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Tea Party Republican Governors Embrace Socialism

Posted: 09/01/11 12:21 AM ET

One of the most brilliantly salient moments from The West Wing occurred in the episode titled "Game On" in which President Bartlet debates the governor of Florida and Republican presidential nominee Robert Ritchie. In case you haven't seen it, consider this your spoiler warning.

In the opening remarks of the debate, Ritchie, played by James Brolin, makes a case against both federal spending and interference in state issues such as education and healthcare. He hamfistedly excoriates the Department of Education for forcing students "to learn Eskimo poetry" and mocks the idea of an "unfunded mandate" -- suggesting it's "a big word."

President Bartlet, played by Martin Sheen, rebuts, "Well, first of all, let's clear up a couple of things. 'Unfunded mandate' is two words, not one big word. There are times when we're fifty states and there are times when we're one country, and have national needs. And the way I know this is that Florida didn't fight Germany in World War II or establish civil rights. You think states should do the governing wall-to-wall. That's a perfectly valid opinion. But your state of Florida got $12.6 billion in federal money last year -- from Nebraskans, and Virginians, and New Yorkers, and Alaskans, with their Eskimo poetry. 12.6 out of a state budget of $50 billion. I'm supposed to be using this time for a question, so here it is: Can we have it back, please?"

Can we have it back, please? I can't help but to return to this totally ass-kicking Sorkin interrogative whenever I hear Republicans, especially Republican governors, resurrecting the zombie corpse of Joe McCarthy and going full Red Scare against "socialist" liberals and "big government" federal spending programs.

They screech against "wealth redistribution" -- "spreading the wealth around" as John McCain, Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber used to say -- and they tell us that rich people, who never pay the full marginal tax rate anyway, shouldn't have to be punished with a three-percent tax increase, a laughably small hike in the top bracket, as a means of contributing to the common welfare, be it in the form of universal healthcare, education, infrastructure or unemployment insurance for middle and working-class Americans.

They suffer from outrageously selective amnesia by ignoring the unparalleled bloodshed of the Civil War and suggest that states could potentially secede from the Union and somehow continue to thrive without tax dollars from citizens in other states -- dollars that are collected and redistributed by the federal government and provided to the states to pay for crucial programs. Or in the case of Rick Perry, your tax dollars and my tax dollars were spread around to Texas where they helped to balance the budget there, even though Rick Perry would probably call me a socialist for supporting similar $6.4 billion endeavors. As I wrote last time, Perry asked for federal money that was redistributed from taxpayers in other states to ameliorate his $6.9 billion budget crisis. I can't help but to wonder how Rick Perry would have attained that massive bailout, funded by the president's evil stimulus bill, had he acted upon his threat to secede.

Meanwhile, over the weekend, Hurricane Irene bashed into the east coast and wreaked all varieties of destruction from North Carolina to Vermont. And, naturally, there were several states devastated by Irene that happen to be run by Republican governors, not unlike The West Wing's Rob Ritchie, who have all made names for themselves as tea party favorites due to their anti-federal government, anti-socialism, anti-tax demagoguery. "Don't Tread On Me" and the like.

Yet there they were, firing off letters to their arch-nemesis, the president, begging for federal emergency management assistance to relieve the disaster wrought by Irene. Emergency management dollars, by the way, that would not exist without a socialized system of wealth redistribution -- without tax revenue from working and middle class (and, yes, wealthy) Americans in other states.

Virginia governor Bob McDonnell and Pennsylvania governor Tom Corbett, both of whom launched into office during the anti-Obama anti-stimulus tea party wave of the last couple of years, asked for and received FEMA aid from their president. Again, it wasn't automatically gifted to them. They had to literally write to the president and ask for it. Assistance paid for by the federal government. Your money. Money that would not have been there had it not been collected from millions of taxpayers across the nation. It's important to note that a considerable number of those taxpayers are low-income, working-class Americans who are too often told they shouldn't take handouts from the government and ought to instead fend for themselves -- no federal help for healthcare or education or unemployment or COBRA subsidies -- self-hoisted bootstraps, etc... They're told this line of hooey by the same tea party Republican governors who are currently demanding help from the rest of us.

Arguably the most vocal and visible of the east coast Republican governors is New Jersey governor Chris Christie. He's another of these newfangled tea party Republicans who have a predilection for demonizing socialism while simultaneously engaging in socialism: big government handouts for corporations and the super-rich, but, you know, screw everyone else.

And there he was on television this week, demanding redistributed tax dollars from other states in order to augment New Jersey's disaster relief effort. As reported in The Huffington Post, Christie made a passionate case for federal relief:

"Our people are suffering now, and they need support now. And they (Congress) can all go down there and get back to work and figure out budget cuts later," the Republican governor told a crowd in the flood-ravaged town of Lincoln Park.

Once again, if this kind of socialism is acceptable to Chris Christie and Tom Corbett -- if it's okay to take money from the federal government and give it to New Jersey to heal its wounds and mitigate its "suffering now," why can't you and I have money from the federal government to heal our personal wounds? Why won't Chris Christie and Tom Corbett support free and universal healthcare?

You simply can't have it both ways. You can't fling your tri-cornered hat into the air, slam your pudgy fist onto a podium and rally your people against one kind of wicked socialism, while concurrently requesting and accepting an equivalent form of socialism, without being utterly dishonest, hypocritical and contradictory, not to mention completely unfair. Speaking of tri-cornered hats, where in the Constitution does it include anything about FEMA and government disaster relief? If you're a strict constitutional constructionist, as Chris Christie, Tom Corbett and other far-right Republicans claim to be in some form or another, you can't possibly support the existence of FEMA. If you're a so-called Tenther, you're technically on your own.

So while disaster relief is now and always a critical function of the federal government, I can't help but to ask Chris Christie and the others that famous Bartlet question: If you're seriously opposed to socialism and government interference in state matters, can we have it back, please?

Uh-huh. I didn't think so.

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07:27 AM on 09/05/2011
Hmmmm... I have an idea. How about the Federal Government stop stealing the money from the people in the first place? To be more specific, I call it "stealing" when money is taken from me at the point of a legal gun, then used for things from which I do not benefit.

I'm perfectly fine with paying for the police, the military and the courts, since those institutions represent the rightful role of our government: protection of everyone's individual rights.

If some modern-day Robin-Hood-wannabe went around stealing from anyone in order to give it to others, we'd put him in jail for thievery or burglary. But, apparently, there's a different standard when it's the government that does it.

So, let's ask the question a little differently: "I have given the Federal Government hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years--which has been squandered, may I have it back, please?"
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02:44 AM on 09/06/2011
I love people who rant about "their" money vis a vis the government. Do you ever stop and think what your money would be worth without the backing of the government? If not, tell you what. When you go to cash your next paycheck or dividend check, you'll receive the money in Zimbabwean dollars. See what you can buy with that.

And write to your governor today and insist he or she stop accepting Federal dollars. And don't you dare walk on our sidewalks, mail a letter or cross one of our bridges.
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rainkitty
Lively up yourself.
02:25 PM on 09/07/2011
It's no use.
09:02 PM on 09/07/2011
No problem, just stop using the roads, freeways, highways and expressways. Good luck with that.
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TRex86
Enjoying life in West Ohio
11:31 AM on 09/03/2011
In the netherworld of the Republicans there is a big difference between a "natural" disaster like a hurricaine and a manmade disaster like the Great Recession. When God smacks you, get out the federal checkbook; when an incompetent Republican administration smacks you, tough nuggies.

This profound level of contradiction makes sense when one recognizes that the Republicans are nothing but a front for a few greedy billionaires. Irene affected everyone (see the photos of yachts on the town square). Bushonomics ONLY affected the bottom 99 percent of Americans. Too bad for the parterrres. Bye bye middle class. Suck it up. Social security and Medicare weaken your "fiber." Get over it, Granny.
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asaman53
Get angry! 2012 the end of the Tea Party.
09:03 PM on 09/07/2011
Fanned and Faved!
08:53 AM on 09/02/2011
That was a great West Wing line.....Sorkin wrote it after one burning a particularly powerful rock.
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Minolta321
Photographer
05:49 AM on 09/02/2011
So you force people to pay taxes for disaster recovery. Those people then have a disaster. They ask for disaster recovery which they have helped pay into, have been forced to pay into....and they you accuse them of being socialists for asking?

What kind of logic is that? It's not factual.
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jthinker
07:21 AM on 09/02/2011
It's not proportional. You don't only get back what you've paid in. You get yours and mine, and theirs back. And, you get everybody's money when the national highways are built, and if a foreign country attacks you, you get yours and mine and their money to defend you. And, you get safer food and water, that not only you paid for, but I paid for and so did everybody else.If you get sick you get treatement that was researched and paid for by you, and me and them. And, if you pay state taxes for local and state services, it's also not proportional to what you paid. If we didn't collectively address some of these problems of living, then we'd have chaos and pretty short brutish lives. We are interdependent. There is no such thing as complete independence. And, there are many problems that can be better addressed by a group, than by each of us alone. And, yes, that's socialism. We are all better off for it. And, the countries where people are the happiest and the healthiest are socialist countries.
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cempiremtn
01:21 AM on 09/08/2011
Then move to those "Great countries", and leave America alone. Government spending has FAR outpaced personal income since the sixties.
GOVERNMENT JOBS ARE A NET LOSS OF TAX MONEY.

It takes 3 civilian workers to pay for each Government worker.

If a government worker makes $50,000 per year, and is in the 25% Tax bracket, he pays $12,500 in taxes. That leaves $37,500 for us to pay, or 3 people making $50 K, in the same 25% Tax bracket.
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sedc72
4th Gen. Vet., DC Native
04:41 AM on 09/02/2011
That's what I wanna know, 'Can we have it back, NOW!' No 'please' in this!
03:02 AM on 09/02/2011
Bob...I have to say, that was the "Best Piece of Writing" I've ever read and I've read a lot! Can't say anything else my friend but salute to 'You' !
hell in a bucket
unable to dance I will crawl
02:12 AM on 09/02/2011
Yes, take the money back. We'll be fine. Leave us alone.
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jthinker
07:27 AM on 09/02/2011
Okay. Then when a disaster hits, please don't come running to the rest of us. And when we make great strides in medical research, which we collectively pay for, please don't ask for the knowledge. And when you and yours are poisoned by uninspected food or dirty water, please don't come to us for help. And when you are attacked by a foreign country, please don't ask the federal government for help. And when employers exploit you and yours, or don't pay you even a minimum wage, please don't turn to us for help. And when you and yours suffer from the whole range of isms, (unless you're a young, white, Christian man, so you're exempt) don't turn to federal statutes for help. Deal with it among yourselves. It is absolutely crazy and backward to think a decent life is possible without a centralized government. But I guess there are people who like the idea of constantly squabbling tribalism. Try living in Somalia and see how you like it.
hell in a bucket
unable to dance I will crawl
03:10 PM on 09/02/2011
Ha, the Somalia card is dealt. Let's boil it down another way...I won't let my dog sh*t on your lawn, you don't let your dog sh*t on my lawn. We should both be able to be decent neighbors. Simple enough?
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sedc72
4th Gen. Vet., DC Native
07:05 AM on 09/08/2011
F&F! Just like I said a while ago.
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asaman53
Get angry! 2012 the end of the Tea Party.
09:05 PM on 09/07/2011
See my above posting, and have a great time living in the stone age, Tea Bagger.
01:12 AM on 09/02/2011
Well, at least some of those governors lauded FEMA and the federal response...so they at least thank you while stabbing you in the back by complaining about the "huge" federal gov.
12:40 AM on 09/02/2011
This old canard would be expected from a second year high school student. These are exactly the kinds of functions expected from the federal govt. Calling out national resources when a disaster happens is not that dissimilar from protecting the country from enemies both foreign and domestic.
Deciding on the educational standards and regulating which foods can be advertised when children are watching are not the duties of the federal govt.
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jthinker
07:32 AM on 09/02/2011
I disagree. We all collectively pay for the effects of poor nutrition. We are all in this together. Really. There is no such thing as complete independence. Really. We would do better as a people and a nation, if we felt some obligation toward each other. It would be a more civil, and safer society. This push (or actually going backwards) toward tribalism is really troubling. We seemed to have lost our capacity for empathy. This does not portend well for our country and our world.
02:12 AM on 09/03/2011
You sound like a nice caring person. I don't think you need the govt. to tell you to be that way. It would be nice if we all cared about each other. The problem is you can't legislate that. You have to admit that encouraging class warfare is doing the opposite of bringing people together.
W/o a national identity, people revert to loyalty to their tribe. That is precisely the flaw in multiculturism. Language, borders, culture define a nation.
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asaman53
Get angry! 2012 the end of the Tea Party.
09:09 PM on 09/07/2011
Nor, should government be involved in a woman's right to health care. You can't cherry-pick, your "thou shall not's.
02:14 PM on 09/08/2011
You mean an abortion and I wholeheartedly agree. The Federal govt. has no business being involved.
12:39 AM on 09/02/2011
(my repost on this thread): USA - The United States of America. One Country. We are NOT a coalition of willing, sovereign states, such as the European Union. We are ONE COUNTRY. And we've made our way in the world and gotten our status as the best and most economical­ly stable Country in the world because of our Constituti­on AS IT IS TODAY. The republican­s (and their corporate owners) seem to be doing everything they can to dismantle our constituti­on and our legacy. I do not hold the democrats blameless, but the GOP has a new hold on absolute delusion - or maybe just greed.
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tgd
"The more I see of man, the more I like dogs."
12:33 AM on 09/02/2011
Bob, thanks for your post that has actually promoted intelligent, thoughtful responses. Makes me yearn for the old days on HP.
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Minolta321
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05:54 AM on 09/02/2011
Calling people who take disaster recovery money socialists is intelligent? Disaster recovery is a function of a CAPITALIST government. These people paid into that pot just against this purpose.

This is not difficult stuff to work out. The argument that anyone who accepts a government service is a socialist is patently false. There are legitimate government services which those of us who are NOT socialists believe in and disaster recovery is one of them.

You may like the fact that the author is attacking a Republican but calling Republicans socialists for using legitimate government services is not a factual attack.
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jthinker
07:37 AM on 09/02/2011
Whenever we collectively solve a problem this is socialism. We are socially solving the problem instead of individually. It has nothing to do with capitalism, which is an economic system, not a system of governance. Perhaps you have confused socialism with communism, which is a distortion of socialist principles. But, the US has always been somewhat socialistic, as are most democratic systems. It is a matter of degree, and that's where the debates are. How socialistic do we want to be? In other words, how much obligation do we feel toward each other? I prefer a world where we acknowledge our interdependence instead of denying this.
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tgd
"The more I see of man, the more I like dogs."
12:23 PM on 09/02/2011
Sweetie, what I am referring to is that this thread did not have the usual screaming trolls calling everyone names and being combative. Each side presented their views in a civil manner unlike, for example, the thread about Obama's half-uncle.
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dpkjj
Peace on Earth
10:06 PM on 09/01/2011
A reality check. With all the discussions about Socialism, Communism, Capitalism, and so forth, let's note that there is not now, tnor to the best of my knowledge, has there every been, any society with pure Socialism, Communism, or Capitalism. All of our economies are mixed ones.

Instead of labeling things, how about just looking at what works and what doesn't based on facts and rational analysis? Or is that just too radical for the year 2011?
10:53 PM on 09/01/2011
Correct however societies that are free market driven are far more prosperous, so we should be working towards that.
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harmlesstree
Préjudice est la raison des sots - Voltaire
11:21 PM on 09/01/2011
Please, no modern advanced developed society has achieved this status by embracing anything approaching free market capitalism! The only places where anything approaching free market capitalism exists are poverty stricken failed states!

The more a country embraces free market capitalism, beyond a certain point, the more it declines economically and civilizationally! Just look at the United States, which has embraced free market capitalism to a greater degree than any other developed country in the world over the last 30 years, with its mass poverty, loss of manufacturing, stagnant wages, crime, third world levels of inequality, and decaying infrastructure!
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jthinker
07:38 AM on 09/02/2011
Free market with some regulation. Without any regulation you get Russia.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
09:56 PM on 09/01/2011
Not sure why the right is so intent on replacing the system that beat Communism with the one that spawned it.
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jthinker
07:39 AM on 09/02/2011
Communism and socialism are not the same thing. All democracies are also socialistic. Not all socialist countries are communist. All communist countries are socialistic.
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Gerald Serlin
Retired lawyer. Perserverantia Vincit
09:06 PM on 09/01/2011
You have to hand it to Cesca. He gets it wrong every time. The purpose of govt is to protect the people from threats domestic and worldwide. To accomplish this, taxes are collected and retained for use in such situations.

One such threat is the weather. When nature causes danger to the populace, it is the function of govt to assist. THIS IS NOT SOCIALISM. Socialism would be to assist one group of people over another because the are "more needy". In a storm, everyone is needy. Hence, in a federation of states (get it? FEDERAL means federation), assistance to one needy state by the federation of states that contributed to the fund for disaster relief, is akin to insurance, not socialism.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
09:46 PM on 09/01/2011
Well then, sounds like helping everyone in the case of disease or old age should be just peachy.
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Gerald Serlin
Retired lawyer. Perserverantia Vincit
10:52 PM on 09/01/2011
As you well know, disease and old age are not threats in this sense. Using semantics to try to win an argument is not logical.
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longtalldrink
Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you wan
10:35 PM on 09/01/2011
You can twist that pretzel any way you want...you can even CAPITALIZE all your words...won't do a thing for your argument. A collection of money to a community pot for the use of all is (cover your ears) socialism...pssst pass it on.