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Could Voter Suppression Laws Suppress Republican Votes?

Posted: 07/25/2012 8:54 pm

Welcome to that magic time of year when political junkies in the media get so frantic for stories they just start rampantly speculating on everything under the sun. This is a yearly contest to see who can come up with this year's "Silly Season" story that everyone else will obsess about for the entire month of August. What will it be this year? Mitt's "dancing horse" at the Olympics (as David Letterman has taken to calling it)? President Obama secretly plotting to (fill in the blank)?

Of course, while all that is going on, there will be serious stories with dramatic consequences in the political arena which will get short shrift (or no shrift at all) in the national media, as usual. One of the biggest of these non-silly stories this year is the trend towards voter suppression laws in states with inordinate amounts of Republicans in their state government. The comic Doonesbury has been brutally pointing this out all this week with a series of strips on a "Jim Crow tour" of America.

I'm not going to get into the main issue here, I should state. Voter suppression laws are a giant step backwards, and there are plenty of other commentaries out there which explain why. Instead, I'd like to focus on one aspect of the laws which everyone seems to be missing: who will be affected, and how this will affect the overall vote.

The targets of these Republican laws are two large demographics which have been voting overwhelmingly Democratic: minorities and young people. Of the citizens in America who do not have state photo identification, these two groups would be disproportionately affected. People who can't afford to take time off from their two jobs to stand in line at the D.M.V. (or simply cannot afford the fees), and young people who live where there is public transportation or for whatever reason have never gotten a driver's license. And college students, who may only have a student identification card -- which (in some of these states) is not enough to prove who you are at the polling station.

But there's another massive group of people who will also be affected by the new laws: the elderly. People who stopped driving years ago, for example. The thing about this group of folks is: they vote. They vote in numbers far outstripping younger American demographics. And, a lot of the time, they vote Republican.

So are the Republicans who have passed these laws actually hurting their own party's chances? I have two answers to that question, both of them unsatisfying: it's too soon to tell, and we may never actually know. It's too soon to tell, because with any new law on voting procedures, you can't accurately predict the outcome until after it happens. A lot of these laws have been passed since the last presidential election, therefore there simply is no data in these states on how voting patterns will change. It's all guesswork. Even after the election happens, we may never know the full answer of the impact of the voter suppression laws, because public opinion polling just isn't subtle enough to tease out such conclusions.

Think about it: how do the pundits all decide that "Issue X" or "Policy Y" is the reason for the election results of that year? Exit polling. And who do exit polls poll? Voters. Who don't they poll? People who didn't vote. Right there, that's a data problem. In attempting to figure out why a certain group of people didn't vote, if you don't question them about it, you're never going to have any realistic data to pore over.

Voter enthusiasm is down across the board from 2008. It usually is, in a re-election year. So it'll be hard to tell why certain demographics didn't turn out. And nearly impossible to accurately figure out how many of them didn't vote because they didn't have an ID, versus because they weren't excited about the candidates, were disillusioned in general about the political system, had to work, forgot to register, or any one of dozens of other reasons.

Which is a very long way of saying that even using figures is quite possibly meaningless and this entire article is nothing but mid-summer speculation on my part. Having said that, let's look at some numbers, anyway.

Figures from the book How Barack Obama Won by NBC's Chuck Todd and Sheldon Gawiser allow us to at least look at the breakdown of the 2008 Obama vote, state by state. Let's take just two states that may be of critical importance this year: Ohio and Florida. Both have voter ID laws, although Ohio's is less strict than Florida's. Each state has passed slightly different rules for what constitutes acceptable identification, which makes such comparisons even more difficult.

Obama won Ohio by 51.5 percent to 46.9 percent -- a gap of 4.6 percentage points. People under 30 comprised 17 percent of the voting public, and people 65 or older comprised exactly the same amount. But their votes broke down differently. Young people voted for Obama over McCain 61-36 percent, but older people voted for McCain over Obama by only 55-44 percent. If an equal number of each group were disenfranchised by voter suppression, Obama would have lost more votes than McCain. Whether it would have made a difference would depend on how large a group got disenfranchised. The two groups make up 34 percent of Ohio's voters, and the gap was only 4.6 points, so it is an open question.

Florida, being a retirement destination, has different demographics. In 2008, Florida's youth made up 15 percent of the voters, while the elderly made up 22 percent. The voting gap is similar to Ohio's as the youth vote went 61-37 for Obama, while the seniors voted 53-45 for McCain. But because the percentages of the total vote for each group are different, the elderly vote would make more of a difference than in Ohio. Even this might not have helped Democrats, though, because 17 percent of the vote was from minorities -- who went overwhelmingly for Obama (Hispanic vote was 57-42 for Obama, and the black vote was a whopping 96-4 percent). Now, obviously, there is some overlap in the minority numbers, as you can be both minority and young (or old), but you cannot be both young and old at the same time (not counting the "young at heart," of course). Even with the overlap, though, Obama won Florida by only 2.6 percent. This is a very thin margin, and it is on thin margins that voter suppression may have its intended effect -- suppressing the Democratic vote.

But I'm going to end on an optimistic note for Democrats, today (remember, we're just rampantly speculating, here). Because Democrats can see this obstacle coming. They know full well that they're going to have some hoops to jump through in their "get out the vote" efforts in the states with new laws. So one would like to think there's an army of Democratic loyalists across the land who are avidly working to make sure that every Democratic voter they're counting on in November does indeed have the correct identification and is ready for the new rules at the polls. Outreach efforts to the minority community, to the young folks, and to the senior citizens should already be underway, in a big way. What is called "the ground game" in politics needs extra effort this year, to put it another way. The Democratic Party better realize this, and better already be fielding those armies in this ground game.

But what I wonder is whether the Republican Party is even paying attention. They passed these laws to bar Democrats from voting, after all, so they might be lulled into believing that every voter affected will be a Democrat. This is just not the case. There are a whole lot of older American voters who are in for a big surprise when they are turned away from the ballot box this year. Older Americans generally lean more Republican than the public in general. This means there may be more older Republican voters affected than the party apparatus realizes. If this is the case, the question has to be asked: could voter suppression efforts by Republicans actually wind up suppressing the Republican vote more than the Democratic vote?

Hey, I warned you this was sheer speculation. Make of it what you will.

 

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Welcome to that magic time of year when political junkies in the media get so frantic for stories they just start rampantly speculating on everything under the sun. This is a yearly contest to see wh...
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03:19 PM on 08/29/2012
I can't understand how any good can come out of a policy of restricting voting rights while promoting widespread ownership of firearms.
11:48 AM on 08/20/2012
Welcome to Florida; but it's easier to vote in Iraq.
11:48 AM on 08/20/2012
This country's founding principle "no taxation w/o representation;" is it time to incite that attitude again; politicians only understand $$$$$ and Cents.
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Russ Klettke
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08:40 PM on 08/19/2012
I almost feel sorry for Republicans for being so devoid of authenticity that they would resort to this. Is there any soul left in that party?
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relentless63
06:26 PM on 07/30/2012
I have no idea why America spends billions trying to create democracies on foreign soil when it can't manage it at home. There is negligible voter fraud. Existing laws have been satisfactory for every presidential campaign, until this one. If there were any sincerity in their efforts, these laws would be scheduled to come into effect by 2016 to ensure that, neither by letter or spirit, would American citizens suffer voter suppression. The only reason for enforcing these laws now is to steal the election. The title of 'wimp' doesn't just apply to Romney. It wraps itself around the whole joke of a party.
09:16 PM on 07/27/2012
Im not sure how this is suppression..I have to show an ID to buy or apply for anything, you have to show ID's for everything..why is this a problem? Shouldn't everybody be responsible enough to have an ID? What adult isn't responsible enough to get an ID? There are thousands of places available to get an ID made so how long are we going to beat this horse? And if it's a money issue then that person shouldn't be voting anyway because odds are they are riding the government system and I am the one paying for it
01:45 PM on 08/08/2012
"The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax." - 24th Amendment.

Any fee levied by the federal or any state or local government that is not punitive is by definition a tax. If government wishes to require a specific form of ID, then that ID must be offered free and without undue hardship to obtain (making someone travel dozens of miles or to where public transportation can't take them, or by having prohibitively short office hours), otherwise the law is in violation of the US Constitution is therefore illegal.
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Russ Klettke
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08:44 PM on 08/19/2012
For millions of people this is a hardship. Your world is different from the elderly black American, for urban Americans who simply do not drive (75% of Chicago's downtown workforce, for example, arrives by public transportation, to provide you some perspective), for anyone who has recently moved and not completed the paperwork with all parties and for people for whom two or more residences create irregularities.

I suggest you read further on the topic. This information is widely presented.
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asiclilpup
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12:30 PM on 07/27/2012
In answer to your lead question, I say highly probable since the repubies have never had down the road or long range views / plans. What they do know is that there are more registered Dems than repubies so their immediate solution is cut the Dems off at the knees while not figuring in collateral damages.
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rhdsma
08:12 PM on 07/26/2012
No, it seems you can buy arms and munitions on the Internet without ID as the recent killer was able to do.
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rhdsma
08:10 PM on 07/26/2012
And just consider the high quality of the KY elected representatives that derive from this strict show of ID to vote.
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02:14 PM on 07/26/2012
If ID's are deemed a necessity despite knowledge that voter fraud is a manufactured problem then it is incumbent upon the state to make them conveniently available and FREE.
01:45 PM on 07/26/2012
Whenever any group attempts to surpress another group, there are always people who get caught in the revolving door. When Republicans demand and gain the right to shut down Planned Parenthood, they pretend it is to stop abortions. However, what they think they are doing is spiteing and stopping "Liberals and Democrats" from gaining abortions. Unfortunately, Republican women get abortions also, and they will be caught in that revolving door. Sorry about that, but it is the truth.

When voter surpress is attempted, there will be many a Republican who will find that they are not eligible to vote because they either cannot, do no have, will not get the required ID that allows them to access the polls. There is that pesky revolving door again. Sorry about that, but it is the truth.

IMO, Democrats must simply work hard to find those who will be affected by some of the draconian rules and laws and aid them in whatever way possible to thwart these people who are doing what, IMO, is as un-American as being a traitor to their country would be.
04:09 PM on 07/26/2012
Defunding PP is stopping yet another Democrat laundering of taxpayer money to "community organizations" in return for votes just as ACORN did with CRA.

When PP is defunded it will not stop abortions, it will simply give "enlightened" liberals the opportunity to put their money where their mouth is and fund PP through PRIVATE DONATIONS!!
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cajundave
12:28 PM on 07/26/2012
I actually thought the same thing when this ID BS started. Old people are limited in their mobility and also many are barely getting by. They tend to vote Republican for a number of reasons. I hope the JD can stop all of these phony laws, but if they can't, I hope the old people who don't vote evens out with the Democrats that don't vote.
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mrhandyman3105
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12:27 PM on 07/26/2012
This is what I have been saying since the the idea came up. Most of the republican base are rural elderly people. And always vote. But they mostly live is small towns and know their neighbors, and usually depend on their children to do most of the driving and handling their affairs and rarely have the need to produce a valid current I.D. They are mostly Republican and are most likely to have 'expired" I.D.'s than urban residents. Most city residents always need current state issued I.D.'d because they are always dealing with some state agency in one form or another, and are most likely to already have the proper valid I.D but just haven't registered to vote. The republican voting I.D. effort may actually backfire on them.
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Rob Gadianton
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11:53 AM on 07/26/2012
Mitt's religion will keep the Baby Boomer haters at home on election day. It's gonna be the "Bradley Effect" squared. They will swear they're gonna vote to get rid of the black guy and replace him with a Mormon but they won't. GOP turn-out is gonna drop dramatically in November. The Book of Mormon Convention will turn them off and the GOP is too entrenched with Christian hate groups to reverse the 40 years of hatred and fear they've cultured. Combined with people like me who will not vote to reelect a panderer and war criminal like Obama and the GOP fear mongers I predict a 20% or more drop in over all voter turn-out in November with an Obama victory.
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John Galt2
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11:27 AM on 07/26/2012
How is asking for proper ID at the polls suppression? Is a valid ID that expensive and difficult to obtain?

I can only relay what occurs in OH. Driver's licenses and state ID's (for non-drivers) are cheap, widely available and easy to obtain. I have to show a valid ID to vote in my local precinct.

So, where's the suppression?
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cajundave
12:47 PM on 07/26/2012
The issue is that these laws impact large groups of people who voted for Obama. College students may not make the effort to go to an office and have a new ID made. They have student ID's, which is suddenly not valid to vote. The of the minorities tend to stay in their own neighborhoods and are unable to venture out to get one these IDs. The other issue is that many of the sites that give out the IDs require birth certificates, which requires money that these people don't have. College students would have to get it from the city where they came from. Also, some states make these ID sites set up in areas that make them hard to get to. It's the same concept as putting voting poll locations many miles from certain voters, hoping they can't or won't vote. Many states are limiting the days & time registration is available. If thery aren't open on weekends and only daytime hours, then an hourly wage earner can't afford to leave their job for an hour or two. That's why it's suppresion.
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John Galt2
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11:41 AM on 07/27/2012
So, because a college student is too lazy to get the proper ID, he shouldn't be required to follow the law? Most of them seem to be sufficiently ambitious to get the proper IDs to drive and patronize bars.

So minorities tend to hang out in their own areas, but again,they seem to be driving and drinking; they must have some form of ID to do those things.

Hourly wage earners never have lunch hours or days off? How do they get marriage licenses? Most county courthouses have very restricted hours, yet we don't hear cries of "marriage suppression" regarding the need for a marriage license...
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John Kelley 1
05:44 PM on 07/26/2012
First, every state already requires every voter to provide identification at the polls to vote. What these "Voter ID" laws do is limit the current options for identification to only a few government-issued and difficult-to-obtain methods. In other words, they make it harder to identify yourself.
Second, these few government issued methods of identification require state certified birth certificates but leave the expense for obtaining those certificates on the voter. In some cases, the expense can be in the hundreds of dollars, because not all Americans were born in hospitals or other locations where certificates were issued at time of birth. So a legal process has to be undertaken to retroactively certify their birth, hence the large expense.
Third, unlike driving or other ID-required activities, voting is a right that the 24th Amendment to the Constitution specifically states cannot be abridged or have obstacles placed before it. Requiring a voter to shell out money no matter how small to obtain previously unrequired documentation to obtain an ID would meet the legal definition of an obstacle and a poll tax, which is illegal. The point here is that every citizen no matter how remote or poor has the right to vote, and no government body has the right to prevent them from doing that no matter how minor some may consider the inconvenience.
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John Galt2
My life is my own...
11:37 AM on 07/27/2012
" a few government-issued and difficult-to-obtain methods"

In which states is it "difficult" to obtain a driver's license or state issue ID? How exactly are you defining "difficult"?

If the right to vote cannot be abridged, then evidently every state requiring every voter to show proper identification violates the 24th amendment.

Why hasn't the SCOTUS stricken down these violations of the constitution?