I had CNN's Situation Room on in the background, when I saw the sight of Senator John McCain and Senator Joseph Lieberman on my TV screen. As you probably know, Lieberman has endorsed Republican McCain for President.
(You also know but for any who have forgotten: Lieberman was a Democrat, then lost his party's 2006 primary to the anti-Iraq-war candidate Ned Lamont, then ran for the Senate anyway as an Independent, and won almost all of the Republican vote and 20% of the Democratic vote. And he's an Independent in the Senate, but is counted as a Democrat.)
On the Situation Room, McCain talked about the surge is working, the surge is working. (Violence is down, and now we can stay there babysitting and shooting and getting shot for the next 10 to 20 years. Yippeee!)
And then Lieberman, asked about his 2006 campaign, said it was important he had defeated the pro-Lamont, antiwar part of the Democratic party because once the 2008 Presidential campaign came around the Lamont part of the party would have trouble with "the American people, who know we're at war with a brutal enemy who attacked us on 9/11."
"We are at war with a brutal enemy who attacked us on 9/11."
Really, Senator Lieberman, and who would that be?
Are we back to looking for Bin Laden in Afghanistan? Have we decided to hell with Musharraf and we've invaded Pakistan to track down Al-Qaeda? Have we deposed the royal family in Saudi Arabia, where most of the hijackers came from, and we've decided to impose democracy on that country?
I'm not in favor of invading Pakistan or deposing the Saudi Arabian royal family, but as ideas they at least CONNECT with 9/11.
But Senator Lieberman didn't mean any of that, did he?
He meant to imply (to mislead, distort, to lie)... that our invading Iraq, a country that did NOT attack us, is connected to the 19 terrorist hijackers who attacked us on 9/11.
And it is not connected, is it, Senator Lieberman, or Senator McCain?
We were not attacked by a country. We were attacked by members of an organization. By 19 individuals who belonged to the terrorist group Al-Qaeda, which had safe haven in Afghanistan (not in Iraq!).
Class, what countries were the individual terrorists from?
Answer: "Fifteen of the attackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon."
Class, and how many on that list were from Iraq?
Answer: "16."
No, Vice President Cheney, that is the wrong answer, please sit down again. What? You're going to gather your own intelligence to analyze this list? Very well. Only spend just a few billion dollars on it, alright?
In the lead up to the war, Cheney and Bush and others spent LOTS of time misleading the American people about the non-existent connection between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks.
But the administration a couple of years ago let go of trying to push that connection (except for Cheney).
And on TV Bush even once admitted there was no connection, which he said in a mumbled, annoyed voice when asked the question explicitly by some reporter during a press conference. (Asked long after we'd been there, of course).
But here is Senator Lieberman SELLING THAT LIE again. And McCain smiled benignly in the background.
I mean most of the liars in the Republicans party who continue to hawk this war and claim it's for our safety no longer try to tie Iraq with 9/11.
They usually do the song and dance about "the war on terror" and we have to fight it everywhere, and now there IS Al-Qaeda in Iraq, though it wasn't there before we invaded. And if we don't fight them over there, we'll have to fight them here. (That last bellicose bromide is said often by McCain.)
I just found Lieberman intoning "the American people... know we're at war with a brutal enemy who attacked us on 9/11" to be enraging. Enraging. We've gone past that lie.
Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor. Then we attacked back. We didn't react to Japan's attack by bombing Korea, did we? Or by invading China? Or by attacking Connecticut, who elected the dense and smiling Mr. Lieberman. Elected him over and over again.
Bush and Cheney sold this war first for our self-defense (we were in DANGER from Saddam, and we had to act IN THE NEXT TEN MINUTES OR ELSE). Then when there were no WMD's, the justification changed to we were creating democracy there. Then we were babysitting a civil war (well other people said that, Bush kept saying it wasn't true). Now it's calmer there, but it's hardly safe, and so what is the result of that? Now we're to be there for ever and ever? At billions a week, or is it a billion a minute by now?
I find it appalling and shocking that we are in a war, with men and women dying and being horribly maimed, when it was undertaken under false pretenses. And when as many of us believe, our being there as an occupier makes us less and less safe, and creates more terrorists. It's not a good bargain. You break it, you own it, said ex-Secretary of State Colin Powell, referring to the Pottery Barn Rule. How I wish we had invaded Pottery Barn. Then at least we'd have some nice merchandise, and could use some of it to give as Christmas presents.
And Lieberman just re-brought out that old, biggest lie about the war again, the supposed connection between our Iraq and 9/11. Enough with that lie.
Senator Lieberman is despicable.
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Nevermind the bullets and stuff, what's going
on in money-land? We're going bankrupt.
Invading Connecticut, whose beknighted voters stuck the rest of us with Holy (Holier-than-thou??) Joe Lieberman is not the worst idea I've heard lately........................tm
To examine half-truths just a little more,
the Saudi Arabians hijackers involved in
9/11 would still be locked up as subversives
in their native land, if the authorities had
had any inkling of their activities, no doubt.
They were NOT typical Saudis.
As for Al Qaeda in Iraq, obviously they are
our main enemy there, NOW. We just had to
take it upon ourselves to create that
opportunity for them. Thanks to guys like
Joe Lieberman & George Bush, who are both
pretty good prognosticators, as it turns out.
I'm waiting for the McCain and Lieberman duet of that chart topper,
Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb IRAN
One thing Joe can really deliver for McBush...is the youth vote.
ROFLMQAO!
The BEST advertisement for increasing the number of Democratic US Senators, (and should be the front cover of ALL Democratic mailers.)
is a photo of Joe (Cheney) Lieberman, and say elect...Democrat so and so, and you'll NEVER have to listen to another thing Lieberman thinks or says about....well... ANYTHING!
no contry deserves to be shot at and have its false wealth drained as much as we americans. huge military budget every year supported by demos and repubs and voters alike.
want to be a super power and steal others resources then we must pay the price in blood and wealth. bye bye middle class hello to a new facist america of haves and have nots.
and we wonder why the russian youth fear america more than any other country. with one third the oil reserves in the world think about it. the bush crime family knows how to smell oil and when jeb is elected he will head straight for russia.
puppet government worked in iraq why not russia.
Lieberman would have contempt for some one who denies the Holocaust, a proven fact. We should have contempt for Lieberman asserting Iraq aided the 911 attack, proven false.
Lieberman was never truly a Democrat, just a closet Rebublican. Why he was ever re-elected goes beyound reason but then again people actually voted for BOOSH in 04 long after the Iraqi War mess.There is no accounting for how stupid the people of this country are, tell'em theres a connection between Iraq and 9/11 and a bunch of dumbasses will believe it everytime!
I will not watch Fox News but will watch some of MSNBC and Oberman is great but Tucker is a jerk!Tucker said how he admired Rudy ...I thought I would vomit!
Joe Lieberman is lower than whale dung. As for McCain he's one angry man, because of his long stretch in a P.O.W. camp, but he tries hard to hide that anger. That P.O.W. time is something he believes entitles him to be president - that it's owed to him. I don't suppose he's ever thought of it as karma for his involvement in attacking innocent people living in hamlets that were of no military value but were just targeted to demoralize.
McCain probably thinks Vietnam should have "surrendered unconditionally" the way the Axis Powers did to end WW II. (Has he ever acknowledged we were wrong to be in Vietnam in the first place?) Recent wars,sanctioned by the military/industrial complex, haven't ended with unconditional surrender. Given their nature how could they have? If McCain were president he would likely pursue something akin to unconditional surrender in Iraq, but he wouldn't grasp just who should or would surrender and for what purpose.
I don't see much difference between saying Iraq was involved and saying Afghanistan was involved. Neither has been proven, and the CIA destroying tapes just makes that obvious.
Iraq Iran -- Iraq Iran-- Iraq Iran- North Korea
Iraq Iran == Iraq Iran== Iraq Iran = North Korea
The Easiest solution for War since the Dulles Doctrine. No investigation necessary.
If Lieberman really believes so deeply in his position why does he have to lie to defend it?If he believes deposing Saddam was a good idea, why does he have to create false connections between Iraq and 9/11? It shows the unsupportabilty of his position that Lieberman must still lie to defend his position on the war. And if he is drawing false connections, what is the basis for his support of the war? Does he just like war for the sake of war? He should either be honest or reconsider his position.
IN MY OPINION, LIEBERMANN AND MANY OF THOSE "GROWING OLDER WHILE IN OFFICE, SHOULD STEP ASIDE AND LET THE YOUNGER MEN AND WOMEN GET THEIR CHANCE TO "FIX WHAT BUSH AND THOSE I SPEAK ABOUT BROKE"....THIS OLD PERSON IS SO DISAPPOINTED IN THE PRESENT DAY POLITICIANS.. IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD OUR FAILURES BUT NOW WE HAVE MANY MORE OF THEM............
Lieberman and McCain are chronic liars, continually trying to convince the American people that Israeli oppression of the Palestinians is not the problem, when the entire world is only too well aware of that fact. Squandering hundreds of billions of dollars on maintaining a colossal US war machine in the Middle East will not enable Israel to keep the illegal settlements and achieve long-term stability.
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