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Brent Sasley

Brent Sasley

Posted: January 18, 2011 12:17 PM

It is abundantly clear to virtually everyone that the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza must end. Even right-wingers in Israel acknowledge this, arguing not for their continuation at any cost but for the right conditions to be present first. Israeli leaders and Jewish leaders around the world have stated publicly and privately that the occupation, if it remains in place, will damage Israel irrevocably through a waste of resources and complete corrosion of its moral nature.

But there is a core truth that the myriad of recommendations and advice coming from across the political spectrum have long been unwilling to recognize, let alone accept. And that is that the occupation cannot simply "end." Israel cannot just get up and walk out of the West Bank, nor can it just remove its soldiers and ships from Gaza's borders. Yet this is precisely what most observers assume should and will happen. It is misguided, and ignores the realities of life for both Israelis and Palestinians. Yes, things are bad in the West Bank and Gaza, but the potential for worsening conditions for everyone should not be ignored.

On the Israeli side, guarantees of security remain paramount. Israelis see that they withdrew from Lebanon and from Gaza, and instead of leading to peace, it led to more violence: Hezbollah and Hamas (and other militant groups) fired rockets and led cross-border attacks, leading to two Israeli invasions that cost lives and money and highlighted its weaknesses in fighting a non-conventional army.

The removal of tens of thousands of settlers, or more, will have an enormous impact on Israel. It will take considerable resources to move them, and to re-settle them within Israel. There are also economic issues: After being shut out of the Israeli economy in the 1990s, Palestinian labor is once again becoming increasingly important to Israeli firms.

On the Palestinian side, economic ties with Israel are important sectors of at least the West Bank economy (Gaza having been cut off because of the siege and of Hamas's tactics). In particular, joint Israeli-Palestinian ventures include cooperation in olive oil production, industrial zones, tourism, Jerusalem stone, and trade to third countries. Although in small numbers at the moment, Palestinians have in recent years begun working in Israel's high-tech industry. These associations are important for Palestinians not only because of income generated, but because the Palestinian economy absorbs Israeli expertise, knowledge, and technology. As well, Palestinian labor is essential for the building of settlements themselves. Seemingly counterproductive, the revenue is necessary for Palestinian families. The sudden disappearance of Israel, without careful, detailed plans for maintaining or replacing these economic connections, will weaken the Palestinian economy and the growth it has experienced in the last few years.

(There are also darker ties to be noted: a thriving black market in stolen cars is dependent on joint efforts by Israeli and Palestinian criminals.)

Finally, it's not totally clear that the Arab states would be fully satisfied with an end to the occupation. The Arab regimes derive considerable domestic legitimacy from the conflict, using it as a tool to deflect both internal concerns about conditions within their states. Arab rulers often focus their states' attention on an external enemy or foreign policy issue and use it as a policy instrument to conduct domestic politics. How they would replace the loss of the conflict should also be of at least secondary concern.

Don't mistake this argument for a contentment with the status quo: There is already too much hyperbole and shrillness in the discussions on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which in turn undermines realistic and workable strategies for ending the occupation and the conflict.

But what this does mean is that meticulous planning must be done at many levels, involving many groups. There is no place for playing ideological, political, ethnic, or religious preferences: if most Israelis and Palestinians are not ultimately satisfied, no-one will be allowed to live in peace. The concerns of both sides -- and of the multiple groups within both -- must be addressed.

It is, in this context, unhelpful to speak of immediate change, to expect the United States to impose a peace, or to demand that Israel end the occupation. None of these can succeed without the groundwork being laid first. We must adjust our expectations of resolving the conflict in order to increase the chances of such success.

 
 
 
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01:59 AM on 01/22/2011
"Hezbollah and Hamas (and other militant groups) fired rockets and led cross-border attacks, leading to two Israeli invasions that cost lives...... "

Prior to the 2006 Lebanon War, Hezbollah strictly held to its policy of firing rockets in retaliation only. Israel's reserves were called up three months before the "cross border" incident - if it was indeed one. According to the Lebanese police force, the two soldiers were captured in Lebanese territory, in Aïta Al-Chaab, well inside Lebanon.

"In the six years since Israel withdrew, there have been frequent border incidents between Hezbollah and the Israeli army, and ceasefire violations of the type committed now by Hezbollah have occurred before, initiated by either side, and more frequently by Israel. None of the previous incidents resulted in Katyusha shelling of the north of Israel, which has enjoyed full calm since Israel's withdrawal."
- Tanya Reinhart.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shqiperia/message/14600?var=1

After the Israeli inquiry, Judge Winograd ruled that Israel embarked on " a prolonged war that it initiated ".

Prior to "Cast Lead", Hamas held a five month long truce despite Israel's refusal to open the crossings, a condition of the truce. After Israel entered Gaza and killed 6 Palestinians, Hamas could no longer enforce the cease-fire.
Cast Lead was being planned as Israel was negotiating the truce.

I cannot agree that Israel was "lead"as suggested.
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11:00 AM on 01/20/2011
"Welcome to Gaza, which is supposed to form part of the Palestinian Authority, where Hamas was democratically elected as the political entity responsible for governing the territory. Israel has imposed a disastrous blockade, stretching the humanitarian fabric to the limit, and after the horrific damage caused by the offensive of 2008/9, continues to refuse to allow deliveries of iron and concrete to take place, because they are a threat to national security.

What are the Palestinians supposed to do? Throw concrete at the tanks which bulldoze their homes, which take away their lands to build colonies for Israelis on stolen territory?

Despite the fact that Israel has relaxed its inhumane blockade against the people of Gaza, materials necessary for construction, such as iron and concrete, are still being refused entry (illegally) into Gaza, a territory where there is a rate of 80% dependency, where 90% of the water supply is not potable, from where 80 million cubic litres of untreated sewage pours into the Mediterranean, daily. This is an ecological disaster."

http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/03-12-2010/116054-gaza_israel-0/
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JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
02:11 PM on 01/21/2011
Sounds like shooting all those missiles into Israel has been disastrous for the Gazans. Perhoas Hamas ought to consider a peace agreement with Israel.
05:34 PM on 01/21/2011
I doubt Hamas will consider a peace agreement with Israel as worth the paper it is written on after the last one.
"The Hamas movement has accepted the Egyptian initiative for a lull and is ready to launch it this week, Palestinian sources told the al-Arabiya network on Sunday.
If all agreements are approved, the Rafah crossing will reopen this Thursday, and Hamas and Israel will declare a one-year truce brokered by Egypt.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3664941,00.html

Hamas held the truce for 5 months. Israel did not open Rafah. Hamas ended the truce after Israel entered the strip and killed six Palestinians.
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Greg Mirsky
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04:13 AM on 01/20/2011
Sober look ant the situation and well argumented article. The fact is that those who don't make Intifada into business and more interested in long-term perspective for Arabs in Palestine would agree with Author's point of view. Creating vacuum would not solve the problem but only worsen the situation as radical elements, on both sides, will fill open space. Nation building is instantaneous process, nation can not be pronounced it has to build itself.
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MelissaGoldman
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12:19 PM on 01/19/2011
I think it's highly unlikely we'll ever see large amounts of Jews forcibly removed from Judea and Samaria, not after what's happened in gaza, no way.
But I'm curious how Mr. Sasley envisions the process of this happening as I'm open to other ideas.
As for it being unfair or whatever, this is the reality that arabs manifested for themselves after decades of attacking Israel both physically and verbally, blaming every arab problem from famine to crop viruses to shark attacks on Israel. I think it's actually a very good lesson on reaping what we've sown and creating an implacable foe where one previously didn't exist.
Aesop could really write a bestseller on this allegory, too bad he's not here to see it....
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12:33 PM on 01/20/2011
I don't think you're being realistic, Melissa. The settlements in the West Bank and the settlement movement in general is not that popular in Israel. Israelis still support a two state solution with partial settlement dismantling if it means the creation of a Palestinian state and peace. The bigger fight will be the division of east Jerusalem.
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01:21 PM on 01/20/2011
Since you NEVER capitalize Arabs or Gaza, because of, your hatred is on display for everyone to see.
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MJ Rosenberg
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09:45 AM on 01/19/2011
Not so quickly! 43 years!
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JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
10:26 AM on 01/19/2011
MJ, what was the Arab position re the state of Israel 43 years ago? How did that contribute or detract from the creation of a situation in which the occupation could be safely ended?
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TheLonelyGod
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04:30 PM on 01/19/2011
Don't expect an answer.
04:34 AM on 01/20/2011
I think they quite rightly saw it as an illegitimate colonial settler state that was dangerously expansionist.
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TheLonelyGod
The oncoming storm
04:31 PM on 01/19/2011
43 years ago was the Khartoom Resolution.
12:19 AM on 01/19/2011
It is surely instructive to consider the words of the late Martin Buber, revered Jewish philosopher, professor of Sociology and Philosophy at the Hebrew University and editor of the weekly Die Welt, the central organ of the Zionist movement:

"Only an international revolution can have the power to heal our people of their murd'rous sickness of causeless hatr d (for the Arabs). It is bound to bring complete ruin on us. Only then will the old and young in our land realize how great was our responsibility to those miserable Arab refugees in whose towns we have settled Jews who were brought from afar; whose homes we have inherited, whose fields we now sow and harvest; the fruits of whose gardens, orchards and vineyards we gather; and in whose cities that we robbed, we put up houses of education, charity, and prayer while we babble and rave about being the “people of the book” and the “light unto the nations” "

- (1961 article in the Hebrew magazine Ner).
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JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
10:27 AM on 01/19/2011
Would it be helpful if I posted a few comments from Arab leaders expressing and/or describing Arab hatred for Jews, or would you feel that somehow that would be counterproductive?
12:03 PM on 01/19/2011
I have no doubt that you will continue to post whatever you perceive supports your contentions just as I do. What would be of much interest to me would be a post explaining why your version of the History is so much at odds with that of Martin Buber who was editor of the Zionist weekly at the time and place the events took place.
01:05 AM on 01/20/2011
I've been trying to track down this quote, and I'm now convinced it was made up. In any case, 60+ years of invasions, raids, bombs, murder and hatred of Israel have sort of poisoned the environment.
10:54 AM on 01/20/2011
Have we a new recruit or a returnee?
08:48 PM on 01/18/2011
No nation on earth is "guaranteed security." Get a grip!
12:45 AM on 01/19/2011
That is true. That is why Nations guaranty their own security. Which is what the Israelis have been doing, and will continue to do.
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courtb
12:36 PM on 01/20/2011
The role of the state is to guarantee the security of their people. Israel has been doing this to the best of the perceived ability. Unfortunately, this has not worked out so well for the Palestinian people.

No nation is guaranteed security, but a treaty would go a long way alleviating the security threats to Israelis and Palestinians.
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wom122
Primum non nocere
06:26 PM on 01/18/2011
"On the Israeli side, guarantees of security remain paramount".

I'm not sure that there anything on earth (or in heaven) that would make the Israeli's secure. How about discussing Arab security for a change?
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09:06 PM on 01/18/2011
F&F!!! That needs to be said. Israel always cries security while it is the one occupying the West Bank and engaging in military rampages in Gaza and Lebanon. It is definitely the Arabs who need the security guarantees.
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JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
10:28 AM on 01/19/2011
So you missed the bits about the wars in 48, 67 etc.?
10:54 AM on 01/20/2011
As Robert Fisk has asked, Why is the word security always attached to Israel?
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
07:32 PM on 01/19/2011
OK. Let's discuss it.
What are their concerns?
What could Israel do to make them feel more secure?

For all the complaints about israel's treatment of palestinians, I can't see how this affects the security of saudi arabia or kuwait, or even jordan and egypt.
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11:34 AM on 01/20/2011
Israel is currently occupying, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine.

Israel has threatened Iran with multiple nuclear strikes.

Israel has used WMDs on Lebanese and Palestinian civilians.

Israel has started more wars in the Middle East than the Mongol Hordes.

Israel = #1 destabalizing force and war monger in the Middle East, the facts speak for themsevles.
06:24 PM on 01/18/2011
would it not be helpful to announce that change was coming? details could be worked out to facillitate a smooth transition in a matter of ____months.. this would encourage the entire world to come to the aid of both the Israeli and Palestinian people. begin loosening the gorgon's knot that strangles this part of the world.
10:56 AM on 01/20/2011
Yes, but it would be a lie, the cranes and the bulldozers are there for all to see.
05:51 PM on 01/18/2011
where is fairway "israel is really stolen palestine" hill? i feel like the conversation is missing without her words of repetitive wisdom.
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courtb
08:49 PM on 01/18/2011
That made me laugh. She's busy spamming higher up articles about the Middle East...give her time to work her way down
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
04:53 PM on 01/18/2011
Since there seems to be some discussion of the withdrawal from Lebanon, this is sort of on topic:

Maybe one of the Israelis on here can answer a question for me. Occasionally I see a bumper sticker that says "Ha'am eem Ha'Golan" which I always took to mean "The nation with the Golan" (In other words, sort or rubbing it in the Syrians face that israel captured that land.)
But then I read somewhere that it is actually saying "The nation is with the Golan", meaning that it just shows support for the people living in the Golan.
What is that phrase really trying to convey?
06:37 PM on 01/18/2011
I'm not an Israeli, and don't speak Hebrew. However the IDF has a military unit that is based in the north called the Golani Brigade.

Having bumper stickers related to a military unit could be an explanation.
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Brent Sasley
07:16 PM on 01/18/2011
@ Json: Your second guess is correct: it does mean the nation is with the Golan, i.e., those sporting such stickers consider the Golan as Israel as Tel Aviv and that it should not be "given away."
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01:40 PM on 01/20/2011
"The Golan Regional Council (Hebrew: מועצה אזורית גולן‎, Arabic: مجلس الجولان الإقليمي‎) is the regional council consolidating almost all Jewish Israeli settlements located on the Golan Heights, part of the Israeli-occupied territories. It is made up of 19 moshavim and 10 kibbutzim, and other villages. While the headquarters are located in the town of Katzrin, that town is itself an independent local council.

The current Head of Council is Eli Malka.

The Golan Heights were captured by Israel from Syria in the Six-Day War of 1967. They are internationally recognized as Syrian territory occupied by Israel, although Israel asserts it has a right to retain the area."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Regional_Council

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights#Towns.2C_villages_and_settlements
04:16 PM on 01/18/2011
Stopping settlement building would have been a good start to this process. Both for Israel and the Palestinians. However oddly, the settlements have increased since the Oslo agreement(15 years ago!?). Could it be that one side is not at all committed to creation of a Palestinian state?
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JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
10:47 AM on 01/19/2011
Could be. After all, for all of the decades leading up to the Abbas admin., a Palestinian state side-by-side with Israel was flatly rejected by Palestinian policy. That said, it seems Messrs. Abbas and Fayyad seem genuinely committed and in any event, settlements have been abandoned or moved before for the sake of peace, see, e.g., Yamit (Sinai) and Gush Katif (Gaza).
03:44 PM on 01/18/2011
"But there is a core truth that the myriad of recommendations and advice coming from across the political spectrum have long been unwilling to recognize, let alone accept. And that is that the occupation cannot simply "end." Israel cannot just get up and walk out of the West Bank"

They can't just get up and leave the West Bank but it ok if they destroy existing homes of Palestinians and forced they to just get up and leave RIGHT!
03:40 PM on 01/18/2011
Israel concerned Russia will recognize Palestinian state
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-concerned-russia-will-recognize-palestinian-state-1.337748

More than 100 nations around the world have recognized the state of Palestine
http://www.morungexpress.com/analysis/60333.html
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nypoet22
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05:17 PM on 01/18/2011
now hopefully that state will be established responsibly, without bloodshed.
03:19 PM on 01/18/2011
The root cause of this conflict is the dispossession by Israel of around a million native inhabitants.
Until Israel acts in accord with the responsibilities it pledged to the United Nations upon its admission to that body and are required of it under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, there will be no resolution, occupation or no occupation.
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03:23 PM on 01/18/2011
"The root cause of this conflict is the dispossess­ion by Israel of around a million native inhabitant­s."

Nothing in this sentence is true.
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
04:32 PM on 01/18/2011
Prove it!!
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Soma99
09:29 PM on 01/18/2011
Time magazine circa '52:

“The word 'American' no longer has a good sound in that part of the world [the Middle East]. To catch the Jewish vote in the U.S., President Truman in 1946 demanded that the British admit 100,000 Jewish refugees to Palestine, in violation of British promises to the Arabs. Since then, the Arab nations surrounding Israel have regarded that state as a U.S. creation, and the U.S., therefore, as an enemy. The Israeli-Arab war created nearly a million Arab refugees, who have been huddled for three years in wretched camps. These refugees, for whom neither the U.S. nor Israel will take the slightest responsibility, keep alive the hatred of U.S. perfidy.
“No enmity for the Arabs, no selfish national design motivated the clumsy U.S. support of Israel. The American crime was not to help the Jews, but to help them at the expense of the Arabs. Today, the Arab world fears and expects a further Israeli expansion. The Arabs are well aware that Alben Barkley, Vice President of the U.S., tours his country making speeches for the half-billion-dollar Israeli bond issue, the largest ever offered to the U.S. public. Nobody, they note bitterly, is raising that kind of money for them.”
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
04:03 PM on 01/18/2011
Well and truly stated.
10:56 PM on 01/18/2011
Approximately half of the 7-800,000 refugees were expelled before May 15 1948.