Brett Ashley McKenzie

Brett Ashley McKenzie

Posted: October 4, 2008 01:05 PM

The "Gotcha Journalist": An Exclusive Interview with Michael Rovito

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A sausage and provolone sandwich is responsible for turning a 28 year-old graduate student from Pennsylvania's coal region into a "gotcha journalist" at the center of the most important election in our nation's history. On Saturday, September 27, Michael Rovito, a PhD candidate in Public Health at Temple University, encountered Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin in Tony Luke's in Philadelphia.

"How about the Pakistan situation?" he asked the Alaskan governor, in a moment captured on camera by the local CBS affiliate. "...Do we cross border, like from Afghanistan to Pakistan, you think?"

"If that's what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in, absolutely, we should," Palin responded, in direct contradiction to the position fervently advocated by her running mate John McCain in the previous night's debate, and directly in line with the position held by opponent Barack Obama.

On Monday morning, both McCain and Palin appeared jointly in an interview with Katie Couric, attributing Palin's gaffe to "gotcha journalism" on the part of Rovito. Now, Rovito responds to that characterization.

BAM: Why do you think John McCain feels that what is said to a "young gentleman, a voter," is less important than what is said to a member of the media?

MR: I do not have any insight as to whether or not John McCain views questions from voters as more or less important than those of members of the media. However, having been called a "gotcha journalist" gives me new insights into the importance of a free press. In addition, as an informed tax-paying voter, I do think that it is reasonable for me to direct questions to a politician at a public campaign event. And, I think it is reasonable to expect that questions asked of voters are answered by our elected officials and candidates for public office, particularly if the public office is President or Vice President of the United States.

I am a registered Democrat, pursuing my graduate education as a means of sharing in the American Dream that has been so illusive for myself and others who come from Pennsylvania's Coal Region. My mom and dad were with me when I questioned Sarah Palin, and part of the reason they did not want me to engage her was because of their own backgrounds as an auto-parts salesman and secretary.

Like a lot of students who come from my working class background, I worked and borrowed my way through college and graduate school and face a mountain of loans that will have to be repaid in the future. So, I find it insulting, not only to me, but also to the tenets of American democracy and the everyday Joe's and Jane's out there wanting to be heard and be part of the system that questioning a politician in a public forum is somehow deserving of a rebuke by the politician being questioned.

BAM: When you encountered Sarah Palin, were you really trying to "get" her? What were you hoping to learn?

MR: It was a total coincidence that I ran into Sarah Palin. I was at the homecoming game at Eagles Stadium (Go Birds!) with my family. After the game, we went to get a bite to eat at Tony Luke's (we think it has the best sausage and provolone sandwich in the country, by the way). We, along with the restaurant crowd that had gathered after the game, were stunned to see a motorcade pulling in front of the restaurant. Palin stepped out and began posing for photographs and signing autographs with voters.

One reason I thought about asking her a question was because I became increasingly surprised, as time went by, that no one spoke with her about the issues of this election season. I was equally surprised that she did not ask people about their concerns and troubles. I thought to myself that I would regret passing up the opportunity to at least ask a question about her views. I really did not have any idea if she would be willing to enter into a conversation or answer questions. But I was hoping to learn what she thought about why the U.S. is failing in the tribal regions of Pakistan and Afghanistan in our War on Terror. I wanted to get some idea what the McCain-Palin administration would do to end this violence and address the threat of terrorism.

I wasn't trying to get her to agree or disagree with anything. My question was open-ended, hoping for either a descriptive answer or give-and-take about the issue. I would have asked the same question of Obama, Joe Biden, McCain, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader, any one of the candidates.

BAM: How do you feel the opinions of younger voters are perceived by both campaigns?

MR: The notion that young scholars, workers, and activists -- the next generation of tax-paying voters -- are sometimes seen as disaffected and alienated from politics is insulting. One of the big differences between the Obama and McCain campaigns is their acknowledgment of the importance of young voters. Obama's campaign has been strategic about involving the youth vote; McCain has seemed less open. I think it is a fundamental miscalculation on the part of the McCain campaign to assume that young voters are not strong stakeholders in this election.

Our future outlook has been severely compromised because of the policies of the past eight years. We are keenly aware of the financial burdens we will face as our democracy is rebuilt in the next administration. In the future, our labor will drive the American economy. We will pay the taxes. We have already been fighting the current wars. Most importantly, we vote.

BAM: How does McCain's attitude toward your question change your opinion of him?

MR: I felt that McCain and Palin's response to questions about "gotcha journalism" posed by Katie Couric earlier this week questioned the integrity of the field of journalism, and along with it the tenets of free speech in American democracy. I was labeled a "gotcha journalist" simply for asking a question of an elected official; and "gotcha journalism" was meant to be derogatory. The inherent power structure enables him to define me any way he wants, but almost impossible for me to respond.

I am glad that members of the press and bloggers have been interested in this story, but from my position within this story, it is easy to see why many voters were quiet at Tony Luke's last weekend. A lot of them are older than I am, and maybe wiser to the ways of the political world in the sense that they understand both sides to try and get my side of the story out and understood. However, it is a daunting battle to be fought. My opinion of Senator McCain has indeed gotten worse. I still respect him for his service to this country, but I do not respect him on his opinions of citizens holding him accountable.

BAM: Tina Fey's portrayal of Sarah Palin on Saturday Night Live has become something of a legend. Were "Saturday Night Live" to parody your questioning of Sarah Palin, who would play you?

MR: Andy Samberg, of course! He's great.

A sausage and provolone sandwich is responsible for turning a 28 year-old graduate student from Pennsylvania's coal region into a "gotcha journalist" at the center of the most important election in ou...
A sausage and provolone sandwich is responsible for turning a 28 year-old graduate student from Pennsylvania's coal region into a "gotcha journalist" at the center of the most important election in ou...
 
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I know your parents are proud of you Michael--you give me HOPE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 10/05/2008

Brett, did you go to college at UMBC?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 10/05/2008
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NC Independent,

I am proud to say that I did indeed go to UMBC, and loved every minute of it! Why do you ask?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 10/05/2008

Note: Palin/McCain speak glowingly about Joe-Six-Pack to crowds of adoring conservatives and how they represent them, wild cheers. But when it comes to real life situation they publicly criticize and demonize those they purport to support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 10/05/2008

"gee, they say one thing to their face and then turn around when those same people can't hear them and say they cling to their guns and religion". Where have we heard this scenario before? What a couple of hypocrites. And that is the kindest word I can apply to them

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 10/05/2008

This entire story is amazingly shocking. Shocking in the sense that McCain and Palin are blatantly insulting Joe and Jane Six-Pack.

Good, job, Michael!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 10/04/2008

So here's what I take away from Sarah Palin: She's here for Joe and Jane Six-pack, as long as she never has to actually answer to them or interact with them. We're just here to pay taxes that will eventually help to pay her salary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 10/04/2008

Sarah is only in this for herself. i don't think that she gives a hoot about Joe and Jane Six-Pack...or anyone else!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 10/04/2008

Another mistake by the McCain campaign. If they're so scared senseless of her facing a question or two, they should have left her in the car while they got their sandwich.

By the way, I love how he worked in the plug for Tony Luke's. This kid won't have to pay for another sausage and provolone sandwich in his life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 10/04/2008
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What a smart guy! I really wish more of us had the guts that this 28 year old grad student has. Not only did he call out a question, a good one at that, he has spoken out about it now in an intellectual fashion. This is what our country needs... more open discussion. More civil dialogue.

The idea that the "main stream media filters the message" is McCain's desperate attempt to hide from the voters he wants to elect him. And this exchange between Palin and Michael illustrates once again she does not know what she's talking about. (Scary, eh?)

THANK YOU MICHAEL FOR YOUR HONESTY, and true Patriotic spirit!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 10/04/2008

Agree with you entirely! Our country desperately needs "more open discussion. . .more civil dialogue. But there's no accident that Republican leadership-- whether in the executive branch or the Congress-- has led to polarization of the American people; their's is a consistent tactic of creating division. It's based on a whole complex of preferences for the simple (even if wrong!) over the complicated, for action over reasoned reflection, for seeing choices as either/or and black/white. That mindset leads almost inexorably to a divisive us-vs.-them worldview, to a contempt for dialogue with anyone of different persuasion, culture or race, and to an almost reflex resort to wars instead of diplomacy. As such, all their talk about "expanding democracy in the world" is a crock, because they don't respect opinions which diverge from theirs. And their idea of the democratic process, even in the US, is limited to having the public approve (at election times) condidates chosen by special interests and party handlers. Only "dittoheads" seem to be welcome in that scenario; certainly not some random member of the public blurting out questions for which the answer script has not been written and rehearsed. Unfair! Democratic sabotage!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 10/05/2008
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