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Charles Feldman

Charles Feldman

Posted: February 13, 2011 09:02 PM

Can Jerry Brown pull it off?

That's the question as he moved into higher gear last week to sell his plan to have voters decide in June whether to extend higher taxes on income, vehicles and sales. Before that can happen, though, he has to get California's infamously dysfunctional state legislature to agree to allow the special election in the first place. For this to happen by June, Brown needs legislative approval by next month.

To accomplish this, Brown must garner a two-thirds vote of the legislature -- and that means picking up at least a couple of Republican votes while keeping all the Democrats on board and on message.

"I want Republican votes," Brown is quoted telling the Los Angeles Times. "I need Republican votes -- not just to get it through the Legislature but to make it credible so it will pass."

But Brown is well aware that getting getting the legislature to go along -- which is far from certain -- is not the same thing as getting voters to.

During a trip down to L.A. last Friday, Brown was hemmed in by reporters at Bob Hope Airport's A Terminal and peppered with questions about what would happen should the famously tax averse California voters give him the cold shoulder and turn down his plan.

He all but hinted at the end of the world as we know it!

Brown is smart and no doubt right that without the extension, at least, of the higher tax rates, the state is fiscally doomed. But it will likely be a hard sell. What's more, should Brown's plan get rejected by voters, it will weaken his hand politically. But he is experienced enough to know all of this. It's a gamble. But he knows this, too.

Charles Feldman is a journalist, media consultant and co-author of the book, "No Time To Think-The Menace of Media Speed and the 24 Hour News Cycle." He has covered politics and police in Los Angeles since 1995 and is a regular contributor of investigative reports to KNX1070 Newsradio.

 

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Can Jerry Brown pull it off? That's the question as he moved into higher gear last week to sell his plan to have voters decide in June whether to extend higher taxes on income, vehicles and sales. Be...
Can Jerry Brown pull it off? That's the question as he moved into higher gear last week to sell his plan to have voters decide in June whether to extend higher taxes on income, vehicles and sales. Be...
 
 
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01:01 PM on 02/16/2011
Why is it that everytime something happens in California; there comes these peole who demonizes the Union Workers? They act as if Union Workers don't pay taxes, volunteer their extra time for the good of the community, or be a law abiding citizens. These haters come on this board and sprout their inane thoughts as to why the union workers should be Suffering along with the private sector workers also (meaning themselves usually). But why don't they ask themselves; how did the private sector get into this mess? The haters blame EVERYONE but themselves. Pathetic.
12:25 AM on 02/17/2011
The big problem with public sector union workers is that much was promised to them by politicians wanting their vote without participation from the union worker.  It seems crazy to think that public union workers get to retire early with  a full pension when they didn't contribute to that fund at all in some cases, and barely contributed in most cases. 

Just recently it was reported that in Sussex county NY that police on avg make 202,000 annually in salaries and yet only work approx 14 days a month.  I know....it is in their union contract.  So you could say they negotiated a great deal for themselves, which they did at the expense of all those living in Essex county.  Making good on that contract is too heavy of a burden for any government unless the plan was to tax the citizens to death.
12:20 PM on 02/18/2011
I don't know the case in Sussex county but if you provide the link I would be more than happy to read it. I do however, know about the unions in my state. We pay and contribute every dime to our pension. Nothing is in there that we didn't earn for oursevles. The majority of the union member and by that I mean the rank file that makes about 36-40K per year put in at LEAST 30 years before they can retire. Trust me when I say that they contribute every year of that 30. Also, the public union workers pay taxes on every pay check! Google it if you don't believe me. See what happens to the small business around the area in California when their pay was furloughed. The small business suffered and some went out of business because the state workers could not afford to buy anything.
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forestnfama
I was born at a very early age....
04:21 AM on 02/15/2011
Another idea would to tax the hell out of companies who are making money on the war. War profiteering is super drag on our economy and only perpetuates the industrial military complex.
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forestnfama
I was born at a very early age....
04:19 AM on 02/15/2011
Jerry Brown is probably the most experienced and thoughtful politician in America. If the other politicians had a quarter of his success this country would be great again. Between the lying politicians and the greedy people who are adverse to paying for government, California along with the United States has become the first, first world, third world country. Our problem is we have bought into the BS Reagan was spouting about government being a drag on the economy thereby fulfilling a prophecy by the de-funding of government by tax reductions to the rich loopholes for corporations. My opinion is a consumer tax especially on things the rich buy....... I can all ready hear from the yacht industry crying that the higher taxes will kill there business.......I say BS....the rich are more rich than they have ever been and paying taxes would have really no affect on their pocket book.
05:30 AM on 02/15/2011
Help us Smart People.You stole that money by holding up restaurants.And being Smart.And Bad! And Badly Smart.
Now, I'm having fun with you (And God knows it's deserved),but it's now ordained California is to fail (Diffidently, I poijt out in a crisis you elected Jerry (chuckle) Brown.I'm most interested in how your defense mechanisms will deal with this collapse. Do you rail more about the Bad Smart People /Or,is there an epiphany in your future where you say, "I've been stupid." Please keep posting ,so I can observe.
Thanking you for your efforts.
Corwin
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SPacific
Get a clue, then get a life
01:57 PM on 02/15/2011
I see you're still stuck on stupid Corwin.......just like most other republicans....
03:10 PM on 02/15/2011
Actually a tax on yachts was tried. What happened is that people bought fewer yachts (and boats as well since the levee was placed on all the toys), and boat yards closed down, people were let go and .... well they decided it wasn't such a good idea and rescinded the tax. Even John Kerry, Senior Senator from MA, kept his $7 million yacht out of MA to avoid $400k in sales tax and $70k annual property tax. So those employed in making and servicing boats are hoping you don't get what you wish for. I don't own a boat, but I love seeing them on the water and knowing that their manufacture and care is employing people in an interesting and rewarding profession.
12:32 AM on 02/15/2011
Here is an idea, California is owed billions of dollars from people who have not paid their state taxes. I read somewhere it is around 100 billion but I could be wrong about that. Before raising taxes on the rest of us, why do we not go after these deadbeat who do not pay their taxes?
05:35 AM on 02/15/2011
Shrewd point. It's actually a gazilliondollars. Unfortunately,like you, i can offer no links.But,collecting money from deadbeats -especially those with no known assets or adresses (see Illegal immigrants/ER bills) is an idea whose time has come.
And,it's a rebuke to the trolls (mainly Smart People) who criticize HP for a lack of substance.Have you ever considered politics as a career / California can use a mind that thinks like yours
11:32 AM on 02/15/2011
here's the link - http://www.ftb.ca.gov/individuals/txdlnqnt.shtml - liens are filed but clearly it's ineffective...
11:22 AM on 02/15/2011
Interesting point. But how much would it cost to track them down and litigate? And do they have the money to even pay once tracked down? It sounds good and is morally right, but is it logistically possible?
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Scott Zwartz
10:43 PM on 02/14/2011
If Brown gets rid of the CRA's, then he can raise taxes.

We do not mind paying more taxes if and only if the give-aways to the millionaires and billionaires stop. Abolishing the CRA's is step one in getting us to increase taxes
06:31 PM on 02/14/2011
Let me start off by disclosing I voted for Jerry Brown. I despised Meg Whitman's audacity thinking she could buy the election. But I am not inclined to vote for the tax extension and here is why. If Jerry Brown doesn't address the 2 ton elephant in the room, aka the unsustainable State and City salary and pensions ripoff, with a clear and concise plan to clean up a massive drain on our state (Chris Christie style - to the unions "either you work with me now or you have nothing to work with later) then throwing good money after bad with no real reform is a useless waste of taxpayer money. Here is a link to an article that just touches the tip of the iceberg.....

http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-02-07/bay-area/27105627_1_unused-vacation-police-brass-bart-police

Best line is by the resources spokesperson Jennifer Johnston "We have no discretion on vacation payouts. They are mandatory under state law,"

Probably should start there.
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GoodbyeRubyTuesday
Daring Denouncer of Dominionists
07:07 PM on 02/14/2011
Jerry Brown has addressed the "2 ton elephant", as you call it.
Go to jerrybrown.org, "Solutions" tab, "Pension Reform". Brown gives some history and then states his plan.
Maybe you will rethink your vote so we Californians can get a fresh start.
07:23 PM on 02/14/2011
The first line reads, in part, "State government has to honor commitments that have been made......" We can't sustain what we have now - how is he going to continue to honor those commitments? So while his solutions look promising going forward - the 2 ton elephant is still in the room.

How can we have a "fresh" start when we are bringing along the same "old luggage"?
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Nebris
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10:02 PM on 02/14/2011
Ever heard of Contract Law? All the banks holding your various debt obligations certainly have.
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03:10 AM on 02/15/2011
As we have seen in the mortgage meltdowns, contracts mean nothing....nada.
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jimmygeewhiz
is it 4/20 yet?
06:22 PM on 02/14/2011
The State Legislature needs to be removed in it's entirety. There's not a more dysfunctional body except maybe the US Legislature. Good luck Mr.Brown, if anyone can pull this off, you can.
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JPMac
03:43 PM on 02/14/2011
Brown is smart and no doubt right that without the extension, at least, of the higher tax rates, the state is fiscally doomed.

No the state is already fiscally doomed has been for a long time now!!!
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Awake-and-Sing
named after a great play written by Clifford Odets
01:27 PM on 02/14/2011
Gov. Brown doesn't want to propose a budget of what California would look like if the taxes are not renewed because he doesn't want to be seen trying to scare people into supporting these tax extensions.

I think people need to be scared.

This discredited conservative lie that tax cuts leads to more government revenue so that no hard choices ever be made or that someone ELSE's "wasteful" spending will be cut instead has been sold by conservatives for so long that people don't really accept that government services actually need to be paid for.

When that doesn't work, conservatives harp on "waste, fraud and abuse". Where is this mythical "waste, fraud and abuse" conservatives delude themselves is there. Dukemejian couldn't find it. Wilson couldn't find it. Schwarzenegger couldn't find it. One person's "waste" is another person's lifeline.

In any event, if Gov. Brown won't do it, the Democrats in the legislature should put forth themselves a budget if no taxes are extended so that the California people can see for themselves.

Just make sure those Republican-voting counties in rural California that would be wastelands if it weren't for the prison-industrial complex are set up for the biggest cuts first.
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
02:48 PM on 02/14/2011
Yep he'll figure, yup now the cuts WILL get close to home taxpayers/electorate will FINALLY see the connection between government services and the taxes they pay.
03:40 PM on 02/14/2011
PPACA claims to be able to wring over $500 billion "waste, fraud, and abuse" out of Medicare to pay for Obamacare. Are you telling me that this "mythical" money isn't there? Half a trillion....... I know it's here somewhere..................
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Awake-and-Sing
named after a great play written by Clifford Odets
04:02 PM on 02/14/2011
Get back to us when you want to cut the trillions of waste, fraud and abuse in the Pentagon which doesn't keep us safer and only feeds the trough for Halliburton and the military-industrial complex.
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03:12 AM on 02/15/2011
they or someone says that every year, yet no one is able to identify just where all this massive fraud, waste, and abuse is....so that we can cut it.....
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Bibulus
On my way back from Hawaii with the long-form bio
12:22 PM on 02/14/2011
We Californian voters are actually quite simple to please.

All we want is a world class infrastructure, the best public school and University system in the country, virtually no property taxes, plenty of police, firemen, and nurses, tough environmental regulation, and a ham sammich. Surely we can tax the Martians or something for the revenue, right? Because above all else, and especially down in Orange County, we want these things as long as we don't have to actually pay for them.

Good luck dealing with 30 million delusional children Jerry!
charles77
Just the Facts Please
12:43 PM on 02/14/2011
LOL, great post!

You left out banning coal fired electric plants then importing 40% of electricity from coal plants in other states.
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Bibulus
On my way back from Hawaii with the long-form bio
02:11 PM on 02/14/2011
Oh my, how could I forget out energy delusion? Thanks for pointing out my oversight. Then again, I also neglected our penchant for passing infrastructure propositions while simultaneously rejecting their accompanying funding prop, or our ambivalence with our water allocations, or our ...well, anyhow like I said before, GOOD LUCK JERRY!
02:00 PM on 02/14/2011
We'd also like improved job and real estate markets. The recent crop of high school and college graduates are still living with mom and dad and the prospects for a job are bleak. Sure, we need to pay taxes to support the government services we want, but no jobs = no taxes.
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
02:50 PM on 02/14/2011
Cal. economy shouldn't be dependent on RE markets as it's lately been shown.
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Bibulus
On my way back from Hawaii with the long-form bio
11:47 PM on 02/14/2011
My oldest son is currently a freshman at U.C. studying bioengineering and while his old room remains open we hope it doesn't become necessary. Crazy times indeed. Given the infrastructure we currently have which was designed for a state population of 19 million we certainly should be investing for jobs, tax revenue (and money multiplier), and our future. Look at all the great rain and snowpack this year going to waste.
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jmpurser
See My micro-bio
08:59 AM on 02/14/2011
It's only a "gamble" if you have a chance at winning.
02:28 AM on 02/14/2011
If the republicans don't let it on the ballot the message is.

THe Republican party has decided that the voters do not get to decide if they want to pay more to keep inmates off the street, to protect our states education system and preserve the golden state. I and the democrats will do what we can to limit the pain of the republican parties decision but we are now forced to release prisoners, cut education, decrease spending on infrastructure.

If the republicans decide to let it on the ballot. You make the case to the voters about the programs you intend to protect why it is the right hard decision but that you respect in this time it is their decision if they want more cuts to schools inmates released early and based on their decision you and the democrats will implement their will.

i.e. he is engineering a no lose situation for him and the democratic party. And if anyone thinks he's bluffing they should remember what he did after prop 13 passed.
03:46 PM on 02/14/2011
I would add to the message that the people of Egypt demonstrated in the streets for 18 days in support of democracy, yet the Republicans will not allow the people of California to decide whether thay want to continue the taxes or not. I'm not sure, when it comes down to it, what choice the electorate will make, but at least we should let the majority of the people decide.
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GoldwaterKid
Vote Person, Not Party
01:20 AM on 02/14/2011
For some reason, I feel like Jerry Brown is in the right place at the right time.

It's not the end of the world as we know it, but it has to change, and it will take both parties to get together and create a plan for the State.

He, at least is trying, and not afraid of what people think of him.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
12:41 PM on 02/14/2011
I agree. If a GOP governor was in, all his cuts would be labeled as "mean GOP politics".

Just as only Nixon could go to China without appearing "soft on commies", only Brown can propose cuts to DEM favored programs with any chance of success.
09:57 PM on 02/13/2011
"He all but hinted at the end of the world as we know it!"

What kind of a journalist would write THAT ???

Major, major FAIL, Mr. Feldman.