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Cenk Uygur

Cenk Uygur

Posted: December 27, 2010 11:43 AM

John Boehner can't stop talking about the "will of the public" these days. Now that the Republicans have won the House, he keeps saying over and over that the Democrats must go along with Republican plans from now on because they have to listen to the... will of the public.

Well, here's what I don't remember -- the Republicans giving a damn about the will of the public after the 2008 elections. The American people spoke as loudly and clearly as I have ever seen in any election in my lifetime. They gave the House and the Senate by overwhelming margins to the Democrats. They also gave the Democrats the White House, and along with it, complete control of Washington. And did the Republicans listen to the will of the public, then? No, they blocked that will at every turn.

So, you'll excuse me now if I'm not buying the sudden increased interest the GOP has in listening to the American people and the results of an election. They never for one second respected the results of the 2008 election. They didn't give a damn what the American people wanted.

And that's their right as the opposition party, but they don't get to pretend now that they respect the results of an election and take it as a mandate to go in a certain political direction. And the Democrats would be damned fools if they fell for that trick.

By the way, the GOP has a funny definition of what the American people want. Here is the popularity, according to recent polls, of the different pieces of legislation they just opposed:

  1. Don't Ask, Don't Tell -- 77%

  2. START Treaty -- 67%

  3. Dream Act -- 54%

  4. Tax Cuts for Only the Middle Class and Not the Rich -- 67%

  5. 9/11 Responders Bill -- 99% (no polling on this, but who on God's green earth was against this)


By the way, the Obama administration has been given tremendous credit by the media for passing three out of five of these priorties. Really? Not one of the things they got through had popularity less than 67%. In fact, they conceded to the Republicans on an issue where they had two-thirds of the country behind them (no tax cuts for the rich).

The Republicans certainly don't get any credit for these bills passing despite their best efforts. In fact, they opposed these universally popular proposals -- and defeated some of them. And they spent the last two years completely and utterly ignoring the will of the voters. So, the next time they come with that nonsense line, someone should shove the real truth down their throats.

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John Boehner can't stop talking about the "will of the public" these days. Now that the Republicans have won the House, he keeps saying over and over that the Democrats must go along with Republican p...
John Boehner can't stop talking about the "will of the public" these days. Now that the Republicans have won the House, he keeps saying over and over that the Democrats must go along with Republican p...
 
 
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01:50 AM on 01/31/2011
"Well, here's what I don't remember -- the Republicans giving a damn about the will of the public after the 2008 elections."

You'r right about that, Cenk. Republicans don'r care about the will of the public.

Nor, as you know, do Democrats.

By clear majorities, the public wants Medicare for All, the wars to end, Wall Street law breakers in jail, a fair deal for Main Street, and civil rights restored. They can get none of these from either Republicans or Democrats.

We're stuck with a two-party system, where both parties respond to donors, not voters. Both parties are.thus owned by "them that has".

Obama said to some Wall Sreet bankers threatening to cut their support to him: "I'm all that stands between you and the pitchforks." It's not that he views this as his chief role. It's just why they should continue to pay him rather than a Republican for favoring their interests over the public interest, since he staves off pitchforks and a Republican could not.

What's to be done? Take to the streets, as in Cairo? Chris Hedges now advocates civil disobedience as the only way the public can get what it wants. Is he right?
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04:22 PM on 01/06/2011
If the Republicans ever for a second thought about the will of the people it soon slipped their mind. If they had the will of the people in their mind they would not have blocked every bill that could have helped create jobs. If they had the will of the people they would not have demanded that the tax cuts for the rich be extended. I could go on and on but I think you know what I mean.
06:12 PM on 01/01/2011
Hey Cenk. Happy New Year. Oh, I forgot. John Boehner becomes Speaker in a few days. Forget it! Well I won't. You've nailed it again. Yeah suddenly the Republicans care about what WE think. The will of the public? I doubt it. There WAS an election in 2008, a resounding one. And how did they react? As if it never happened, that's how. John McCain and Sarah Palin had a huge banner behind them in 2008 'Country First'. Well after they lost, they both conveniently forgot that sentiment. Sarah's been blustering for the Tea Party and John McCain? He's a lost soul in the Senate. A shadow of himself. Now John Kerry knew how to act, didn't he? After the election in 2004, HE went back to the Senate and went right back to his job working for us. None of this whining and obstructing. The Democrats really need to get their mojo back. Perhaps this loss might be motivational? Look at the lame duck session. Quite impressive. Not as much as we hoped, but good enough. So Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, and STILL Majority Leader Harry Reid, get yourselves ready. Gloves on. On January 5th you have an important job (in the Senate at least). Get those rules changed. NOW!
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ranchero42
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01:44 PM on 01/17/2011
Nobody is questioning the motivation behind changing Senate rules (another way of saying: the #e// they're not) IMO what is needed most is clarification of the way in which those tools are intended for use. Abuse has always been a potential problem; that potential has been realized and exploited to great effect. Eliminating ignorance in the Senate should be a lot easier than eliminating it from the willfully ignorant citizenry. No doubt the entire body will be falling all over themselves to be first to sign onto renewed and enhanced understanding and do their part to restore decorum.

One thing leads to another...such an august assembly shouldn't want it any other way.
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08:59 PM on 12/30/2010
If the Dems knew the will of the people, how do you explain the 2010 election results?
03:22 PM on 12/31/2010
In part: the Supreme Court. We no longer have a democracy. Voting is not based on facts, education on issues, insight, healthy debate, the free flow of information....
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ranchero42
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01:49 PM on 01/17/2011
Get on board with the carefully worded language used by Speaker Boehner. The word he used was 'public' not 'people'. Sorry you didn't get that memo; but it's real interesting to know that you didn't.

Consider yourself schooled. Try not to obsess too much about whodunnit.
12:36 AM on 12/30/2010
You are cherry picking your issues. Yes the Dems have a majority with them on the first three issues. The problem is that most people don't really care about these issues. They are fringe issues that appeal to small groups of people. A much larger issue is people's views on the federal government. 59 percent of the country thinks the federal government is too big. 78% of the country does not trust big government. People also are concerned about jobs and outsourcing, too issues which the Dems ignored ever since they got elected. That is why Republicans won the election. Do you honestly expect people care more about the START treaty then the size and actions of the federal government?

You are right about one thing. The Dems are so weak they took the one major issue that the public was behind them on (no tax cuts for the rich) and they folded like a cheap tent and gave in on it. So much for all that bs talk about the deficit commission. Both parties are phonies on that very real issue.
10:07 AM on 12/30/2010
That's a no-brainer. EVERYONE thinks government is too big, until they need one of its services. That's why such statistics are meaningless.
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08:30 PM on 12/29/2010
I don't remember the Republicans giving a damn about the will of the public after being lied to about weapons of mass destruction, starting two wars and invading a country based upon lies, deception and the manipulation of Cheney/Bush. All the while with an entire elected govenment who, because of their own self interest were afraid to stand up and be call unpatriotic for fear of the reprisal from a paid for media. These are the same people who brought you that show. The will of America's collective ignorance. It's our fault not theirs! How much more are we willing to accept?

Give the public a hamburger, buy an irresponsible media and put them in front of a TV. Where has critical thinking gone? Where is the demand for accountabliltiy? Does the will of the people say OK to the sons and daughters who have died? Wall Streets pilfering of America? The forclosures and bankrupt States?

The will of the public is resigned to apathy and sadly needs to suffer so that they can remember or learn that the public is entilted to an elected government that serves the "people" and not themselves. America are you really still buying? Election reform is really the first issue to be addressed. Time to clean house or get what we deserve. The "will of ignorance and apathy" is our lot. Republicans can call it what they want the road leads on and cliff is near!
10:47 PM on 12/29/2010
Where was the critical thinking BEFORE nearly every single Democrat voted to invade Iraq and to take a look at what you guys call "cooked intel"? If not they, then who?
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thirdcloud
11:47 PM on 12/30/2010
You make my point...election reform is non partisan cure for self service politics. You are correct, the absence of critical thinking is not new only ever more brazen during the Bush era. Which side of the isle doesn't matter. My reference to Republicans follows the contention that they are the one's who listen to the will of the people. Truth be told without election reform few if any are listening!

You can have the last word,
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lelabet
05:58 PM on 12/29/2010
To Republicans, Americans are only those people who agree with their backwards politics. No one else matters. If you believe in social welfare, you're anti-American. If you believe in gay rights, you're anti-American. If you believe in the humane treatment of illegal immigrants via the DREAM act, you're anti-American. If the only way you can afford health care is through government funding, you're anti-American. If you voted for Obama, you're anti-American. I can go on and on.
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tnkeating
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06:36 PM on 12/29/2010
To Democrats, We are all Americans.......

Some of us are just more intelligent...
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lelabet
06:45 PM on 12/29/2010
LOL,
and more compassionate...
and more reasonable...
and more rational...
and more inclusive...
and more diverse...
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09:04 PM on 12/30/2010
To Democrats....if you don't believe as they believe, you must be anti-American. Wow!
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03:50 PM on 12/29/2010
Keep in mind, according to a bare majority of SCOTUS, corporations are people, too.
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GiveUsFree
Teapublicans are destroying America.
03:22 PM on 12/29/2010
I thought for a second there that Cenk was going after the GOP finally, but he had to get his little snipe in at President Obama. It amazes me how the MSM attempts to diminish this President's accomplishments in the face of unprecedented obstruction. Even Keith Olberman, in the worst special comment, he's ever given tried to say the passage of Health Care Reform was no big deal. It only took a hundred years and 8 Presidents to even get a framework in place. WTF?
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09:06 PM on 12/30/2010
Why have so many Americans resisted over such an extended period of time? What did the 2010 election results really mean?
10:02 AM on 01/01/2011
Well you see this big accomplishments that you are talking about are the problems. take health care reform for example , yes more people are going to be insured and that is a great and no more pre exciting conditions , but we did not fix the core issue which is people making money of you and me because we are sick , I can understand a hospital or a doctor making money but the insurance company make money by not paying , I have been on my insurance since I had my job and now since health care passed my insurance company has taken the price up again, open enrollment just passed and I had to decrease my coverage and increase my out of pocket so that I can have insurance because I could not afford the price , now I know Obama helped people that cannot afford it at all and I am very happy , but it does not help me any because the bill that passed was not for people like me , but if they had put a public option so that this companies can have a real competition and give consumers a fair price..... .anyway just a little mad , but again i think Obama is great and he was the best choice but i agree with Cenk we have to hold his feet under fire and when we see something wrong we are going to say something , we are libs
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CTDFalconer
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02:57 PM on 12/29/2010
Given the low turnout on election day, and the narrow victories in most areas, it's a pretty safe bet that the current elected crop of republicans was put in by no more than 12% of registered voters. Hardly a mandate.
12:52 PM on 12/29/2010
The GOP has used the 'will of the people' line repeatedly because there are enough righties that are willing to believe it. Somehow, their actions never seem to reflect their rhetoric, yet their followers continue to believe them over and over.
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CTDFalconer
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02:58 PM on 12/29/2010
It's just part of their fake populist window dressing. Nothing more.
03:08 PM on 12/29/2010
Well, NWGuy, it's a lot like "Hope-N-Change" and "Do It for The Children". They never worked out for you folks, yet all you guys need is a "D" next to the name, the willful tilt machine, left-wing media declaring that the "D" candidate's opponent is "crazy" and "insane" and *poof* "all good", and you punch the chad. Well, for those of you up to that task, anyway.

Pitiful.
11:19 AM on 12/29/2010
The Republicans wouldn't know the will of the public if it slapped them in the face.
gparks
Fan of truth, justice, prosperity for all!
10:36 AM on 12/29/2010
Well ... now that's accurate reporting wih context!

What a concept .... a journalist!

Thanks CU for your work on this!
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05:28 AM on 12/29/2010
Every time I write my Senator (Hatch), I get a letter back telling how wrong I am and what a great job he and his friends are doing for America.
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valluhree
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12:24 PM on 12/29/2010
LOL Seriously?
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tnkeating
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06:40 PM on 12/29/2010
I get the same damn letter from all my Senators and Representatives.

I fired both of them.
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Kye154
03:06 AM on 12/29/2010
"Will of the People"???? Well, I am a people too, (OKm singular as in person), and no Republican has ever asked me in my entire life what I thought. Where do they get off say, "the will of the people"?

Also, I think the Democrats had a great shot for passing more and touger legislation than what they did with their super majority in both the house and senate. But, they only addressed the easy issues, like DADT, the Start Treaty, etc.,. They still haven't fully regulated the banks or done anything about the mortgage mess, there is no WPA to help Americans out of this economic crisis, no revamping of the 70,000 page tax codes, and allowed national health insurance fiasco to linger until 2014, which will give Republicans time to trash it when they take over Washington in 2012, nor have they disengaged from the Bush era wars in Iraq and Afghanistan which is eating up alot of tax dollars chasing camel jockeys around in the desert with expensive aircraft and tanks, and contracted mercenary armies, when people are going hungry here.
11:21 AM on 12/29/2010
I too wish they could have done more. But, Congress is a slow animal. It takes time, persistence, & a clear focus. There's still time -- but, probably not until after 2012 when more democrats are in office in the House.
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08:15 PM on 01/05/2011
You should take the time to watch the story of LBJ on PBS. I saw it just the other day - I think it's on "Frontline", but a search on their site will reveal it. ...LBJ knew what to do with his majorities when he had them. Obama? Not so much. Obama would have done VERY much better if he had seen that video...