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Atheist Students Find Their Place in the Interfaith Movement

Posted: 11/02/10 08:32 PM ET

Atheists are leading the charge for interfaith cooperation. If that sounds contradictory, allow me to confirm: I just saw it with my own eyes.

Last weekend, more than 200 college students and 100 faculty and staff from across the United States converged in Washington, D.C. for five days of interfaith training. Students and campus staff participated in two consecutive Interfaith Leadership Institutes, planned and run by the Interfaith Youth Core (IFYC), where they received intensive training that prepared them to take the lead in a national movement for interfaith cooperation and social action.

The Interfaith Leadership Institutes, co-hosted by the Georgetown University Berkley Center for Religion, Peace, and World Affairs, consisted of a series of trainings, speeches and events intended to equip hundreds of student leaders and campus allies with the vision, knowledge and skills necessary to lead interfaith and community service initiatives on their campuses. The White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships hosted a session for each institute, and then participants spent two days at Georgetown being trained and equipped.

I was honored to join these students and their staff and faculty allies as a speaker and volunteer IFYC Alumni Coach for the institutes. I was amazed by the enthusiasm and compassion modeled by everyone I met, but as a secular humanist and interfaith activist, the number of nonreligious participants present is perhaps what excited me the most.

Lyz Liddell, Director of Campus Organizing at the Secular Student Alliance, was one of the student allies in attendance. Liddell believes the institutes were a watershed moment for nonreligious participation in the interfaith movement.

"This institute changed perspectives for both theists and nontheists," said Liddell. "Hearing repeated language specifically including nonbelievers -- such as 'people of all religions and no religion' -- made it clear that atheists and other secular worldviews are welcome and needed at the interfaith table. Likewise, having nontheists represented helped religious attendees really understand that nontheists want to be involved and are willing and eager to be included."

As an Alumni Coach, I am working with 20 other IFYC alumni to serve as mentors to the institutes' budding student leaders. One of the students I am mentoring is Michael Anderson, a junior at McKendree University. Anderson sees interfaith work as a pragmatic necessity. "We're all just human beings, and we have to come to a conclusion on how to live together," said Anderson.

Vlad Chituc, a junior at Yale University, was also there to learn more about interfaith leadership. Chituc was surprised and impressed by how welcoming the institute was to atheists and other nonreligious individuals. "I found that the entire conversation stemmed around people saying, 'We really want to include nonreligious people; how the hell do we do that?' Now I don't know why I was expecting the discussion to focus more on whether or not we should even be involved in the movement," Chituc said.

Chelsea Link, a junior at Harvard University, said that she believes that her humanist values require her to find common ground with religious people. "When I found humanism, I felt like many humanists and atheists were detached from religious communities, and many were antagonistic toward the religious," Link said. "Meanwhile, at interfaith events, I didn't see much of an invitation for atheists or humanists. The religious and nonreligious don't know how to deal with each other; I'd like to see more reaching out from both sides. We shouldn't be afraid of each other!"

Adam Garner, a senior at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, agreed with her. "I want to make the world a better place through service and I want to fight religious intolerance. The IFYC, and especially our Interfaith in Action group here on campus, allows me to accomplish both goals in one fell swoop."

I have been working for several years now as a secular humanist promoting interfaith and nonreligious understanding, so I was honored to receive an invitation to share my story and my message at a reception following the White House session, hosted by the El-Hibri Charitable Foundation in celebration of the launch of the Interfaith Leadership Institutes. Speaking before a group of policy and philanthropic professionals, I explained that there are many atheists, agnostics, humanists and other nonreligious individuals like Anderson, Chituc, Link, Garner, Liddell and others at the institutes who wish to seek understanding, respect and collaboration with their religious neighbors.

After my speech, I got the opportunity to talk with many of the policy and philanthropic professionals at the reception, and they affirmed my belief that the nonreligious are an essential asset in this movement. President Obama has spoken frequently of the role that the nonreligious play in American pluralism, so I was both pleased and unsurprised to hear that those involved in the current administration's efforts to ensure interfaith cooperation agreed.

The IFYC Interfaith Leadership Institutes proved that the interfaith movement has hit a critical mass. The student-led, national Better Together" campaign is at the forefront of an emerging societal shift toward inter-religious tolerance and cooperation. Including the nonreligious only strengthens these efforts. Atheists, agnostics, secular humanists and the like have a vital stake in ensuring that America's promise of pluralism is realized, and it is exhilarating to see more of us decide that collaboration is more important than division.

"Some of the best interfaith leaders I know are not people of faith, but their understanding of secular humanism inspires them to create bridges of cooperation between people from different backgrounds," said IFYC Founder and President Eboo Patel. "They recognize that religious tolerance is a 'public good,' which benefits everybody, including the nonreligious. They also recognize that perhaps the greatest interfaith divide in our society is between 'believers' and 'nonbelievers,' and that they have a special role to play in bridging that divide. And from what I have experienced myself, I believe that as well."

With more than 300 students and staff equipped to make interfaith cooperation through social action a reality on their campuses and in their communities, they now know that the nonreligious will be there working and engaging in dialogue alongside them for the public good.

When I first started doing interfaith work, I didn't see many other nonreligious people involved. Now we're impossible to miss.

 

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Atheists are leading the charge for interfaith cooperation. If that sounds contradictory, allow me to confirm: I just saw it with my own eyes. Last weekend, more than 200 college students and 100 fac...
Atheists are leading the charge for interfaith cooperation. If that sounds contradictory, allow me to confirm: I just saw it with my own eyes. Last weekend, more than 200 college students and 100 fac...
 
 
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11:03 PM on 11/10/2010
I think that many of HuffPost's atheists could learn a great deal about religious tolerance from these atheist students.
07:19 AM on 11/11/2010
Pot, meet kettle.
03:42 PM on 11/11/2010
Yeah, right! Acknowledging intolerance doesn't equate to hypocrisy... false equivalency.
11:01 AM on 11/09/2010
I have no objection to working cooperatively with believers or faux-believers in various religions, in order to pursue secular values that we share. I do this frequently . . . on some trivial level, every day. But I have no desire whatsoever to see my cooperation labeled as "interfaith" activity so that the promoters and purveyors of superstition can claim some sort of victory for "faith" or ecumenicism. Leave me out of it, and spare me from the machinations of this or that Office of Faith-Based Partnerships. Human courage, empathy, fellow-feeling, and solidarity are great. So are "hope" and "confidence," because both of these are provisional and can be confirmed or strengthened, weakened or dashed by experience. "Faith" (in the sense used by religious believers when they are not beng careless with words) is something else again, and I don't want or need it. I certainly don't want other members of my community to think that I have it or that I am motivated by it.
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shatner99
09:35 PM on 11/07/2010
rational students find their way....
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Arion
05:44 PM on 11/07/2010
This from a rural, conservative parish: My Methodist minister told me with delight "Dick, we has some atheists worshiping with us now"
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Seaniebhoy
12:30 PM on 11/07/2010
I don't believe either group has enough information to tell the other who right or wrong in their belief structure. To make a point I am someone who considers himself religious; however I also accept that my belief system has a flaw in that it comes to the conclusion that we know what God is and is not - and what he can and cannot do....this is also a flaw shared by atheists. When the tsunami hit south east asia a few years ago a friend of mine asked me if there was a god how could he let something like that happen. I responded that he's making the mistake of assuming God had the ability to stop it. Anyway my point is that I don't think either side has enough understanding to come to the conclusion that their school of though is right and that all others are wrong....
01:14 PM on 11/07/2010
From Epicurus..
"If God is willing to prevent evil, but is not able to, Then He is not omnipotent.
If He is able, but not willing, Then He is malevolent.
If He is both able and willing, Then why does evil exit?
If He is neither able nor willing, Then why call Him God?"

This quote has been repeated all over but it's simple common sense can't be denied. Maybe neither side can say 100% for sure but logic is on the side of atheism. Simple examination of what god is supposed to be, under the light of the world we live in every day suggests that god is unlikely.

I think what is more important is that both communities work to exist side by side for some greater good. When it comes to helping your fellow man, the result is more important than the source. I wish this group the best of luck.
06:09 PM on 11/07/2010
The logic here falls apart when you assume evil cannot exist if there is a God Who is willing and able to prevent it.

If you think it is more important to work side by side and such, why do you place your agenda first in your response?
Carroll27
Nature's own nice conservative
03:25 PM on 11/10/2010
Augustine; The question isn't "why is there evil in the world?" The question is, "Why is there good?"
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01:52 PM on 11/07/2010
Well if you read your bible God is pretty good at handling water such as in the great flood and the parting of the Red Sea so I imagine the tsunami should be no problem for the creator of the universe. As far as the faithful and faithless having an equal lack of understanding I would answer that there is zero evidence that God can or has done anything. The only evidence is reliant on the words of man or the 'experience' of individuals.
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Seaniebhoy
02:53 PM on 11/07/2010
Yes but the bible was written by human beings who as I stated earlier cannot understand what God can and cannot do. How can you say with absolute certainty that there is no evidence of God? No more than I can say for absolute certainty that there is a God. Not to sund ridiculous but the absence of evidence does not equal the evidence of absence....maybe there is a God and he simply doesn't or can't interfere, or maybe he doesn't care, or maybe you are right and he doesn't exist....point is nobody can say for absolute certainty.
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Denice Brown
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10:05 PM on 11/06/2010
Doing good is NOT the sole property of Religious types. There are good people who do not have a god.
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
07:25 AM on 11/10/2010
You cannot do good unless you speak God's Word.
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edgraham
There is no magic
02:56 PM on 11/10/2010
Bull.

...and, how do you know if it is truly God's word.
07:19 AM on 11/11/2010
Bull.
01:42 PM on 11/06/2010
Wonderful and wise steps forward. Collaboration on the most pressing issues dissolves the division, or at least makes them irrelevant. Now the language needs to evolve beyond "interfaith" and "un-believer" and "a-theist" toward something more radically inclusive. Only those youth who are leading the way forward can discover and present that. Very positive. Very hopeful.
05:50 AM on 11/05/2010
As an atheist, I don't consider atheism to be a "faith" or the equivalent of a religion. Like Dawkins said, it's like calling bald a hair color. But I see no problem with atheist organizations attending a big meeting of leaders on how to promote tolerance on campus and learn how to organize community service activities. I don't remember an atheist group existing when I went away to college, I wish there had been because there wasn't really any group I fit into that did community service and social events like all the various religious groups they had.
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
06:36 AM on 11/05/2010
Try to think things through. There is no magic capable of ordering any directives not to mention the billions of digits of directives that are in life forms. Dawkins believes in aliens.
12:22 PM on 11/05/2010
I thought things through, and I came to a different conclusion than you do. No big deal - that was the whole point of my post, that the priorities should be a peaceful, tolerant campus and respect for other people's beliefs. Not pushing your opinions on other people.
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03:14 PM on 11/05/2010
Dawkins does not believe in Aliens. There is a religion/cult that sometimes uses a quote from him out of context to say that he does but its a lie.
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Cole 33
Careful. We don't want to learn from this.
09:08 PM on 11/05/2010
everyone is born an atheist
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ZenSufi
Sisters and Brothers of America!
03:34 AM on 11/07/2010
...and an alien.
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
12:44 AM on 11/05/2010
There is no such thing as a real atheist. They all give all the glory to objects in nature for their existence. That is what they all believe and that belief is also known as a pagan belief. Atheism is a misnomer.
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06:15 AM on 11/05/2010
Wow, there are no words. It's not Belief, it's knowledge. Testable knowledge. Knowledge that anybody with senses can examine and see for themselves without some divine revelation.
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
06:30 AM on 11/05/2010
If it was knowledge based, you would have presented the information. Evolution is all speculation, conjecture, imagination and fantasy. You cannot use design as evidence of no design. Life forms work because of the elements that are working machine parts inside of them which mean that they only exist because of all of the design from the elements being designed, made and ordered to work as they do. That is science.
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ChaCubed
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09:05 PM on 11/06/2010
But it's funny that Daleri is so immersed in his/her beliefs that he/she can't even speak in a rational manner: "give all the glory to" ... really???
02:19 PM on 11/06/2010
Doubt, my friend, is the natural state of man.

Uncertainty

They say that someday
....................we'll have a theory of everything
That will explain
....................all things in this universe mysterious:
Well, I can only say
....................good luck with that.
It is not only
....................the face of the One
That we see
....................through a darkened glass,
Our minds are weak
....................and thoroughly muddled,
A box of jumbled
....................and contradictory thoughts,
Surrounded by legions
...................of uncertainty and doubt,
Unable to rend
...................the final veil.
Our vaunted reasoning
...................and logic break down
When confronted with
...................the reality of existance,
With the essential
...................zero point essence
That lies behind
...................all of creation.
Our judgement and
...................our vision are clouded
In all things
...................but this one,
Only in love
...................is there clarity.
05:22 PM on 11/04/2010
Here here

http://www.atheistrev.com/2009/07/can-atheists-participate-in-interfaith.html

look at what a christian want in its interfaith dialog. A rather boring monologue as always with the coins in the side of the theist.
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UGH!....people taste like crap!
05:14 PM on 11/04/2010
Atheist Students Find Their Place in the Interfaith Movement.....

It's a great way to waste ones time...... faith organizations have more to do with having and controlling power...... than getting along with each other.
10:12 AM on 11/05/2010
Having a common goal of tolerance of all faiths and of people with no faith is a worthy cause, a much needed cause in our polarized society where an atheist, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist would have a very difficult time running for pubic office in most regions.
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03:18 PM on 11/05/2010
An an atheist I expect ignorant hate from people like Daleri Rileda. But its sad to see it coming from someone who I assume is also an atheist. Blindly hating all people of faith is as foolish as blindly hating all atheists or anyone. For me atheism is part of a large set of values: belief in reason, science, civility, and a basic respect for all human rights. I do believe Atheism will eventually win out over religion but it will happen via principled discussions. Atheists who start acting like dogmatists actually impede progress.
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Cole 33
Careful. We don't want to learn from this.
04:47 PM on 11/05/2010
Agreed , most of my friends are religious, most non practicing, but are good people, it's the dogmatic, I've been conditioned since birth to believe this or I'm going to hell types that really take the cake.
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syntax facit saltum
We do not live in a 2 story universe
10:11 PM on 11/05/2010
While I would appreciate the opportunity to have a dialogue with you, I can't imagine that it would change my mind about worshiping God. I am not expecting to change your mind either.
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
03:08 PM on 11/04/2010
Some might find this offensive, but it's not intended to be. It's intended to be explanation, not to demean any form of theism. It's just my effort to explain my personal athiest position and to use a common theme that has differing opinions.

Does one believe that intelligent extraterrestrial life has visited Earth? I'm sure there are some theists who believe this and some who don't. For those who don't...how you feel about those who do, is how I feel about theists. If you do believe in extraterrestrial visitors, maybe there's something else you don't believe in that a decent number of people do...Loch Ness monster, Bigfoot, whatever. Perform the same exercise.

I think most people who do this exercise will find that they don't hate the people who believe in extraterrestrial visitors. They don't want them jailed or converted. They just don't care. Your content to let them be. If there are three or four of them together talking about an abduction, you might just choose to wander off to another conversation.

Now, skew the scenario a little. The "believers" now want to try and convert everyone. They accuse you of being immoral and un-American for not believing in extraterrestrial visitors. Now, how do you feel about them?
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Daleri Rileda
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11:57 PM on 11/04/2010
They really should teach in school that the basic elements of the universe are working machine parts inside of us rather than giving all of the credit for the design, manufacturing and assembly of the machine parts in life forms to the machine parts themselves. Then you would not be saying such off the wall things. Believing in extraterrestrials is like believing in the rapture, it has nothing to do with the real issues. It is also not a matter of someone's "immorality", it is a matter of saving people from destruction. If I don't care, it is then my fault.
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
11:50 AM on 11/05/2010
Thank you for providing an example for my last paragraph.
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Cole 33
Careful. We don't want to learn from this.
04:49 PM on 11/05/2010
They don't teach that in school because it's not factual in any way shape or form.
10:15 AM on 11/05/2010
I would feel that they're annoying fanatics and potentially dangerous but when another group of ET believers reaches out to them to try and convince them that they have no right or need to convert others to their beliefs, I would see this as a good thing.
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
12:00 PM on 11/05/2010
A good thing, yes, but I would really have nothing to add to the conversation. If the moderate group is going to reach the fanatics, it must be on an extraterrestrial/theological level. Because if it was going to be possible on a social level, the non-believers would have done it long ago. In my experience, people of faith generally feel that they are being judged by atheists when these conversations occur. As I made clear in my silly metaphor was that we're not judging. We can't judge because we don't care. We don't care about one's beliefs...at least not until someone tries to impose them on us.
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syntax facit saltum
We do not live in a 2 story universe
02:31 PM on 11/04/2010
DannyJ and some others have asked what would the conversation be about or asserted it would be worthless to have a conversation. I will tell you from the Eastern Orthodox Christian point of view why we should have a conversation. Because as humans, we are made to love one another. And if we refuse to love one another, that means we lose our true human personhood. So, there is no true person unless there are at least two persons — better still, three — in dialogue with one another. I need you in order to be myself. And I dare say, you need me in order to be yourself.
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ItsBarranti
06:37 AM on 11/05/2010
I pointed out in another thread that the truly religious, those fundamentalist extremist wackos aren't motivated by hate. Quite the contrary, everything they do is out of love, out of a hope that by their actions, they will save more souls than are damned in the end. They go around telling people that they are sinners and they are damned because they honestly hope that people believe them and convert, because they honestly don't want those people to go to hell.

I dare-say I could do without any of them, because there are plenty of other issues that could stand to be addressed in the world without having to deal with people who are so completely irrational.
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We do not live in a 2 story universe
12:34 PM on 11/05/2010
I don't quite understand what you want to say here. I think there are might be some typos because it seems contradictory here. Specifically are you saying fundamentalists "extremist wackos aren't motivated by hate. ....everything they do is out of love." or do you mean the reverse as the rest of the sentences seem to imply?

I would consider myself quite religious but I am not a fundamentalist. I am Eastern Orthodox. I find the fundamentalists just as wacky as you do. In my tradition we would never go around telling people they are sinners and damned and speak to people only because we want to convert them. That is not our theology. I would speak to people because we are both human beings. But in any case, none of that matters. Because the question is not what you think of those people, but rather, don't you also consider yourself a person motivated by love? One who would enter into dialogue with others because talking with others, even those who see the world in a really different way makes us see ourselves if they honestly want to dialogue? I am really curious about this from the perspective of world view. What I cited, and not the fundamentalist craziness that you want to force onto all Christians, would motivate me to want to talk with you. What would motivate you to want to talk to me? I mean, from the framework of your ethics and world view?
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11:46 AM on 11/05/2010
Do you need a formal label in order to have conversation? Isn't that what we're doing on these forums?
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We do not live in a 2 story universe
12:35 PM on 11/05/2010
Indeed! And I find it really good. I have learned a lot about how other people see the world and life from these discussions and I appreciate them.
10:07 AM on 11/04/2010
Someone is deleting my comments, i guess people like George Carling could be banned from huffingtonpost in the blink of an aye, too controversial view, too pristine expresion.
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ItsBarranti
06:19 AM on 11/05/2010
The auto-filter doesn't like bad words. I had a post deleted because I said the Greek God Zeus was a bit of a J Yerk. Then I responded to this yesterday, but it was deleted because I spelled J, Erk J-E-R-*. It's touchy.
10:16 AM on 11/05/2010
Thanks for pointing that out, I'm sometimes mystified when very reasonable posts are banned.
08:32 PM on 11/03/2010
It is, admittedly, a fine hair to split, but theists and atheists actually have quite a bit in common with regard to metaphysical matters. Both schools of belief share a foundational assertion that it's possible for us to know whether or not God exists.
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10:14 PM on 11/03/2010
Do you have an opinion on the existence of gnomes and fairies? If just one person asserts that such beings exist, then by your argument, the lack of fairy/gnome belief is of the same epistemological value as full belief in the little boogers.

Consider a child raised in an environment devoid of the mention of god(s). Is that child's lack of faith equivalent to faith? Suppose one day a missionary shows up and begins preaching the Good News. The child rightly assumes the missionary is deranged. Does the child's natural atheism suddenly change in some way? Nonsense. Simply being exposed to the notion of god(s) is not enough to lend the concept special credibility. Just as with any other fiction - whether we hear about it from others or make it up ourselves - we are free to discard the god-concept any time we wish. The burden of proof is always on the claimant.

This is just a twist on the old ontological argument : apparently, as soon as the idea of god(s) appears in our minds, it becomes impossible to not believe in god(s).

Sorry, but I'm not buying it.
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12:26 AM on 11/04/2010
are you equating the existence of god with the existence of gnomes and fairies? it's a philosophical fact (and they are rare) that atheists and theists have in common the notion that it is possible to either positively or negatively assert the existence of god.
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On the first day, man created god.
03:50 AM on 11/04/2010
Thank you. Attempts to obfuscate these boundaries by theists seem to be born out of a lack of comprehension. It reminds me of magnets repelling each other. No matter how hard you try they'll never have the "A-ha!" moment.
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We do not live in a 2 story universe
10:37 PM on 11/03/2010
As a theists I am not sure I would agree with this statement. I really don't care about the possibility of knowing whether God exists or not. I would never frame the question that way.
12:30 AM on 11/04/2010
look into agnosticism. that might be where you're coming from.