Cecile Richards

Cecile Richards

Posted: October 2, 2008 10:21 AM

Women's Health: Yet Another Issue Sarah Palin is Out of Touch On

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Over the last several weeks, it has become apparent that Sarah Palin is out of touch on a whole host of issues, ranging from the bailout and the economy to foreign policy to the Supreme Court. After this week's interview with Katie Couric, we can now add women's health to the list.

Her answers on reproductive health issues, such as criminalizing abortion, exceptions for rape and incest, and what exactly the morning-after pill is, were a rambling mix of contradictions and platitudes, much like her answers about Russia bordering Alaska, the bailout, health care, and the economy.

So, for the vice-presidential debate tonight, here's what I'd ask Sarah Palin to answer directly:

1. You said in your interview with Katie Couric that you are "all for contraception," but then you said you don't support the morning-after pill. Do you know that the morning-after pill IS contraception, it's simply a higher dose of hormonal birth control? Now that you know that, does it change how you feel about it being made available?

2. You said that abortion should be illegal even in the cases of rape or incest, but then you said no one should end up in jail for having an abortion. I assume when you say it should be illegal, that you mean it should be a crime - if you don't think anyone should go to jail, how would you enforce it?

3. You say that you believe there is an inherent right to privacy in the Constitution, yet you want to overturn Roe v. Wade, which is based on a right to privacy. How do you reconcile these two conflicting beliefs?

4. You say that you support abstinence-only policies, which have been proven over and over to be ineffective. Then you seem to contradict yourself, saying that you are "pro-contraception." What exactly are you for, comprehensive sex education, which includes teaching of abstinence as well as contraception and prevention; or "abstinence-only until marriage," which typically does not cover contraception. As vice president, would you like to continue President Bush's legacy in funneling millions of federal dollars to ineffective "abstinence-only" programs, or do you support comprehensive sex education programs that include abstinence and have proven to reduce the number of teen pregnancies?

5. Will you continue to cut funding for support of young mothers? After cutting funding by 20 percent for Covenant House Alaska, a place with the resources and assistance to help teen mothers gain the necessary skills to create a stable life, will you extend this to the rest of young, low-income mothers in the U.S.?

6. Considering all of these things, would you say that the women of America will have a champion in Sarah Palin as vice president?

We thought it couldn't get more anti-choice and more extreme for women and for health care than George Bush and John McCain. But let's face it -- with Sarah Palin, John McCain has outdone himself. Women voting for McCain-Palin is like chickens voting for Col. Sanders. That is not a risk we can afford to take.

Sign our letter today -- tell Sarah Palin that she is not your candidate.


Over the last several weeks, it has become apparent that Sarah Palin is out of touch on a whole host of issues, ranging from the bailout and the economy to foreign policy to the Supreme Court. After t...
Over the last several weeks, it has become apparent that Sarah Palin is out of touch on a whole host of issues, ranging from the bailout and the economy to foreign policy to the Supreme Court. After t...
 
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It's also interesting how Pro-Choice people have no problem murdering unborn children, but oppose the death penalty for murderers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 10/02/2008

Slow down, there, RJN16. I am a life-long pro-choice advocate, who is also liberal in many of my other views, but I DO happen to believe in the death penalty. Stop trying to generalize things so much - life and people are more complex than you are acknowleding.

So...now that you know that there is at least one pro-choice advocate out here who DOES support the death penalty for murderers (and rapists, too, btw)....how interesting do you think things are now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 10/03/2008

I only have one question - but it is one that I haven't seen answered yet. Why are so many 'pro-life' people also in favor of the death penalty and war - those two things are definitely NOT pro-life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 10/02/2008
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I don't get why the protesting RTL's don't pony up to the bar, get training and become foster parents to the children of families who really could not afford to feed another mouth. Heck, give these struggling mothers some assistance so they can care for their children and maintain family.

How does anyone formulate the impression that a woman decides to have an abortion on a whim or because it's the easier, softer way? I am tired of RTL saying abortions are anyone's primary form of birth control. Women have them because they are not able to either carry a child to term or are unable to face raising that child without the resources necessary.

I don't see RTL rallies gathering checks that will pay insurance, day care, education, food and clothing for these unborn babies they are bound and determined deserve the right to live. HUH? I do not see folks supporting the children who are here and are in severe need. Why don't the children who are at risk for being part of our HEINOUS Infant Mortality Rate deserve every intervention to PREVENT death after they have been born?

Actually, I think that women of child bearing age should have prenatal vitamins, just in case. We need to make sure they are eating properly, just in case. We need to dig in and treat all women as if they are pregnant or may become pregnant, just in case. This would be a true demonstration of love and humanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 10/03/2008

Whenever the subject of the legality of abortion comes up, I see a number of people posting about how innocent children are being murdered, and that that is criminal. I always wonder why these "pro-life" posters ignore the innocent children that have been and are still being killed or crippled and maimed for life in this criminal war that we are so reluctant to end in Irag. Try to be honest about it - you cannot be "pro-life" and "pro-war".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 10/02/2008

There is no such thing as "pro war". There is a thing called national defense. We are not in Iraq because we like war. we are in Iraq because it is necessary. More women and children in Iraq have been killed by Iraqis than by U.S. soldiers. It is Iraqis and foreign fighters that have targeted civilians. Not U.S. soldiers. It is Iraqis and foreign fighters that have used children for shields. Not U.S. soldiers. It is Iraqis and foreign fighters that have attacked U.S. soldiers from schools and mosques. Not U.S. soldiers. U.S. soldiers are not murdering children, unlike Iraqis and and other foreign fighters. So if you want to make this comparison go right ahead. One has nothing to do with the other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 10/02/2008
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Yeah, those hijackers were all evil Iraq citizens. We showed that country they shouldnt support terrorists.
Iraq did not attack us. We invaded them under false pretense. George Bush lied to the US public. Some of us knew better. Others went along for the ride.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 10/03/2008

Iīm totally agree with you, and I would add that if pro-live people are so paternalist with the society, taking care of our no-born babies.
Why they donīt take care of born babies with a free medical insurance, for example?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 AM on 10/03/2008
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DONCHA just love the InternetZzzz and the ability to make online donations? I wish I would have paid attention to the pages for PLANNED PARENTHOOD. I forgot to make mine in Sarah's name. Oops. Guess I'll have to make another one. Glad I have my credit card number memorized.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 10/02/2008

I can't help but be amused that you have a man in the debate with a record of working on behalf of women's rights and fighting for their protection and then you have a woman in the debate that has done almost every conceivable thing to limit or erase any help for women and doesn't seem to recognize women are as equal as men.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 10/02/2008

I am so sick of these people saying what a wonderful impression Palin made reading a speech written for her by Bush speech writers at the RNC. She obviously can read from a tele-prompter, but when you get to the real Sarah and ask her real questions; it is a different Sarah; void of knowledge, with tunnel vision, and fully capable of lying without any hesitation. When you look at her record on issues that are important to women, she fails miserably!

No to McCain/Palin, no way, never!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 10/02/2008

I got news for you. No one writes their own speeches and that includes Barack Obama. Do you honestly think he sat down and took the time to write his own speech? You don't think he has paid speech writers on his staff? You don't thin Barack Obama reads from a teleprompter? Murdering children must be important to women. Having the federal government pay for your child care must be important to women. No responsibility. Just pass it all to the federal government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 10/03/2008
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Palin writing another Saturday night live script tonight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 10/02/2008
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It is about time someone started asking these questions. HURRAY!

"1. You said in your interview with Katie Couric that you are "all for contraception," but then you said you don't support the morning-after pill. Do you know that the morning-after pill IS contraception, it's simply a higher dose of hormonal birth control? Now that you know that, does it change how you feel about it being made available?"

How is contraception that interferes with a fertilized egg implanting in the endometrial tissue any different than a mechanical abortion a few weeks later?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 10/02/2008
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First, the "morning-after" pill is taken as a precaution; there is no way to measure if fertilization has or even will take place. Because of that, doctors do not define a woman as pregnant until after implantation has taken place. That's a pretty big difference over a precedure a few weeks later.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 10/02/2008

I don't think either Couric or Palin specified exactly what types of contraception they were referring to, though. While most rational people consider hormonal birth control to be contraception, there ARE people - unfortunately quite a few - that consider it to be no different than a mechanical abortion. Hormonal birth control doesn't necessarily prevent fertilization (although it may), but even if fertilization occurs, implantation does not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 10/02/2008

Because the egg will not implant -- just a guess. It is a fertilized egg but it doesn't implant. Since it doesn't implant, it can not even become a fetus. With an abortion, you have an embryo that has implanted. Just my opinion.

You could say that all those petrie dishes full of embryos that are not implanted in a woman but are thrown away are aborted. But then, where are you gonna find the millions of women who want to be implanted with them? And where are you gonna put all these millions of babies? If the egg does not implant in the woman and she doesn't carry the baby to term and miscarries is it an abortion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 10/02/2008

Life begins at conception not at implantation to the uterine wall. Contraception PREVENTS the fertilization of an egg. It doesn't kill an already fertilized egg. You are correct. Throwing away viable embryos is a travesty and should not be allowed. And for your information, in the medical field, miscarriages are classified as abortions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 10/02/2008
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But some people believe that life began at conception and should not be interrupted. If you accept the reality of hormonal birth control, you have to accept that by taking them, you are possibly ending a life? Correct?

Sigh, then it gets complicated. I have no problem with hormonal birth control methods. I have no problem trashing trays and freezers full of embryos. Well, i'd rather they go to stem cell research. I don't like the idea of abortions somehow being a form of birth control (I do not believe this fallacy anyhow). Since I don't have a problem using hormones to end a pregnancy/prevent implantation and can't pinpoint the gestational age when CLICK, it's too late and this is a life with rights, how can I tell anyone when they are wrong to seek an abortion through D&C or another method?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 10/03/2008

A woman said it best last night on The Daily Show: At least it's a woman who has made the choice to take away a woman's freedom of choice.

Me, I think "woman's freedom of choice" is sheer narcissism. When did you ever hear men moaning and whining about "men's freedom of choice"? And you won't hear it, because women do not believe in men's freedom of choice. You feminists still want us to be second class citizens. It was never about equality.

Men have two choices in life: work or prison. Women have the choice of work or living off a man's work. Even if you don't make that choice, it is always an option (unless you hate men so much that you can't pretend long enough to get one). I'll know sexual equality has been achieved when women quit whining about acquiring options that men can never have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 10/02/2008
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gosh, i'm sorry you're so bitter (that clearly no woman has ever offered you a "househusband" position), but i hate to inform you that MANY women have no man to "live off of" and if all our choices were guys like you, it's no wonder. i have NEVER had the choice to live off of anyone, nor have i ever considered it an "option." It may come as a shock to you but i have no problem getting along with men & in my experience, it's the Men who do the most "pretending." nevertheless, and granted this is a moot argument, but if men had to carry/birth babies, this issue wouldn't even exist, plain and simple. when you have those abilities (i.e., Responsibilities), then your "input" might be a little more meaningful. until that wonderful day comes, however, perhaps you should just stick to making your wife's life miserable, assuming you've managed to Pretend (to actually like and respect women) long enough to find one. Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 10/02/2008

Well since 95% of rapists are men I would say there are plenty who think they have "freedom of choice".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 10/02/2008
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Poverty is about narcissism, huh? As is dying in childbirth, huh? And I've heard plenty of men whine about if having a kid was their idea or not and women who were compelled to do whatever said man wanted.

And you forgot about male prostitutes, like that doofus that killed Versace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 10/02/2008

It is a sad day when Saturday Night Live's writers don't even have to come up with new lines and can just use direct, actual quotes from this woman and still garner the most laughs in the history of the show. I pray that we don't end up the laughing stock of the world, but then again I think it's already too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 10/02/2008

JFK and RFK ( according to religious beliefs ) didn't believe in ABORTION ----- or BIRTH CONTROL and thought homosexuality a SIN. So do many ELECTED officials. THey are supposed to keep religious views out of GOVT. Millions of USA citizens too agree with Sarah's beliefs.

WHAT's the BIG DEAL here about Sarah Palin ??? She doesn't decide anything anyway----and all this is PARROT talk by the Obama group to SCARE people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 10/02/2008

That was also 45 years ago and before women had much standing in American life besides the right to vote in elections, and when women with jobs outside the home let alone careers were a rarity.

I'm in no hurry to go back to the bad old days, thank you. I'm far too much of a reality-based feminist to relinquish hard-won rights. Palin's views ARE extreme for 2008. There are men in Saudi Arabia who wouldn't insist that a woman be forced to bear the child of a man who raped her or in cases of incest. Sarah wouldn't make an exception for a hypothetical teenaged girl carrying her own father's baby.

Thanks, but a great big NO THANKS! In her own right, Palin is a Bridge to Nowhere.
Obama/Biden '08 because I want my NEXT president to be Reality-Based.
Sarah Palin: The Great Leap Backward in High Heels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 10/02/2008

I think what you may have ment to say was
" they didn't condone abortion or birth control"
i don't believe in dragons or unicorns.
abortion and birth control happen. period.
as far as assuming what RFK and JFK believed........ you need to back off
you have absolutely no idea what they believed.
read the article...... being pro life is more than being anti abortion.
in ms palin's case it seems to be anti mother also.
what with cutting funding to young mothers by 20%
pro life...... what a joke.
it is a hot button issue to get people to the polls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 10/02/2008

The government is not responsible for taking care of you. Plain and simple. Funding to young mothers should be cut by 100%. It's not my responsibility as a tax payer to take care of someone else's kid when we don't even hold the fathers responsible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 10/02/2008

What's the big deal? Let's see, we have someone with extreme religious views who apparently feels that it is her duty to force her beliefs on the entire nation. That someone is running for the second highest elected office in the land, the proverbial "heartbeat away from the presidency." That someone is the running mate to the candidate that is trying to become the oldest man ever elected to the office, someone with a history of bad health, including metastatic melanoma. It is not an implausible scenario that if the McCain/Palin ticket were elected, Palin would end up President. And whoever is elected president in this election will almost without a doubt nominate at least one, if not more, justices to the Supreme Court.

Last time I checked, the Supreme Court does occasionally make decisions that make have some small effect on life in the United States.

And THAT is the big deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 10/02/2008

Really? Name one religious view she has sought to impose on the entire nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 10/02/2008

Abortion is not a religious issue, it's scientific fact that a fertilized egg is a human being, therefore, killing one is murder. You can no more believe that a fertilized egg is not a human being than you can believe that the sky is purple. Anyone who tells you that they can separate this fact from their beliefs is either ignorant or a liar. Since we're talking about politicans, it could go either way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 10/03/2008
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What people forget is that, among the right-wing evangelical Christians upon whom Palin depends for unthinking adoration, PRAYER is the answer to just about every social problem. Poor health care? Ask god to heal you... High gas prices? Ask god to give you a hand on that Alaskan pipeline... Prayer is the answer. Oh, yeah, and capital punishment, too...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 10/02/2008
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Do men realize what will happen to them if abortion becomes illegal in this country? Do men realize that they can look forward to 18 years (minimum) of child support if the option of abortion is no longer available to the women they impregnate?
Whenever the anti-choice crowd throw out the numbers for how many abortions are supposedly performed each year, I can't help but wonder how the states and the federal government would have been able to support that many children, most of whom were the children of the poor. I can tell you right now that if abortion is made illegal in this country, the states and the fed will have to find a way to enforce child support by the fathers.
Women will not be the only ones who will suffer if abortion becomes illegal. Men will pay the price, too. And yes, so will children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 10/02/2008

That's a pretty sick argument for pro-choice. Men don't support the end of abortion, you'll have to pay for those kids! It's not hard to wonder why some in the pro-life crowd think pro-choice means pro-death! Keep it simple. Pregnancy can lead to a wide variety of medical and social impacts for a woman and no one has the right to weigh and opine on those decisions but the woman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 10/02/2008

Pro life people tend to bring up images of tiny finger nails and chubby cheeks when talking about abortions - something you might want to think about while supporting Sarah Palin who believes it's ok to abort said well formed child if the life of the mother is in danger. Not all life threatening pregnancies become so in the beginning!

Another confusion is that all Pro Choice people are pro abortion. I might never consider the option for myself, but realize that my life has been an easy one. I have never been raped, suffered incest, been homeless, been on welfare, been a single mom, been unable to afford childcare, been a runaway on the streets. What right do we have to decide that all abortions are for convenience only? 15% of abortions are requested by young women "with fundamentalist backgrounds" (I'll look up the study & post) meaning these girls are more afraid of their parents than their God. Something to think about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 10/02/2008

Also, for all the men out there who "know what it means", you might want to consider your sons in your decision making. Should Roe v Wade be reversed with the exception of rape and incest, what do you think will happen? Every high school girl who gets pregnant will be taking her boyfriend to court - or choosing the unlucky boy whos parents can not afford a lawyer- to "prove" they've been raped.

If ANY exceptions are to be allowed, Roe v Wade must stand. Our nation does not need to become further split - the haves from the have nots. Reversing Roe will hurt only the poor, as the wealthy will be able to jet off to wherever to "fix" things. Turning the US into another China is not the thing to do - the Chinese forced to not have children, the US forced TO have children. BABIES SHOULD NOT BE A PUNISHMENT!

If your beliefs keep you from making that choice, by all means follow your faith. But do not presume to make the decision for those who's circumstances might be very different from yours. God is certainly more forgiving than those who worship him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 10/02/2008

You see, that is a problem. You see these children as nothing but a burden to the government. So therefore the excuse to kill them is warranted in your mind. Right now I see the fact that I am forced to pay for abortions through my federal income tax as a burden. It is so twisted that my head is spinning. It is not the government's problem any more than my kids are your problem. Although in recent days it seems it, this is not a communist or socialist country.

The whole reason why there are so many births out of wedlock is in part due to abortion. Sex is seen as nothing more than fun with the old "Friend with benefits". The whole machine has created an imbalance in the fabric of our society. Men are no longer men, they are wandering sperm donors. Woman are sperm banks and only allow the "wanted" child when it seems convenient through the gateway of abortion. Read up on the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, and you will find she has more in common with unsavory characters in our history then she does with the pro-life Susan B. Anthony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 10/02/2008
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I worked in Foster Care system also. WE HAD TO BEG PEOPLE to take kids who were alive and kicking into thier homes. Put your money and your open arms where your mouth is! RIght to life my asp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 10/02/2008
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You're not living in the real world. This is twisted logic along the lines of arguing that birth control boosts the birth rate. You apparently do not believe that a woman should have the ability to control her own biological destiny, huh? Does the state get to control that or does her father/husband or brother?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 10/02/2008

You're not paying for abortions through your federal income tax dollars. Federal tax money cannot be used for abortion. It can't even be used to mention the WORD abortion.

Your kids aren't my problem, and it's not my decision whether you have one or a dozen. Feel free. But my children - or decision not to have children - isn't any of YOUR business, either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 10/02/2008

"Do men realize what will happen to them if abortion becomes illegal in this country?"

Yeah we do know what will happen----a fetus will be given the equal rights to life that it deserves. People who would kill another human being will be brought to the justice they deserve. Everyone involved in the deaths of innocent children would be sent to prison.

And this is a problem.....why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 10/02/2008

"People who would kill another human being will be brought to [the] justice they deserve. Everyone involved in the deaths of innocent children would be sent to prison"

I suppose you're okay with the death penalty though, and an illegal war, which coincidentally, has killed thousands of innocent children. Killing is okay, just so long as you personally feel it's justified. I suppose the right to life ends at birth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 10/02/2008

Almost 1/3 of the women in this country get antepartum and postpartum care for themselves and their babies paid for by MEDICAID. Over 1/2 of those women work for big companies like Burger King, McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Manpower, Kelly Services and Walmart.

So if you vote for a party that regularly tries to cut funding for Medicaid, school lunch programs, WIC and Head Start, you aren't really "PRO-LIFE" you're really just "ANTI-ABORTION"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 10/02/2008
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Please explain how a right to life person sees hormonal birth control? Since they (BC)have three actions on a woman and one of those is a visibly less vascular endometrium which precludes implantation of an embryo/zygote/fetus baby with rights, how is this different from a mechanical abortion that is administered weeks later?

If life begins at conception and fetal rights do too, why is it all right for a woman to use hormonal birth control?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 10/02/2008

Why is it such a threat to you if I choose not to give birth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 10/02/2008

I take it you are going to quit your job, train to be a law enforcement agent and clone yourself, because we are going to need a LOT of law enforcement to stop every abortion out there. Except a couple of years down the road you'll be complaining that your tax dollars go to their salaries and govt benefits (very well paid, may I add) instead of your pocket.
Or better yet, you are currently in the process of adopting an unwanted, but unaborted child, and are actively involved in supporting and promoting foster care in your church and your neighborhood. And talking to young men and women about the ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies (abstinence included). What, no? Somehow I am not surprised.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 10/06/2008

"You say that you believe there is an inherent right to privacy in the Constitution, yet you want to overturn Roe v. Wade, which is based on a right to privacy. How do you reconcile these two conflicting beliefs?"

That's a softball. The right to privacy does not override the right to life. You can't kill an innocent human being in the name of privacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 10/02/2008
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The Supreme Court begs to differ.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 10/02/2008

The supreme court is wrong and will overturn itself. One day, our children will learn about the holocaust your party has supported and will look on 'womens health' supporters with the disgust reserved for the pro-slavery crowd of the civil war days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 10/02/2008
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The right is to privacy of decisions between a medical practitioner and their patient. It is my decision to deal with the consequences of failed prevention, or a choice that will impact me for my entire life. It is my decision whether finding out that a genetic aberation has been passed on will cause me to choose to stop the pregnancy. It is my decision which birth control I use. I do not go to Catholic doctors because they do not believe in prescribing the medications I want to take. If I got into trouble during labor and delivery, they are going to choose my baby over me. It's my opinion when my body begins a life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 10/02/2008

If this were so patently obvious, everyone would agree with you. They don't. Hence, this is your opinion, not a fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 10/02/2008

Facts do not depend on belief. So your logic is flawed. Just because someone disagrees with a fact doesn't mean it is no longer a fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 10/02/2008
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Is the "right to life" in the Constitution? Jefferson in the Declaration is talking about men already born, not fetuses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 10/02/2008

Fetuses are alive. They have a heart beat and they are growing. You honestly think Jefferson would support abortion? I think you're sadly mistaken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 10/02/2008

Actually, the literal words in the declaration say we have "the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". Notice that "life" is first on the list. The bill of rights also has other rights explicitly written in it---like the right to bear arms.

Isn't it funny how liberals like to ignore things in the founding documents that are actually written by the founding fathers themselves? Then they like to invent new "rights" that are nowhere to be found, like the right to "privacy", "freedom of choice", "affordable housing", "free health care", "education", etc.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 10/03/2008

Should she somehow make it to the presidency we would be the laughing stock of the whole world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 10/02/2008

And that's important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 10/02/2008
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"would be" ? I guess you don't have any friends from foreign countries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 10/02/2008

I have many friends from foreign countries and I can emphatically state that you have no idea what you're talking about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 10/02/2008

No, an Obama presidency would make us a laughing stock. There's a reason the rest of the world likes him----he's naive and malleable. He's a pushover who can be easily manipulated to do THEIR will. That is a trait I don't want to see in a President, regardless of his party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 10/02/2008
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