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Not a Good Week for Big Oil

Posted: 05/20/11 08:22 PM ET

Washington, D.C. -- The Big Five oil companies -- Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, Shell, BP and Phillips -- may be hoping that the end of the world actually occurs on May 21. Then they can say proudly that they went out bloodied but unbowed. Big Oil kept $40 billion in undeserved tax subsidies, in spite of the unprecedented profits and wealth they reported this quarter. At the end of the week, their lobbyists could have stood proudly in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner, had they chosen to do so.

But in the perhaps more likely event that the world does not end on May 21, and should the oil companies end up caring about their long-term bottom lines, the future does not look so bright. After an unprecedented lobbying effort, a narrow majority of the U.S. Senate voted to end those tax giveaways. 52-48, with two Republicans, Mainers Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, breaking ranks with their Republican colleagues, and three Democrats -- Ben Nelson, Mark Begich, and Mary Landrieu -- voting with Big Oil.

Now, in the U.S. Senate -- as in horseshoes -- close counts, so the oil industry dodged the bullet. Once again the Republican minority invoked the filibuster requirement of 60 votes to block action. But once Congress comes together on a budget resolution -- which admittedly may be some time away -- a simple 51 votes can decide subsidy issues, and Big Oil is in Big Trouble.

The usual oil industry hole card -- campaign finance bribery -- has already been played. Those who voted to continue the subsidies received on average more than $370,000 in campaign gifts from oil, while those who voted against received only a fifth as much.

Perhaps more heartening was a solid rebuff of the Tea Party/Drill-Baby-Drill caucus, when the Senate voted 57-42 to reject Senator Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's "Drill-Baby-Drill" amendment, with five Republicans joining the Democrats to block McConnell's idea.

A few points stand out:

  1. Big Oil can no longer muster majorities in the Senate.

  2. The Senate rules still prevent the majority from taking even the simplest steps to solve the nation's problems.

  3. The Republican leadership in the Congress is utterly insincere in claiming to worry about the deficit. Not only are they opposed to tax increases on American billionaires, they are opposed to tax increases on the oil-producing governments of Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and Nigeria. Some of the subsidies they defend flow to foreign governments, at the expense of American taxpayers.

If the world doesn't end on May 21, keep these ideas in mind. The Drill-Baby-Drill caucus wants you to forget them.

 
 
 

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Washington, D.C. -- The Big Five oil companies -- Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, Shell, BP and Phillips -- may be hoping that the end of the world actually occurs on May 21. Then they can say proudly that they...
Washington, D.C. -- The Big Five oil companies -- Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, Shell, BP and Phillips -- may be hoping that the end of the world actually occurs on May 21. Then they can say proudly that they...
 
 
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07:46 PM on 05/23/2011
I'll believe it when it happens, they still have lots of money in their pockets.
03:08 PM on 05/23/2011
Instead of concentrating on increasing the supply people look at how much money oil companies make. So take the damn 2.1 Billion – and lets get on with drilling for more domestic supply – or get ready to pay $5-6 a gallon.

And fyi we all know who makes the most money from Oil – it’s the government not the oil companies – and always has been – and do absolutely NOTHING for it.
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Help save Big Cats from extinction!
01:41 PM on 05/23/2011
How can any republican who actively voices to cut spending be against cutting subsidies for oil? Some will use the excuse that if they cut subsides then the price of gas will go up. This is another fear tactic used by republicans to scare Americans into backing these subsides. The republicans are the same people who say we need less government and less spending. But they fail to address the FACT that government subsidies for big oil is more spending. The bottom line is that the republicans have to rely on removing facts and arithmetic when trying to pass their agenda because they constantly are contradicting themselves by making these anti government, anti spending, and anti socialist claims when their actions show otherwise. How can anyone who is anti spending and anti socialism support further government subsidies for an industry which is making record profits. It just doesn’t make any sense!
03:32 PM on 05/23/2011
“How can any republican who actively voices to cut spending be against cutting subsidies for oil? Some will use the excuse that if they cut subsides then the price of gas will go up.â€

I think they are against cutting subsidies that keep jobs in the US that all big companies get – including oil.

The real problem is not 2.1 Billion – it’s the fact that idiots in the environmental movement have cut off drilling. The increase in demand will drive prices up and cost consumers and industry hundreds of Billions. So I say. Take the damn 2 billion and lets get on with getting domestic supply up - that will have the biggest affect on the price
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Help save Big Cats from extinction!
04:25 PM on 05/23/2011
There is no proof for your statement, "I think they are against cutting subsidies that keep jobs in the US that all big companies get – including oil."

Big oil and republicans have used that excuse as well and there is no statement showing job growth within oil. Under a real capitalist economy the subsides shouldn’t exist and I am tired of the guys preaching they are true capitalist while pushing for government to step in and provide welfare for big oil companies who don’t need it. I am criticizing the republican hypocrisy of saying one thing and doing another.
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Help save Big Cats from extinction!
04:25 PM on 05/23/2011
As for the environment, I consider myself a environmentalist because the health of the plant does and will always affect human life on this plant. The healthier the environment the better it is for all of us, so it is important to value the environment. I think you are frustrated with the unrealistic environmentalists who have no concept of realistic options for America. I do support US off shore drilling ONLY if the republicans and big oil companies understand and acknowledge that there needs to be higher safety standards for them to be able to operate and that they need to prove to the American people that they are practicing these high safety standards 24/7. After what happened with the negligence of the BP spill, safety protocol should be a huge concern to everyone but the republicans are the only group trying to mandate that we dont need strict safety regulations. My questions is WHY? Why do they feel we don’t need safety regulations that protect the American people? So what if big oil has to spend a little more to provide better safety, they definitely have the money to spare?
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
03:49 PM on 05/23/2011
It's never a simple choice. Did you know that the more oil we extract here the lower our trade deficit is? The lower our trade deficit (in general) the stronger the dollar is. A strong dollar keeps oil prices relative to other nations low.

Now, did you know that big oil is only responsible for about 10% of all the new oil wells and natural gas wells drilled here in the U.S.?

Forbes Magazine recommended ending the oil tax subsidies and so did big oil in 2005. Want to know why Forbes wanted to get rid of the oil tax subsidies? Forbes said our current system was to inefficient (that's Wall Street code for needed mergers, acquisition's, and lay offs).

Now most of the drilling subsidies don't go to big oil because believe or not the AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax) per Forbes.

http://gca­ptain.com/­small-comp­anies-stay­-gulfs-dee­p?24447

Now do we really want to make Big Oil bigger?
03:04 AM on 05/23/2011
Simply put, the republicans who voted to let big oil keep their tax subsidies SUCK!

They are UN-AMERICAN, and have proven that they DON'T care about America or Americans; and they DON"T care about the national debt NO MATTER WHAT the hypocrits say.

Republicans who voted for big oil and against everyone else should be voted out in 2012!
01:00 AM on 05/23/2011
The article's author is dreaming. After the elections in 2012, the Senate will be controlled by the Reps. As it stands now, the bill mentioned must get through the House of Representatives, which is firmly controlled by the Reps. The liberals have not gotten used to the fact that their reign of terror is over! However we must get rid of some of these people who have talked the talk, but have never walked the walk of a true conservative!
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EdRea
What you do is your 'prayer'.
08:08 AM on 05/23/2011
A true conservative is a member of the tea party that wants to use the issues of balanced budget and deficit reduction as a foil for implementing a return to a pre-1960's world?
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
03:31 PM on 05/21/2011
What does it take to become Chairman of the Sierra Club? Do you need a doctorates degree in the art of half truths?

First let's just look at Carl's 1st paragraph, "Big Oil kept $40 billion in undeserved tax subsidies" where did he get this number? It's a half truth on two accounts 1st it's over 10 years but the bigger half truth is Big Oil does not get that much of the whole pie anyway! Most don't realize that there are over 300 oil companies drilling in just the Gulf of Mexico and Big Oil does not qualify for most of these tax breaks because of the Alternative Minimum Tax (ATM). Interesting article out of Forbes Magazine. FORBES was arguing to get rid of those tax breaks SO OIL COMPANIES WOULD CONSOLIDATE AND BECOME MORE EFFICIENT! That's Wall Street code for mergers and lay offs! The question is does two half truths become a LIE?

The next question becomes why would the Sierra Club be supporting Bills in congress that benefit Big Oil? Why in 2005 did all of Big Oil say it did not need the tax subsidies?

Interesting point Big oil only drills about 10% of the oil and natural gas wells in the U.S. How much happier would Big Oil be without all those competitive oil companies.

Point's to think about.
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Brett y
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08:37 PM on 05/22/2011
If you have this information, could you share links to the information with those who don't know? Where are you getting 300 other oil companies? Where do you get $40 B is a bogus number...

I could look it up myself, true, but if you've already done the research work, please share.
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
10:43 AM on 05/23/2011
Sorry, I've posted them many times before.

http://gcaptain.com/small-companies-stay-gulfs-deep?24447

as for the $40 billion it's $4 billion:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/30/tax-breaks-oil_n_855844.html
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Americanium
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01:46 PM on 05/21/2011
The US senate as it is constituted by the US Constitution is one big joke... The found fathers never envision a country as great as what the US has become. They were not visionary or they would not have given us this morbid do nothing ineffective city club as a means of passing legislation to govern a modern country.
FreeHat
Really?
12:19 PM on 05/21/2011
Does Pope mean the 'big five' oil companies that keep industry and hence our economies on a global scale, alive? Oil will go the way of the horse and carriage, wonderful at the time but outdated after a time. The green movement strikes me as one of the most inefficient catalysts for new tech. After all, they are not investing in it, they are not getting governments to invest in it - they are simply politicizing an issue that should not be politicized.
Jay Haney
My nuclear family imploded when I was 18. I've bee
12:56 PM on 05/21/2011
Did it ever occur to you that the green movement is pushing this as hard they have because private industry has shown all the enthusiasm in developing the tech that most people show for their own funeral?
03:27 PM on 05/23/2011
Private industry has shown lots of interest in alternatives. Battery development critical for future electric cars has been ongoing for decades. Same with solar and wind.

The problem is they are a couple of decades from being cost competitive except for Hybrid cars. And electric cars (if you can afford it) for short distance driving.

Our best bet for the near term, in cutting fossil fuel use is nuclear.

But the “green†movement has had an effect. The dopes effectively stopped US drilling for easily reachable offshore oil and forced the rapid expansion of dirty “tar sands†oil.

Congratulations.
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B Wood
10:21 AM on 05/22/2011
I am not prone to quote George W Bush, but didn't he say we are addicted to oil?

Does it make sense to have your drug dealer control your economic life?

One of the fatal flaws of having a puritanical view of free markets is to assume the objectives of a corporation are aligned with the public good. They aren't. They have a primary objective to maximize shareholder value. There is nothing wrong with that so long as that objective does not adversely impact society. Government does have a role in making sure this does not happen.

Define outdated? Is it when a cheaper and more efficient alternatives comes along? How do you define efficient? Typically it is viewed in a micro sense, but factor in the defense related costs and the environmental and health costs and fossil fuels are not nearly as cheap as most people believe. Oil companies do not pay for many of those costs.

Of course this is being politicized same as welfare queens are politicized. They both serve as a lightning rod to galvanize support.
03:20 PM on 05/23/2011
All applicable costs go into the price of any product. Oil companies pay Billions for land use, cleanup, etc. And the products is heavily taxed. The government makes more on oil than the oil companies.

It’s the same for any product. The idea that you can “collect†societal costs for any product and justify action is just silly.

Take steak for example. Cows produce methane (greenhouse gas) – their meat is loaded with fat and clogs arteries. The cost of this is hundreds of Billions a year in deaths and heart attacks, and other illness -. So tell me this. How much would that steak cost if we added in all the “costs†to society?

The argument is ridiculous on its face.
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mlaiuppa
Pres. Sarcasm Society. Like we need your approval.
12:00 PM on 05/21/2011
$40 BILLION.

What's the deficit again?

How much is being cut from education?
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
03:39 PM on 05/21/2011
$40 BILLION IS A BOGUS NUMBER!
10:36 AM on 05/21/2011
I do not accept this analysis as fact because votes in the senate are often arranged in such a way as to have the desired outcome while protecting its members which means allowing some senators to vote against the oil companies only because they know the desired outcome is guaranteed. The bottom line is the subsidies are safe and worse still there is no prospect anytime soon of having an actual energy policy and the republican extremists who dominate the house are pushing to defund the EPA. The giving out of permits in the gulf without the oil companies being obliged to fix their failed equipment and the cozy relationship of corrupt regulators and the oil companies is no reason to celebrate. In short the oil companies are in great shape due to wall street speculators and their continued ability to buy politicians.
Jay Haney
My nuclear family imploded when I was 18. I've bee
12:59 PM on 05/21/2011
None of that is going to matter worth a damn if the tech gets developed somewhere else by somebody other than the oil companies. They will officially be the kings of the junkyard...and the world will have left us in the dust.
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Left of Center
Left way? Right way? How about the correct way???
02:40 PM on 05/21/2011
The rest of the world has already left us in the dust...
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
03:44 PM on 05/21/2011
Talking about junkyards did you know the average age of a car before it makes it's way to the junk yard is over 20 years old? Wonder who drives those cars? Wonder if $5.00/gallon gas hurts them disproportionately more?

I drive a natural gas car, it makes our cities cleaner and cost me $0.025/mile in fuel cost compare that to a scooter or an electric car.