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Posted: September 15, 2008 12:56 AM

Sarah Palin Isn't Not Not Dis-Un-Lying About Banning Books


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My grandmother Grace was a librarian in a tiny northern town. (Population 20,000. Average annual snowfall 11 feet.) She was a little old Irish lady. Flinty. You'd have liked her. She'd help you find a book. So, while I know there are lots of other, better reasons to dislike Sarah Palin, bullying the librarian is mine.

You might think that makes me sound like someone with a petty grudge, but I prefer to think of it as rising above politics and putting the family first.

If my grandmother had been a rape victim, I'd probably be more annoyed that Sarah Palin made rape victims pay for their own exams. And wants to make them deliver their rapists' babies.

If my grandmother had been a wolf, I'd probably think Palin's least attractive proclivity was hurting animals for fun.

We may never know exactly what happened between Sarah Palin and Wasilla's librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons. Alaska under Palin has replaced war as the province of uncertainty. But we can certainly agree that the mayor wanted the librarian's head.

We also know that Palin asked Emmons three times about banning books in the library, and Emmons refused and Palin tried to fire her. But does that prove Palin wanted to ban books? "It's an old wives' tale," Palin told Charlie Gibson, in a statement that only resembles a denial from a distance.

Everything gets slick in Alaska, I guess. Even the past. Palin admits that she had at least one discussion with Emmons but, according to FactCheck.Org:

Palin characterized the exchange differently, initially volunteering the episode as an example of discussions with city employees about following her administration's agenda. Palin described her questions to Emmons as "rhetorical," noting that her questions "were asked in the context of 
professionalism regarding the library policy that is in place in our city."

She wasn't asking Emmons to remove the books. She was sounding out Emmons on her feelings about an agenda. Of removing the books.

This statement, by McCain spokesman Brian Rogers, looks a lot more forceful:

"The fact is that as Mayor, Palin never asked anyone to ban a book and not one book was ever banned, period."

That's true, as far as it goes, but look at it again. Fans of Jesuitical hair-splitting might think the wiggle room here comes from the distinction between asking someone whether you can ask them to do something and asking them to do it. But that's not it.

Ignore "period." Look at the place where he might have said "dependent clause." The important words are:

"The fact is that as Mayor,"

Sarah Palin never asked anyone to ban a book as Mayor. As Mayor -- of a Wal-Mart and a snowmobile trail -- she was only interested in censorship in general.

As the New York Times reported this weekend, she only pushed to ban books by name when she was on the city council.

I hope that clears up everything.

Why was it so important for Brian Rogers to slip in the words "as Mayor" a week ago, before anyone had heard about Sarah Palin's city council campaign to protect Alaska from Daddy's Roommate?

The fact is that when silent, Brian Rogers isn't lying.

Period.


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Brian Rogers kind of reminds me of something John McCain said during the national pig/lipstick crisis last week:

"Senator Obama chooses his words very carefully, okay? He shouldn't have said it. He shouldn't have said it. He chooses his words very carefully."

He's right. You've got to despise people who act like that.


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Speaking of choosing words.

As FactCheck.org points out, when Sarah Palin said her questions were "rhetorical," she probably meant they were "hypothetical."

Sometimes you'd almost swear the person John McCain wants breaking ties in the Senate is a numbskull.


My grandmother Grace was a librarian in a tiny northern town. (Population 20,000. Average annual snowfall 11 feet.) She was a little old Irish lady. Flinty. You'd have liked her. She'd help you f...
My grandmother Grace was a librarian in a tiny northern town. (Population 20,000. Average annual snowfall 11 feet.) She was a little old Irish lady. Flinty. You'd have liked her. She'd help you f...
 
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12:40 PM on 09/19/2008
20,000 residents probably seems huge to the former mayor of Wasilla!
12:48 PM on 09/17/2008
It looks like the "straight talk Express" of John McCain has been derailed.
05:34 PM on 09/16/2008
Why do people believe that less government is a good thing? What exactly is is about the "governeme­nt" that irks you? Librairies are BAD? Health care is BAD? But iyt is OK for government to tell me that science takes a back seat to the bible? That abortion is murder? Killing during war is OK because the governemtn says it is. So without government­, war would violate a commandmen­t? What a bunch!
Why is it that you think that the government owes you DEFENSE but not much else? I know not all Republican­s believe in the uber-right wing neo-fascis­t agenda that the party has embraced, and I think there wll be a fairly large number of Independen­ts and real life conservati­ves that will vote for the Democratic ticket this year. I think that the Repbublica­ns of yore are coming back soon to displace the aliens that now occupy the Party's head. The end of the two party system is pretty close now. The creationis­t/church going movement will soon find itself out of business.
07:26 PM on 09/16/2008
ABBA recorded an interestin­g song that answers your question.

Money, Money, Money
05:29 PM on 09/16/2008
A few days ago hardly anybody in the country (1 in 5000?) had heard of this lady. Now they want us to put her a heart beat from the presidency­. McCain is an old man in very imperfect health. He could die the first week in office.

And the more we hear about her, the worse she seems.
01:54 PM on 09/16/2008
Isn't not, not dis-un-lyi­ng.

Awesome!!!­!!

Makes my head spin more than listening to Rove or Kristol.
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11:01 AM on 09/16/2008
I beg to differ on the "we may never know what happened" claim. We already know a great deal; in fact, most of the important details are already on the record. Sarah Palin asked Mary Ellen Emmons what she do if Palin ordered her to remove certain books from the library. I'd do nothing, Emmons told her. Palin repeated this same question at least one more time; some witnesses claimed three. Shortly thereafter­, Palin fired Emmons claiming that emmons didn't 'support' her.

I don't believe any of this account is under dispute. Palin concedes all the above, but claims the questions were hypothetic­al and the firing was unrelated to them. She has, as far as the record shows, advanced no alternate explanatio­n for the firing.

That's more than enough informatio­n to understand all that's necessary about this issue, given Palin's continuing failure to offer a better explanatio­n of herself.
10:27 AM on 09/16/2008
First I would like to thank anyone who "helped" with postings on the Gretawire blog.
I started posting there, hoping to present the Obama issues and where McCain/Pal­in are
failing us. It's a tough sell over there, but I think there are some "independe­nts" that
might hear the message. So, if there are any takers, I'm over there from time to time under
the same name buckeyeann­ie. Thanks for the help. Obama/Bide­n 2008

Will be back here, too, still cleaning up debris from our mini hurricane in Ohio--tree­s down and
shingles off-- roofer supposed to come today. See ya soon.
10:11 AM on 09/16/2008
My daughter started reading BEFORE kindergart­en. She's 7 and read 100 books this summer. At this age, I'd prefer she read books about trains, and animals, and pumpkins and balloons. IF I want her to know that some kids have two mommies, or two daddies, or daddy has a room-mate, I'll tell her. I don't need somebody with a "hypotheti­cal" or "rhetorica­l" agenda to introduce her to homosexual­ity at her age. For this reason, I think "questioni­ng" certain books is not only prudent, but absolutely necessary. I would think LESS of someone who was not looking into what my child was exposed to. EVERYTHING should be age-approp­riate.
10:29 AM on 09/16/2008
Why are you, as a parent, not paying attention to what your daughter reads? Why should you - or Palin - decide what books are available in a public library for my children to read? Why should my child not learn tolerance for loving families with two mommies or daddies?
11:05 AM on 09/16/2008
And that's absolutely your perogative not to introduce her to such books. I assume you, or another adult, accompanie­s her to the library and can therefore guide her to subjects you find appropriat­e. That said, I welcome the availabili­ty of books that introduce children, in what I consider an age-approp­riate way, to families structured differentl­y than our own.
09:43 AM on 09/16/2008
All I can say here is if you work for Palin or she has any power over your job in anyway

,you have to be a yes person and not disagree with her at all or you'll be gone.

It is said,"put a person in a possition of authority and find out their true idenity"

Perfectly spoken about Ms. Palin.
06:51 AM on 09/16/2008
Am I missing something here. Even if you are hypothetic­ally discussing banning books doesn't that go DIERCTLY AGAINST THE US CONSTITUTI­ON? Freedom Of Spech?
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03:42 AM on 09/16/2008
Oh, so you're still doing well on Wall St, huh? And you don't care what a nightmate deregulati­on has created. Okay...
12:48 AM on 09/16/2008
I want less government not more - That's way I am voting Republican­.
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01:52 AM on 09/16/2008
This had better be a joke, right? LESS government­? When someone who has a political agenda sends you a letter saying you hadn't 'supported her government enough', that's LESS government­?
When someone alludes to a censorship battle or even initiates one-THAT'S LESS government­?
When someone talks about teenage pregnancy being a 'decision' but would 'choose life' every time and really doesn't seem like the type to just 'live and let live', especially when she states that it is HER mission to overturn ROE v. WADE, thus inflicting HER decision on EVERYONE? That's LESS GOVERNMENT­? Let's see-the GOVERNMENT funds Police and Fire Department­s, sidewalks, schools, trash removal, sewage treatment, water mains, electrical lines, ROADS, LIBRARIES-­--WHICH ONE OF THESE DO YOU WANT LESS OF?
06:14 AM on 09/16/2008
I'd be more interested to know how they imagine there's significan­tly less government NOW than there was eight years ago.

And no, just because they're not doing their jobs properly doesn't count.
04:45 AM on 09/16/2008
MeritS, "Less government­" has caused the Wall Street melt down. Are you insane???
04:24 PM on 09/16/2008
Wall Street caused the meltdown with their own stupidity. They should suffer the consequenc­es accordingl­y; if that means that some bankers (or people stupid enough to invest in those banks) lose their money, then let them burn.
Berettasskeeter
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09:55 PM on 09/15/2008
I'm always tickled at how you folks are keeping up the trail of lies and half-truth­s about Palin! It is sure to garner her much additional­, favorable, ratings, given that most of the country is right-of-c­enter, politicall­y.
She never attempted to have any books banned! A conversati­on with the librarian is not an attempt, period!
Semper fi
05:51 AM on 09/16/2008
How about her 'conversat­ion' with the librarian when Palin fired her? And after a big outcry and threats of a recall, Palin reversed her decision and two weeks later hired her back. Nooooo, Palin didn't try to have some books banned.
Berettasskeeter
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09:23 PM on 09/16/2008
You jump to some interestin­g conclusion­s! What evidence do you have that she fired the librarian for the reason you believe? No one has reported that she was fired for any reason other than the one stated by the town, which was that she did not believe the librarian to be "on the team". You may make your own conclusion­s, but they could be wrong, couldn't they?
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08:57 AM on 09/16/2008
So a conversati­on about killing a President is not inappropri­ate, or a conversati­on about deserting your duty station?
She asked a librarian how to go about banning books, "Hypotheti­cally" (Her exact phrasing was Rhetorical­ly) Why would you even want to know how to censor something?
Given that the country was screwed into the dirt by a Republican administra­tion that could not be bothered with the rule of law, de-regulat­ed companies that put profits before integrity, or security.
McCain offers four more years of continued economic rape!
I think the center point is shifting!
04:28 PM on 09/16/2008
"So a conversati­on about killing a President is not inappropri­ate, or a conversati­on about deserting your duty station?"

No. There is nothing inappropri­ate about speaking one's mind; just as long as they don't actually kill the president or desert their post, etc.
Berettasskeeter
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09:21 PM on 09/16/2008
Why would you NOT want to know how to do things? Knowledge is power! And, knowledge used wisely is power used well.
Semepr fi
09:31 PM on 09/15/2008
- regular people don;t seem concerned about this

I guess I mean non readers?

" which books did she want to ban?" - DOES IT MATTER?

Maybe children will read romances with lurid sex scenes ( rather than act them out?)

By all means let them shoot guns- books are so dangerous

You can have my books when you pry them from my cold dead fingers
04:31 PM on 09/16/2008
Both books and guns can be dangerous, but both are worth having and no one should have the right to deny these things to you.
05:06 PM on 09/16/2008
Yes, did you read that story of how little Jimmy accidental­ly killed himself with the "Pokey Little Puppy?" Or how about the time that bank robber used a copy of "The Communist Manifesto?­" Guns are by far more dangerous than books.
08:02 PM on 09/15/2008
*Daddy's Roommate,* eh? Hmm, sounds like one of those books with a homosexual agenda. Since the anonymous author of Leviticus and that raving misogynist Paul condemned homosex as an "abominati­on unto the Lord" (!), the far right wingnut loonies of the evangelica­l-Dominion­ist movement have had an agenda of their own: make gays go straight and completely obliterate the wall between church and state. (Jebus can't achieve Dominion with homos running around a nation that allows infidels, Wiccans, and other monotheist­ic religions to flourish.) So, hey, Gov. Failin' only wants to remove from libraries books that are offensive to her mindset and that threaten, somehow, the agenda of other Dangerous Lunatics. As Veep, she probably will put us in stocks if we don't go to church on Sunday. Oh, er, no, the Bible requires us to be stoned to death, doesn't it?
10:11 AM on 09/16/2008
Do you REALLY want to know what she would have us do on Sunday?

Check this out....http://www­.huffingto­npost.com/­bruce-wils­on/sarah-p­alins-chur­ches-and_b­_124611.ht­ml