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Bonnie Fuller

Bonnie Fuller

Posted: December 10, 2010 05:10 PM

Miley partied with friends, five days after her 18th birthday getting giddily high on a bong, smoking LSD-like Salvia. Now, Salvia may not be an illegal substance in California, as it is in many other states, but that doesn't make her behavior any less self-destructive than if she was snorting cocaine.

Furthermore, Miley knew that she was being videotaped while she smoked and laughed like a hyena. What does that mean?

It means Billy Ray and Tish, that she desperately wants you to know and to act like her parents and tell her to stop, now!

She doesn't really want to be left unsupervised, partying in her house when you both are God knows where! And boy Billy Ray Cyrus has just pretty much fully admitted that he doesn't know what his daughter is up to -- he tweeted at 3:40 pm est Fri, Dec 10th, "Sorry guys. I had no idea. Just saw this stuff for the first time myself. I'm so sad. There is so much beyond my control right now."

"Her parents are apparently too busy arguing with each other to notice their daughter. And now Miley is ingesting something which will alter her reality. She's doing this because her reality is so painful that she wants to escape it," says psychotherapist Dr. Gilda Carle of drgilda.com.

"No matter how old you are -- you are affected deeply by your parents divorce. Many people like Miley aren't able to verbalize their grief so they act out," agrees psychologist Dr. Jeff Gardere, contributor to HealthGuru.com.

The unique problem that Miley has is that she's no ordinary teenager whose "acting out" is only noticed by her family and close friends. She knows that during the past year, every time she has misbehaved -- wearing see-thru tops in public, drinking underage -- she's set off a firestorm of attention in the press.

-Click here to read why experts say this is Miley's desperate call for help!
-Miley's Bong Smoking Tops Year of Bad Behavior! Here, Her Most Shocking Moments!
-Miley Cyrus Caught with Bong Five Days After 18th Birthday! Are You Shocked?
-What is Salvia? Miley Cyrus' Alleged Pipe-Drug Has Effects Similar to LSD!

 

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Miley partied with friends, five days after her 18th birthday getting giddily high on a bong, smoking LSD-like Salvia. Now, Salvia may not be an illegal substance in California, as it is in many other...
Miley partied with friends, five days after her 18th birthday getting giddily high on a bong, smoking LSD-like Salvia. Now, Salvia may not be an illegal substance in California, as it is in many other...
 
 
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05:42 PM on 12/28/2010
"LSD-like Salvia?" You have no idea what you are talking about. If Miley were holding a bottle of Jack Daniels would you be calling for a ban on alcohol. Oh that's right they tried that once. How did that work out? It doesn't work, it just drives it underground where the criminal class controls it. The US government's War on Drugs has only made the drug barons richer and more powerful,. We practically have a narco state on our border because of the WOD. Of course that gives the gov't an excuse to increase it's police powers and control over the populace just as is happening with the War on Terror. The way to control people is to keep them afraid. What people don't understand about Salvia is that it is an incredibly unique substance unlike any other "drug". Research is being done with it that may ultimately lead to some promising therapies for treating Alzheimer's disease and other illnesses. Making it a controlled substance (like marijuana-what a joke) would make it practically impossible to get a hold of and most of the research would end. More education and less ignorance is what we need. Daniel Siebert, a pioneer in the Salvia field has an excellent site http://www.sagewisdom.org/ with a lot of information worth looking into. I personally had one of the most beautiful and enlightening experiences of my life on Salvia and will forever be grateful to the "shepherdess."
12:10 AM on 12/16/2010
Did you ever consider that maybe she did it to have fun? It has nothing to do with parenting.

It is like partying with cocaine? Give me a break. A lot of great minds have benefited from hallucinogens, e.g. Steve Jobs.

Here is an article and cartoon about the media sensationalism that got this "dangerous" drug criminalized:

http://suburra.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-freedom-dies-salvia-divinorum/
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GENERATIONaleX
03:49 PM on 12/13/2010
she's 18. she's an "adult". she's experimenting. That is NORMAL. probably the most normal thing this girl has ever done in her life. I'm not a fan...but this is a non-story. And, if this girl needs more attention...from her parents or anyone...she has bigger issues than smoking a little salvia. She has been in every media publication for the past 5 years.

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Counterglow
Werner Heisenberg may have been right.
06:35 PM on 12/13/2010
Thank you so much for saving me the trouble.
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napoleon68
01:03 PM on 12/13/2010
she is now an adult, she can suffer the consequences for own behavior. the real question is where were her parents the past few years? allowing her to make sexy videos, the pole dance on television, the grinding on the director of her video, etc... all this stuff happened before she was an adult! where were they? they should have been saying "no! that is very inappropriate. you are not going to do that."
too late now.
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Edward Standley
opinionated jerk
12:07 PM on 12/13/2010
It's important not to overstate your case when talking to your kids about drugs. They know bs when they hear it. I talked openly with my kids about drugs from an early age, and discussed the differences among the many types of drugs they were likely to encounter as teens. I knew what I was talking about as a result of my own teenage "partying", didn't play down nor exaggerate the dangers. Kids know more than you might think.
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HannaSchmitz
I'm just saying
04:33 PM on 12/13/2010
All drugs are bad
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Edward Standley
opinionated jerk
04:50 PM on 12/13/2010
Well, "all drugs are bad" suffices till they start thinking and asking questions.
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Barbara Graham
Comin at u from Area 5150
02:30 PM on 12/27/2010
Sure, until you need them to live or stay sane...
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Euterpe360
I'm just a little bi-partisan
11:40 AM on 12/13/2010
Can't we just keep scapegoating Lohan and other people with REAL problems? This is such a non-event.
10:15 AM on 12/13/2010
Meh, seems like fairly normal behavior for an 18 YO. Probably, on the whole, less harmful than what she's usually up to. In the days of & after my 18th I probably would have been up to pretty much the same thing...
09:03 AM on 12/13/2010
Considering the facts that salvia is not addictive, lasts for only a couple of minutes and isn't a particularly good high anyway, I wouldn't really worry about it.
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Euterpe360
I'm just a little bi-partisan
11:38 AM on 12/13/2010
from my experience about 1/3 of everyone I've seen try it never wants to again, and I don't now anyone who uses it regularly.
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Craigy6
01:46 PM on 12/13/2010
Once was more then enough for me. Was certainly worth the experience though. I'm pretty sure she did not "break through." We lost complete control when we did.
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Eileenla
Author, "Sacred Economics"
01:46 AM on 12/13/2010
Good lord, allow the girl to be a teenager! She's behaving no differently than the vast majority of kids her age, learning what feels good and what doesn't, and figuring out how to set her own boundaries for behavior. It's called growing up.
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HannaSchmitz
I'm just saying
04:35 PM on 12/13/2010
I never did drugs as a teen.
09:08 PM on 12/12/2010
It's not a desperate cry for her parents to pay attention. Don't be dramatic. She's just being a teenager. If this were the neighbor kid, nobody would think anything of it. But since it's Miley Cyrus it's suddenly "newsworthy." I feel bad for the poor girl.
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GHARDY
09:55 AM on 12/13/2010
I heard alot of this when Lohan was going down, ah sucks just let her be a teenager, at what point does this teenage alibi give. This girl is 18 years old, she won't be a teenager much longer, soon she will be a sad hollywood has been child star, addicted to drugs, and it's not all her parents fault, she hold some resposibilty for her own action.
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ECBA88
12:43 PM on 12/13/2010
Well, she won't get addicted to salvia. It has no addictive properties as far as any researchers can tell, and nobody I've talked to or read here seems to have even secondhand knowledge of a single regular user, despite knowing several who tried it once or twice.

Yes, alcohol, cocaine, and other addictive substances frequently ruin lives, and every 18 year old needs a reality check concerning that--especially one who's as surrounded by that much money and partying. But it seems somewhat dramatic to assume that one brush with a short-acting, non-addictive substance places her squarely on the road to drug addiction and self destruction.

Do you know anybody who did some stupid stuff between the ages of 17 and 22 and ended up okay? Because that describes most of my friends to one degree or another...
02:44 PM on 12/13/2010
Smoking salvia (a legal drug) one time is way different than snorting coke, partying all night, chasing people around in cars, and not showing up for work the next day. There are plenty of teens who have smoked salvia (or pot for that matter) and not turned into raging drug addicts. I have total faith that Miley Cyrus will turn out fine, and I think it's really sad that you're so willing and able to write her off completely over one little incident.
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HannaSchmitz
I'm just saying
04:38 PM on 12/13/2010
Wrong, my friend took drugs when her parents got divorced. She told me she wanted attention from them. 30 yes later she is still an addict.
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scotia626
07:33 PM on 12/12/2010
count down to rehab 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....
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sunnybunny
04:52 PM on 12/12/2010
Between cell phone cameras and sensationalized journalistic drama - I feel sorry for anyone famous.
04:13 PM on 12/12/2010
I wish I had that bong right now.
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leftLibertarian
reefer+java=groovy
10:36 PM on 12/12/2010
I'm your first fan moogie! Enjoy your evening!
03:24 PM on 12/12/2010
"LSD like" is a bit of an overstatement. I've done both and comparing them is like saying drinking a beer is the same as drinking half a bottle of everclear. They are completely different in intenseness and length.

And it is definetly not as destructive as cocaine. I've seen peoples lives ruined from cocaine, never from salvia. So saying they are just as destructive is pretty ridiculous.
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ECBA88
12:57 PM on 12/13/2010
Thanks, I was thinking this, too. Gotta love people who don't understand drugs comparing drugs and using their arbitrary comparisons to demonstrate danger.

Salvia is like short-duration, high strength marijuana, but less pleasant. If there were a legal, relatively cheap version of LSD that would let you trip for 10 minutes, redose as desired, and then go about the rest of your day, I know several people who would be all over that. As it is, very few people I've met feel compelled to try it more than once, and nobody's even heard of anyone becoming a regular user.

I repeat my question, Ms. Fuller:

If you've ever had a drink (or, gasp, more than two or three drinks in a night!), did you do it because your "reality was so painful that you wanted to escape it?"

Consciousness altering, especially among teenagers whose brains have developed the desire to experiment but are still cementing their understanding of consequences, is not an automatic sign of something terrible going on, and any psychiatrist who was willing to make that diagnosis on a teen they'd never met, as Dr. Gilda Carle is, should have their license immediately revoked.
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actionsauce
03:04 PM on 12/12/2010
Wrong!
She is just having herself a hearty bowl of Weedies.