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Cenk Uygur

Cenk Uygur

Posted: November 3, 2010 04:35 AM

I'd like to ask all of the people who thought trying to reach out to Republicans in a bipartisan manner would be a good idea -- Rahm Emanuel and Barack Obama in particular -- how'd that work out for you?

Could the effort at bipartisanship over the last two years have been a bigger disaster? The Democrats allowed the Republicans to make their case for two straight years while Democrats laid down their arms. And it turns out the voters didn't know why they should vote for the Democrats. Surprise, surprise.

The Republicans on the other hand went with complete and utter partisanship -- and it worked! If the Obama White House trusts one more idiot in Washington who says they should try reaching consensus with the Republicans, then they deserve the ass kicking they'll get next time around, too.

We had a Republican strategist on our show tonight and with incredibly honesty he admitted that the idea of "bipartisanship" is something that only benefits Republicans because they never really engage in it and they get the Democrats to do what they want (you can watch it here at the 6:39-7:48 mark). How stupid do you have to be to keep falling into that trap?

I guess as stupid as Mark Penn, who of course predictably calls for Obama to do just that -- again -- for the next two years. But Penn isn't stupid (the Democrats aren't stupid either, they're just supposed to be the patsies that lose to the Republicans in this big corporate game that's being played on us). Penn loves the corporatist, pro-Wall Street, Republican policies and is just using the results of this election to push for them as he did when he was running Hillary Clinton's campaign. How did that work out for him? Oh yeah.

Rush Limbaugh pushed the Republicans to fight and not give an inch to the Democrats. That strategy unfortunately worked. However much you might love the idea of bipartisanship, it has proven to be a terrible political strategy. Exactly as we said in the beginning of the Obama administration, the Republicans had no desire to work with the president on anything. We said the only thing they would want to do is to tear him down. We were right.

That's the Washington reality. If President Obama doesn't adjust to that fact and start fighting back, the next two years are going to be brutal.

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03:45 PM on 11/18/2010
Calling the recent Republican rejection of his invitation to have dinner with him this week a pleasant surprise, Pres.Obama promised to re-invite the Rude Repoobs as soon as possible. "This time I'll be a bit more solicitous, perhaps not so presumptive that an invitation from the President of the US would be met with friendly acceptance and appreciation. My bad," the President said. Republican leaders reportedly felt that the menu, cheeseburgers, American fries & Slurpees was too elitist. "Typical Democrat fare..how about food for the Common Man, and what the heck's wrong with a little Merlot, huh?" said Boehner. The Republicans did agree to meet with the White House Chief of Janitorial Services (COJ) to discuss efforts to reduce spending on White House cleaning services.

"Does the so-called "First" Family really need their sheets changed every week?" asked McConnell at aN Oval Office press gaggle.

Flicking his cigarette ash on the President's new Oval Office carpet, Boehner reiterated "American taxpayers need to know that their hard-earned money is not going down the drain to pay for extra SoftScrub and Sani-Flush for all those bathrooms in the White House. We're drawing a line in the dust on this issue," he said.

The President also apologized to the Republicans for his recent "uppity" behavior.

Boehner responded by urging the President to order some Pentagon-grade ash trays for their Oval Office.
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11:22 AM on 11/09/2010
Oh Cenk, can they hire you? Or at least listen? Just like what sister Sarah said, 'how's that hopey changy thingy going for ya?'. Yeah right. Not too well, really. And unless they 'get it' and stop listening to whoever is saying this stuff, we are in for a real bad second half. To lend a positive note, NOW at least they can hand over a good portion of the blame to John of Orange and McConnell in the Senate. WILL they? It's their last resort. Yeah they're down to 'it's their fault'. Well it sure worked for them over the last two years, let's try it. Will it work? Well hopefully cause the Republicans really don't have ideas (they don't, really) then if they would just get out there and define themselves AND their narrative (instead of letting THEM do it) it MIGHT work. Why? The electorate is SO volatile right now that unless there's immediate results you're toast if you're in charge. So here it goes. Good luck John and Mitch, really. I don't want YOU to succeed. I want US to succeed. Get it?
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11:05 PM on 11/08/2010
Thanks for saying what's been on my mind for the last two years. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. It did not work and Democrats should know better than continuing down that path. It is time to divide and conquer or go down trying.
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TucsonEd
04:32 PM on 11/04/2010
I saw you on Dylan Ratigan today I LOVED everything you and Glenn discussed.
Let's get moving!
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12:14 AM on 11/04/2010
I love your passion Cenk and I'm a big fan of the Young Turks but I gotta disagree with you on this on. Obama had to attempt bipartisanship at all costs. If he stood firm the Blue Dogs in the house wouldn't support him. And the GOP would've attacked him regardless, and used the "Well we tried to reach out but Obama wouldn't budge." Heck they did that anyway. Yeah his progressive base might've liked it, but among the electorate on the House map progressives wouldn't help him keep the house no matter what.

Now he probably should've tackled Financial Reform, Energy Reform, and Stimulus first and foremost, but no one anticipated just how tough Healthcare Reform was gonna be. It's the economy, and the government can only do so much. Financial Reform is key and even then it'll take years to get our economy back on it's feet. Until derivatives trading is outlawed or regulated to be less profitable then investment in manufacturing. Until our trade deficit with China is corrected nothing will matter in fixing the economy. It's all band aids on a gun shot wound.
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04:54 PM on 11/04/2010
The conservatives DID use the "we tried to reach out but Obama wouldn't budge" and it worked! They LIE! It doesn't matter! That's his point- when you're in power, USE IT! Screw the republicans. They are just going to lie and manipulate our illiterate undereducated electorate to their advantage and win in the next elections no matter what happens. The Democrats could bring every job back from China and India and the republicans would go on Fox and AM radio and declare that Obama hates China and is instigating war with them by taking jobs back.
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10:13 PM on 11/03/2010
Bipartisanship is not a concept the Republicans understand UNLESS they want something. Obama wasted time appeasibg the Republicans who had no intention of cooperating. After 2 years of this nonsense, I think the Democrats are afraid of the Republicans. What say you, Cenk?
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10:03 PM on 11/03/2010
i read recently a very interesting editorial that claimed Obama was a sort-of philosopher-president. It was well documented. And though i consider myself a would-be-philosopher, philosophers by definition are not men of practical and determined action. Not that philosophy is a bad thing, not at all ; it's just not the realm of the executive. So maybe Obama perhaps could come down from the clouds and stare stark, naked reality in the face and not just ponder about it. It would be a gigantic step, and it would not involve the idealistic notion that, because i ' wanna-be-a-good-guy-and-play-all-fair ' has let slip through his hands - so far - much needed changes that mostly, those that back the GOP laugh at with big guffaws.
Let's Hope, Pray and See !
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09:21 PM on 11/03/2010
Today I wanted to grab Obama like the Godfather did to Johnny Fontaine in the Godfather, slap him and tell him "you can act like a man!"
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Rebecca Borchers
07:10 PM on 11/03/2010
Truer words were never spoken.
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Bennett Walker
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05:15 PM on 11/03/2010
Obama's speach this morning proved that he still doesn't it. As progressives we've done all we can. It's time to give up on the Obama admin. We need to focus our efforts on bigger and better things, whether that's finding a candidate for a primary challenge, or finding a way of breaking the bubble around the mainstream media and the washington establishment.
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Rebecca Borchers
07:15 PM on 11/03/2010
The next big step progressives need to push is campaign finance reform.
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BryanTheRegOps
08:26 PM on 11/03/2010
2x

but it will never happen, Democrats are just as corporatist as GOP.
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09:23 PM on 11/03/2010
Some of the Right Wing States Rights Cons feel the same way they HATE corporate personhood and Citizens United.

A potential ally?
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04:30 PM on 11/03/2010
Revisonism so soon? This class of Democrats bipartisan? Remove the rose tint from your glasses.
You'll see more clearly
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TucsonEd
04:33 PM on 11/04/2010
steve11407 OMG. have you been listening to Faux news?
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03:35 PM on 11/03/2010
Wow! Republicans beat down the weak-kneed, milquetoast side of the corporatist party.

SIS-BOOM-BAAA!
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alan2a
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03:00 PM on 11/03/2010
An actual rationale voice.
02:52 PM on 11/03/2010
What exactly did Obama do in this great bipartisan effort he supposedly engaged in? He had exactly one meeting with the Senate Minority Leader in two years. He repeatedly blamed the Republicans and Bush for the country's problems (even the Dems took Congress in the 2006 election).

All politicians say they have to reach across the aisle. Heck, Boehner said as much last night. No one is going to be for absolute partisanship. Saying it is one thing, but really working together is something else. Admittedly, the GOP in Congress did not play well with others, but let's not pretend that Obama and the Dems wanted to hear much of anything the GOP was saying.
08:02 PM on 11/03/2010
You've been drinking far too much Fox News Kool-Aid. The Democrats repeatedly reached out to Republicans. They watered down every single piece of significant legislation, littering them with give-aways to Republicans hoping to gain at least one Republican vote. They included Republicans in on writing the bills, health care especially. And in the end, no matter how much the Democrats bowed, it wasn't enough.

Because the Republicans were following the Limbaugh strategy: "We want Barack Obama to fail". And what better way to accomplish that than to fake just enough interest in bipartisanship to fool people like you and the Democrats into believing they were sincere, causing legislation to be so watered down that it would piss off not only the Republican base, who would have been pissed anyway, but also the Democratic base who had been promised the kind of change that never materialized.

Republicans played Obama, the Democrats and the voters like a fiddle (the Democrats perhaps willingly allowing themselves to be played) and the entire country suffers as a result. And now the charade shall continue, according to Harry Reid and Barack Obama, as the Washington Generals attempt to work with the Harlem Globetrotters one more time and expect a different outcome.

Bi-partisanship can only work when both sides actually care about achieving a result that benefits the people of this country. The only result the Republicans care about is causing the Democrats to fail, and delivering for the wealthy and the corporations.
02:47 PM on 11/03/2010
True, all of it.

Even a discredited message like the Repubs' will beat no message at all if the BS is offered up often enough. We all know the the Democratic Party of Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy and Hubert Humphrey is dying for want of any message. What is our vision for this country? What does US citizenship mean, and how can citizens use their government and other joint action to make this country what we say we want? Other commentators to this post nailed it, too. What we're offered now is all too often (not always, though) a corporatist charade.

Well, it's up to the progressive online community to take the lead in creating a message to the public about who this country is, who we are, and why Demo candidates deserve their vote, in season and out. It should make change real. There should be room for less than complete assent to it (remember Reagan's 70% rule), but those who reject more than that - or fight the very idea - should not get progressive support.

And, with 2012 in mind, the DNC and the WHite House need to know that without a convincing message and narrative to tell voters, they can get all their money and all their volunteers from the same place they get their politics - the corporatist "center."
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Bennett Walker
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05:20 PM on 11/03/2010
there is no more hope in the DNC or the white house. Progressives need to band together and start refocusing our efforts on more productive things.