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Brendan DeMelle

Brendan DeMelle

Posted: December 9, 2009 06:28 PM

Climate Denier Calls U.S. Activists "Hitler Youth" at Americans For Prosperity Protest

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Fifty young U.S. clean energy activists stormed the stage today in Copenhagen during a live webcast organized by Americans for Prosperity and featuring climate denier Lord Christopher Monckton

When the youth group interrupted the webcast to deliver the message that real Americans want clean energy and a fair climate treaty, Monckton went ballistic, calling the students "crazed Hitler youth" and "Nazis."

The incident was not likely the intended result Americans for Prosperity hoped for as it launched the COP15 version of its "Hot Air Tour" (a.k.a. denial-a-palooza). AFP sent its team to Copenhagen "to make sure that our side of the story is told." But their live event today - complete with the student protest - was webcast to over forty climate denier rallies taking place in cities across the United States.

SustainUS reports that "a paltry audience of five conference attendees" attended the event to hear Monckton's (planned) speech, with the balance of the audience comprised of AFPers and the youth activists (who entered surreptitiously in small groups before taking the stage with their clean energy message).

The young activists, representing a number of youth action groups including SustainUS, the Sierra Student Coalition, the Cascade Climate Network, and other American youth NGOs, kicked off the protest by holding banners in front of the cameras reading "Climate Disaster Ahead" and "Clean Energy Now."

When AFP staffers ripped the banners out of their hands, the students began a five-minute chant of "Real Americans for Prosperity are Americans for Clean Energy," leaving AFP organizers scratching their heads about what to do.

Americans for Prosperity President Tim Phillips and his camera crew tried unsuccessfully to focus the lens more tightly on Monckton as he continued speaking, hoping to take back control of the event despite the protest in the background.  With several of the youth activists clustered around the podium, AFP kept the cameras rolling, continuing to stream the footage to the broader audience back in the U.S.

That's when Monckton let loose, saying live on camera: "You are listening now to the shouts in the background of the Hitler youth."

Monckton's tirade aside, the American youths had a clear message to deliver, highlighting the fact that "clean energy creates jobs." Rachel Barge, a 24-year-old entrepreneur from San Francisco, CA who was the first young person to raise her voice at the event, said afterwards that "These climate action delayers and science deniers are stealing bold, new economic opportunities from the American public."

That sentiment was echoed by Laura Comer, a 21-year-old from Strongsville, Ohio who also participated in the action. Comer said, "We're representing the majority of Americans on this, particularly young Americans. The real America wants clean energy - not more fossil fuel-funded lies about the science."

Update: For some reason, Americans for Prosperity enjoyed the stunt so much, they posted their own video of the protest. Watch AFP's own footage of the "radical protesters" (a.k.a. students with a non-violent, coherent message) as they "attack" AFP, (or so AFP says). Note that Monckton's tirade is not included in AFP's version.

WATCH:


UPDATE: Watch the youth activists of SustainUS attempt to engage Monckton in debate today about the "Hitler Youth" comment:


UPDATE: I interviewed Monckton briefly outside the Bella Center about his "Hitler youth" comment. Here's what he had to say (along with some fascinating delusions about coal and oil, which Monckton claims are as clean as wind and solar power):

 

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michael098762001
10:49 AM on 12/13/2009
GlobalPost columnist Michael Moran recalls his brush with the climate change thought police.http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/worldview/091208/climate-change-police?page=0,0 To Joe the blogger — Joe the Protector of Truth — the fact that anyone would dare to republish claims that run counter to his own view of the truth was the point. The fact that I totally disagreed with Inhofe, too, was irrelevant to him.
Objectivity didn’t seem to ring a bell, either. Nor the idea that, in the upper chamber of the American Congress, where the Bill of Rights was fashioned, linking to the transcript of a speech by a U.S. senator was not a crime. Another irrelevant fact: That this document was one of more than 40 such documents, and the only one that represented the views of “climate change deniers.”
So the day unfolded with one nasty email after another directed at my boss, at me, and at some of the world’s leading scholars of climate change — all of whom support the idea of taking serious steps to address it. I was shocked, naïf that I am, to learn later that day that “Joe” was Joe Romm, a former undersecretary of energy in the Clinton administration, and a guy with a Ph.D. from MIT (but apparently, no pedigree in either journalism or spelling).
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08:24 AM on 12/11/2009
Be sure to check the second video, guys. In a most gentlemanly way, Lord Monckton shows SustainUS what it's like to be teabagged by royalty.
09:42 PM on 12/10/2009
Youth activists such as SustainUS certainly have their place in international debate on climate change but they need to be wary of relying too much on blind advocacy. Storming stages won't make them be taken more seriously and they'd just be deemed hippy radicals without scientific basis. Especially after Climategate, conservatives are ready to add any fuel to the fire.
10:25 AM on 12/12/2009
Why all the FEAR? Students know more about climate change than most Americans. Even a 6th grader can explain it at a higher degree than the deniers.

Good for these students for protesting ignorance. The Queen should revoke his lordship's title for his ignorant characterization of the students. Ignorance is still ignorance no matter who's mouth it errupts from. Hitler? My how they idolize his name.
06:01 PM on 12/10/2009
We need a new, updated version of the classic movie, Inherit the Wind, with Spencer Tracy as Clarence Darrow, defending the right of a young Tennessee teacher to teach evolution in his biology class. The newer version could easily substitute climate change in place of evolution. My only question: who would play the modern version of his antagonistic bible thumping opponent? Let me guess. The great scholar Imhoff?
04:07 AM on 12/12/2009
Would they include this in the curriculum?

http://joannenova.com.au/global-warming/ice-core-graph/
04:21 PM on 12/10/2009
According to Lord Christopher Monckton (and many of the commentators) apparently staging a peaceful protest = being a Hitler youth. That logic is about as sound and valid as the "science" behind Monckton's anti-global warming drivel.

Lord Christopher Monckton is a mouthpiece for the fossil fuel industry, and he along with his climate denier cohorts are trying to hammer the last nail in the coffin of today's youth. These protesters have every right to peacefully interrupt events like Monckton's podcast to tell the truth about what American's want their future to be.

I hope they do it again and again and again and again until people like Monckton are finally deemed irrelevant for being the destructive, selfish, immoral people they are.
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annecros
06:11 PM on 12/10/2009
Storming the stage and shouting down a speaker who has booked the room is not peaceful.

It is thuggery, and a thuggish attempt at silencing dissent.

Your assertion that Monckton be harassed beyond reason, doesn't seem very liberal of you. What happened to the party of tolerance?

We ALL have to live on the globe together.
03:54 PM on 12/11/2009
Monckton does not represent legitimate dissent and he has shown his unwillingness to engage the youth activits in meaningful conversation.

If we are to live on this globe together we have to first SAVE it, which means getting the truth out. These youth activists are justifiably passionate because they understand the science behind global warming and know that if we stand by and do nothing their futures will be filled with incomprehensible human suffering and destruction.

The protesters have science backing up their position. Monckton has unfounded opinion (and a little bit of crazy). Just watch DeMelle's follow-up conversation with him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21SCR2yyETk

And Monckon's post-protest conversation with the youth activists:

http://www.desmogblog.com/christopher-monckton-copenhagen-i-will-not-shake-hand-hitler-youth
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2warvet
I have nitrogen narcosis, what's your excuse?
03:39 PM on 12/10/2009
Because clean energy creates jobs........Just ask Spain. For every green job created it lost 2 other jobs. That must be that new math they teach in school. 1 is greater than 2, if you want it to be.
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Quinny
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02:14 PM on 12/10/2009
If the "clean activists" are so sure in their arguments, why didn't they try to
DEBATE Mr. Mockton while they had the chance? You know, like the group
We Are Change does when they go to Al Gore events. Shouting people
down convinces me of NOTHING!
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Brendan DeMelle
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04:09 PM on 12/10/2009
Quinny, check out the update at the bottom of my post featuring SustainUS youth attempting to engage Monckton in debate today. Note the part at the end when he runs away rather than continue to talk to the youth, who press him for explanations about his "Hitler youth" comment.
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michael098762001
04:38 PM on 12/10/2009
As a student radical back in the 80's at UCSC , I have to chuckle a bit at Brendan's disingenuous denial of the radical ideology and tactics of the kids that disrupted that AFP event. Same as the International Socialist Organization that stormed the stage at columbia university a few yrs. ago to disrupt a speech by gilcrest of the minutemen . Right of the playbook of Marcusean radicals of the 60's who in the self rightiousness routinely shouted down liberals and conservatives.
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Quinny
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03:56 AM on 12/11/2009
Brendan,
I checked out the vid. Thank you. I am sure Mr. Monckton regrets using the
phrase "Hitler Youth", as well he should. But what I saw in the vid only convinces
me that these "clean activists" have been completely indoctrinated into believing
that human activities are the one and only source of "climate change".
When Mr. Mocnkton quotes from one of the leaked emails stating that
"there has been a decline" in Earths average temperature "and we cannot
explain it, and it is a travesty that we can't explain it", they don't respond to the
quote and it implications. They just ignore it and return to questioning
him about his "Hitler Youth" comment. Their hearts are in the right place
and I agree 1000% percent in what they are trying to accomplish, but
you have to be careful not to let your idealism get in the way of the facts.
All the best..Quinny
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michael098762001
04:17 PM on 12/10/2009
I saw a we are change activist at a denver event for mccain last yr. ask a cery good question about the patriot act, who didn't engage in the stupdly juvenile tactic of these ecoradicals of trying to shout down mccain...now if only we are change, had a message the content of which wasn't 9-11 trutherism
12:49 PM on 12/10/2009
You know the only good thing that came out of the Iraq war is that it gave conservatives pause for thought about the consequences of relying on fossil fuels. Otherwise, it's all drill baby drill!

Climate denial is entirely political. There is little point arguing with a conservative about climate change because no amount of evidence would ever be sufficient. It matters little independent studies in every industrialized country in the world have all reached the same conclusion. Moreover, this in itself is "proof" for the conservative of a global conspiracy. Paranoia is inherent in conservative ideology, if not the driving force.

The problem we have in America is that Climate Change by its nature demands a response from the country as a whole. That means government intervention. And that is something no conservative will believe in, no matter the reality is.
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alice09
12:36 PM on 12/10/2009
Why does the Nazi charge vehemently come up whenever the right's ideas are questioned? Is it projection? Who are the real fascists?
12:29 PM on 12/10/2009
I would not term Lord Monckton as a climare denier, he disputes the cause. There are two entirely different concepts. No one in their right mind would deny climate change. But, is it human caused? We've only seen the tip of the iceberg of fudged science. There are plenty of reputable scientists at Harvard and MIT (etc.) who are not afraid of speaking out against anthropogenic global warming. Watch the UK documentary, "The Great Global Warming Swindle". Do we really want to see 4% of the US GDP go to a global front? It would bankrupt the US, as well as other western countries. As to the Hitler youth: that's what I'd call fanatics. If the climate changes are not human caused, we are letting ourselves for the largest looting in human history. Back to the caves...
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michael098762001
12:26 PM on 12/10/2009
Storming the stage and shouting down speakers was a common tactic of the most radical factions of the sds in the late 60's and is still used by ultra-leftists who do not direct their bile just at rightists but, also at social democrats and left-liberals who are not as r-r-r-revolutionary as they are.
12:18 PM on 12/10/2009
That*s what the hitler youth used to do. They used to bust in to minority opposition party*s meetings and break them up.
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michael098762001
04:41 PM on 12/10/2009
KPD communists in that era before Hitler came in and smashed the entire Left, would also assault Socialists at the meetings and rallies of the SPD.
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12:07 PM on 12/10/2009
The person who posted the video even thinks the activists are tools. Exactly, 'stay classy' useful idiots of tomorrow.
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annecros
12:20 PM on 12/10/2009
Agreed and fanned.

Does a tool know that it is a tool? Are tools self aware?
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12:36 PM on 12/10/2009
No, they only know when to tune into "Tool Time", a TV show within a TV show.
12:02 PM on 12/10/2009
poor kids are totally brainwashed.
11:35 AM on 12/10/2009
Why wont these Dinosaurs just go and die peacefully somewhere. They are so unaware of the crisis that has already started to ensue. The shift away from dirty, ARTIFICIALLY cheap, finite energy will be better in the long run both from an environmental and an economic standpoint.

Deniers all have their heads in the sand, and the truth about putting ones' head into the sand like they do is that they don't have a clue what is really happening in the rest of the world, and therefore no factual basis to stand on. This explains the use of arbitrary terms like Hitler youth to describe people trying to effect change from their old ways.