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Bob Cesca

Posted: August 17, 2010 03:10 PM

If we take Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck and Newt Gingrich at their word, their objection to the proposed community center two blocks north of Ground Zero is that the entire area is hallowed ground, and a Muslim facility so close to the site is an insult to the victims and heroes of September 11.

Of course this is entirely about a swath of 9/11 fetishists, mostly Christians, ginning up anti-Muslim fear and demagoguery to score political points. It's a cheap and obvious exploitation of the widespread American prejudice that anyone who happens to be Muslim is equally as guilty and offensive as the terrorists who hijacked and crashed two airplanes into the World Trade Center towers.

It must be an election year because Republicans are once again rolling out September 11 as a wedge issue. You know, because they care about honoring the fallen. When it helps them politically.

If Beck, Limbaugh, Palin and Gingrich, along with the entire population of far-right AM talk radio, really cared about hallowed ground and historical preservation, they wouldn't be limiting their crusade to Park 51 (formerly Cordoba House).

As many of us have heard, there's a strip club two blocks away. I'm not sure how lap dances are less offensive than a religious community center. In fact, there are quite a few places in lower Manhattan within short walking distance of Ground Zero that would have to be eliminated as part of these stringent guidelines dictating how sacred ground ought to be respected. Via Twitter, Sarah Palin urged President Obama to weigh in on the Park 51 issue. Well, I urge Sarah Palin to weigh in on the strip club "at Ground Zero." We're waiting, Sarah. Will you campaign against the strip club? How about the gun shows that happen at Cox Pavilion, not far from the site of the Oklahoma City bombing? Or the shinto shrines a mile or two from Pearl Harbor?

Actually, come to think of it, I want all of the usual suspects -- Beck, Palin, Gingrich and the rest -- to weigh in on a variety of actual trespasses upon hallowed ground.

Let's begin with the actual ground. The Ground Zero. Literally, the ground. The One World Trade Center (aka. Freedom Tower) website notes the following feature:

The below-grade concourses will include approximately 55,000 square feet of retail space and connect to an extensive transportation and retail network...

So there's going to be a shopping mall literally in the ground of Ground Zero. "Below-grade" means "in the ground." The Ground. In other words, Sarah Palin and her entire gaggle of various babies and ghost writers can visit Ground Zero and honor the heroes and victims of 9/11 while trying on tankinis at Juicy Couture (or whatever clothing stores end up there) constructed within the actual ground of Ground Zero.

This bears repeating: unlike Park 51, which is blocks away, there's going to be a 55,000 square foot mall under the same ground where people fell to their deaths on that terrible day. Ground that's mixed with the remains of the dead. A mall.

And it wouldn't be the first time we've besmirched and destroyed the hallowed ground where American heroes have died.

I have yet to see Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin contribute their considerable wealth and celebrity to the cause of preserving the Wilderness and Chancellorsville battlefields in Virginia where Washington, D.C.'s suburban sprawl is rapidly consuming the land where thousands of Americans were killed during the American Civil War. When will these self-proclaimed patriots stand against the latest eyesore -- a Walmart Super Store that's likely to be built on the Wilderness battlefield?

Newt Gingrich, for his part, has written several books about the Civil War, one of which fantasizes about a Confederate victory at Gettysburg. Actually, I once stood several feet away from Gingrich as he held a book signing at a Gettysburg gift shop located a block or two from a McDonald's on Steinwehr Avenue -- a McDonald's that sits on the actual battlefield, specifically the location of the infamous Pickett's Charge on the third day of battle. (The gift shop is also technically on the battlefield.)

The McDonald's is next to a Friendly's restaurant and across from a hotel with a swimming pool where tourists can honor the fallen while wearing arm floaties and smacking each other with foam noodles. There's a restaurant called General Pickett's Buffet on the battlefield. There used to be a Stuckey's Restaurant literally in the Peach Orchard. There's a 7-11 convenience store where U.S. cavalry commander General John Buford, arguably the hero of Gettysburg, was headquartered on the first day.

Sarah? Beck?

On the site of some of the most bloody fighting, East Cemetery Hill, there's a towering Holiday Inn, a Rita's Italian Ice, a cigar store, a Hall of Presidents wax museum, another gift shop and another convenience store. Oh and there's a hilarious outhouse attraction complete with an animatronic townie relieving himself and yelling at tourists to stop "letting all the flies in." Hilarious. West of the town, on the site of one of the Civil War's largest field hospitals, known at the time as Camp Letterman, there's a Walmart and a trailer park. South of town, behind Power's Hill where my great-great grandfather's 155th Pennsylvania volunteer regiment bivouacked, you can walk the hallowed ground while playing a round of miniature golf at Mulligan McDuffer's Putt-Putt.

Sure, a soulless free market conservative might shrug off these monuments to corporate consumerism as being the wheels of commerce and capitalism rolling on. Even if that means rolling over the ground where 23,040 United States soldiers were killed or wounded (the Confederates suffered around 20-25,000 casualties at Gettysburg). For the federal Army of the Potomac, that was a 27 percent casualty rate. Unimaginable by today's standards.

And that leads us to an aspect of this particular expanse of hallowed ground that most directly relates to the fracas over Park 51.

To review: Park 51 will be two blocks away from the actual WTC site. It's being installed by American citizens, the chief of whom, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, is an American citizen who has worked with the Bush administration on Muslim outreach. These are peaceful Muslims who had absolutely nothing to do with the terrorist attacks nearby. The opponents of the inaccurately dubbed "Ground Zero Mosque" suggest it's the work of an enemy religion and offensive to the memory of those who died.

But at Gettysburg, just south of the town and west of the Emmitsburg Road near the tree-line from which 12-15,000 Confederate soldiers emerged on the third day of battle to attack the United States army on Cemetery Ridge, stands a tall marble and bronze statue of General Robert E. Lee, commanding general of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia. It's not the only Confederate monument on the actual battlefield, but it's certainly the most striking and the most famous. At the peak of the obelisk is Lee mounted atop his horse, Traveler, staring out at the battlefield. Just below him are heroic bronze representations of random Virginia Confederates.

This general committed treason against the United States. By definition, he was a traitor who commanded a rebel army against the U.S. and inflicted unprecedented casualties. Specifically, General Lee's invasion of the north and advance into Gettysburg was responsible for the aforementioned 23,040 United States military casualties, and, of those 23,040 casualties, 3,155 were killed on that ground.

Yet there's a statue at Gettysburg honoring the fiercest enemy of the United States at that time. Had Lee been victorious, the United States as we know it today would not exist. But he gets a statue on Pennsylvania soil -- a statue which, by the way, stands at the exact same height as the statue to U.S. General George Gordon Meade, the commander of the Army of the Potomac (and a Pennsylvanian).

I can't even imagine the September 11 equivalent of such a memorial to an enemy of the United States. Now, just to be clear, I'm not advocating one way or another about the Confederate battlefield monuments at Gettysburg (the retail shops, on the other hand, are a blight). I'm merely drawing a parallel here. And if Newt, Sarah and Glenn are truly so driven to maintain the sacred purity of American "hallowed ground," they definitely have a lot of work to do. And they can start by campaigning for the removal of the Lee statue of Gettysburg. You know, for the sake of consistency. Let's see how popular that'll be, especially with their southern fanbase.

Naturally they won't bother because the mosque issue isn't really as much about the ground as it is about stoking and capitalizing on religious intolerance. When you eliminate the inconsistencies, contradictions and oversights, all that's left is political fear-mongering, demagoguery and a disturbing disregard for the free exercise clause. If it was truly about hallowed ground, we'd hear about all of those other American sites.

Ultimately, though, I'm expecting too much from the modern conservative movement, considering how it's built entirely upon obvious contradictions, unserious chicanery and an escalating campaign of intolerance.

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07:58 PM on 08/25/2010
Just like the patriotic movement in Lebanon, I find it abusive to sort people by religion (or race), and I support ending religious segregation. The traditional ruling class in Lebanon however hangs on tight to sectarianism (judging people by their religion), and gave a permit to the sectarian Hezb Attahrir. This is a sunnite extremist party (that hardly represents any suniites!) who does not recognize nations, Lebanon or others. It only recognizes its facist agenda. Here's a well written overview on a forum known to oppose religious segregation: http://forum.tayyar.org/521200-post221.html

Why does Busch's, and now Obama's regime call this corrupt ruling class "allies" and considers advocates of true diversity a threat? Is this because they say that Israeli (Russian to be exact)
settlers re-enacted what European settlers did to American natives, and they won't turn Lebanon into a handy native's reserve, to absorb Israel's ethnically cleansed Palestinians? But anyways, back to my point, Hezb Attahrir, condoned by US allies in Lebanon, is a threat to our vision of a diverse and functional Lebanese democracy. I would like to have a leg to stand on when I tell these extremists that their sectarian agenda is obsolete, that they can't sort the planet into a Muslim and Christian area because every nation on the planet is becoming home to all religions, and races. So, for the sake of making facist sectarian political agendas insignificant, I'm for the community center near Ground Zero.”
11:47 AM on 08/23/2010
There is so much wrong with this article I don't know where to begin.
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alexeiz
Since I lost all hope, I feel much better!
03:05 PM on 08/24/2010
Somebody wise said" A fool can always look as an intelligent person if he keeps his mouth shut. Unfortunately , he usually doesn't have enough brains to do that!

I salute you, gcomt! You definitely have enough brains not to begin!
11:47 AM on 08/23/2010
There is so much wrong with this article I don't know where to begin.
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bbbbjr
freedom from religion
10:44 AM on 08/24/2010
good...glad you didnt try.
12:55 PM on 08/24/2010
Agreed.
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KidShalleen
If I'm posted, a moderator is asleep.
10:39 AM on 08/23/2010
Logic and facts, Logic and facts, Logic and facts, Logic and facts, (said with massive exasperation).
You know full well that logic and facts mean not a damned thing to these mentally and morally reprehensible people. They care not a wit for any argument that does not bolster their myopic conservative and politically opportunistic leanings. Though he botched it, the only thing that can be done now, IMHO, is for the President to come out forcefully and emphatically against this demagoguery with a prime time Presidential statement, refutiating* this bogus bull-hockey.

From a previous posting;

I agree that Obama's entrance into the controversy was tepid at best. He might have gotten
away with the Friday statement alone, but the Saturday follow up was an in-artful failure.

Now he has no choice. No more just dunking his toes in the water. It's time to take the plunge.
He has to come out with an unequivocal statement, much in the style of Mayor Bloomberg.

It's time to take the American electorate to school and explain in no uncertain terms, just exactly
what the story is on the First Amendment, and why it's important to them,and the country.
It might be a good idea to make it a special Presidential message via the media in prime
time, in order to show the importance and gravity of the situation. He must show a level of
leadership at a time when it couldn't be more important.
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RRK70
11:27 PM on 08/22/2010
Perhaps leaving the Burlington Coat Factory as an empty husk of a building would be a more fitting and symbolic representation of where American stands as a nation almost a decade after 911.
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Cory111
Life is truly good...
09:45 PM on 08/22/2010
If you don't live in New York it's none of your business...
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RRK70
11:25 PM on 08/22/2010
And if we left Civil Rights up to Mississippi and Alabama where would we be today?
02:33 AM on 08/23/2010
What a blessing It would be to be able to agree with you! The attacks of 9/11 targeted the United States, not just New York. And when Cordoba Initiative chose to tie their Mosque, as they called it then, to 9/11, even intending an unveiling of 9/11/11, they stepped squarely into the center of the spotlight that illuminates Ground Zero as an international symbol. New York deserves great deference in this debate, but it cannot be undone.
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09:43 PM on 08/22/2010
Bob, you are keenly aware that these miserable people are just "opportunists" who will try and exploit anything that they think will divide this country. They are the most mean-spirited and hateful people that want to prey on the weak and "hollow" minded among us.
09:16 PM on 08/22/2010
(CNN) – A proposed mosque to be built two blocks from the World Trade Center has little support nationwide, a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll suggests.

According to the new survey out Wednesday, nearly 70 percent of all Americans oppose the controversial plan to build the mosque just blocks away from the solemn site in lower Manhattan while just 29 percent favor the construction.

Broken down by party affiliation, 54 percent of Democrats oppose the plans while 82 percent of Republicans disapprove. Meanwhile, 70 percent of independents said they are against the proposal.

The poll also showed opposition did not vary widely by age.
09:57 PM on 08/22/2010
We have a Bill of Rights to protect us against the tyranny of the majority.
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alexeiz
Since I lost all hope, I feel much better!
02:46 PM on 08/24/2010
Thanks, well said, valuable reminder.
08:08 PM on 08/22/2010
Remember Jim Jones. I think he and his followers thought they were Christians. And Al Qaeda thinks it is Muslim. But sane people know Jim Jones was not Christian and similarly sane Moslims know Al Qaeda is not Muslim. By fighting against the mosque in Lower Manhattan one is displaying ignorance and showing the world the American freedoms are mythical.
07:58 PM on 08/22/2010
the people who passed away that day or rather murdered where of indicriminate creed and race .so out of respect for this i am surprised any beliving community is insisting on building a place of worship deturmined by one religion as you would be praying on or near the ashes of infidels of your faith.a undinominated hall of memory is the only respectable thing that could be allowed on that ground and the land should be bought at a reasomable price from the developer and a grass park where open concerts can be held may sooth the poor living souls who lost the loved ones resting underneath them.you cant tell me everyone in america is so materialistic.i accidentliy came across the site a year after and the peace was equal to the depth of loss.my profession is of this genere (?)
07:02 PM on 08/22/2010
Well said!
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Hoosierbrad
I know it when I see it.
06:30 PM on 08/22/2010
Great article. Of course Republicans and cons have long been fans of false equivalency. They probably will not understand the irony here.
09:25 PM on 08/22/2010
(CNN) – A proposed mosque to be built two blocks from the World Trade Center has little support nationwide, a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll suggests.

According to the new survey out Wednesday, nearly 70 percent of all Americans oppose the controversial plan to build the mosque just blocks away from the solemn site in lower Manhattan while just 29 percent favor the construction.

Broken down by party affiliation, 54 percent of Democrats oppose the plans while 82 percent of Republicans disapprove. Meanwhile, 70 percent of independents said they are against the proposal.

The poll also showed opposition did not vary widely by age.
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Hoosierbrad
I know it when I see it.
07:33 AM on 08/23/2010
We do not determine the enforcement of a civil right by poll in this country; otherwise we would have no civil rights!
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alexeiz
Since I lost all hope, I feel much better!
02:50 PM on 08/24/2010
On the most important issues of Philosophy, civil rights and many other areas the majority is most likely wrong.
05:35 PM on 08/22/2010
right on!
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05:27 PM on 08/22/2010
Your argument falls flat with most Americans. Strippers did not fly planes into the World Trade Center. As far as your digression with Gettysburg, McDonalds, and the retail shops there did not plot to kill Americans at Gettysburg. As weak as most of your posts I have read are, I have no idea how you even get to have a forum to express your views on this site. You don't even come close to making a good argument.
09:30 PM on 08/22/2010
The Muslims who want to build cultural center did not fly planes into the World Trade Center. General Lee plotted to kill Amerricans and he got a sttatue.
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Cory111
Life is truly good...
09:39 PM on 08/22/2010
Nor do you...
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10:01 PM on 08/22/2010
Oh hey...good one. You almost had me convinced.
04:15 PM on 08/22/2010
I'm so tired of hearing about the strip club a few blocks away. This is a non sequitur. The strip club, and sex shop that is a few doors down, have been there for years. One or both existed prior to, during and after the 9/11 incident. The point is not the "moral sensitivity" of the entirety of Lower Manhattan. It is of a specific contextual matter. If I may, it was not a group of radical strippers that caused such a catastrophe. If it had been, however, and a new even larger stripper club was to be built then perhaps you would have a cause for considering its "insensitivity" given its contextual and hypothetically new semantic value.

As for being able to build religious institutions the First Amendment does not guarantee that you can simply build one were ever you please. What is the story on the Greek Orthodox church of St. Nicholas which already existed in the area but is not having an easy time rebuilding their ruined structure?
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RRK70
07:40 PM on 08/22/2010
and here is where your logic fails...the cultural center is not being built for radical Muslims. Radical Muslics don't play basketball, swin in public pools and attend cultural events. This center is being built for Moderate Muslims, most whom happen to be AMERICA CITIZENS, who are practicing their 1st Amendment right to worship freely.

As for religious fanatics perhaps they should lock up the radio host from Houston who suggested that someone should BOMB the cultural center (that's promoting domestic terrorism if I'm not mistaken).
09:14 PM on 08/22/2010
The logic is not flawed. You didn't understand my point. For example, if there had been a mosque that had been destroyed in the tumult, in all of the irony that that would create, I would be for the recreation of such a mosque. Full stop. The point is that an entity is being introduced to a sensitive area. I do not even frown upon the construction of another mosque, in the general area of lower Manhattan. My question is why must it be so very close? Is it necessary for such a radical juxtaposition. Tell me, I have not researched this aspect, but when was the the process for this Muslim center begun? If I may belabor the point, if the project predated the actions of September 11th, I would be inclined to forgive its existence.

Yes, these are American citizens and their rights must be upheld.

As for Cesca's example of a shinto shrine 1-2 miles from Pearl Harbor that is fine. Quantifying a distance could be nasty but it's a slippery slope. One mile is 18 or so more blocks than 2. It is unwise and unnecessary to build an Islamic center there, not illegal. There are numerous Americans who practice Islam and reject the idea of the provocative nature of its proposed location.

I do not support hate from either side, right or left. An eye for an eye only blinds us all.