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The Global Search for Education: More Arts Please

Posted: 08/23/11 04:04 PM ET

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More Arts Please Sir (Photo Courtesy of Beechwood Sacred Heart School UK)


"To lose our culture is to lose our memory."

More Leonardo da Vincis, more Martha Grahams, more Ludwig Van Beethovens, more Luciano Pavarottis, more Marlon Brandos, more Antoni Gaudis, more Coco Chanels, more Bob Dylans, more Zhang Xiaogangs, more William Shakespeares, more Julia Margaret Camerons, more Gustav Vigelands, more Andrew Lloyd Webbers, more Francis Ford Coppolas, more Meryl Streeps, more Alice In Wonderlands, more Anna Pavlovas, more Michael Jacksons, more Vincent van Goghs, more Harry Potters, more Phil Knights, more Rabindranath Tagores, more Pablo Picassos, more John Steinbecks... Please Sir - can we have some more?

Sir Ken Robinson, PhD, is one of the internationally recognized leaders in the development of education creativity and innovation. He has received numerous honorary degrees from universities, and many awards from cultural organizations and governments, all over the world. He was knighted in 2003 by Queen Elizabeth II for services to the Arts. He has advised governments in Europe, Asia and North America on the Arts. In 2005 he was named one of Time/Fortune/CNN's Principal Voices. His book, The Element: How Finding Your Passion Changes Everything, is a New York Times best seller and has been translated into 21 languages. His latest book is the 10th anniversary edition of his classic work on creativity and innovation, Out of Our Minds: Learning to be Creative.

Sir Ken, what do you believe an arts curriculum should look like in primary and secondary school education?

I believe that the arts should be on an equal footing in schools with the sciences, humanities, languages and physical education. In most school systems there is a hierarchy. Arts programs are being cut ruthlessly since "No Child Left Behind" came out ten years ago. In the UK, they still talk about core foundation subjects, i.e. English, Math, and Science. In most countries the arts are a second tier activity. My first point is that the arts must be given equal footing. That's what we argued in The Arts in Schools, the book I published in 1982.

There's a need for a balance in arts education in several respects. One of them is that a proper arts curriculum would provide for music, dance, visual arts, literature and drama. When we did The Arts in Schools project, I made a point of not trying to define the arts in any form. The reason for this was that the arts are a vibrant set of disciplines, and when you go into different cultures they don't think of there being 4 or 5 different art forms. For example, for an audience watching a dance performance, that is a visual art form; if you look at musical theater, that is a combination of different disciplines: acting, dancing, music. So even defining 5 or 6 different art forms can become problematic.

Secondly, I think there should be a balance within the teaching of the arts. I ran a large project in the UK in the 80's called the "The Arts 5-16" in which we offered a clear framework for arts education. There should be a balance between actually doing the arts and secondly, engaging students in understanding other people's work. In other words, making and appraising. In some schools you will find that there is a greater emphasis on the latter, i.e. appraising. Students read books or listen to music, but they're not encouraged to create it themselves. In other schools, you will find the opposite, i.e. students doing their own work and never looking at anybody else's. A balanced arts education has to include both.

Under each of these areas of creating and appraising, we have to teach that creating arts is a discipline based process. It is not just free form. You must learn the skills and techniques of any area but they have to be taught in a way that enables you to think differently and imaginatively. There are forms of teaching that are highly uncreative and where the emphasis on discipline can kill the passion to make art. So there has to be a direct relationship between learning the skills involved and having the freedom to use them and to think creatively through them. The balance is about technical and creative development.

In terms of appraising other people's work, arts education should include a balance between contextual knowledge and critical judgment. A full appreciation of a work includes understanding something of the history and context in which it was produced. For example, some people look at modern art and think it's nonsense and that's often because they don't understand the context in which it was produced or what the artists' intentions were. It's like looking at a page of Romanian if you don't speak it. So an important part of arts education is helping people understand context, background, and cultural references. The second process is developing skills of critical judgment. In the end you can understand a piece of art in the context and the background to it and still not like it. Enabling students to formulate, express and defend their own aesthetic and critical judgment of the arts is an essential element of a properly balanced arts education in any discipline.

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More Arts Please Sir (Photo Courtesy of Beechwood Sacred Heart School UK)


Can student performance in the arts be assessed?

It is absolutely possible to assess people's work in the arts. I've worked with arts academies and with conservatoires in music and visual arts; with specialist arts teachers in school who are assessing students all of the time. Assessment requires that you understand what you are looking at and for and that you are clear about the criteria that you are applying. For example, when a six or seven year old produces a drawing, an art teacher needs to have a frame of reference for what's normal for a child that age. Part of that is the creative content of the work. But what you would also be looking for are the graphic capabilities and the level of execution. The same is true if you are looking at children who work in dance or theater. There are multiple levels at which you make judgments. Part of the problem in schools is that the arts are not taught regularly or systematically, and too often they are not taught by people who have had a proper grounding in the disciplines.

Another problem is that in this country there is a culture of standardized testing based on right or wrong types of answers. However, if you are looking at someone's paintings, reading their poetry, or listening to music, then you are focusing on a whole array of factors. We have a tendency to make the measurable important versus the important measurable. The arts are about textures of meaning and understanding, and qualities of perception and expression. This does not mean that they cannot be assessed, but it is difficult to reduce them to simple paper and pencil tests.

Our education systems are obsessed with a particular type of academic ability, and that is a rather narrow view of knowledge and what it means to be intelligent. For all kinds of cultural and historical reasons, the arts have not been seen as being a part of that view. In my book, Out of Our Minds: Learning to be Creative, I tried to explain why the arts are marginalized. It's partly for economic reasons. People believe that if you do the arts you simply won't get a job. The other part is the restrictive culture of intelligence in schools that I just mentioned.

We've covered teaching the arts as separate and interdisciplinary forms. Can the arts also be integrated into other academic subject areas to enhance learning?

I don't think "subjects" is a very good term. "Subjects" implies an area that is defined by its content. Mathematics isn't a subject to be studied as much as a set of disciplines to be practiced. In other words, you do mathematics, you do not just study it. The same is true of sciences such as chemistry and physics. Music is exactly the same. It is a set of disciplines. There are physical skills, hand eye coordination, aesthetic sensibilities, ideas you need to absorb. So I think "disciplines" is a better term than "subjects" because it captures the concept of practice as well as of ideas.

The other thing I like about "disciplines" is that it opens up the idea of inter-disciplinary. There is a lot in common between the arts and the sciences. In my conception of a great school, there would be all these disciplines represented and there would be a lot of traffic between them. I've been working on this idea with schools for over 40 years. Science being taught through music. Music being taught through history. If you want to understand the time and sensibilities of other periods or other cultures, you need to listen to their music.

The more dynamic and collaborative we are in our approaches to teaching, the more likely we are to deepen our understanding of ourselves and of other times as well. Part of our problem is that we have constructed education systems that are like production lines. There is a big separation in our schooling systems between the arts and the sciences. They are taught by different people in different rooms at different times of the day. One example I give of the consequences is from the Natural History Museum. If you visit the insect rooms, you'll find wonderful displays of butterflies, all arranged in glass cases on the walls. They're dead, but beautifully arranged by classification, i.e. size, color, etc. In the room next to them you'll find the beetles. In another room you'll find the spiders. But, if you go out into the world, that is not how you see them. You do not see the butterflies keeping to themselves over in one corner or the spiders lined up in columns keeping their distance. In nature, they are interacting with each other.

It's the same in human cultures. They evolve by ideas from different disciplines affecting each other. They flow into each other and inspire people to think differently in their own fields. Schools can stifle this creative interaction by classifying subjects too tightly and keeping them too firmly in separate boxes.

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01:02 PM on 09/04/2011
So grateful to Ken Robinson for courageously raising his voice. In my pilot guild, a cooperative arts based school servicing students K through 12th grade, we don't just integrate the RRRs and the arts, we ground the RRRs in the arts. The outcome is rich, transcending traditional outcome goals—writers who are published, painters collaborating with storytellers, eager mathematicians, musicians who compose for film, scientists who are trained to observe, on and on. I am privileged to mentor students who have learned to care about the creative impulse and have documented the journey in Habits of Being: Artifacts from the Classroom Guild.

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11:44 PM on 08/28/2011
I don't see how anyone can argue Sir Ken Robinson's views. His suggestions are so logical.
11:27 PM on 08/28/2011
To lose our culture is to lose our memory. Also, to lose our humanity.There are purposes to education other than competing with the Chinese. The list is too long to mention here.
11:48 PM on 08/24/2011
As long as my kids can add, find America on a map, construct a meaningful sentence, and can explain the direction of the sun -- they can and should do arts.

There are a lot of good ideas here -- but call me a skeptic that it will end up that our kids will just be getting an inferior education whether intended or not.
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Peter Crosby123
11:19 AM on 08/25/2011
I can't see how it could end up with an inferior education, why do you suggest that as a possibility?
03:20 PM on 08/25/2011
it's too easy to focus on arts and not focus on the fundamentals. The funadmentals are "boring" when compared with things like sports, arts, etc. I could care less if my child can play an instrument, or have a lofty conseravtion about arts, or any of that if he can't read a book. Think about it -- you're a kid with choices -- and you'll do what's easy unless a parent or teacher intervenes. So my suggestion is that your child or the children in a school system can end up getting an inferior education because they can's handle the basics. Arts and Sports should be electives and left to time after students have masted the basics.
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Joshua Ricardo Smith
12:00 PM on 08/25/2011
I don't think that there should be any prerequisites to study the arts, they can always be studied concurrently with the sciences. What needs to happen is that they're both given a more even footing.
03:15 PM on 08/25/2011
no problem with concurrently -- but we need to make sure our kids know the basics so they can get jobs. While creativity and arts, and all that are important -- if you can read, write, and handle simple math, or do things likes "Critical thinking" -- than you're not likely to be prepared for the world where you need a job.
02:39 PM on 08/24/2011
Yay for @SirKenRobinson! I've just finished reading The Element and am convinced. Why won't politicians listen? Seems pretty clear that the future (whatever else it may be) will be impossible to predictably imagine. Merely teaching 'content' is guaranteed to churn out a generation unable to cope with the bewildering speed of change in the post-digital age. What we need are the skills the adapt to whatever reality awaits us. Admittedly creativity is just one of those skills and Arts education isn't the entire answer but it's a start. Will somebody make Gove listen?
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Peter Crosby123
11:26 AM on 08/25/2011
One thing that I read recently about the problem with politics in the West at the moment is that the politicians change too rapidly. What I mean by this is that one government comes in and sets off making their changes for 5 years before the next government comes in with their totally new ideas. They then proceed to undo most of what the last government did and restart everything based on their own ideologies.

Radical changes in education are going to take a good few years, so unless the different Parties can agree on a joint strategy then we'll simply go back and forth indefinitely, which isn't what anyone wants.
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Joshua Ricardo Smith
06:15 PM on 08/26/2011
Great point. Look at China, for example, I'm not keen on their political ideologies but I cannot deny that it isn't a long term stable government who actually follows through with what they start.

We need one key idea and then to focus on it without getting side tracked.
11:12 PM on 08/28/2011
Americans in my opinion tend to have a short term focus. Perhaps this is a function of the political system. But not because governments change every 4 years. Because politicians want to be re-elected. Long term sacrifice doesn't fly.
04:02 PM on 08/25/2011
Well said. We need to adopt his vision.
01:44 AM on 08/24/2011
I agree with these ideas enthusiastically. I would like to see if this resonates with the NY school community.
01:19 PM on 08/24/2011
I'm sure it will - it definitely resonated with me.
04:04 PM on 08/25/2011
New York itself is a fabulous example of the melding of arts and sciences. A city of unmatched creativity and of paramount commercial achievement, much of which has required great creativity.
11:13 PM on 08/28/2011
Most great cities seem to meld the arts and sciences. Paris. Barcelona. Berlin. London.
This should not be overlooked in thinking about the right goals for an educational system.
11:30 PM on 08/28/2011
And San Francisco. And Boston. And London. And Shanghai (believe it or not).
01:33 AM on 08/24/2011
There are so many more opportunities to do this in the future. But arts programs need to be tailored to the student, not just cookie cutter experiments for all.
01:10 PM on 08/24/2011
We've seen what happens when one program is forced onto every child - and that is that it simply doesn't work. Within a program, there needs to be scope to adjust and amend it to best fit the individual students, and this is what will set the good teachers apart from the bad teachers.
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Peter Crosby123
11:28 AM on 08/25/2011
I think the idea will get a lot of opposition if it starts highlighting bad teachers!
11:31 PM on 08/28/2011
Otherwise, the smart will flounder, and the weaker students will drown.
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Julie Aldridge
01:23 PM on 08/24/2011
Arts more than sciences benefit from having tailor made programs. The arts is all about individuality and imagination - by definition there can be no "one size fits all".
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Joshua Ricardo Smith
06:31 PM on 08/26/2011
Absolutely, though even the sciences can't be "cookie cutter" - every child learns differently and responds better to different styles of teaching.
06:54 PM on 08/23/2011
I reckon that in our current society, the sciences will always win out over the arts. More importance is placed on them and this is an inherent cultural thing that I doubt will change soon. Of course, my comment is a generalisation but in my mind, it holds true. Personally, I'm more of an arts man.
02:30 AM on 08/24/2011
I think the importance can change from decade to decade. I think we will soon revert back because the world will be the playing field.
01:08 PM on 08/24/2011
Looking back historically, you have a good point. We're living in the digital age at the moment and this leads to science being a highly desired subject. As we advance, it's a safe bet that so will our priorities.
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Julie Aldridge
01:29 PM on 08/24/2011
We need more Arts-y people like you! But I think it is just a phase that we're going through at the moment that favours science, and this is dictated by industry more than anything else. Just as an example, engineers at places like Google and Apple get very adequately remunerated every month and therefore there is a lot of demand for these jobs.
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Peter Crosby123
11:33 AM on 08/25/2011
And to go further on your point, conversely, it's incredibly hard to make a decent living as a musician or an artist. My cousin is in fact a professional trombonist and he finds his work incredibly rewarding - but he doesn't have the luxury of financial security for anything longer than a few months at a time.

Still, life isn't all about money!
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Peter Crosby123
06:49 PM on 08/23/2011
It's so true that the education systems around now are like production lines. It's purpose is to get students in, make them sit exams, then send them off to university or wherever else is appropriate. It's all so impersonal nowadays.
02:33 AM on 08/24/2011
And it appears there may be some university level production lines as well. A bad way to go, as it will sap the desire to learn from people for the rest of their lives.
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Peter Crosby123
11:35 AM on 08/25/2011
It used to be that universities still promoted individual learning and self exploration, but you're right, even they are guilty of turning into a "production line" churning out graduates to take on the managerial roles in industry.
01:18 PM on 08/24/2011
Where is the inspiration in this system? Children are born hungry for knowledge, it amazes me how these very institutions can turn people off learning.
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Joshua Ricardo Smith
06:19 PM on 08/26/2011
It is a bit ironic, but the fact that it happens is proof that there are inherent flaws in the system.
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Julie Aldridge
06:45 PM on 08/23/2011
The Arts is an area of education which REALLY shows up the flaws of testing, yet we can still assess it using other methods. We can learn a lot from this and apply these "non standardized tests" to the areas of education which are infamous for their heavy use of standardized testing.
02:34 AM on 08/24/2011
I think the entire testing system should be scrapped,
01:06 PM on 08/24/2011
Well, testing is required to a point - realistically we do need some way to measure how well students are performing and differentiating between the ones most suited for universities. The problem is the WAY we test, which needs to, and can be, changed.
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Julie Aldridge
01:30 PM on 08/24/2011
No government would have the nerve to do that!

How then do you propose we select successful candidates for universities?
01:17 PM on 08/24/2011
In theory your idea sounds nice, but in practice the arts and the sciences have different testing out of necessity. There is no binary answer for a piece of art, yet there easily can be for a scientific question.
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Peter Crosby123
11:38 AM on 08/25/2011
You're right, but that is only one way of doing it. There are other ways of testing which can give us the information we need to know on the progress of a student but at the same time doesn't ultimately lead to increased emotional stress. I'm thinking of things like continual assessment, for example.
04:14 PM on 08/25/2011
There can be binary answers for science, but there are also answers that reflect thought that can be solicited by questions that are not multiple choice.
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JAdams77
06:39 PM on 08/23/2011
Even for those who rate the Sciences as more important, the Arts are still invaluable for aiding the learning of science. It establishes a way of creative thinking that is very useful - and only attainable through study of the Arts.
02:35 AM on 08/24/2011
Even more so. The arts and sciences can be shared to reach greater heights in both professions
01:13 PM on 08/24/2011
It works both ways - think of how the mathematical study of music can help a musician truly understand music and compose better pieces.
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Joshua Ricardo Smith
11:48 AM on 08/25/2011
I remain sceptical, some people like myself just aren't wired up in that way. Give me logic and reason any day! All this arts stuff goes right over my head, yet I'd still describe myself a a perfectly competent scientist.
10:33 PM on 08/27/2011
I think it would be worth trying harder. Should have been done 10 years ago.
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Joshua Ricardo Smith
06:33 PM on 08/23/2011
Interesting article - I wonder how much Sir Ken thinks the Arts have changed between now and in 1982 when he published "The Arts in Schools", or whether the situation has remained stagnant.
02:37 AM on 08/24/2011
Technology alone has had a dramatic impact.
01:12 PM on 08/24/2011
I agree with you, but I don't think schools have embraced it as fully as they can. Technology holds so much learning potential and it should be exploited in every way possible.
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Joshua Ricardo Smith
11:46 AM on 08/25/2011
Potentially yes, but only if the schools use it properly and effectively, which isn't a given.
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Julie Aldridge
01:32 PM on 08/24/2011
Certainly a lot has changed in the last couple of decades, the question is whether this change has been for the better. Whatever the case, with all the research on education done since then we are certainly more knowledgeable, now it is surely a case of applying what we know to create a world leading education system.
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Peter Crosby123
11:44 AM on 08/25/2011
I agree, more knowledgeable, but have we become wise enough to implement what we know? Apparently not quite...
11:21 PM on 08/28/2011
We need to agree on goals. Then we can develop the details.