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Cenk Uygur

Cenk Uygur

Posted March 16, 2009 | 12:10 PM (EST)

Fake Outrage by Politicians About AIG Bonuses


It is the favorite excuse of losers -- no one could have seen it coming. Condoleezza Rice said it about 9/11 after she had been handed a memo saying, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the United States." George Bush said it about the levees breaking during Hurricane Katrina after he had sat through a presentation on how the levees would break during Hurricane Katrina. CNBC said it about the crash of the market and economy as they bragged day in and day out about how well they knew the market.

And now the Obama administration is saying it about the AIG bonuses, as they damn well knew it was going to happen. In fact, they pushed for it to happen. Several times, Tim Geithner argued that companies receiving bailouts should be allowed to give most of their executives any damn bonus they like. And he won that argument.

Every time a bill came up to limit executive bonuses they watered it down. They said the companies couldn't retain top "talent" without it. They said they were afraid of a "brain drain." And the list of dumb excuses goes on and on.

So, they were wrong. I can abide by that. What I cannot abide is the fake shock and outrage. The claim that no one could have seen this coming. I saw it coming! Read what I wrote here and here and here. How clear was it to me -- and anyone paying attention -- that they were going to give away our money to executives who did not deserve it? Crystal clear.

Time after time, the Bush administration, the Obama administration and Congress had an opportunity to attach limits on executive pay to legislation authorizing bailout money. And time after time, they refused. So, please spare me the bullshit outrage. If you didn't see this coming, then you are an absolute moron.

It turns out if you let people take millions of dollars in money they didn't deserve, they'll take it every time. Of course!! I'd probably do it, too. The bellyaching about greed is unbearable. If you set up a system, where people give themselves compensation with no accountability to the people putting the money in, they will obviously give themselves as much compensation as they can possibly get away with. Every time.

To not understand that is to not understand human nature. It was the government's job -- as the primary lenders and financiers of these essentially bankrupt companies -- to dictate the rules of the game. Of course, they could have put strings on that money. They could have capped bonuses, or salaries overall. They could have capped it for everybody, instead of just the top five or twenty-five executives. They could have taken these companies into bankruptcy, where the executives would not be legally entitled to their salaries or bonuses.

Yet, they did none of these things. Instead, AIG executives will walk away with $450 million in bonuses -- at a company that was such a colossal failure that it lost $99.3 billion last year and required a $170 billion taxpayer bailout. Worse yet, the executives in the division that caused this epic meltdown will get $165 million in bonuses. I can't get over the injustice of that.

But don't worry, we are told that Tim Geithner "was really upset by the news" and "berated them" over the phone. What a joke! Wow, that tongue-lashing must have really stung. I wonder if their several million dollar bonus will help cushion the blow of being yelled at. Geithner is responsible for setting the rules in the first place. It's all in the rules. If you let people take the money, they will. If you don't allow it as a condition for receiving the money, they can't. As the politicians scurry to find someone to blame, they should look in the mirror. They're the ones that set the rules of this game.

Now the same politicians who brought you this piece of injustice will claim a) there is nothing that can be done and b) will pretend to be outraged and then not fix the underlying problem. The politicians will huff and puff and probably do nothing. So, after all this fake outrage, will this happen again? If this broken incentive system is not fixed, of course it will. You can bet your bottom dollar on it. In fact, you already have.

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It is the favorite excuse of losers -- no one could have seen it coming. Condoleezza Rice said it about 9/11 after she had been handed a memo saying, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the United ...
It is the favorite excuse of losers -- no one could have seen it coming. Condoleezza Rice said it about 9/11 after she had been handed a memo saying, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the United ...
 
 
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TrollDiddy
I like you, Betty
02:35 AM on 03/19/2009
Darned right! The "not me" excuses are pouring out left and right.

Witness Barney Frank's blog yesterday right here on the Huffington Post. Not an explanation, but a big "it wasn't meeeeeeeeee" post.
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09:25 AM on 03/18/2009
Spot on.
Trouble is, with all rhetoric most Americans will believe our inept Congress members actually do care.
And gee, how easy was *that*? Drop some fake one-liners to the media and suddenly we're all suppose to feel they're on the side of the average (now struggling) American.
Nothing will be done. But what's really tragic is it'll take years if not decades to get to the truth in this fiasco.
Good article, and thanks for telling it like it is.
06:55 PM on 03/17/2009
I wondered why Congress bailed AIG since its not a bank. Remember when this economic crisis hit, Congress let Bear Sterns go under, then pushed a bunch of Forced Marriages between Banks? Then they bailed out AIG. At the time, I thought: "That's strange. What does an insurance company have to do with this crisis?" I think I just found the answer.
AIG INSURES THE PENSION TRUST OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS! No wonder why they were immediately bailed out! Our Senators and Congressmen said by their actions, "To hell with the people, let's protect our future." ISN'T IT NICE TO SEE WHERE THEIR LOYALTIES LIE!
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TrollDiddy
I like you, Betty
03:16 AM on 03/19/2009
is that really true about AIG with regards to the congressional pension trust?

Hahaha... I'm not laughing because it's funny, because in fact it's really sad. But typical. Where is the MSM in all this?
01:32 PM on 03/17/2009
The Federal Reserve loaned $85 billion in September of 2008. The 85 billion loan was not TARP funds, and did not need the approval of congress. Below is the rule that allows the Federal Reserve to lend money to AIG. The bill was signed by President Hoover and congress in 1932.

http://search.aol.com/aol/search?query=Hoover+1932+rule+on+bank+failure&s_it=keyword_rollover&c.userid=3034206285940693727

I heard Barney Franks on R. Maddow's show say, "because the first $85 billion was loaned to AIG in September, 2008 by the Federal Reserves, and did not need the approval of congress, there may not be any recourse regarding the bonuses because the Federal Reserve made the loan without putting any restrictions on the loan". However, since we are now the majority owner( 80%) of AIG, and with the restrictions put in place by the Obama administration, we will be calling the shots moving forward. See Franks amendments to TARP dated 01/19/09:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/fake-outrage-by-politicia_b_175315.html
12:26 PM on 03/17/2009
I will take you one further I dont believe that the American people are outrage as the media is making them seem. I think the American people are outrage that they have no healthcare not about AIG bonuses.

Carol
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anothervoice2
332 electoral votes is a mandate
12:14 PM on 03/17/2009
Well written, thank you for finally calling out Congress and the WH on this drama they put on for the TV shows. They knew the AIG bonus payouts were coming and did nothing to stop it.

The WSJ reports today that bailed out WS firms are talking about getting past the pay limits in the new TARP bill:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123724826580949187.html

Will the WH and Congress get in front of this KNOWN problem and fix the loopholes in the TARP legislation? Or is there another weekend surprise or two in the works - the WS firms will misbehave and continue to pay themselves obscene salaries on the taxpayer dime, the news will leak and the politicians will pretend to be outraged again. President Obama's platform of change is socialism for the rich, it is just "the song and dance" version.
01:21 PM on 03/17/2009
Let me say, we are all being played by our media again. Check this out and see who is really looking out for Main Street. Amendment to TARP:

http://www.rules.house.gov/amendment_details.aspx?NewsID=4121
11:42 AM on 03/17/2009
OMG!! Now I'm really outraged!
To think....holding our elected officials accountable! You mean to say, they should have actually done something from the outset???
They should have included verbage in their big fat handout legislation that would have averted this mess???
Oh, the humanity! They should have...dare I say it!...they should have done their jobs?!?!?!
Mister, who do you think you are???
11:16 AM on 03/17/2009
Finally soemone that gets it.

The biggest issue here is with the federal government's failure (yet again) to see this coming and to not put restrictions on it in the first place. Then they have the audacity to complain after the fact.
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RickO
Musician, Atheist
09:43 AM on 03/17/2009
If you own an 80% stake in anything, you effectively control it 100%.

As a remedy for the claim that the bonuses are important to retain "talent", the new owners should simply fire all that "talent" on the spot. Next issue.
11:17 AM on 03/17/2009
Except they have non voting shares. A rather important fact you leave out.
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LeftRight
TANSTAAFL
02:35 PM on 03/17/2009
That could easily be converted into voting stock. Actually, we SHOULD have more than an 80% share, since what we paid for it is several times the total worth of 100%!!!
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terragazelle60
03:15 PM on 03/17/2009
Most of the people who worked at AIG that made the mistakes no longer work at AIG...the CEO is new also. So who do we punish? That ones that are working to fix things at AIG and need to be retained, or the ones that are no longer even there? Also the unit that got AIG into trouble is centered in England...

How about the rage at the people that enabled this mess? Phil Gramm (republican majority 1999) who got passed the repeal of Glass-Stealey...the law that said an insurance company could not be a bank, or a mortgage company...AIG a insurance company got into trouble, not in the insurance unit, but in the mortgage/Financial producer unit. This is what brought about this mess and with AIG being wrapped up into the banks and institutions here and all around the world, if AIG falls... so will the banks over seas...and those banks are in the web with banks here...so our financial institutions will fail...our complete economy would fall. The banks over seas had to be shored up so that in turn the banks here would not fail. Maybe that is a piece of the puzzle that is needed for the people here to know. It is not just shut down the banks...in the Great depression 10,000 banks failed. We had banks fail last year and this year...we do not need to go through another GD.
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AnnfromCA
09:42 AM on 03/17/2009
You are exactly right. Fake outrage now, even against Geithner, is false and shows a real lack of backbone in the administration to stand by their decisions.
08:34 AM on 03/17/2009
You would have to really be out there on the left wing fringe to make a connection between executives getting high pay because their private company was making lots of profits by selling to willing consumers and executives getting high pay because their company was going bankrupt and a socialist in the White House funneled billions of dollars of taxpayer money to them with no strings attached. In the first case we willingly give the money to the company in exchange for something we want and in the second case we the company gets the money because a politician threatened to confiscate our property and throw us in jail if we didn't cough up the taxes. And this guy looks at these two things as being the same? He needs to go back and re-educate himself, starting with Sesame Street.
08:57 AM on 03/17/2009
"and a socialist in the White House funneled billions of dollars of taxpayer money to them with no strings attached."

Obviously your speaking of Paulson & Bush, they engineered TARP.

It will forever be their baby, they just left if for someone else to raise.
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ProudLiberalDan
Standing up an fighting conservatives since 1987
12:44 PM on 03/17/2009
So George W. Bush was a socialist? He engineered the first TARP. He and Paulson wanted even less oversight.
07:04 AM on 03/17/2009
It just goes to show you that it really doesn't matter who is in charge. Washington eats up new ideas and spits out the same old pathetic crap. I still think Obama has a huge opprotunity to change things, but if he keeps this stuff up he will go down in flames very fast. The population wants him to do the right thing. If that causes AIG to scream and yell who cares. What are they going to do go bankrupt? They can't, we own the damned company. Right? Since I am Frank the taxpayer (I just paid my damned tax) I say the top management should be given their walking papers. In fact I say that everyone who was going to get a bonus over 5K gets their walking papers. I don't care if they always get their money in that fashion. Time to change the way things get done. There are a ton of UNEMPLOYED finance people who would love a chance to work. The old saying is so true....You can be replaced.
05:14 AM on 03/17/2009
Let's see.. Should I submit to being yelled at while being handed a million bucks, or should I accept a hardy handshake with a "thank you" with no money attached?

That's a tough one, by God...!
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rbchilds
In times of deceit, the truth will set you free
02:23 AM on 03/17/2009
Well Done. I understand that the average payout was $500,000 per person. if that is correct, I would like to stand in line and have Mr. Geithner berate me, just give me a check for $500,000.00 and I'll take it like a man. I may even take Mr. Geithner's lead and not pay taxes on the money either.
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LeftRight
TANSTAAFL
02:38 PM on 03/17/2009
The total bailout of $700,000,000,000 divided by 300,000,000 people works out to be $2,333.33 for every man woman and child in America. It's actually less per person now, because there's more than 300 million Americans.
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rbchilds
In times of deceit, the truth will set you free
02:14 AM on 03/17/2009
My understanding is that the average bonus was about $500,000. Hey, Mr. Geithner can I receive a $500,000 tongue lashing. I promise to not pay the money back, not apologize for anything I've done wrong. Just to show you how in-step I am with you I'll take your example and not pay taxes on it either.