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Chris Rodda

Chris Rodda

Posted: September 8, 2010 06:57 PM

During his first post-Restoring-Honor-rally show last Monday, Glenn Beck demonstrated the "contempt" of The Huffington Post by showing his audience some of the photos included in a HuffPost slide show titled "Glenn Beck's Restoring Honor Rally: The Most Ridiculous Messages," which showed some of the messages on the clothing and buttons worn by rally attendees.

Beck, of course, in showing how "contemptible" HuffPost is, didn't show the slide show photos of the people in their "Got Tea?" and other Tea Party t-shirts, or the "Give me Liber-TEA," "I Love My Gun," and "Obama's Worst Nightmare" buttons. After all, Beck had insisted that this was not going to be a Tea Party rally, and had asked the attendees to leave their Tea Party and anti-Obama signs at home. And, following the instructions of their leader, they did. They just displayed their Tea Party messages on their persons instead. So, Beck carefully selected a few photos of people merely looking suitably patriotic in their red, white, and blue and rally-themed "Restoring Honor" attire, and then questioned how anyone could possibly think these people were ridiculous.

But the photo that caught my attention was one of the back of someone's t-shirt, which Beck showed twice, saying, "This is a quote from George Washington -- ridiculous."


Well, Mr. Beck, I would never call a quote from George Washington ridiculous, but I will call the one on that t-shirt what it is -- a fake! Your new pal David Barton should be able to tell you all about that, since even he himself tells his followers not to use this quote. Of course, good old David didn't say anything when John Hagee used this same fake quote on your show a while back, although he was also one of your guests that day, and sitting only a few feet from Hagee. So, you might just want to go to your pal David's own website, where he has his list of "Unconfirmed Quotations" -- a list of quotes that he himself tells his website readers to "refrain from using ... until such time that an original primary source may be found." This George Washington quote is #2 on the list.

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Here's that clip of John Hagee using this fake quote on your show, Mr. Beck:


Now, your pal David will probably say that when he put out his list of taboo quotes over a decade ago, it was merely because he had decided, being such a diligent scholar, to raise the academic standards of his work. But nobody actually buys that. Plain and simple, he got called out by some real historians on some of the bogus quotes that he had used in his 1988 book The Myth of Separation, largely because of Rush Limbaugh's repeated use of one of these bogus quotes. So, he put out his little list of quotes he wasn't going to use anymore, fine-tuned many of the other lies from his 1988 book, and put out a new book, Original Intent, that didn't contain those particular quotes. (His new book still contained plenty of misquotes -- just not those particular ones.)

Of course, Mr. Beck, despite what he says on his website, you should know that your pal David doesn't really want his followers and minions to stop using the quotes on his list, as evidenced not only by his silence when John Hagee used one of these quotes on your show, but by the fact that six of these quotes were included in the National Council On Bible Curriculum in Public Schools curriculum, a curriculum whose advisory board includes ... um ... David Barton.

 
 
 
During his first post-Restoring-Honor-rally show last Monday, Glenn Beck demonstrated the "contempt" of The Huffington Post by showing his audience some of the photos included in a HuffPost slide show...
During his first post-Restoring-Honor-rally show last Monday, Glenn Beck demonstrated the "contempt" of The Huffington Post by showing his audience some of the photos included in a HuffPost slide show...
 
 
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philosophicgirl
04:34 AM on 09/27/2010
I absolutely LOVE your articles, particularly your "No, No Mr. Beck..." ones! Thank you for once again calling out another one of his lies. My ultimate desire is for him to be removed from the air because of his hate-filled, fear-mongering, rhetoric, but until that time comes I'm so glad you're here to counter-act his rhetoric.

I swear, CNN, MSNBC, ABC. or someone should create a show that comes on two hours after his ends titled, "Beck's Lies". The show would have a panel of people like you, Media Matters, Stop Beck and others and would call out each of Beck's and/or guests lies. It would be awesome!!!

Anyway, thank you again for all the articles you write and information you share!! I look forward to reading many more!!

Peace and Take Care!

PS: I have been watching his show everyday for a year and before anyone wants to argue that what he does isn't lying, it is. The definition of the word LIE is: a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; something intended or serving to convey a false impression.
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Sean777
03:53 PM on 09/21/2010
The frustration of Republicans, Democrats and Independents that expect our economic recovery to be expedited by our representatives, should be focus on GLENN BECK, with his malicious conspiracy theories, Beck has turned a movement about fiscal responsibility into the HOOLIGANISM based politics that the TEA PARTY represents today because it is alienating true Republicans to deal with important problems like Taxes or Immigration so Americans end up with a dysfunctional Government.

“All men hate the wretched; how then, must I be hated, who am miserable beyond all living things! Yet you, my creator, detest and spurn me, the creature, to whom thou art bound by ties only dissoluble by the annihilation of one of us”- The Monster, Ch. 2

"You are my creator, but I am your master—obey!" -The Monster, Ch. 20

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Mrs. Curmudgeon
09:12 PM on 09/13/2010
Happy Birthday - belatedly, I have enjoyed your articles. I am glad you're only 48 and plan on writing for a while longer.
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AwShucks
Obama-Biden 2012 Let's Do it Again
11:11 AM on 09/13/2010
If Glenn Becks limings ever read books, they might know exactly how STRONGLY the founding fathers were against ANY religious interference between church and state.
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rich3324
Likes: Chasing villagers. Dislikes: Fire
02:58 PM on 09/12/2010
Glenn, do you know who else said if you keep repeating a lie long enough and enough times it becomes the truth? It was a nazi.
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reasonshouldrule
07:10 PM on 09/12/2010
Interesting! (Who was it?) F&F
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rich3324
Likes: Chasing villagers. Dislikes: Fire
12:55 PM on 09/13/2010
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
Joseph Goebbels
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margoharris
I used to be Snow White but I drifted.
03:12 PM on 09/11/2010
Thank you Chris Rodda for fighting for our heritage and the truth. I hope you are training people to replace you when you retire. You rock!
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Chris Rodda
04:40 PM on 09/11/2010
Even though I'm feeling a bit old at the moment, since it's my 48th birthday today, I think I still have a few good years left in me before I think about retiring ;-)
05:14 PM on 09/11/2010
Happy Birthday, Chris ! and a huge thank-you for all that you do.
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margoharris
I used to be Snow White but I drifted.
05:15 PM on 09/11/2010
You look younger than 48! I was just thinking ahead, because the rightwingradical agenda to revise history to whatever overblown manufactured phony outrage is grabbing the lesser informed citizens of this country is very serious.. To scare up votes.
When will rigid ideology, religious zealotry and anti-intellectualism play itself out? Can history tell us anything?
01:19 PM on 09/11/2010
Actually, I don't think any of this matters in the end. The people watching his show aren't interested in the truth anyway. They just want their bigotry legitimized by someone, even a side-show barker like him.
08:55 AM on 09/11/2010
Here's another famous quote:

"Glenn Beck is to America what mold is to bread"
John Adams
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sydneymoon
Dismiss what insults your own soul - WW
07:15 PM on 09/11/2010
Funny, funny.........
MaryinNV
Liberal, veteran, rural chicken keeper.
04:27 AM on 09/12/2010
Good to know! I always thought Nathan Hale said that.
06:09 AM on 09/11/2010
Forget John Hagee. Glenn Beck used it himself on his March 8, 2010 show:

>>But let me give you the words of George Washington, "It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible."
03:34 AM on 09/11/2010
What does it take to become a mod at this site, in order to be reasonably sure that your posts stay where they were supposed to be, in the thread where you posted them?
05:24 PM on 09/10/2010
Things we know about George Washington:

1. Had wooden teeth.
2. Slept everywhere.
3. Would have hated Glenn Beck.
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LibRule
So how did that one-term thingy work for you?
04:59 PM on 09/10/2010
I know without a doubt- whenever I get an e-mail from the religious right- it's wrong. Why is it that people who claim to be so religious will flat out lie to support their case? Do they not see the hypocrisy? And darn near every one of them will hit 'forward' on every ridiculous thing that comes through their inbox. They are soooo prime for Faux Gnus.
02:24 PM on 09/10/2010
As we all know , the truth doesn't matter to conservatives . For conservatives the ends justify the means .
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MoeJava
Labor Unions built and supported the middle class
03:09 PM on 09/13/2010
conservatives know there is only a finite amount of truth in the world and they are doing their best to conserve it...... so much so that it never sees the light of day
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never know when you'll need the "truth" and they are obviously saving it for a rainy day
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01:15 PM on 09/10/2010
Correct me if I'm wrong, but was the Executive Office of the US populated with Deists up until John Quincy Adams, who was the first President to bring his love of the Bible to public discussion of government?
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Chris Rodda
03:47 PM on 09/10/2010
The only one who I think was clear enough about his religion to be able to say what he was was John Adams. He was clearly a Unitarian in both what he wrote and the church he belonged to. And during the Adams administration, things did start to get a little too religious, mainly because the Federalist Party was the party of the "religious right" of the time.

Washington and Jefferson were vestrymen in the Anglican church, but lots of wealthy landowners in Virginia were vestrymen, not because of religious devotion, but because the vestry was their local government before separation from England. Even the Episcopalian Bishop in Virginia (who's name I cant recall) wrote that Jefferson was just a vestryman because he wanted to be a man of influence. I don't even speculate about what their real religious views were. Jefferson actually wrote that he was a sect unto himself, so I don't know how anyone today thinks that they can say for sure what he believed when he himself couldn't even define what he believed. Jefferson, of course, vigilantly kept religion out of government, and Washington just made a lot of deistic-type comments.

Madison, whose religious views are a complete mystery, wouldn't even answer correspondence from any religious groups or leaders while he was president.

Monroe was not religious at all, and may actually have been the least religious of all our early presidents, but nobody has paid much attention to him in the church/state debate.
11:43 AM on 09/14/2010
Thanks for the multiple insights and links throughout the comment section, keep up the excellent scholarship!
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Orly Holmes
01:51 AM on 09/10/2010
Well Chris, at least it was a cheap T-shirt and not an entire Oval Office rug.[ removed and remade after false quote attributed to King was found].
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Chris Rodda
01:59 PM on 09/10/2010
It was dumb for the White House not to double check the original sources of the quotes on the rug, but this isn't really the same thing. Dr. King actually did often use the quote attributed to him, so he obviously agreed with what it said. There is no reliable record, on the other hand, of George Washington ever saying anything like the quote on the t-shirt. Plus, the president's reason for the quotes on the rug is simply that he's inspired by them. He's not using them for some agenda like the people using the fake Washington quote, and wasn't trying to mislead anybody my misattributing the quote on the rug to King.
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reasonshouldrule
07:17 PM on 09/12/2010
Thank you for explaining the distinction between these two examples of "false" quotes. Faved. (already a fan)