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Are We Ready to Cut Defense Spending? What the Polls Say

Posted: 02/08/11 06:28 PM ET

Although neither the White House nor Congress seem eager to apply the deficit-reduction axe to the Pentagon's record-level budgets, the American public appears ready. This is the upshot of a January poll conducted by the Program for Public Consultation (PPC), a joint effort of the Center on Policy Attitudes and the University of Maryland's School of Public Policy. There is one important caveat, though: the public's preference hinges on knowledge about how much treasure we actually pour into the Pentagon's coffers.

The PPC poll takes an interesting approach to querying the public about policy options: First, it informs participants about actual spending levels in discretionary accounts, and then asks them to apply reductions, account by account. The result: a mean reduction to annual discretionary spending of $146 billion. Of this, the participants take $121.8 billion out of the defense account. The lion's share of the defense cut -- $109.4 billion -- was applied to the Pentagon's "base budget," which excludes war funding.

The poll's findings accord with the recommendations of various deficit-reduction reports issued last year, including those of the Sustainable Defense Task Force, the Domenici-Rivlin Debt Reduction Task Force, and the president's bipartisan Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. These found it both possible and necessary to roll-back planned Pentagon budgets by as much as $100 billion per year.

How does the PPC poll compare with other surveys on defense spending and deficit reduction?

A January poll conducted by CBS affirmed majority support for cutting defense as part of deficit reduction -- 52% versus 44% -- but also found that defense was not as popular a target as some other programs. The preference for cutting defense was completely reversed in a separate poll conducted by Gallup and USA Today, which found 57% opposed to deficit-related defense cuts. How to reconcile these results?

Gallup routinely polls the public on whether defense spending is too high, too low, or "just right." Since 2003, "too much" has consistently out-polled "too little." In 2010, the split was 34% versus 27% -- with a plurality settling on the status quo as "just right." A January 2011 Rasmussen survey echoes the Gallup findings: support for defense cuts (32%) out-polls support for defense increases (27%), while support for the status quo registers 37%.

When moving from a three-choice to a two-choice question -- cuts versus no cuts -- we might expect the "too little spending" and "just right" cohorts to band together and overwhelmingly oppose cuts by margins approaching two-to-one. But this isn't what the recent deficit reduction polls show, even when a majority is found to oppose cuts.

Much of the difference among the polls is due to context -- policy context and information context. Economic concerns clearly predominate today. And the clamor for federal spending cuts is strong. In this context, support for constraining or rolling back military spending has grown stronger, too.

Of course, wording also matters. The CBS poll that found majority support for defense cuts used the phrase "reduce defense spending," while the Gallup poll that found the reverse asked about cuts to "the military and national defense." Mentioning the military may invoke a "support the troops" frame. And "the military" may have a more positive resonance generally with the public than does "defense" on its own. By contrast, the CBS poll's option to "reduce defense spending" keeps the focus on the act of spending, which may remind participants that the point of the exercise is deficit reduction.

Most important: support for substantial cuts in the Pentagon budget grows dramatically when poll participants know the actual level of defense spending and know how it measures up relative to (i) spending in other areas and/or (ii) the amounts that other nations spend on defense. This is made clear in Rasmussen polls that test support for setting US defense spending as some multiple of what other nations spend. In these polls, 40% respond that the United States need not spend three times as much as any other country -- although, in fact, it certainly spends at least five times as much. As the multiple goes up, support for spending goes down.

What do these findings portend for achieving substantial defense savings? Much depends on what people know. Also, much depends on people's relative concern about the economy. If fear of military threats and worry about military weakness increase in prominence relative to economic concerns then support for cutting defense may decline. In this light, Defense Secretary Gates' claim that any substantial rollback in future spending plans risks catastrophe or calamity -- whether true or false -- could help push popular opinion back toward its pre-crisis balance.

So far, neither popular sentiment nor the findings of the deficit-reduction groups are reflected in policy action on the defense budget. Secretary of Defense Gates has offered to trim spending plans by only $78 billion total over a five-year period, after rebuffing a somewhat more ambitious White House request to find $150 billion in savings during 2011-2016. And deficit-reduction plans by House Republicans and the Republican Study Committee exempt the Pentagon almost entirely.

Carl Conetta and Charles Knight are co-directors of the Project on Defense Alternatives and members of the Sustainable Defense Task Force. They can be contacted at pda@comw.org.

 
 
 
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somefool
On the road towards neo-feudalism
06:15 PM on 02/09/2011
It's idiotic what we spend on defense. It's like 4 times what China-the #2 defense spender-budgets for defense, and yet for a lot of Pols, it's not even on the table. We're in trouble if these are the best decisions we can make as a society.
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marignymitch
E pluribus unum percent
06:03 PM on 02/09/2011
The "Defense' Department: a name that makes Orwell proud.
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
04:06 PM on 02/09/2011
You know, we probably wouldn't have to cut as much if we weren't spending huge amounts to occupy foreign countries! Let's bring our troops home.
02:28 PM on 02/09/2011
Most Americans have no "feel" or insight into defense spending and, therefore, cannot really make a valid judgement as compared to other government expenditures. Hundreds of thousands of Americans work in the defense industry from government agencies down into large companies like Boeing and Lockheed, many research and development companies and college graduate programs, and a huge number of suppliers that provide parts and services. The defense budget is one of the most effective economic stimulus programs the government has going for our country. The overall payback in terms of research and development and national security is basically "priceless". However, all of that said, that doesn't mean that there aren't ways to streamline the procedures and infrastructure and improve the efficiencies to minimize waste in the overall management and procurement process.
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parlimentMike
Terrorists keep you in fear
02:21 PM on 02/09/2011
Polls are a diversion, they are used to support bad legislation when they match, but the are ignored when they oppose other bad legislation.

This is part of the myth of representative government.
12:44 PM on 02/09/2011
One single airplane contract, one that the Pentagon did NOT ask for, has gone years overdue and just the amount OVERBUDGET it is, is greater than every single earmark combined. Here is an article from 2009 talking about the program and they STILL haven't delivered it. Again, remember, all those earmarks that the republicans and the Tea Party talk about...just this ONE non-requested program has cost overuns that are greater than all of them combined. That doesn't even take into consideration the massive ACTUAL amount that the program is costing.

http://www.military.com/news/article/report-f35-behind-schedule-and-over-budget.html

So here is an idea..don't force a gigantic budget busting order ont he Pentagon if they haven't even asked for it.

If a defense company bids on a program force them to come in at the price they have bid.
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
12:10 PM on 02/09/2011
It's astounding to me that the defense budget has become a sacred cow, when the microscope is being applied to every other government program. Alan Grayson had the right idea when he proposed to America "The War is Making You Poor". Insane levels of spending for zero return. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-alan-grayson/the-war-is-making-you-poo_b_585343.html
02:19 PM on 02/09/2011
it has doubled in the last 7yrs. from 360billion to 720billion dollars.. that did not count the wars in iraq an afgan.. that is until 2010...no more war, we pay that obscene amout on the backs of the American worker. to pay for these corp. "nafta" to set up overseas an protect the corp. whom 66percent pay no tax?
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
10:33 AM on 02/10/2011
Exactly. It's a joke.
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doodlebug2
12:06 PM on 02/09/2011
Cutting defense will never happen, like oil and cocaine we are addicted to it.
Think of all the jobs and contracts created. Think of the towns near bases that survive on defense spending. Think about the scince that creates "star wars" stuff and Nuke subs and a big cool super cannon. I live near the worlds largest navy base. Our rep (R) is calling for more, guess what he won. If you ask people that are involved with defense (MIC and soldiers) ask if they want it cut?

Say what you want, no one will cut a dime.
11:19 AM on 02/09/2011
Whatever happened to the "Peace Dividend" when the Soviet Union collasped 15 years ago? Aren't $8 billion aircraft carriers destined to sit in the harbor and rust in the salt water? Guess what happened to the giant Soviet submarine fleet! Do any of our current "enemies" have a single tank, airplane or ship? Do we need to follow the Soviet lead and bankrupt ourselves with our own military?
11:45 AM on 02/09/2011
The military/industrial has never seen an obsolete program it doesn't love.
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doodlebug2
12:02 PM on 02/09/2011
yes but it creates jobs. (sarcasm)
11:08 AM on 02/09/2011
Gallop:

Poll finds high disapproval of President Obama’s handling of the deficit
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SequimBob2
09:49 PM on 02/08/2011
Let's try a different set of questions:

Would you prefer to (a) have your Social Security check reduced by one-third or (b) cut Defense by one third?

Second question: Would you prefer a strong defense over the elimination of Medicare?

Questions need to be put in context. These should do the trick.
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JStading
"Shall NOT be infringed" means what it says.
02:57 PM on 02/09/2011
Why pick between either?  How about this - I want A and B.  Make it so.
HardKnocksBlues
We CAN handle the truth
08:51 PM on 02/08/2011
The American Empire is destroying America.
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IOKIYANO
03:28 PM on 02/09/2011
Only 95% of it. The other 5% is doing just fine.