Carl Jeffers

Carl Jeffers

Posted: October 16, 2009 12:29 PM

Rush Loses Rams Bid, Rest of Us Just Lose

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In the aftermath of the announcement that Rush Limbaugh's name has been dropped from the group bidding to purchase the St. Louis Rams NFL football team, a moment of some rational reflection on this matter might be in order.

Certainly, as both a moderate progressive with a liberal philosophy of the role of government and society in helping those who need pro-active support, and also as a minority political analyst who clearly has sensitivities to racial, ethnic, gender and lifestyle insults and attacks, I have often been most disconcerted and sometimes quite appalled by comments Rush Limbaugh has made over the years using the forum he has as a national radio talk show host and recognized spokesman for the conservative, Republican, and sometimes "right wing" position on the issues of our time.

Yet, after really considering all the various aspects of the controversy over Limbaugh's bid to become an owner of the Rams, I must say that I am far more concerned and dismayed by what Limbaugh says on the air rather than by what he does off the air. And in fact, I'm just not convinced that if, as an American citizen, he is engaging in activities in his private life that any other American could engage in without scrutiny (thus ruling out violating moral or civil laws), that we should be able to deny him that privilege to do that because of what he does in his professional, non-elected, public life. And non-elected is a key phrase in that description.

I don't have to account to any liberals who would attack me for even appearing to defend Rush Limbaugh because, in my good fortune to have had the opportunity to host my own radio show and appear frequently on both radio and television to defend liberal and progressive positions on race, politics, government, business and education, I have in fact been able to more openly confront and oppose Rush Limbaugh and many others who espouse some of his views far more frequently with far more exposure than virtually any of those who would want to attack me on this - so go ahead. What I'm trying to do here is make some sense and raise some common sense issues that those among us who like a reasoned approach to discourse can just reflect on.

To me, the arguments made against Rush Limbaugh being allowed to participate in ownership of an NFL team just seem less than totally convincing in this specific application regardless of how we might feel about him in other applications.

He is after all a successful American citizen whose only crime is that he is hated by so many of us for reckless, insensitive and polarizing comments, just as he is also loved by so many of us for motivating and inspiring a significant portion of the population who feel that he is the only one who truly understands how they feel and is courageous enough to articulate those views. See how different your description of him can be based on whether you actually agree or disagree with his political and social views on the issues.

But beyond that, do we really have the right to punish him in his own private life and family life for pursuing something that everyone of us would want to do if we could, and if we had the resources to pursue it along with the interest he clearly has in sports.

Again, if he is not a public villain certified by either registrations such as sex-offender lists or owing alimony or child support, or a convicted felon or other adjudicated determinations of that nature (the prescription pain matter has been expunged from the record), or disgraced himself in a public way that brings universal scorn (people who display themselves in public, etc.), and remember, what he does on the radio brings scorn only from those of us who disagree with him, not universally from everyone based on universally accepted societal mores and values.

And if you at least understand that point, then I just don't think we can prevent him from being part of the group attempting to purchase the team. We can certainly write letters to the current owners to express our opinion on why we don't want him involved in the team's ownership, and we can also express concerns to the NFL League office expressing our reservations as well.

But ultimately, the process should go forward as normal and it should be the decision of the current owners as to whose bid they accept, and an organized public action coordinated by Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson as if it is a core civil rights movement "call to action" just seems unjustified. Limbaugh should not have been forced out of even the process just because of who he is.

The fact is, I was much more comfortable with Limbaugh being forced to resign from ESPN's Monday Night Football game analysis team after his comments about the NFL wanting a "black quarterback to succeed" than I am with this current result. Why, because the "cause-effect" application in the Monday Night Football case looks at something he was doing as part of his public, professional life, and in that capacity, he was insulting so many fans of the game and also Americans in general and African-Americans in particular. And in that capacity, for him to continue to be part of that analysis team would only add salt to that original wound - and he should have been more sensitive - just as he should be in his current radio talk show format - with more license than he would have on the Monday Night Football format.

And as for Jesse and Al, while I often disagree with some of either their tactics or strategies, as I do here, I never refrain from pointing out how important I believe their roles have been in bringing matters of injustice and racial cross road issues to the forefront of the American consciousness. And I continue to salute them for that.

But in this case, maybe it would have been more effective and a better approach if Jackson and Sharpton had instead devoted their efforts to reaching out to wealthy Black figures such as Dick Parsons, former Chairman of Time Warner, and Kenneth Chenault, top executive and likely soon to be Chairman at American Express, and Jerry Rice, former NFL star, and others in that category and have them form a new group and pool their resources and have them outbid the Limbaugh group in a competitive heads-on competition, the kind that has really been a hallmark of America's free enterprise system which rewards competitive success, and the very same kind of competitive success we seem scared to allow to take place with our likely to be very costly refusal to include a government option in the health care reform legislation - we really do need that government option to make that plan work.

If you don't like the Limbaugh group make-up, then capitalize on the strong anti-Limbaugh fervor and form a new group with some core wealthy minority participants and then maybe open up small slots for average Americans who want to protest Limbaugh by buying into a competing group.

And as for the NFL, we have the Rooney rule, which requires teams to interview African-American coaches before hiring a new coach, and we should continue to encourage the NFL to reach out with affirmative efforts to bring more Blacks and minorities into the management ranks, and front office ranks, and ownership ranks.

But it seems to me we can't have it both ways. If we can have the NFL go out of its way and make extra outreach efforts to get more African-Americans into all ranks of participation in the NFL, even with some added leverage provided to some of these candidates, and I support that fully, then we can't also look at the other end and deny some mainstream Whites or others from at least having some equal participation opportunity when they could not be disqualified for any reasons other than people don't like their political views.

That is just going too far. But let's continue to do what the NFL is doing to promote more minority participation, and if that means real affirmative action, I support that. But let Limbaugh make his bid with his group, and then boycott his radio show, and express your disapproval, but don't prevent him from even participating in the bid effort with no universally supportable condemnable activity on his part.

And as for the argument that 70% of NFL players are Black - so what! Since when have African-American wealthy athletes been willing to take stands on important social issues where they might have made a difference? Michael Jordan openly supported Bill Bradley for President primarily because he was a basketball player who was a close friend of Jordan's - not because of Jordan's commitment on the issues. In fact, the whole attitude of Black players was best summed up by Jordan himself, when in response to a question as to why he didn't get involved in political and social issues, he responded - "Republicans buy tennis shoes too." So there you have it.

And if Black players say they don't want to play for a team owned by Rush Limbaugh, I say - Oh Yeah - where were you when the owner of the LA Clippers basketball team, Donald T. Sterling, was accused of racial discrimination in not renting to Blacks in some of his apartment buildings. I have been waiting to condemn wealthy Black players who were on Sterling's team and never took a stand, or refused to play unless that egregious activity was corrected. Those actions hurt far more than Limbaugh's ranting - and you know what, and I'm just taking a guess - but if Limbaugh owned any apartment buildings he probably would insist they didn't discriminate in any way - that would be just like him. So don't give me that "Black players in the NFL" argument - when they are prepared to stand up for themselves and use their exalted place in society to better that society, then I'll stand up for them.

The fact is, since Jackie Robinson in the 50's and 60's, and the "gloved hand" demonstration by the Black athletes at the 1968 Mexico City Olympic games, Black athletes have gotten less active and concerned about political and social issues in direct proportion to how much more wealth they are accumulating on the field.

The deed is now done, and Limbaugh is out. But how much better do you feel about that - and wouldn't you feel a lot better if instead of him being forced out, we proved just how much progress has really been made in America by seeing an African-American group formed that included Black athletes, and professionals, and wealthy entrepreneurs and businesspeople, and that group outbid the Limbaugh group. In that scenario, Limbaugh loses fairly with no greater prejudice of action shown towards him than would be shown to anyone else trying to participate in the ownership bid. And all of us win. In the current scenario that actually did play out, yes Limbaugh loses, but so do we as well. We can do better!

Carl Jeffers is a Los Angeles-and Seattle based columnist, TV political analyst, radio talk show host and commentator, and a national lecturer and consultant. E-Mail: cjintel@juno.com.

In the aftermath of the announcement that Rush Limbaugh's name has been dropped from the group bidding to purchase the St. Louis Rams NFL football team, a moment of some rational reflection on this ma...
In the aftermath of the announcement that Rush Limbaugh's name has been dropped from the group bidding to purchase the St. Louis Rams NFL football team, a moment of some rational reflection on this ma...
 
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- Flavor I'm a Fan of Flavor 65 fans permalink

I don't agree with you period. He needed not to be part owner of the rams so they decided not to have him be part owner and that was a wise decision. No, we don't need to boycott Rush but we need to boycott the radiostation that allows that filth, that comes out of his mouth.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 10/20/2009


So Carl, what you are saying is - Rush Limbaugh can make his money belittling us, then buy into an organization where he would control us, and it's ok?

You are for it? Wow. You must have more insight to this man what than he has shown in every public forum he has entered. Please share it.

Your comment on what Rush would do if he rented apartments is laughable - how do you know what he would do?

In the chances he has to show what is in his hear towards people of race - he has failed.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 10/20/2009
- urgk I'm a Fan of urgk 4 fans permalink

This is just silly.

I've written and re-written the reasons why, but it's all boiled down to the idea that of course a man who earns his living giving his opinion should be held accountable for that opinion. The Constitution provides protection against congress making any law which prohibits Limbaugh's lying, hate-filled speech, but nowhere does it say that he should suffer no social or economic repercussion for it.

While I appreciate the current popularity of surprising, contrary opinions in the media, it would raise the level of discourse if they were backed with something resembling logic.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 10/20/2009

his "friends" rejected him. I wanted him to have a team so he can see just how unpopular he is.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 10/20/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 148 fans permalink

How much better do I fell that Rush is out of the running for owning a pro football franchise? Much, much better, thank you!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 AM on 10/19/2009
- supertim I'm a Fan of supertim 16 fans permalink
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nice article mr. jeffers, but the fact is that rush was dropped from the cartel by dave checketts, a savvy sports exec with nhl experience who knows that sports are not just any business in the so called free market, but rather an entertainment venture, with all the social responsibility that entails akin to the three major networks

secondly, it was to the nfl's advantage to not expose the current plantation system they currently run with no guaranteed contracts for their (black) players, very strict free agency regs, and an almost entirely lily white overwhelmingly conservative ownership base that the league front office tries to obfuscate since "progressives buy football jerseys too"

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 10/18/2009
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 38 fans permalink

He was dropped from the group AFTER Al Sharpton's protest movement.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 10/18/2009
- iburl I'm a Fan of iburl 3 fans permalink
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And your point?? That Rush Limbaugh should be allowed to spot his crap nationwide for 4 hours a day every day, but that Al Sharpton should shut up? Since when does Al Sharpton hold sway over financiers?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 10/18/2009
- Querent I'm a Fan of Querent 61 fans permalink
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The Porcine One can say whatever he wants about black people and other minorities. In fact, I'm glad that he does, since making his racism unmistakable helps to keep his ideas in the right context.

Correspondingly, I can say whatever I want about the Porcine One's racism.

And the Commissioner of the NFL can say whatever he wants about it, including that association with the Porcine One would be a bad thing for the NFL.

And the investor's group looking to buy the Rams can say whatever they want, including that the Porcine One can't belong to their group anymore.

Free speech all around. Ain't it grand?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 10/17/2009
- DavidDial I'm a Fan of DavidDial 43 fans permalink
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Mr. Jeffers, I think it is laudable of you to protect the right of any American, regardless of how detestable they might be, to say what they please and pursue what they wish as long as they break no laws. I think you miss or misconstrue a couple of things though. One is that exercising that right brings with it certain responsibilities and the second is that every American has the same right.s and responsibilities. Given that fact, every American had every right to say whatever they felt like saying about Mr. Limbaugh's failure to live up to his responsibilities in his exercise of his right to free speech as long as they didn't break any laws in the process.

Second, you question in a couple of places whether we have the right to deny him his desire to own an NFL team just because he is a despicable gasbag and the answer is obviously no. But those of us who objected publicly and vocally to his ownership of an NFL franchise didn't deny him anything. We simply expressed our point of view. Evidently the folks who did have a right to reject his offer, his prospective partners and employees, agreed with us.

In the final analysis Mr. Limbaugh was bitten on his own big butt by his own big mouth. I find that reassuring. The law of karma has not been revoked and what goes around still comes around.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 10/17/2009


You're mistaken: Rush didn't lose this opportunity because of who he is; he lost it because of what he's done and what he continues to do.

Honestly, I couldn't be happier with the result.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 10/17/2009

And Pray tell, what has he done and continue to do , other than your feelings of great joy, 600 AM stations still carry his show, and now his 20,000,000 listeners have increased.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 10/19/2009
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 73 fans permalink
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Disagree. NFL players are totally free to express their feelings about the man who might become their boss (and who has expressed such contempt for the in the past).

People with any sense don't like Limbaugh. Plenty of good reasons for feeling that way and they said so. Boo-hoo.

All of us "liberals" and "progressives" should stay far away from rightwing talking points and instead keep the focus on one thing: Limbaugh has HIS free speech and so does EVERYONE ELSE.

If his PARTNERS believed in him, they should have fought to keep him together with them in the bidding. THEY made the decision to drop him, no one forced them into it at all. So, cry me a river, Rush.

P.S. Wanna bet that, if they GET the ownership of the team, they wind up making Limbaugh a part of the ownership after the fact? Rightwing Republicans are sneaky like that. I wouldn't be at all surprised.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 10/17/2009
- YeahDonkey I'm a Fan of YeahDonkey 7 fans permalink
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What is wrong with this situation Mr Jeffers, does it distrurb you that a radio personality is being judged for what he has said in the past?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 10/17/2009
- PNOGUY I'm a Fan of PNOGUY 8 fans permalink

Where is the proof? Where are the quotes? Not the FAKED ones which started the whole firestorm. Everyone here seems to be certain of what Rush says, but nobody listens to him. Soros has people checking every word he says. Why don't we see quotes with dates, instead of vague generalities?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 10/17/2009
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"vague generalities"? Delusional.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3928 includes your requested dates

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 10/17/2009
- DavidDial I'm a Fan of DavidDial 43 fans permalink
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What does PNO mean... Pretty Nearly Oblivious?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 10/17/2009

The rest of us lose? Speak for yourself Carl!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 10/17/2009
- ziploked I'm a Fan of ziploked 12 fans permalink
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Rush, the private citizen has made his own choices about his public persona. It is not his job to preach hate, and racial defamation--that is a choice he deliberately makes of his own free will.

Actions have consequences for all people, not just Rush Limbaugh. He got what he deserved.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 10/17/2009
- Prakosh I'm a Fan of Prakosh 195 fans permalink
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“[W]e can't have it both ways. If we…have the NFL…make extra outreach efforts to get more African-Americans into all ranks of participation in the NFL, even with some added leverage provided to some of these candidates…then we can't also look at the other end and deny some mainstream Whites or others from at least having some equal participation opportunity when they could not be disqualified for any reasons other than people don't like their political views.”

First, Rush had a participation opportunity. Second, racial prejudice and the physical appearances on which it is based aren’t commensurate with political viewpoints. Being Black, Hispanic, Asian, or White is not a political position. Hatred is also not a political position. It is an irrational emotional response. While Rush and others equate racial hatred with a political argument that is protected speech, they are wrong.

The propagation of racial hatred is something people choose to do and choices have consequences that are in large part determined by society. Currently one consequence is the ostracization from certain high profile, public, and select clubs. The owners of the NFL comprise one of those clubs. The other members of the group to which Limbaugh sought to belong, based their decision on what the other members of that exclusive group thought. That is as it should be. It wasn’t made by us it was made by them. They decided that Limbaugh’s hate speech and the person behind it had no place in an NFL owner’s box!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 10/17/2009
- Deninor I'm a Fan of Deninor 9 fans permalink

Prakosh, Are you able to supply one not-fabricated but actually, factually supported utterance of Mr. Limbaugh's "hate speech?" If you cannot supply an example of Rush' "hate speech" you are doing yourself a substantial disservice by continuing weakening any creditiblity you may have. The truth shall set you free, not innuendo and mindless repetitions of false allegations. These cheapen discourse and demean the person using them. Please source your remarks. Deninor

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 10/17/2009
- Prakosh I'm a Fan of Prakosh 195 fans permalink
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Here's the Top Ten Sourced and Ready to go!

http://newsone.com/obama/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/

Now what else you got???

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 10/17/2009
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"Reacting to a report of black students assaulting a white student on a bus (an incident that police determined was not racially motivated), Limbaugh brought in Barack Obama: "In Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, 'Right on, right on, right on". (Media Matters, 9/15/09)

" Limbaugh praised former segregationist Sen. Strom Thurmond for calling a gay soldier "not normal": "He's not encumbered by being politically correct.... If you want to know what America used to be--and a lot of people wish it still were--then you listen to Strom Thurmond." (TV show, 9/1/93, transcript archived on Nexis) In the America that "used to be," Thurmond was one of the country's leading racists, running for president in 1948 on the Dixiecrat ticket, with a platform that opposed federal anti-lynching laws and boasted the slogan, "Segregation Forever!"

"Limbaugh admitted to Newsday's Richard Gehr (10/8/90) that as a DJ in Pittsburgh in the 1970s he had once dismissed a black caller by saying, "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.""

"Discussing a Chicago inner-city schoolteacher punished for using a math question that focused on the price of prostitution and cocaine habits, Limbaugh suggested that the teacher should be credited for "understanding the culture these kids come from." The math question began: "Rufus is pimping three girls." (TV show, 5/24/94; transcript archived on Nexis)"

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 10/17/2009
- thebigbike I'm a Fan of thebigbike 2 fans permalink

gee if the football powers that be think mr limbaugh's involvement will be a financial detriment to their "industry" it just sounds like the free enterprise system at work

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 10/17/2009
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