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Chez Pazienza

Posted: October 22, 2010 09:08 AM

Live Semi-Nude Glee Girls

What's Your Reaction:

I'm a straight 40-year-old male who doesn't much like Madonna and isn't still nursing psychic wounds from being profoundly tortured for his lunch money in the 9th grade -- which means that I couldn't care less about Glee.

That said, it's entertaining the level of at best concern, at worst outright indignation currently being voiced over a new GQ pictorial which features a couple of members of the Glee cast cavorting around in fantasy tart-wear on a set made to look like a high school hallway. The arguments seem to be that a) showing grown women who play teenagers on TV sexing it up is creepy/sick (the straight female argument), b) it's sexist and entirely unfair that Lea Michele and Dianna Agron strip for the photos while hunky guy Cory Monteith remains predictably clothed (the gay male argument), and c) "Arrrgh!!! No!!! Sex and television characters!!! What about our children?!? GOD SMASH!!" (the Parents Television Council argument).

For the life of me I'll never understand the current pop cultural obsession with Glee; it's not an awful show by any means, but it's a damn near perfect example of a phenomenon that's taken on a life of its own and which is now wildly out of proportion with the thing that spawned it. To its legion of rabid fans, Glee is critic-proof; try bringing up the show's many flaws to any self-proclaimed "Gleek" and you may as well be at a Tea Party rally trying to reason with an obese woman on a Hoveround.

But back to the photo shoot: Artists have been creating and patrons have been commissioning images of attractive, underdressed women since just about the dawn of time. Jesus, at least Michele and Agron are actually legal, as opposed to, say, Miley Cyrus, who has no issue giving potential pedophiles real spank material by posing topless before the age of 18. And that's really what it comes down to anyway: Whatever you think of the pictures, even if you've got a problem with the fact that the photographer who took them is kind of a notorious letch, the fact remains that the two adult women -- and one adult man, for that matter -- willingly went along with the shoot and did it for a magazine aimed at fellow adults. If they don't have an issue with posing that way, I can't bring myself to raise holy hell about the fact that they did.

Plus, at least something finally made Glee, and these characters, interesting for me.

 

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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
11:41 AM on 10/25/2010
Love Glee, hate musicals. The photos aren't that surprising if one actually pays attention to the writing of the show (which is why I watch...and Jane Lynch). I'm way past teen, but that show hits on so many elements of my high school years just right. I wasn't in the glee club or on the football team or in any of the cliques described, but they certainly all existed. The show deals with sexuality frankly, so racy photos are not a surprise to me. And surprise to parents, your teenage kids are already thinking of sex 100x more than you are. It's not their fault or the media, it's just how we're built, hormones and such. So, if you're truly shocked by the photos, don't have your kids watch Glee because GQ has not pushed the show's envelope one bit. It hasn't even reached the edges. However, if you choose to keep them from watching, you'll also miss some of the more powerful messages of acceptance (deaf glee club, kids coming out to their parents, the cheerleader with Downs' Syndrome who is never talked down to, etc.). Up to you, but don't blame GQ.
10:10 AM on 10/23/2010
I'll be glad when the "remember when glee was popular" chorus strikes up.
06:15 PM on 10/22/2010
now that we all agree that school uniforms are soft porn...not child should be REQUIRED to wear them.
05:27 PM on 10/22/2010
Ho Hum. Anyone remember the 80s? My 11-year old daughter had a tantrum because I wouldn't let her wear a "Boy Toy" belt like Madonna. Ditto cone bras, latex panties, low riding skirts, etc. Check the library for the mags of the day - the same arguments for both sides appear that we see in this blog.
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HeevenSteven
20 Minutes into the future.
03:24 PM on 10/22/2010
Nothing wrong with flaunting talent.
03:12 PM on 10/22/2010
My two girls enjoy watching Glee, but I watch it with them and we discuss. The show is racy to begin with. They've had:

1. Girls making out - with girls.
2. Britney Spears dancing in next to nothing.
3. Rachel in a leather bodysuit.
4. Mostly naked men cavorting with Olivia Newton John.

Glee is not marketed to children. The pictures aren't either.
06:16 PM on 10/22/2010
.so they should be rated by the censors as adult and not be scheduled before 9pm.
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ProfWagstaff
Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted.
09:42 AM on 10/24/2010
OR if parents feel like you do they could put down the bag of Doritos, get their behinds up off the couch and do their job as parents by monitoring what the kiddies are watching.
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courtb
06:08 AM on 10/25/2010
The same way shows like Gossip Girl are scheduled after 9? Oh, hmm.
02:23 PM on 10/22/2010
Dude totally agree...

I used run to the other side of the house and my family when that show
used to start BUT NOW I'll check it out after those pictures!

Thanks GQ I thoroughly enjoyed the pics :-)
GraceNotes
We live for books.
02:12 PM on 10/22/2010
Chez, thanks for the post. I can assure you there are a few straight women arguing b)!
But I do have a problem with the photographer getting a free pass in this. Yes, he was probably hired by GQ for exactly the kind of photo shoot he is known for, and that is what he gave them. Fox keeps their actors on a short leash, and there you have three corporate entities with a financial stake in this. You can bet they just love all this controversy, no matter what anyone says.
01:46 PM on 10/22/2010
I find it strange that nobody seems to have a problem with all of the half-naked men who play teenagers on shows such as Smallville (the very first print ad was a shirtless Clark on a cross in the middle of a cornfield,even!)while this is a major issue.

It's as if they believe the fact that women on average have less body mass than men that they are literally less of adults than men are and as such can't make informed decisions about how much or how little they want to wear. Wait,but wouldn't that make all heterosexuality pedophilic molestation?
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
01:17 PM on 10/22/2010
Conservatives are doing everything in their power to make sure all our childrens understand that the human body is evil, especially the female body, which is why it needs to be regulated.
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alsm9
Bombshell
02:46 PM on 10/22/2010
I'm as left wing as you get...I'm not American, and I have a problem with this photoshoot. So it's not accurate to paint this as conservative opposition. It's not the "nakedness" that is the problem or the actresses ages. Doesn't anyone understand context??!! It's the fact that they are portraying underage highschool students, Lea Michelle is in her undies spread eagle on a school gym locker bench. It's the story the photo is telling.
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
09:25 PM on 10/22/2010
Maybe you need to start learning the difference between TV and reality.

On TV, they are in high school. In reality, the are almost 30 years old!
01:16 PM on 10/22/2010
I want to point out that every comment I have made here has been labelled "abusive". None have been deleted ....yet.
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dsws
No owning ideas. Limit only commercial use.
12:24 PM on 10/22/2010
"The arguments seem to be that a) showing grown women who play teenagers on TV sexing it up is creepy"

What's creepy is not that they portray teenagers on tv. What's creepy is that they portrayed teenagers while posing nearly-naked. It's no more or less creepy than producing images of sexualized underage girls by drawing with a pencil and paper, or by playing with Photoshop, or any other method that doesn't involve any actual underage girls.
12:39 PM on 10/22/2010
...what is creepy is this show is not rated adult entertainment.
12:41 PM on 10/22/2010
Do you agree that any 12 should now be able to present themselves like these (the characters) images on facebook...they can certainly point to the censors who say this is a kids show and say...well...the censors didn't have any problem with it.
12:21 PM on 10/22/2010
hmm...I bet there is a school out their who require kids to wear the exact plaid skirts shown here. I bet they have a pretty good case against GQ and these girls for copyright infringement.
12:17 PM on 10/22/2010
Based on the many observations on this blog that depictions of girls in school uniforms is a common sexual male fantasy, it should be ILLEGAL to require children to wear them.
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c-tom
Badges we don't need no stinking badges
10:28 PM on 10/22/2010
And cheerleader outfits and police women, meter maids, nurses or any other woman in uniform should all all under this ban. A less common but still a male fantasy would be a woman in a burqa so better ban them too.
08:53 AM on 10/23/2010
...except shool-girl uniforms are worn by children.
11:32 AM on 10/22/2010
GQ didn't do anything wrong

Fox did
Their advertising campaign for a show targeted towards 12 year old was highly sexualized

It received criticism
I don't see what's so strange about this story

You guys are pretending like these girls did these photo shoots themselves. That's just not the case. This is the official advertising campaign for the show
11:46 AM on 10/22/2010
There seems to be alot of debate as to who watches this show. I have heard age 8, you say 12, others say adults...obviously GQ thinks it is age 25+ males. I expect you agree that it would be appropriate for a fan of ANY age to duplicate these shots. A school uniform is just that...a uniform. If stewardesses and teachers get fired for appearing in lewd photographs with their uniforms on...it is perfectly reasonable that actresses would get fired for doing the same in their professional uniform.
12:18 PM on 10/22/2010
There is no way that firing the actors makes sense

These pictures were arranged by the producers of the show. It is the official advertising campaign for Glee. If it were just the actresses posing by themselves as self promotion not tied to the show nobody would have said anything