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Huckabee: All Americans Should Be Forced at Gunpoint to Listen to David Barton

Posted: 03/30/11 06:18 PM ET

While most eyes were on the Conservative Principles Political Action Committee conference in Iowa on Saturday, many of us who follow the religious right were more interested in another conference, also held in Iowa, on Thursday and Friday. This other conference was the Rediscover God in America conference, where all the same potential 2012 Republican presidential hopefuls that appeared at the Saturday's Conservative Principles PAC conference told us what they really think -- that America should be governed by biblical law.

Sure, there was a lot of talk about important issues like the economy at the Conservative Principles PAC conference, but it was at the Rediscover God in America conference that we learned that all of our economic policies should be based on the Bible. And who did we learn this from? None other than Christian nationalist pseudo-historian David Barton, who kicked off the conference with a lengthy presentation of his usual historical hogwash. Then, one by one, as the potential Republican presidential candidates took the podium to let the audience full of pastors know just how Christian they are, each began by gushing about what a great historian and good friend David Barton is.

I'm not going to go into all the lies that were included in Barton's presentation because Barton has been giving essentially the same presentation for years with almost no changes, which is why it was kind of comical for Newt Gingrich to begin his glowing praise of Barton by saying that every time he hears Barton speak he learns something new. (For anyone who isn't already familiar with Barton's lies, there are plenty of videos and other stuff on my website debunking the most popular ones that he typically includes in his presentation).

Michele Bachmann, who has been a big fan of Barton since her days in the Minnesota legislature when she tapped him as a history education "expert" to help pass her bill allowing the Declaration of Independence to be taught in Minnesota's public schools (she had apparently believed the ridiculous Fox News story about the Declaration being banned in California's schools), gave her usual spiel about never missing one of Barton's highly enlightening tours of the Capitol.

But the most outrageous statement by far came from Mike Huckabee, who expressed his admiration for Barton by saying that he "almost wished" that "all Americans would be forced -- forced at gunpoint no less -- to listen to every David Barton message."

Now, I wasn't watching the Rediscover God in America conference live on Thursday when Huckabee said this. I had planned on watching and recording the whole conference when it was webcast again on Saturday, so that's when I saw Huckabee's speech. I was quite surprised a few days later to come across a video clip from this conference on the People for the American Way (PFAW) Right Wing Watch blog with the headline "Huckabee: Americans Should Be Forced, At Gunpoint, To Learn From David Barton." I had watched Huckabee's speech. How on earth could I have missed a statement like that? Well, I didn't. It had been edited out of the webcast that I had watched.

Kyle Mantyla over at PFAW's Right Wing Watch had recorded Huckabee's speech when it was streamed live on Thursday, and posted the 'forced at gunpoint' clip on Friday. By Saturday, when I watched the webcast on the United in Purpose website, that part of Huckabee's speech had been edited out.

The webcast that I saw showed Barton leaving the stage as he ended his presentation, then the screen going black for a moment, and then what appeared to be the beginning of Huckabee's speech. What was edited out was Barton returning to the stage to introduce Huckabee, and the first two minutes and forty-five seconds of Huckabee's speech, during which Huckabee made his 'gunpoint' comment and praised David Lane, the man behind all of the American "Renewal" and "Restoration" projects that have popped up across the country during the past few elections. Editing out Huckabee's praising of Lane was a clever trick to make it appear that when the camera was panning over the audience giving a round of applause to Lane, the applause was for Huckabee as he was taking the stage, making it look like this was the beginning of Huckabee's speech.

Here's the video from the edited Saturday webcast.


And here's the unedited video, showing the end of Barton's introduction of Huckabee and the two minutes and forty-five second beginning of Huckabee's speech that was edited out (the 'gunpoint' comment is at about 1:06).

 
 
 
While most eyes were on the Conservative Principles Political Action Committee conference in Iowa on Saturday, many of us who follow the religious right were more interested in another conference, als...
While most eyes were on the Conservative Principles Political Action Committee conference in Iowa on Saturday, many of us who follow the religious right were more interested in another conference, als...
 
 
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lisakaz2
Da ministero dell'interno di Snark.
11:40 PM on 05/04/2011
In what world is this guy an "expert" on history? I'd like to see where the credentials are, or the refereed publications.
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as promised
Educ yourself re David Barton & his followers
11:58 PM on 04/11/2011
All should check out Jon Stewart's Daily Show interview with Huck on this exact thing.
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JohnBryansFontaine
Liberal Democrat
12:51 AM on 04/10/2011
Huckabee Channels Rushdoony
by Julie Ingersoll

"...For Rushdoony, Barton, and apparently Huckabee, history is not the academic discipline most of us have in mind when we use the term: the effort to assemble evidence from the past to understand events, their context, and change over time. In fact, Jon Stewart nailed it when he argued that Barton "doesn’t seem like a historian, he seems seem almost like a theologian whose thrust is 'I want this country to be Christian and go by the Bible.'"

The "history" that Huckabee is promoting is, indeed, theological. In this framing, history, like every other aspect of culture, becomes a conflict between two diametrically opposing worldviews, based in mutually exclusive presuppositions..."

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/julieingersoll/4480/huckabee_channels_rushdoony/
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Patriot86
Compassion is the basis of all morality.
09:08 AM on 04/07/2011
Should read can't convert others at the point of a sword...oops
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Patriot86
Compassion is the basis of all morality.
09:08 AM on 04/07/2011
You know all these so called great Christians should understand that you can convert others to Christianity at the point of a sword...it is all about the heart. These people are so far from Christ and th simple message he preached that I believe many will head to the hot place...leaders are held to a higher standard so Paster Huckabee...is in huge trouble.
11:41 AM on 04/02/2011
EXCELLENT article, Chris!!! I'm glad you are out there monitoring these people...
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ProChoiceGrandma
Proud Progressive Liberal
08:08 PM on 03/31/2011
It seems that Huckabee is already envisioning "Huck's Youth", similar to another forced youth group from 70+ years ago. And they were certainly forced at gunpoint, no dissention allowed.
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ProChoiceGrandma
Proud Progressive Liberal
07:09 PM on 03/31/2011
Interesting that Huckabee edited out that inflammatory language about “forced at gunpoint”. My oh my, could it be that Rev. Huck is trying to hide his “God & Guns” rhetoric from the general public??

Excellent post, Ms. Rodda! And good catch on the edit.
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Fred Butters
01:16 AM on 04/04/2011
Nah, they edited it out because the segment ran long, and uh... they needed to make it a shorter. Yeah, that's it.
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runswithscissors
Hobson's Choice ≠ Free Will
07:01 PM on 03/31/2011
Don't even try to understand Huckabee. By his count, gun violence and forcibly imposing extreme views on others are more than okay. But giving birth out of wedlock makes you a danger to society.

The real danger here lies in the brainless mob cheering for this guy.
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sjk1
06:40 PM on 03/31/2011
revised. just like his bible.
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as promised
Educ yourself re David Barton & his followers
02:51 PM on 03/31/2011
I don't like that this discussion has gotten hung up on the "at gunpoint" phrase. There is so much important information in this that needs to be heeded and discussed (disgust? ha) like who attended this conference and their blind adherence and admiration for Barton. Very telling stuff.
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Chris Rodda
04:28 PM on 03/31/2011
Don't worry, I'll be writing much more about this conference and the other people who spoke at it. In fact, I'm sitting here right now working on something to do with something Michele Bachmann said in her speech at the conference. I'll also be getting to Newt and his ties to Barton after I'm done with Bachmann. So many fundies, so little time ...
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as promised
Educ yourself re David Barton & his followers
04:52 PM on 03/31/2011
And as a long-time follower, I am finally getting around to ordering your book via Amazon. Have had no luck finding it locally.
Keep up the good work, Chris.
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dblshell
St. George to the crazies
01:37 PM on 03/31/2011
I looked up the 'Black Robe Regiment' David Barton referred to in his introduction of Huckabee and noticed how closely their logo resembled that of the 'White Hood Regiment'.
01:01 PM on 03/31/2011
Huck was clearly joking here (check out the video and note the tone), folks, although I wish he didn't make it.
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ProChoiceGrandma
Proud Progressive Liberal
07:16 PM on 03/31/2011
Oh funny ha ha, he's "clearly joking", you think? Huckabee uses gun rhetoric in many of his speeches or comments. This is not the Christianity I learned as a child, it has morphed into a talibangelical form of political religion.
02:13 PM on 04/07/2011
Oh, of course it was a joke. Repubs only ever use violent rhetoric in a joking manner. It's not like anyone would ever take them seriously and follow what they say right? Right?

Oh, btw I'm totally going to start using the phrase "talibangelical" now. Brilliant. It perfectly describes this brand of "Amurikan" Christianity which is far from the Christianity I grew up with.
07:32 PM on 03/31/2011
He was clearly speaking from his black heart.

This isn't the first time the Huckster has used violent imagery in his speeches.
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Rodger leMonde
I call them as I see them.
12:47 PM on 03/31/2011
Any one who expects to run for president after that statement should be evaluated for mental competency. It may be possible to get further from the spirit of America, but I don't want to hear how.
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as promised
Educ yourself re David Barton & his followers
02:41 PM on 03/31/2011
This is just one example in a litany. Crumbling credibility of each potential candidate, quite a sight to see, actually. We'll allow one "out of context" or one misspeak, but after that - sorry, it becomes an expose of what they really feel or know.
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trubador1
Let's review....
12:20 PM on 03/31/2011
Have these people actually read any reputable sources on American history? "Get back to the way America actually was"? Washington, Lincoln and most of the founding fathers were by no means believers in the Fundamentalist/Evangelical tradition of Huckabee and his ilk. Such a notion represents a fairy-tale version of the nation's past, and one carefully calculated to serve the political interests of a clear minority of contemporary Americans.