"3:10 to Yuma" is Not Gay

Posted September 17, 2007 | 04:55 AM (EST)



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As soon as I admitted that I love Russell Crowe and Christian Bale - and that I would definitely see 3:10 to Yuma just because they're in it - I knew I was going to get the homoerotic tag. Now, I hear from Nick Antosca, blogging here at Huffington Post, that the whole movie is homoerotic.

I guess anyone who likes Westerns or cool actors is secretly gay. In fact, all cowboy movies and movies starring cool actors are gay. In fact, everything in the whole wide world is gay.

I'm sorry but I gotta call bullshit on that. Just because you think Christian Bale is a forceful actor that is really fucking intense doesn't mean you want to have anal with him.

The pseudo-psychobabble set (is there really such a "set") would now say, "Look at his use of the word "forceful" in that sentence, and then he makes his intentions really obvious when he says "fucking intense." Indeed! This guy is 100% secretly gay."

Now, I am going to go over the top and say something that sounds completely un-PC. Part of what makes Christian Bale's character so cool and so manly is that there is no way in the world he would lean over and kiss Russell Crowe in that movie. Not in a million years.

The reason that is "cool" is because his whole character is the epitome of masculinity and he does a great job of delivering on that. In another context, a gay character, of course, can be just as "cool" for other reasons. Omar in The Wire is a perfect example. Omar is the coolest character in a series full of incredibly cool characters and he is openly gay. But that's not what was happening in 3:10 to Yuma.

On the larger point about straight guys, maybe people live in a different world than I do, but I have never had the urge to kiss another guy, no matter what the situation is. So, I don't get it when people assume that otherwise straight guys in intense situations always want to make out. That's not the way straight guys think.

Now, you can argue that there are no straight guys and that I am full of shit and every other guy who claims to be straight is also full of it. And that we are all secretly into our homoerotic fantasies. But you would be wrong. We do not want to kiss other guys. And in 3:10 to Yuma Christian Bale and Russell Crowe did not want to make out. They had respect for each other. I remember a world where that was possible without guys secretly wanting blow one another.

I know what every single person who disagrees with this diatribe is thinking right now - what are you so worked up about? I wonder what that indicates!

Just calm down. If I wanted to pull a Larry Craig and hide something, I certainly wouldn't write a whole blog about it. It is possible to have an opinion on this matter without "secretly" thinking anything. I know the critics won't believe that - because, I know ... everyone is gay. If you even mention the topic or suggest in any way that you are not gay, well, then you've just proven you're gay.

I am also not going to bother telling you how pro-gay rights I am or how many of my best friends are gay because then I'd be falling into the trap of being defensive again, right?

I will, however, tell you that 100% ironically, I have made the argument before that everyone is gay. Partly gay that is. I don't believe that people are either 100% straight or gay (though apparently they can be 100% ironic). I believe there is a gay-straight spectrum and that we all fall somewhere on that spectrum. You can read more about my brilliant and fabulous theory on the gay-straight spectrum here.

So, even according to me, we are all somewhat gay and somewhat straight. Now, will you believe that I am not anti-gay or paranoid that someone is going to accidentally think I'm gay? Probably not, but I'll soldier on anyway.

I got into this huge argument in law school with one of my professors about gays in the military. We were both for gays in the military but she insisted that straight guys were being paranoid and that gay guys would never check out straight guys in the shower anyway. And I said, "That's fucking ridiculous."

I know as a guy that there are no limits to what we will think sexually in the dark recesses of our male minds. And if you put me in a shower with naked, hot lesbians, it's not like I would think, "Oh, they're not straight, so I'm not interested. I won't even bother looking." Even though I agreed with her about the overall topic, that point was wrong -- and someone had to tell her.

That's a long way of saying that I believe some arguments should be made for the principle of it and frankly, to enlighten people. So, let me enlighten you (if you didn't hate me by now, that sentence had to clinch it). There are guys who do not want to kiss other guys. Not everything is homoerotic subtext. Some guys in cowboy movies do not want to fuck each other.

I saw 3:10 to Yuma (in fact, you can see my unsophiscated review of it here) and I never once thought, "Wow, those guys are into each other. I bet they want to grab each other's asses and neck all night long." Assuming that is ridiculous. I think they respected each other and that was the whole point of the fucking movie.

On the other hand, Ben Foster's character had clear gay undertones and even overtones. If someone argued that he wanted to make out with Russell Crowe's character, then I'd be buying what you're selling. But as for the rest of the movie, can you please just go to a movie once and not assume every man in the movie is secretly gay?

Watch The Young Turks Here (And See if You Can Spot the Homoerotic Subtexts)

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- 1will See Profile I'm a Fan of 1will permalink

Sometimes a movie is just mindless entertainment.
If I had to find some point that 3:10 to Yuma made it would be about acting like a man. Christian Bales character set a good example for his sons, tried to provide for his family and lived his life with honor. He worked hard and tried to overcome his setbacks. The man showed courage and dignity. What's sad is that doesn't compare with whether or not his character was unconciously gay in today's society.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 AM on 09/26/2007
- film381 See Profile I'm a Fan of film381 permalink

Obviously all of Nick Antosca's culture is in a Petrie dish. By his view on 3:10 to Yuma he shows a huge lack of understanding what really makes up a movie. By the way... where does he get off thinking he is a film critic and for the final coup de gras... His view on this movie is in STARK contrast to what the overall population thinks of the movie. Soooooooooo, what he thinks carries NO WEIGHT in the stream of things.
Besides... anyone that would consider he is an "accomplished" writer should take a gander at his literary profile... Writing for "Hustler" does NOT guarentee one a seat in the hall of fame for writers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 09/25/2007
- OtayPanky See Profile I'm a Fan of OtayPanky permalink

Cenk Ugyur: I know as a guy that there are no limits to what we will think sexually in the dark recesses of our male minds.

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OTAY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 09/24/2007
- jaundicedview See Profile I'm a Fan of jaundicedview permalink

Sung by Willie Nelson, no less:

Cowboys are frequently secretly fond of each other
What did you think those saddles and boots was about?
There's many a cowboy who don't understand the way that he feels towards his
brother,
Inside every cowboy there's a lady who'd love to slip out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 09/24/2007
- dan309 See Profile I'm a Fan of dan309 permalink

Typical straight guy who can't talk about gay guys without mentioning the sex act. Like we all walk around thinking about having 'anal' with other guys. Sheesh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 09/23/2007
- yungturk39 See Profile I'm a Fan of yungturk39 permalink

What's with this neurotic hissy fit, Cenk?

Do you want to talk about it? I'll take you to that new latte shop you've been telling me so much about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 09/18/2007
- SamEllison See Profile I'm a Fan of SamEllison permalink

Deep breathes my man, remember you are no longer a Republican. I didn't read that other blog anyway but it has something to do with guns. Blue steel, blue Viagra. Hell Roy Rogers stuffed his horse Trigger. Go figure!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 09/18/2007
- Qbear See Profile I'm a Fan of Qbear permalink

In your world view I guess America only has 5 gay actors, and fewer lesbians.

Maybe when Achilles and Patroclus are filmed as more than cousins, and Shug Avery and Miss Ceilie have something more than a one time kiss, gay movie viewers won't look for our own versions.

ALL actors and actresses if they have a brain, know that to be HOT, they need fans of both orientations. Think Buffy Vampire Slayer and Xena were hits cuz of the writing?

and it's straight women going to see Jodie Foster's new vigillante flic....dream on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 09/17/2007
- starrianna See Profile I'm a Fan of starrianna permalink

are you talking about Jodie Foster's new film,

"THE CLOSETED ONE"?

She and Tom Cruise should hook up.
That would kill all the rumors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 09/26/2007
- Qbear See Profile I'm a Fan of Qbear permalink

Did your version of Interview with a Vampire have Brad Pitt and Antonio Banderas as just buddies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 09/17/2007
- Qbear See Profile I'm a Fan of Qbear permalink

In case you didn't get the memo, gays/lesbians push the boundaries of BOTH hyper masculine and hyper feminine.
I'd point you to the Village People COWBOY, Chuck Conners, and a Tom of Finland retrospective .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 09/17/2007
- CornellRedneck See Profile I'm a Fan of CornellRedneck permalink

Chuck Conners? What, are you nuts? He was as straight as Steve McQueen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 09/22/2007
- Qbear See Profile I'm a Fan of Qbear permalink

Cenk

You put your ten dollars down to watch YOUR version of 3:10 to Yuma,,,,and let me put my queer ten dollars down to watch MY version.

What possible difference does it make to you, that in MY version a hero might kiss another hero.
Just as in My version of Mr and Mrs Smith, the LAST thing Brad Pitt would think of, is to kiss Angelina.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 09/17/2007
- blueraven See Profile I'm a Fan of blueraven permalink

Aw, but Cenk! If people didn't see homoerotic subtext in everything, the slashfic writers would have to do something else with their time!

*tries to see this as a bad thing*

*gives up*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 09/17/2007
- woodcut See Profile I'm a Fan of woodcut permalink

When "being gay" isn't thought as something to be reviled, this b.s. will stop. BTW - anal's not so bad!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 09/17/2007
- CornellRedneck See Profile I'm a Fan of CornellRedneck permalink

Thanks, Cenk!! Phew-- now I can start watching cowboy movies again without fear that something is wrong with me for not thinking gay thoughts about the characters! (Did Georgie Russell like Davy Crockett a little too much, hmmm?) What about John Wayne and Walter Brennan in the movie where Brennan plays "stumpy", hmm?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 09/17/2007
- pangardenguru See Profile I'm a Fan of pangardenguru permalink

when will people just grow up about it! you are like children. some people are gay. thats the whole story. grow up . get over it. people have such unsophisticated and childish almost notions about gayness. of course the church has done more damage to this than anything, always spreading misinformation and playing to peoples basest fears....sophisticated people are not endlessly concerned with other people's sex life. grow up!!! and all gay people are not alike. just like in straight people, some are nasty and obnoxious and some are noble and decent. I'm gay as a goose and I absolutely am NOT interested in sex in a public bathroom. It gives all gay men bad names to assume we do. The last thing on earth I am interested in is anything sexual in a public restroom. you'll have to look to big super moral super straight larry craig for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 09/17/2007
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