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Seven Billion and Who's Counting?

Posted: 06/01/11 10:21 AM ET

Aspen, CO -- The opening panel at the Aspen Environment Forum was devoted to the grim news that the UN now projects that instead of leveling out at 7 billion people, world population may well keep on climbing to 10 billion.  But behind those numbers is a world rapidly spinning off in wildly different directions.

The entire increase of 3 billion will come from a relatively small group of nations that currently have only 18 percent of the world's people -- 1.1 billion. These nations are largely in Africa, but also include Pakistan, the Philippines, Afghanistan, Haiti, and Bolivia among the major contributors. So nations with 1.1 billion people will almost quadruple their numbers by the end of the century. These are, by and large, the poorest, worst-governed, and most resource-deprived countries.

A second group of nations, which includes most of the industrial world except the U.S., plus China, Brazil, Korea, and Bangladesh, are going to have significantly smaller populations -- unless massive in migration makes up for their small family sizes.

And a third group, the U.S. plus India and Indonesia, will end the century more or less as big as they are today.

Each one of these groups of nations will face major demographic and economic challenges -- with the third group (since its age pyramid will change the least) probably facing the smallest stresses.

What's behind this striking divergence? Clearly, looking at the list, it's not religion, nor poverty, nor region.

The panelists had some differences of opinion, and voices in the audience had still other perspectives, largely on the question of how large a factor access to family planning and contraception is.

But, fundamentally, what we have playing out here seems fairly well-documented.

If most children die in childbirth, if women have no access to education or employment outside the home, then people end up having large families. They do so for simple survival -- to make sure some kids make it to adulthood. They do it because children, or at least girls, have as their main value the unskilled labor they can provide and the children they can bear. It doesn't make sense to invest in their education or advancement, because those pathways are closed. And unsurprisingly, if you think about it, women in a family in general want smaller numbers of children because they have the burden of bearing and raising them. So if women have less power in the family, then fertility rises.

But once education and outside employment for women become available, even accepted, pathways out of poverty, families face a choice: Have a smaller family and treat each child as an investment by educating them, or have a large family and forgo economic opportunity. Educated wives bring in income. Wives who bring in income have more say in family decision-making. They opt for still smaller families. All over the globe they are choosing to have fewer children. Investment, not unskilled labor, has become the preferred model for thinking about family size in a huge variety of cultures -- where those opportunities exist.

That explains the disparity between Pakistan/Nigeria and China/Korea. Education is a far more culturally ingrained pattern out of poverty in China and Korea. In large parts of Pakistan and Nigeria, education is simply not available at all.

What about the middle group of nations -- the U.S., India, and the Philippines? Ironically, and this should make Americans squirm, these are countries with partial levels of commitment to education and women's equality. In India, the disparities are largely regional -- India has some states with very low fertility, others with high family sizes. The Philippines has very unequal dissemination of educational opportunity across social classes. In the U.S., the continued prevalence of both a poorly educated underclass and a group of anti-modern, science-skeptical religious communities who reject equal opportunity for women makes us the "least developed" industrial society.

One way to react to the new UN projections is to see them as very bad news -- and a world in which the next three billion people are almost all added to the world's most desperate societies will be a very grim place. But what this study shows is that family preference is not hard-wired -- it's the result of the presence, or absence, of a few simple cultural patterns and investments -- and it shows how important it is to get education and women's opportunity right everywhere -- including here in the somewhat backward United States.

 
 
 

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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
11:48 PM on 06/02/2011
Looks like the Koch Bros. trolls have visited here.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
03:38 AM on 06/02/2011
I'm not seeing the distinction between the `poorly educated underclass' and the `anti-modern, science-skeptical religious communities'. The latter are very much an underclass, even more so for not being able to claim they are missing out on education due to lack of funds.
10:04 PM on 06/01/2011
To cut population growth build high rise buildings in poor cournties and encourage urbanisation. City people with access to education, work and TV have fewer children.
09:28 PM on 06/01/2011
And who benefits from a poorly educated underclass? Why the Democrat Politicians do. That's why this underclass will always exist.
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Ghostberry
All empty souls tend toward extreme opinions.
10:55 PM on 06/01/2011
If you turn all the numbers upside down i guess,
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TraceyES
11:01 PM on 06/01/2011
Sweetie, it's not the blue states that contain the least well educated and poorest Americans with the highest infant mortality and the lowest life expectancies.
03:40 AM on 06/02/2011
Thinking highly of yourself? Is spending themselves into oblivion (such as NY, CA, and IL are doing) a sign of rationality or a sign of irresponsible blue state politicians who are grossly overspending the tax payer's money to get re-elected? States can't print money. They must borrow when they overspend like this. As the conventional means of financing dries up the cost of borrowing goes up. Who do you think shoulders this burden? Not the politician. It's you.
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Visionary Excellence
08:12 PM on 06/01/2011
In a polarized eco system equalibrium (where large predators pick off mid sized creatures - leaving only the small and the huge) the smaller species put less energy into growth and more into reproduction. In other words, if theres no upward mobility the energy goes into child birth.

Surveys of women around the world show that women are giving birth to 30% more babies than they want. When women do not control thier own reproduction, the global growth rate will compound at a rate 30% faster. If you combine that with the US crime rate dropping after Roe v Wade (the biggest correlation for anti social behavior is being born into a family where you are not wanted) that extra 30% is going to add a chaotic/dysfunctional influence on society.
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LoneTree
Liberty is more precious than life.
07:19 PM on 06/01/2011
There are too many people today. There will be far too many people tomorrow. Our avarice, compassion, and willful self-deception are leading to the creation of an apocalyptic catastrophe. All the rest is a pretty words ... meaningless.

We have the technology, we can solve any problem! Bwahhhhaaahhhh!!! Right.
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adrianrf
Another job-creating immigrant
07:46 PM on 06/01/2011
wow - you so totally failed to engage with the information presented in the article!

great contribution: you're cynical and disengaged. ok, we geddit.
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spinotter11
Spinning through life and trying to understand it.
11:10 PM on 06/01/2011
"geddit"

What world do you inhabit, that you deform the English language so grievously? I think LoneTree understood far more than you do.
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
06:43 PM on 06/01/2011
Condemnation from the Sierra Club Gated Community elite.

"Nothing new here people, move along!"
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TraceyES
11:02 PM on 06/01/2011
If you're going to make comments that show you entirely failed to grasp the material presented, can you at least try and make SOME sense?
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
01:23 AM on 06/02/2011
The meeting happen in Aspen CO!

What do they say about Aspen? It's one of the fews places where the millionaires are being chased out by the billionaires.

The Sierra Club finds these places amenable.

Do I think we have a potential population problem, yes! Do I like the Sierra Club looking down their collective nose at many of us? Belittling us! Look at how much money per capita Red States give to charity verses the Sierra Club Snobs!

Oh, I understood. Just don't care for the messenger or his tone!
Sc** them!
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spinotter11
Spinning through life and trying to understand it.
11:11 PM on 06/01/2011
Whereas you will reproduce until population extinction no longer allows it.
06:27 PM on 06/01/2011
I think the problem is the conflict between men and women (which has been latent but is more obvious to people nowadays). Part of why people have too many children is because the parents are not able to relate to each other because of gender balkanization; they keep having children in a subconscious desire to be understood, emotionally validated, provided for - and other needs from childhood that were not met. This thus leads many people to use children for support (either emotional or financial or both), which means those children then don't get what they need in childhood.

This also means that many mothers subconsciously reject boys as "other," and do not empathize with them; nor do non-working mothers know how to mentor boys or girls in earning/providing/competing in the job market/working in organizations.

I'd like to see men step up and do more of the unpaid work and the emotional work of parenting, including taking a stand for work/family balance in the corporate world. This would then get men and women out of conflict with each other, make marriages more stable, and enable children to have real childhoods that prepare them well for adulthood. Men and women will then have children only when well-prepared to do so, not out of some misguided effort to get something they needed but didn't get as children, or needed from a spouse and can't get from him/her.
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LoneTree
Liberty is more precious than life.
07:22 PM on 06/01/2011
People in poor countries have lots of kids because the kids will take care of the parents in old age.

People in rich countries have lots of kids because, well ... they don't have lots of kids, do they?

You've taken yourself out of the real conversation, which is about how much longer mankind has left before overpopulation goes off seven different ways and results in The Slow Armageddon.
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MarcEdward
likes all cats more than most people
06:00 PM on 06/01/2011
Nothing nature cannot handle with the tried and true tools of famine, disease and war.
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popworld7
Doing the doomsday dance
05:50 PM on 06/01/2011
The more the merrier right?

Most people walking around on the planet right now don't have a clue what is going to happen with population growth and climate change in the future. Most think oil is the resource that is really going to impact the planet (it is) but clean drinking water is the real issue.

What do you mean - I can go buy it at the local store?

It is going to get very, very ugly.

I think the U.S. should stop giving tax credits for people having kids myself.
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LoneTree
Liberty is more precious than life.
07:24 PM on 06/01/2011
Native born American citizens are not reproducing fast enough to replace themselves. The only reason was are at 2.12 is because of immigrants and immigration. Europe is already shrinking, and some ethnicities (Russia, a few others) may be past the tipping point and unrecoverable.
08:27 AM on 06/02/2011
Good point. Some things often not mentioned - the demographic suicide of Europe. Good point, too, about America. Were it not for immigrants, we would be following the same course. As for countries like China, yeah. Population control at the end of a sword. The attitudes we have toward humanity and population mirror the attitudes Europe had about the same subjects at the dawn of the 20th century. Many of the famous 'incidents' from that century came from the idea of 'too many of you, just enough of me' that Europeans had cultivated. We would do well to learn from that mistake before repeating it again.
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fb0252
05:16 PM on 06/01/2011
usa add 100 million underclass earned income tax credit baby in next decade. mark this down.
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legalclubs
04:36 PM on 06/01/2011
There are several major flaws with the cause and effect premise suggested in the article. That because the United States has a stable population that the cause must be the U.S. having a low committment to women's education and women's equality does not logically follow.

First, if anything, every recent study shows that females in the United States are doing better than males in the United States at every grade level, college, and now even in advance degree programs. One can hardly claim that women's education oppurtunities are oppressed in the United States when the results show the exact opposite.

Second, the author's premise relies on the idea that, on average, more educated women have fewer children than less educated women, so a country that doesn't have a falling population must have inequality and a lack of oppurtunity for education in comparison to a country with a falling population. Let's assume that's true. One problem. The population of the United States, unlike 99% of all other countries, is heavily impacted by immigration. Without immigration we would very much fall in line with many countries in Europe. The author's entire premise is faulty. If you bought his theory, at the very least it should compare birth rates of citizens from one country to the next, not population growth.

I could go on and on, but I'm out of room. Needless to say, this article needs some more work.
05:19 PM on 06/01/2011
sharp thinking.
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deluk
disgusted.
05:33 PM on 06/01/2011
Which countries?..The EU countries are just as impacted by immigration as the USA, have you ever been to London?.. forget about NYC being a melting pot.....
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legalclubs
06:49 PM on 06/01/2011
First let me point out that London is not a country, it's just one city. So while true that London under the EU system now has allot of foreign born individuals calling London home, overall the immigration into the United Kingdom is actually quite low (about one-half) compared to the United States. In addition, many European countries have very strict immigration policies and just as importantly these policies are efficiently enforced so the immigration rates in these places are close to zero.

For example, the United States has an annual net increase due to immigration of 4.31 immigrants per 1000 in population giving the U.S. a signficiantly higher percentage of population increase due to immigration then the European powerhouses like the UK (2.16), Germany (2.19), and France (1.48). Keep in mind that these countries get more immigration than the average European country (many are negative) as these are where the better jobs are and where people immigrat to from the rest of Europe to work. Basically you are looking at immigration per population rates in the U.S. that are basically much more than double than the average European rate.

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?t=0
03:42 PM on 06/01/2011
"In the U.S., the continued prevalence of both a poorly educated underclass and a group of anti-modern, science-skeptical religious communities who reject equal opportunity for women makes us the "least developed" industrial society."

A bit of an overstatement, but none-the-less a concern in these times of wealth disparity and conservative retrenchment. We need to get our priorities straight and recognize that high quality human life is the most important investment that we can make. We must create with care and forethought and nurture with unbreakable determination :-) We must take responsibility for the human race. We can't leave our fate to the whims of chance (or religious speculation).........never have, never will :-)
05:26 PM on 06/01/2011
dems are not very nuanced at all.

Just because some religions view men and womens roles in the family and in their church as being different does not mean they are hillbillies and believe women should be uneducated rubes.

You are an simple minded ignorant fool to believe that.
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TraceyES
11:05 PM on 06/01/2011
"Just because some religions view men and womens roles in the family and in their church as being different does not mean they are hillbillie­s and believe women should be uneducated rubes."

Funny, I don't hear those women who were 'assigned' their roles by religion crowing over how joyous is it quite as loudly as you do. Turn around...the womenfolk ain't enjoying doing the washing up anymore, Buddy.
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doubleB
03:20 PM on 06/01/2011
Per Thomas Friedman's "Hot, Flat and Crowded", if you define an "Americum" as a unit of energy with 350 million people with a per capita income similar to the US and a penchant for consumerism... sometime in the latter half of the 20th century, there were 2 Americums - the US and Europe. Now, China constitutes another Americum and is pregnant with a 2nd, due sometime in the next decade or so. India constitutes another Americum. Parts of the developing world, including parts of Africa, South America, and Asia will give birth to a few more.

So basically, we will have tripled our population, but quadrupled (or more) our consumption, mainly due to globalization. Who can argue with a poor country that wants to bring itself out of poverty? The US can hardly be one to throw stones... but it magnifies the real problem we face. If we're consuming double what our planet can sustainable provide, imagine what it'll be like 20 years from now when globalization is in full swing, and population finally starts leveling off.
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
03:05 PM on 06/01/2011
It blows the mind. For most of human history, the world population was almost stable. Then, in the past few centuries (especially the past 200 years), the population exploded. Getting in control of infectious diseases was initially good for us, but as a result we've done more damage than we could have ever imagined.
04:05 PM on 06/01/2011
"Fixed nitrogen" will go down as the most catastrophic discovery in the history of humanity. Without it the world population would have stabilized at roughly 3.7 billion. When the Haber-Bosch Process was developed, the lid came off the petrie dish.
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bad spelling grammar
Help save Big Cats from extinction!
04:12 PM on 06/01/2011
Every person is alive today because of mans discovery and use of OIL!