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Tea Party Quicksand in the GOP Presidential Landscape

Posted: 05/19/11 07:41 PM ET

When Newt Gingrich is too moderate for the Republican Party, the Tea Party has turned the political landscape into quicksand for GOP presidential aspirants.

Gingrich, appearing on NBC's Meet the Press, was asked whether Republicans should buck polls that show their Medicare voucher system is D.O.A. His reply put the GOP spin-o-sphere into complete apoplexy:

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MR. GREGORY: What about entitlements? The Medicare trust fund, in stories that have come out over the weekend, is now going to be depleted by 2024, five years earlier than predicted. Do you think that Republicans ought to buck the public opposition and really move forward to completely change Medicare, turn it into a voucher program where you give seniors...


REP. GINGRICH: Right.

MR. GREGORY: ... some premium support and -- so that they can go out and buy private insurance?

REP. GINGRICH: I don't think right-wing social engineering is any more desirable than left-wing social engineering. I don't think imposing radical change from the right or the left is a very good way for a free society to operate. I think we need a national conversation to get to a better Medicare system with more choices for seniors. But there are specific things you can do. At the Center for Health Transformation, which I helped found, we published a book called Stop Paying the Crooks. We thought that was a clear enough, simple enough idea, even for Washington. We -- between Medicare and Medicaid, we pay between $70 billion and $120 billion a year to crooks. And IBM has agreed to help solve it, American Express has agreed to help solve it, Visa's agreed to help solve it. You can't get anybody in this town to look at it. That's, that's almost $1 trillion over a decade. So there are things you can do to improve Medicare.

MR. GREGORY: But not what Paul Ryan is suggesting, which is completely changing Medicare.

REP. GINGRICH: I, I think that, I think, I think that that is too big a jump. I think what you want to have is a system where people voluntarily migrate to better outcomes, better solutions, better options, not one where you suddenly impose upon the -- I don't want to -- I'm against Obamacare, which is imposing radical change, and I would be against a conservative imposing radical change.

The reaction from reactionary congressman Paul Ryan was short and swift. He told radio reactionary Laura Ingraham on her radio show:

"With allies like that, who needs the left?"

The dim doyens of the right wing were quick to dismiss or respond.

Charles Krauthammer said "He's done," in an interview on Fox News that the DailyCaller.com called out.

"I am not going to justify this. I'm not going to explain this," talk radio host Rush Limbaugh clamored. "The attack on Paul Ryan. The support for an individual mandate in health care? Folks, don't ask me to explain this. There is no explanation."

Except there is a simple one, "folks:" Gingrich, a seasoned veteran of video that comes back to haunt a candidate, was trying to position himself, as former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney had attempted, just 48 hours earlier, to stake out positions that are defensible in a general election.

The midterms of 2010 caused a kind of euphoric distortion curve in the GOP, a "bubble" not unlike the ones experienced by investors in the stock market. The far right had its 15 minutes of fame for this decade in Congress. Their ideas are too radical, and the public reaction by the mainstream, largely independent voters to them has been chilly at best. The rhetoric and the agenda hyperinflated. The pendulum has been swinging back to the center since November 2010. The GOP and the Tea Party find themselves increasingly on the outs in polls testing the sentiment regarding their big plans to "fix" government.

One thing which should not escape both parties is the rising number of Independents. In many states, a large portion of the electorate has disenfranchised itself from the primary process. They can vote for non-partisan offices and amendments, but that is it.

If faux news puerile parody-patriot pundits insist, along with the Tea Party tykes in Congress, to say 'my way or the highway,' it looks like voters are going to get their kicks on Route 66.

Gingrich and Romney are taking the heat for being pragmatic and understanding the bigger picture. Even if they don't believe everything coming out of their mouths, which has never been a problem for either candidate, they need to be on the record saying things that, in a general election, can diffuse criticism of their policies or concerns about their personal and social views.

Which is not to say that Newt has gone soft. He used racist-tinged commentary to try to tie Mr. Obama to food-stamps in a speech in Georgia. He defended it on the same Meet the Press last Sunday, when Gregory called him out on it by trying to tie Obama and food stamps to the "the same destructive political model that destroyed the city of Detroit." So he used more racist code for "black" and "poor" to fend off questions about racism.

Rudy Giuliani, another mainstream Republican, takes a swipe at Romney, whom he tells the Huffington Post has "got big baggage."

"I mean, RomneyCare, particularly for Republicans, is a major issue," he said.

If that is a litmus test for the GOP hall pass to the White House, then Gingrich is dead, too.

Gingrich says that he opposes the Health Care Reform Act, but in 1993, Gregory showed him a comment that he made to Tim Russert on the same show:

REP. GINGRICH: I am for people, individuals -- exactly like automobile insurance --individuals having health insurance and being required to have health insurance. And I am prepared to vote for a voucher system which will give individuals, on a sliding scale, a government subsidy so we insure that everyone as individuals have health insurance.

The economy may lurch slowly forward, but Mr. Obama is developing a large perimeter buffer for 2012 as the radical right lashes out at any candidate who speaks in moderation. Unless someone in the GOP can get that lemming lockstep reconnected, and throw a candidate a vine to pull themselves out of all of that factional fighting, it will be difficult, read impossible, for a Republican candidate to enter the general election, after the primaries, alive.

Add to that the problem that local Tea Parties will be spending big dollars on more extremist candidates who, by the (R) next to their names, tie themselves to the presidential candidate, and whomever is unlucky enough to win the primary will be lucky if we can see their head as it sinks into the quagmire of Republican politics in the 2012 cycle.

My shiny two.

Republished with permission from Truth-2-Power.com

 

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When Newt Gingrich is too moderate for the Republican Party, the Tea Party has turned the political landscape into quicksand for GOP presidential aspirants. Gingrich, appearing on NBC's Meet the Pres...
When Newt Gingrich is too moderate for the Republican Party, the Tea Party has turned the political landscape into quicksand for GOP presidential aspirants. Gingrich, appearing on NBC's Meet the Pres...
 
 
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07:45 PM on 05/22/2011
Oh this is very simple.

Replace this article with two words:

Ron Paul

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Brian Ross
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08:11 AM on 05/24/2011
Endorsements of absolutists? Hardly.
11:08 AM on 05/21/2011
Well, they created this monster, and now it is attacking them....Bwah-ha-ha-ha!!!
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01:02 PM on 05/20/2011
well the GOP and their crazier uncles(if possible) the teabaggers are really one party but decided to pretend they were different. but thinking people know they are just trying to outcrazy each other and confuse the media which seems to be easy to do. they interchange these teabaggers with GOP like their a different party. last time i looked there were two national partys the Republicans and Democrats and the Republicans had totally lost their way when Bush was in office so the Koch brothers came up with teabaggers to fool us but now they think they are really something special and are eating their own (Republicans). the Democrats say thank you and the tea-Republicans are a hot mess and going down in flames.
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09:30 AM on 05/20/2011
300th Fan gets a Truth-2-Power.com t-shirt autographed by me. (You never forget your 300th... Just ask Arnold Schwarzenegger ) Fan and reply to this comment first and we'll contact you!
08:42 AM on 05/20/2011
Gotta love watching these dinosaurs marching lockstep into the LaBrea tar pits.
03:24 AM on 05/20/2011
So far, all I see is a rather sorry bunch of Repugs thinking about being president.

And it is even worse that when one of them has an independent thought, the tea baggers and other right wingnuts descend on him like a plague of locusts.

At least all this radical stuff is scaring off many independents, crossover Dem voters, and even some moderate Repugs.

I gotta admit....some of this Repug stuff is just plain scary!
And ordinary Americans should be afraid of these Repug radicals.
03:53 PM on 05/20/2011
If you've ever read any of his books or heard several of his speeches in their entirety (not FOX News, MSNBC etc. sound bites) you would know Ron Paul is far from scary.
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12:38 AM on 05/21/2011
You're right. Crazy is probably more to the point. Delusional. Utopian purist comes to mind too. Dr. Paul and his loco scion are absolutists. They espouse a politics carved out of a world of their own making that is not the real world. It allows them the luxury of saying things like they wouldn't tell a racist scumbag that he couldn't have his "whites only" diner.

I've heard the unedited Dr. Paul. The only place he would be president is an alternate universe on Stargate.
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01:50 AM on 05/20/2011
Has anyone signed up for the fantasy online game, "Tea Town" about mythical inhabitants of a land that dream about returning to a fantasy world that never existed?
01:38 AM on 05/20/2011
The Republican party is truly "the gang that couldn't shoot straight". Newt Gingrich's brilliant attack on the Paul Ryan budget plan and then his scatter-br­ained retreat from that position says it all. Next week Senate Republican­s will get a chance to vote on Ryan's plan and Democrats are licking their chops waiting for this one. The Republican­s lose either way: if they vote yes that is a vote for right-wing social engfineeri­ng and the destructio­n of Social security and Medicare and they are discredite­d. If they vote against it then they repudiate the plan they had all been supporting 2 weeks ago and they will be seen as hypocrites and indecisive­.The Republican­s are now tagged as the party that wants to destroy Social Security and Medicare, wants to deny women the right to choose an abortion and loves to spout racist "dog-whist­le" attacks on President Barack Obama. Keep it up Republican­s, you are doing a better job of destroying your party than the Democrats ever could! Mark Montgomery NYC, NY
12:31 AM on 05/20/2011
Americans in Michigan , Florida , Wisconsin , New Jersey , Texas , Indiana , Ohio and others are getting to see GOP rule up close and they do not seem to like it .
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12:38 AM on 05/20/2011
On the contrary, they seem to love it in Texas. Of course, the education system isn't exactly producing a lot of deep thinkers.
ScaredAcademic
The GOP: Peddling Hate Since '68
03:15 AM on 05/20/2011
And the joint is on fire. But other than that, things are peachy.
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09:27 AM on 05/20/2011
We've been seeing it in Florida for more than a decade. It got a bit better with Crist, but it is now much, much worse under Scott and one of the reddest legislatures in history. They spill over into the offices that were on the Democrats floor of the state capitol's office buildings. Their solution? Build a wall that blocks off the Dem side from the Republican side. Yep. Things are just getting better by the minute in Florida.
DianneinCA
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11:46 PM on 05/19/2011
The culture of fear that the Republicans have fostered for years has come home to roost. They are now so afraid of each other that they can not say a word that isn't pre approved by their moderators, Rush and Fox. Their time is past. They do not have time to correct their mistakes and instead, decide to double down on them. This is the outcome of movement politics. The Republican party is in fear for it's very existence, and for once they are right to be afraid.
04:03 PM on 05/20/2011
You're right/ And, it's the reason FOX News limits their coverage of Ron Paul. MSNBC and several others totally skewed his position of Bin Laden.
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TyneCrescent
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08:30 PM on 05/19/2011
Gingrich and the Teabaggers are reactionaries. Ryan trying to reshape Medicare and Medicaid on the backs of seniors is reprehensible, at best, with some voucher program. The cost of medical treatment will continue to skyrocket and put tremendous strain on the elderly, many of whom live on fixed incomes and are having trouble trying to make ends meet even now.

Voters elected a bunch of right wing zealots who's only intention was to unseat Obama, had no interest in moving the country forward and had really no business even being elected. But the complacent voters who did not fully participate and vet these candidates bear some of the blame for the ridiculous policies that this Congress is trying to inflict on the American people. They've attacked everything that's come up and want to attack the social nets of a democratic society.

The teabaggers are a very venomous bunch of idealogues who want to set America back to the dark ages.
10:00 PM on 05/19/2011
Right on the mark!!! Kudos
Democrat in the South
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11:46 PM on 05/19/2011
F&F. I wonder if those who elected these idiots realize YET that elections are NOT games?