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Real Catholics Don't Get Married Outside: Why the Church Should Reconsider

Posted: 01/20/2012 10:00 am

My sister-in-law is getting married this spring. I've tried on my bridesmaid dress, jotted down the date of her New York City bachelorette party and also, intrigued, watched her struggle as she strives to book a priest.

Like me, she was raised Catholic and is marrying one. And, like my husband -- her brother -- and I did when we got married in 2005, she and her fiancé are trying to make this a Catholic affair.

Trying. Because there are rules.

I remember sitting in the chapel of the Newman Center at the University of Chapel Hill with many other couples during a Pre-Cana conference prior to our own wedding, listening to the priest talk about the importance of our forthcoming unions.

And then, unexpectedly, but with true passion: "You can't get married outside." He paused, then repeated, "You just can't."

My sister-in-law, however, wants to do just that. Plenty of people do.

Why can't a Catholic ceremony take place outside? I turned to the wisdom of the internet to help me sort this out, and found many reasons, both casual and, seemingly, from on high.

Catholics marrying non-Catholics can get a special dispensation allowing marriage someplace other than a Catholic church. But if you're both Catholic, the church wedding is important. The answer, as I've interpreted it, mostly concerns the fact that the church is the true "house of God," and marriage, being a sacrament, should be celebrated there.

The sites Catholic Education Resource Center and Catholic Answers , as well as many others, approach the subject with articles and online forums.

But really, the best explanation I've heard was from that priest. "You just can't." And to be honest, I didn't mind that brash, in-your-face brand of Catholicism at the time, despite the fact that I approach my religion with many questions, and many complaints.

There was something pompous, but somehow satisfying, about the air of inclusion and the "follow the rules!" ethic, since -- although we hadn't attended mass in ages -- we were getting married the way they wanted. Church, full mass, long veil, bread into body.

We simply didn't care. Fine with us.

My sister-in-law, however, wants to get married outside due to a combination of factors, including the fact that the reception location is not close to a church and is a lovely place to hold a wedding.

Not to mention that the diocese where she and her fiancé will wed is not one either belongs to, and is rumored to be strict, so may not have allowed them to hold the ceremony in a church there anyway.

She's been looking for a priest who would agree to marry them at their reception site -- outside the house of God, within the house of nature -- for several months. She's had priests outright refuse, refer her elsewhere and one memorable man of God who agreed to do it but only for a considerable sum of money.

The result? She's resigned to go outside the traditional church in more ways than the outdoor wedding.

A Catholic priest might still marry them, but one who has broken with the church in his own way. She's talked to a priest who decided to get married himself, but stayed with the faith, even after this obvious breach in the sacred code.

He agreed to marry them outside, but first held long, serious talks with the couple; not about their venue, but about their decision to spend their lives together.

We attended a non-traditional, half-Catholic wedding this summer, when two very dear friends, one Jewish and one Catholic, got married under tall palms and bright sunshine in Florida by both a priest and a rabbi. I found the effort they'd made to include both faiths just as moving as their absolute love for one another.

And having it outside was beautiful, even beyond the aesthetic.

I know what the critics will say about my sister-in-law and her problem.

"If they want to have a Catholic marriage, they should follow the rules."

And...

"This is a poor representation of the Church's beliefs regarding marriage."

And...

"Who cares?"

And...

"This writer is an non-practicing phony, who has no idea what she is talking about concerning the Catholic faith, or anything else."

I concur that I'm no expert.

But what I know, and stress, is this: They tried. But there are unbending rules, and the rules on not getting married outside are a minor compared with so many regulations held at high standards by the modern Church.

The multitude of congregants, however -- both young and old -- sometimes want to bend. And if they can't, they will break.

It's something for the Catholic hierarchy to think about.

 

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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
01:27 AM on 02/05/2012
It couldn't be that the light of day makes them feel like scurrying under a rock could it? No, It could be just that they don't want to answer questions outside their comfort zone, the mystic temple atmosphere, where they feel they have the power.
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ez3714
04:59 PM on 01/31/2012
"The multitude of congregants, however -- both young and old -- sometimes want to bend. And if they can't, they will break.

It's something for the Catholic hierarchy to think about."

Ummm, no, actually it's Not something for the heirarchy to think about. This is the equivalent of a 5-year old saying, "If I can't stay up late and watch t-v, I'm going to run away from home." You are suggesting the parent only impose those rules that the child likes and understands. That is how the 38,000+ denominations were formed/are forming.
Tara Hunkoff
I could have been Sheila Noyeau
10:23 PM on 01/23/2012
Catholic weddings outdoors? Why not?
You could use Off! Mosquito Coils for the incense.
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Richbruin
We'll walk this world together through the storm
08:14 PM on 01/22/2012
More of the same......The attitude that the Church should do what I want, when I want, how I want because thats what I want is neither mature or realistic. What organization operates that way? Can I go to the DMV and make them give me an exam at 10 pm because its convenient for me and thats what I want?.....But...but...but....the Church is supposed to do what I want!...No....it doesn't...
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The Corporate Champion
Conservative, because someone's got to do the work
07:39 PM on 01/22/2012
I didn't know Catholics could marry outside their faith.
10:51 PM on 01/21/2012
Contd....... Being we are speaking of Catholic marriages, if 2 Catholics wish to be married by a Priest it can only take place in a Holy Place. Since marriage is regarded as Holy also, set aside between the two and God, it reachs a higher standard than just a wedding, it is a blessed event in which we seek Gods full participation in the marriage, hence, it takes place in a place set aside for him. in the Church, is a Holy Sacrament, an action which brings grace from God, it is holy. The ordinary place for all sacraments is within the Church at the Altar where we offer and remember the sacrifice of his son. If you are looking for modern reasoning why the marriage takes place in a Church, well, no answer will suffice. If you are searching for religous reasons why, there are plenty beginning with what I presented here. Especially the fact that marriage is a Holy event and a covenant between 3, not two.
10:44 PM on 01/21/2012
There are valid faith based reasons why..First, the ordinary place for the Mass is always in the Church, only in extra ordinary circumstances can the mass be held outside. Therefore the ordinary place for a wedding Mass is also in the Church and only in extra ordinary circumstances, such as a catholic/Non Catholic wedding can it be diverted from. Secondly the Church is a Holy Place, Holy means a place, a person or object set aside for God. Since the sacrament of marriage is actually a covenant between the man, woman and God it should take place in a Holy Place, the Church. This does not mean God does not exist everywhere, a common misnomer, but rather certain places and things are set aside to be used only for Gods use. We see this in the temple of the Old testament and even more specifically in the Arc of the Covenant, which though built by human hands, once set aside for God could not even be touched by humans or death would ensue. In other words the Arc was set aside for God, as was the temple, and considered a Holy Place.
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oma89
08:43 PM on 01/21/2012
What could be a holier place than a garden, a beach or even a back yard where the beauty of nature could only enhance the spirituality of the occasion? As a Catholic I'm sad to say that this ridiculous policy is about the ability of parishes to charge exorbitantly for the use of the church.
11:00 PM on 01/21/2012
Though the whole world is made by God, there are places set aside for him which are Holy. Being that your Catholic, would you go out to the bar with the Chalice the priest uses at mass, of course not, because the Chalice has been set aside for Holy use. Would you use Holoy water to wash your dish's. of course not, for the water is now different than regular water, it is set aside for Gods use. Yes nature is beautiful, but sacred and holy is still more important than mere emotions. If we speak of spiriotuality, not emotionality, than what could be holier than the offering in mass of the marriage between a man and woman in a place set aside for God. Being spiritual and being moved by emotion are 2 different things...As far as Churchs charging exhorbinantly, well, I agree, though those working at the wedding deserved to be paid. But on that account, a wedding outdoors would cost far more and those, including the minister, still needs to be paid.
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raker
09:45 AM on 01/21/2012
I've seen outdoor masses, so I suppose it isn't a pagan vibe due to the presence of nature that they object to. Maybe they don't like the rule-flouting hippie vibe of an outdoor wedding; lately, the church has blamed its multitude of problems on modernity. To the church, fresh air is literally and metaphorically modern, and therefore the enemy. The bride and groom should be grateful they're not required to say their vows in Latin.
10:08 AM on 01/22/2012
You're conjecturing bullcrap. The whole "church is anti-modern" shtick died out in the early 20th century. Catholic masses have to be in a church because they're a public, holy Sacrament, not merely a romantic ceremony for the couple.
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Bones Rhodes
12:56 AM on 01/21/2012
"The multitude of congregants, however -- both young and old -- sometimes want to bend. And if they can't, they will break"

.Let the Catholic ship dash itself against the reefs of its own making: I, for one, will watch them sink without any sense of loss.
11:04 PM on 01/21/2012
Well, bones, the Church is growing and will continue to grow. Though by modern society it appears antiquated, in reality, it has been proven over and over through history, the Church is ahead of the times. Gods ways are not mans ways, thinking in mans reasoning are not Gods ways....
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Bones Rhodes
12:47 AM on 01/22/2012
"the Church is growing and will continue to grow. "

Not what all the reports show: they show that Christianity is losing numbers, that Catholics have a larger percentage of a smaller group, and that "unaffiliated" is making the largest gains.
10:10 AM on 01/22/2012
You should be happy to know that, in the course of history, many have felt the same way. The Jews, the Romans, the Muslims, most of the early American settlers, and the "enlightened" people of the 19th and 20th century. So you're in good company with people who turned out to be very, very wrong.
10:11 PM on 01/20/2012
With all the problems in the world, seems like the Catholic Church should suspend these kind of rules and focus on all the suffering in the thousands and thousands of families in these United States.
11:08 PM on 01/21/2012
Susan, take a look at Catholic Charities, the largest charitable orginization in this country as well as the world and all the work that is done for families, the poor etc..Look at all the catholic hospitals to heal the sick, the Catholic schools to educate etc.
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rich3324
Likes: Chasing villagers. Dislikes: Fire
03:51 PM on 01/20/2012
Do you have to pay to use the church?
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BurtonDesque
Fear a Blank Planet
05:56 AM on 01/21/2012
Of course.
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Kelly Carroll
02:05 PM on 01/20/2012
The Bible is pretty straightforward that His followers are the body, and we are the church...so it doesn't matter where we get married. And has already been said, God is everywhere. The churches/priests sound like they just want money, and if it's not done their way, take the highway. Rediculous.
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Syllogizer
Barely Left of Pobedonostsev
03:32 PM on 01/20/2012
Non sequitur. The Bible also commanded worship in a temple. For the same reason, we continue to worship in church buildings today.
11:12 PM on 01/21/2012
Not for the money Kelly but for very valid religous reasons..Was not the temple a place set aside for God, what about the Arc of the Covenant or the burning bush where Moses encountered God. All special places set aside for God, Holy places..Marriage is a covenant between the man, wife and God, where else shall it take place than somewhere that is Holy, set aside for God.
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Kelly Carroll
01:26 PM on 01/22/2012
Who makes a place holy? Man or God? Actually, both. A church is Holy because that is where we worship, but I was married in a greenhouse because God's creation is more Holy to me than a building that man built, with our pastor who prayed blessings over us...and that was holy. Buildings can get torn down, but God's creation will never cease. Putting undo importance on things, like a building, is addressesd in the Bible as wrong.
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phal4875
The world is run by cats; we just feed them.
01:51 PM on 01/20/2012
God makes a very specific point in the Old Testament of saying that he is the God who is everywhere, not just in the hills or valleys, for example. That seems all-encompassing enough to make the Catholic churches not the only places where God resides.
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Barely Left of Pobedonostsev
03:37 PM on 01/20/2012
Yours is a "straw-man" argument. Nobody ever SAID that God resides only in Catholic Churches. That is NOT the reason why worship takes place in Church buildings. It takes place there because New Testament worship is actual participation in the work of Christ, made mystically present not only by the congregation, but also by the symbols used in worship: the Church building, the altar, the statues/icons, even the sacred singing.

This is all explained in great detail in "The Mystagogia" by St. Maximus the Confessor; in lesser detail in any good book on liturgics.
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Bones Rhodes
12:57 AM on 01/21/2012
Could you tell us where it is explained in any detail within the Bible ?
11:16 PM on 01/21/2012
He also makes a specific point to describe the temple to be built and set aside for his use, a holy place. He also specifies the building of the Arc of the Covenant when, once built, no man could even touch for God dwelt there in a special way, a Holy Place, a Holy object. So yes God is everywhere but yet there are places set aside for him. Is God at Wrigley Field during a Cubs game, of course, but Wrigley field is not a Holy place set aside for him. Was God everywhere during the Old testament, of course, yet he also set aside places that were Holy and set aside for him.
01:43 PM on 01/20/2012
I know that an option is to have a separate church wedding, but I guess for the time between the civil ceremony and the church wedding, the couple would be in the eyes of the church, living in sin. (Oh, no!)
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Barely Left of Pobedonostsev
03:42 PM on 01/20/2012
"living in sin" -- that depends on what they are doing in the hours between the one wedding and the other;)
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ZenSufi
Sisters and Brothers of America!
06:48 PM on 01/20/2012
I prefer living in Zen.
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Bones Rhodes
01:00 AM on 01/21/2012
---while I prefer living with Zinfandel