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Cenk Uygur

Cenk Uygur

Posted: September 8, 2007 05:26 PM

Your Chance of Being Kidnapped or Killed in Baghdad is 100%


We were talking to Newsweek's correspondent in Baghdad, Babak Dehghanpisheh, on Friday's show. I asked him if a Westerner, journalist or otherwise, could walk around in Baghdad unprotected by the military. He said it would be "suicidal."

I don't really know what I expected. I knew it was dangerous and I suspected that no Westerner went outside of the Green Zone without protection, but I didn't get the sense of how perilous it was until we talked to Dehghanpisheh.

So, I followed up by asking him if being harmed was a certainty if you were unprotected in Baghdad. He answered that your chances of getting killed or kidnapped in Baghdad if you were an unprotected Westerner was "one hundred percent."

Think about that. That's amazing. The Bush administration claims that they have made significant progress in Baghdad security. If anyone had told you that four and a half years into the Iraq War, that any Westerner who walked around Baghdad without a military convoy would have a 100% of being kidnapped or killed in Baghdad, what would you have thought?

You probably would not have believed it. You might have asked, "What happened, did we lose the war?" You certainly wouldn't have surmised that we were making progress.

Imagine if someone told you of all the Americans who had died and been injured in the war, the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed, the fact that there were no weapons of mass destruction, that Saddam Hussein had no links to the 9/11 bombers, that Iraq was in a state of chaos, there was mass ethnic cleansing and sectarian warfare and Baghdad was 100% unsafe to Westerners -- then imagine that the Bush administration was still talking about how we were making great progress in the war and that it was still worth doing. And then imagine that people took them seriously.

I don't think the people inside Washington have a sense of how awful this war has gone. It is an unimaginable failure. It is a historic and epic catastrophe. And here we are this far into it with politicians still talking about winning and saying it was the right thing to do to go in and that if we just stay a little longer and keep escalating the conflict we can turn it around.

I don't think any Congressman should be able to vote to continue this war unless they can take an unprotected walk in Baghdad for fifteen minutes. Put the voting booth in the middle of Baghdad, give them some purple ink and any Congressman who can make it to the voting area without a military escort and vote yes to continue the war should have their vote counted.

Even with all that we have seen, is the American public fully aware of the situation in Baghdad? Has the media done its job in making them aware? Is everyone in America aware that Baghdad is off limits to any Westerner, that you will be kidnapped or killed if you don't have protection there? How could anyone who knows this think we have made any progress in Baghdad? How could anyone conclude that the war and the so-called surge have been anything but a complete and utter failure?

You can watch the whole interview with Babak Dehghanpisheh of Newsweek (and read the transcript) here.

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05:11 AM on 09/12/2007
"I don't think any Congressman should be able to vote to continue this war unless they can take an unprotected walk in Baghdad for fifteen minutes. Put the voting booth in the middle of Baghdad, give them some purple ink and any Congressman who can make it to the voting area without a military escort and vote yes to continue the war should have their vote counted."

Oh mann...I'm feeling a man-crush coming on...

You rock, Cenk!
12:09 PM on 09/09/2007
Cenk, your posts are the best on HuffPo but they seem to get pulled way too early. Thanks for this one, and for all your work here and at The Young Turks.
01:36 AM on 09/09/2007
We have cities in America where your chance of being assaulted are almost that high.
Baghdad is only one city in a nation of 27 million people.
05:00 AM on 09/09/2007
ass.
08:09 AM on 09/10/2007
Your momma.
11:29 PM on 09/09/2007
Which means what? Aside from your premise being totally faulty, I cannot discern a point. If anything, assuming your premise IS true, it is another indictment of the establishment's failure to address domestic tranquility. Baghdad is only one city? Do you totally fail to grasp the significance of what is going on there? I am consistently stunned by the inanity of your comments, will.
08:13 AM on 09/10/2007
On the other hand I could not remember any comment you have ever posted. I checked out your profile then I realized why. All your comments are pretty much the same Left Wing mindless drivel that dominates this site. God help you guys if any of you ever strayed from the liberal party line or had an original thought.
11:37 PM on 09/08/2007
This mess is on purpose.We are doing genocide in disguise.

Watch cheney here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I

They had a plan.
11:12 PM on 09/08/2007
I think that Bush and Cheney should get an indefinite extension of the use of American Troops in Iraq.

All they would have to do to get my vote would be to spend 24 hours in downtown Bagdad w/o any troops for backup.

If they make it, Fine.
If they don't then we have solved a major problem here in the US.

God I love this idea!
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ssg13565
10:40 PM on 09/08/2007
I have been against this war from way before its
beginning.

Even so I had no idea how dumb it was for Bush
to say that he wanted to bring western style
democracy to the Iraqis until I read "Peace
Be Upon You, The Story of Muslim, Christian,
and Jewish Coexistence" by Zachary Karabell.

The book starts its history from the beginning
of Islam, so it wasn't until chapter 10 that
I learned that Bush couldn't have chosen a
more inflammatory premise than bringing Western
Style Democracy to Iraq.

To understand why, you have to read the book.
If you are an academic expert in the middle-east,
then you might know why without reading the book.
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SolarPowerGuy
Ph.D., Immunology; Solar power @ home; Green Party
09:13 PM on 09/08/2007
"I don't think any Congressman should be able to vote to continue this war unless they can take an unprotected walk in Baghdad for fifteen minutes. Put the voting booth in the middle of Baghdad, give them some purple ink and any Congressman who can make it to the voting area without a military escort and vote yes to continue the war should have their vote counted."

BRAVO, Mr. Uygur!

That's going in my file of memorable quotes.
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ReasonIsMyReligion
Don't know much micro-bio-logy
11:22 PM on 09/08/2007
Quote of the YEAR!
09:03 PM on 09/08/2007
I read today that Hunt Oil of Houston has become the first western company to sign a Production Sharing Agreement in Kurdistan.
The only way to end this insanity is for
Congress to ban long-term war profiteering or pass a 90% surtax on Iraqi oil revenues to recover the cost of the invasion and occupation. I don't think taxpayers would support corporate welfare.
08:40 PM on 09/08/2007
That 100% chance seems somewhat intuitive to me. I know there's no way in hell I'd try it. Of course, what's working or what's not working really are irrelevant. It's an illegal occupation based on lies and we need to get out now. I think if the Democrats fund that next $50 billion, they slit their own throats. They've already alienated enough voters. I can just imagine how they will become as unpopular as Republicans.
08:08 PM on 09/08/2007
Could this be why our journalists are buying stories and video from Iraqis instead of actually covering stories outside the Green Zone themselves. All the stories they have bought second hand are suspect.
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castlerider
"A man's home is his castle"
07:51 PM on 09/08/2007
Cenk, what happened to your post "A Test Of Leadership".. ?
I thought it was thought provoking and very good, and pulled way too early.
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ihavenobias
08:21 PM on 09/08/2007
I'm not sure how huffpost decides how long something stays (number of hit and or number of comments and or stature of writer?) but I'd be curious to know myself.
06:29 PM on 09/10/2007
Just click on his name. His old posts are still available. I haven't figured out the criteria for closing comments. I guess it's time and/or numbers.
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
07:34 PM on 09/08/2007
All politicians who support the war should be required to walk from one end of Baghdad to another with no military escort. If they make it, then they can vote to support the surge and continue funding. Bush can go last wearing a bright red "I Love Texas" t-shirt.
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MA
progressive not obsessive
07:21 PM on 09/08/2007
We want this war over and we want our money back.....
08:25 PM on 09/08/2007
You broke it means you bought it even if you didn't read the sign till now. Pay up and shut up. Neither of us wants to see you go out in hand cuffs.
07:04 PM on 09/08/2007
"What happened, did we lose the war?"

We didn't. Bush did.
06:53 PM on 09/08/2007
The Democrats will never use this as a talking point because it's too convincing. It would imply taking a hard position on the issue.