiculous republican ideas like gas tax "holiday". Seriously is this where we are at as a party? The reason why this country is in the shape it is in today is because of politicians like Clinton. Why are you supporting Rush Limbaughs choice for president?
I heard so called "democrats" complain time and time and time again about how bush is a liar, how he is a warmonger, how he believe in the politics of fear and hatred, and yet after eight years of bush what is he are asking for? A democratic candidate who lies repeatedly (Bosnia) is a warmonger (voted for authorization to go to war) and is running Jessie Helms type campaign (dont vote for the maybe black muslim). Do you really want the brand of our part y to be Hillary Clinton. We only have to look to the other side to see what happens when you choose a bad immoral leader.
04:10 PM on 05/06/2008
A tough decision would be to stand up to the administration and vote against an unjust war. A tough decision would be to dump your cheating husband. How is this woman tough? She just plays tough on TV.
03:59 PM on 05/06/2008
She's tough enough to tell the American people outright lies with out blinking if thats what you mean. Tough enough to authorize war without reading the information. Tough enough to try and change the rules of the game in mid-stream. Do you know who else was tough? Stalin, who seems almost downright warm and fuzzy compared to this cold calculating, lying, power-hungry woman.
03:49 PM on 05/06/2008
well the tough guy we have in office right now has done us a world of good hasn't he? if being tough means recklessly threatening to obliterate countries we don't like, supporting disastrous foreign policy initiatives, or ignoring the opinions of others then all i can say is thanks, but no thanks. if sen. clinton is so tough and ready for the job on day one, why wasn't she ready to win this nomination on day one? she started out with every conceivable advantage, and really just needed to avoid any major screw ups, yet she found herself completely outdone by a relative "nobody." given the state this country is in, and sen. clinton's role in helping bring that state about, i'm not sure i'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and trust that she'll get it right next time in terms of a race against "mr. american hero" mccain, let alone the presidency.
03:42 PM on 05/06/2008
the candidate who voted for this war is the best to get us out of this war? Please explain this logic.
03:35 PM on 05/06/2008
Hmmm . . . how many dubious assumptions can you cram into one post? So Hillary will win states that Obama can't, like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida, eh? Would love to see your data, because you appear to be assuming that African-Americans and liberals are going to rush to support Clinton after she's spent months race-baiting AAs and insulting liberals and Democratic activists. Sorry, but it's not going to happen. Clinton's running your basic right-wing backlash campaign, parroting all the negative tag lines about her own party that the Rethugs have used for years. She's attacking her own general election base, which is not going to turn out for her now.

You're also confusing viciousness with toughness. Clinton's proven that she's a vicious campaigner, but she's hardly tough. She can't stop complaining about a supposed media double-standard, and she fumes whenever Obama draws attention to stances she took in the past, like her support of NAFTA.

Finally, forget about Obama as VP. Clinton ruled that out when she said he wasn't qualified to be commander-in-chief. She painted herself into that corner. Unifying the party is simply not something the Clintons care about.
03:33 PM on 05/06/2008
Picking your comments as "HuffPost picks" while deleting comments that don't violate the comment policy...

My respect keeps growing.