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Friday Talking Points -- Talking Back

Posted: 08/31/2012 8:51 pm

We have reached the eye of the hurricane. Half the storm is over. The Republican Party held its national nominating convention all week, and the Democrats are getting ready to hold theirs next week. So we enter these few days of calm between the howling winds, and to mark the occasion we're going with a unique format here today.

Rather than our usual weekly wrap-up, awards categories, and suggestions for effective talking points for Democrats to use next week, we're instead going to do something we don't believe we've ever done before -- concentrate almost exclusively on the other side's talking points. The Democratic speeches for Charlotte are being fine-tuned right now, and so we felt it was important to lay out the Republican talking points that need to be shot down next week.

A wrap-up of the political week seems sort of redundant at this point, seeing as how I've written daily wraps of the Republican speeches all week (if you missed them, please check out Day One, Day Two, and Day Three). Monday, I attempted to offend the entire universe of political partisanship and wonkery -- across the spectrum -- by prominently using the dictionary definition of "bigot," so if you missed that and need a breather between conventions, check that out too.

Self-promotion aside, though, what we are hoping for during next week's convention is for Democrats to take back a few narratives which seem to be slipping away from them. Oh, one last ego note: I will be attending the Democratic National Convention, so check back for lots of posts and surprises next week.

Where was I? Oh, right -- slip-sliding away. Obama's team has done a stellar job all summer of keeping Romney back on his heels and playing defense. However, while the Obama team's offense is notably a whole lot better than Democrats usually manage, they seem to be neglecting their defense in the war of words. Now, campaign strategists would always much rather be playing offense, as when the candidate goes into a defensive crouch they lose track of driving the message. But you can't ignore these things for too long, as the picture the other side paints in the public eye can sometimes stick -- even if it is completely and utterly false.

Which certainly describes quite a number of the attacks the Romney team are now launching. Pretty much ever since Paul Ryan got named as Mitt Romney's running mate, the Obama team has not done all that great of a job of knocking down some of the strange things coming out of Ryan's mouth. Democrats have seemingly decide, "Well, everyone knows that's ridiculous nonsense, so we don't even have to explain why to the public." They have -- quite wrongly -- either trusted the mainstream media to get the true facts out (good luck with that, these days), or attempted to go into "professor mode" and explain in 2,000 or 3,000 words the technicalities involved in the wrongness of the GOP's stance.

Neither is good enough. The mainstream media, right now, seems to be astonished that Republicans have chosen the "we're going to ignore all the fact-checkers" route. This is mostly due to the media's overwhelming overestimation of their own importance. Which leaves Democrats to get the message out. But the Democrats -- so far -- have been unable to come up with quick and easy answers to the talking points emanating from the other side. Folks, you can't just sit back and smugly point to the fact-checkers -- you've got to get out there and make your own case.

This shouldn't be all that tough, guys. The facts are squarely on the Democrats' side. But we need bumpersticker answers. Slogans. Talking points, not to put too fine a point on it. Not an in-depth discussion of why the other side's position is horsefeathers, but a snappy putdown to showcase the wrongness of the Republican position.

 

Friday Talking Points

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The Democratic National Convention will be the big event to roll out such crowd-pleasing sloganeering. You can include a few details in a speech, as long as it contains a memorable "takeaway" line which sums the whole argument up. And -- importantly -- can be referred to later in an ad or a political discussion with just one pithy phrase.

With every Democratic speechwriter working overtime this weekend, we thought we'd identify the talking points emerging from the Republican conclave, and offer up some suggestions. Our starting point is the other side's talking points, this week.

I got kind of carried away on the first one, which was one reason for the abbreviated column format this week. But here are some of the things Democrats (and Obama, especially) need to counter from the stage this coming week.

 

1
   $716 billion

Democrats, from Obama on down, seem astonished that Republicans are attacking them on Medicare. Democrats seem lulled into the complacency of "Well, we always win on Medicare, so we don't even have to fight -- we'll just win by default." This is wrongheaded thinking. If there was ever a wake-up call to Democrats, it was when Paul Ryan threw down a gauntlet during his convention speech: "We will win this debate!"

Here is the Republican talking point, as it currently stands:

"Seniors should be aware that President Obama is raiding the piggybank of Medicare to the tune of $716 billion dollars, to pay for Obamacare for people who aren't you. Republicans will save Medicare and restore these cuts to seniors."

There are so many things wrong with this position, you would think it would be quite easy to shoot down. Perhaps it is because there are so many things wrong with it that it has so far befuddled Democrats trying to easily refute it. The old "it's hard to know where to begin..." problem, I guess.

To construct a decent talking point to counter this argument will require some data digging. Somebody needs to do the math on Paul Ryan's budget, to put this another way. Look into the figures 10 and 20 years down the road.

"Ryan and Romney are using 'Mediscare' tactics to make seniors think Obama is cutting Medicare benefits. This is false. If it were true, then why did Paul Ryan include the same cuts in the budget which he wrote, and why did every Republican in the House vote for these cuts? The House Republican budget cuts exactly the same $716 billion. Both parties have voted for these cuts, so I can't imagine what Ryan's problem is now. I mean, he wrote this budget, and now he seems to be saying he was so overwhelmed with Obama's leadership on the issue that he stuck the cuts into his budget -- or something."

That's one way of fighting back. Here's another:

"You know where those cuts come from? They come from a Republican program -- Medicare Advantage -- which was sold as a way to save money for Medicare by using the private insurance industry. You know what? It didn't work. It costs more money for the private sector to do it, it turns out. This is nothing more than a subsidy to the health insurance industry, which does not pay for one single benefit for seniors -- not one doctor's office visit, not one test, not one prescription. That's why we're phasing the program out -- because it costs taxpayers too much to waste money on the private sector for the exact same benefits Medicare can provide cheaper.

Here's a third way of attacking the Ryan nonsense:

"Ryan and Romney say they're going to restore that $716 billion to Medicare. But, by doing so, they shorten the life of the program by eight years -- so it won't survive past 2016 without changes. But all the changes they've been proposing won't start for a full decade. So they are promising to speed faster towards Medicare's bankruptcy without a clue what they'll do before their ten-year plan kicks in."

And even a fourth way, the one you'll need the budget math for:

"Ryan and Romney are trying to sell some snake oil to America's seniors. They say they're going to 'restore' Medicare money, but when you look at the Paul Ryan plan for Medicare, when it starts it will cut ($X trillion) in the following decade from Medicare. They're weeping crocodile tears over $716 billion that won't change a single seniors' benefits, and yet they are planning on raiding trillions which will destroy the guarantee of Medicare by tossing out the guarantee of service Medicare now provides."

There are actually many ways to fight back on this issue, but Democrats have so far seemed to content themselves with getting off into the weeds, rather than going for the jugular. This really needs to change, and I'm really hoping to see some fire-breathing and quotable lines from the convention next week.

 

2
   Wavers for welfare

This seems to be emerging as the second-biggest attack which the Democrats seem too astonished to forcefully rebut. Guys, you simply cannot sit back and trust that the public will read all the fact-checkers and decide on their own that this is a lie.

The best way to return fire on this one would be to get one of the governors who requested one of these waivers to cut an ad or speak at the convention. Ideally, get one of the two Republican governors, although that's probably too much to ask.

"I'm the governor of the great state of (X), and I'm here to tell you that when Republicans say President Obama is somehow weakening the work requirements for welfare, they are flat-out lying to you. Every fact-checker in the universe has declared this a whopping big falsehood, but in case you haven't heard, what the governors are requesting is that the federal government allow the states to achieve the same goals for work -- and indeed, even better results -- by experimenting at the state level with what works best for our state. Two of the governors who have requested such waivers are Republicans -- why don't you ask them if they're weakening work requirements! The Republican Party used to be for allowing states to have more flexibility in federal government programs, but bizarrely in this instance they are attacking what they used to support. Make no mistake -- if anyone tells you Barack Obama is weakening welfare work requirements, they are lying to you!"

 

3
   Private sector job experience needed? Really?

This one is particularly annoying, because it is so pathetically easy to shoot down.

"I noticed during the Republican convention they made a lot of noise about how Barack Obama had no private-sector job experience. The Republican crowd cheered each time this point was made. Well, what I'd like to ask Mitt Romney is: if private sector job experience is so powerfully necessary to be president, then why did you name Paul Ryan as your running mate? Paul Ryan has been working in Washington politics since roughly the same time he started shaving. He's cashed a government check of some sort or another since he was 16 years old, in fact. So, Mitt, I guess private-sector experience isn't a big qualification after all, huh? Or perhaps having 'I drove the Oscar Meyer weinermobile' on your resume is good enough to be in line for the Oval Office...."

 

4
   What a load of B/S

Personally, I prefer the term "Bowles/Simpson" rather than "Simpson/Bowles" because it makes such a better acronym.

"I noticed Paul Ryan tried to take President Obama to task for not supporting the Bowles/Simpson commission. This has become a favorite refrain of the Republicans, but it is utter nonsense. The report they're talking about would raise taxes by one trillion dollars. The Senate Republicans bravely voted for this report, but the Bowles/Simpson commission never actually approved it -- because Paul Ryan and the other House Republicans on the commission refused to vote for it. Since that time, I have not heard a single Republican say that they would vote for raising taxes to the tune of one trillion dollars. President Obama could have cut a deal along similar lines to the Bowles/Simpson suggestions, but once again Paul Ryan and the House Republicans walked away from the table. These are the facts about the report. What Paul Ryan is trying to sell should be called the 'B/S report' because that's exactly what it is."

 

5
   Divisive? Oh, please.

This has got to be the biggest belly laugh of all time in American politics. But, once again, you've got to point it out.

"I was seriously amused at watching the Republicans try to label Obama and the Democrats as being somehow more 'divisive' than Republicans. I mean, did you count the number of times Republicans framed the issues as 'us' versus 'them'? Have these people never watched Fox News? Republicans try to pit groups of Americans against each other on a daily basis. This is politics, people, between two parties with divided views about where to take the country in the future. There is nothing new about it. There is nothing different about it -- it happens all the time. To me all this talk of how 'divisive' Democrats are is nothing more than whining and sour grapes by Republicans who seem to be astonished that Democrats have learned to fight back. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

 

6
   Refugees? Really, Mitt?

Okay, this one is just never going to be used. Democrats aren't going to "go there" -- which is probably a good idea, politically. But I just had to get it off my chest, so I hope you'll excuse me.

"I heard a lot of talk during the Republican convention about Latinos. The only word that seemed conspicuously absent was 'immigration.' Although I did notice that Mitt Romney talked about his own family's immigration to America. Their second immigration, I should say. The Mitt video referred to his relatives as 'refugees from revolution,' but didn't explain what it was all about. The Romney clan, in fact, moved out of America, because they refused to follow the laws of the United States. They moved down to Mexico so they could practice polygamy -- this is historical fact. They came back to America from Mexico when they decided that the United States was a better place to live after all. I guess you could use the word 'refugee' but the reason the Romney clan was down there in the first place was a refusal to live within the laws of this country -- a family decision made generations ago."

 

7
   Say what?

This had to be the heaviest irony of the entire Republican convention (Clint Eastwood was definitely more "memorable" although not in a good way...).

"I noticed during the Republican convention one of Mitt Romney's sons pandering to Latino voters by speaking from the podium in Spanish. Why do I say 'pandering'? Because this is a political party that had just voted for federal 'English-only' laws in their platform document. I'm not sure how this would work, you'll have to ask them. Maybe there'll be a federal law that bans Spanish from being spoken by politicians, who knows? I just found the whole spectacle ironic in the extreme. Tune in to the Democratic National Convention next week -- not only do we welcome Spanish being spoken on our stage, we also would never think of passing discriminatory laws which would somehow outlaw Spanish in America. The choice is pretty easy for Latinos, pandering or full support -- and the polls reflect that reality."

 

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We have reached the eye of the hurricane. Half the storm is over. The Republican Party held its national nominating convention all week, and the Democrats are getting ready to hold theirs next week.
We have reached the eye of the hurricane. Half the storm is over. The Republican Party held its national nominating convention all week, and the Democrats are getting ready to hold theirs next week.
 
 
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Tom Rowland
In Dog we trust
07:12 PM on 09/02/2012
stickers? here ya go:

"Romney/Ryan: Killing Medicare for your children and grandchildren"
"Welfare should NOT be a one-size fits all program"
Republicans--for states' rights before they were against them
There's a little con inside every conservative--or--you can't spell "conservative" without a "con"

finally, change the GOP red white and blue elephant to a star-spangled unicorn with wings
07:45 AM on 09/02/2012
Bumper sticker ideas:
"Romney, the Best President Money Can Buy!"
"Give to your local billionaire."
"Good Morning, Mr. Romney. Who are you today?"
"GOP: Gimme, gimme, gimme!"
Vote for Romney: $$ Flu$h the Middle Cla$$"
Romney: Poor? Sick? You must be punished!
Conservatives unite! Conserve the rich!
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ILoveFiction
That's unbelievable!
09:02 AM on 09/02/2012
Somali Pirates for Romney!
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Hannah Garrett
Retro-Activist
02:52 AM on 09/02/2012
"Deny any healthcare to the poor and middle class.
Apply more wealthcare for the already rich."
Mildmannered
"Be excellent to each other"
12:11 AM on 09/02/2012
R/R made clear at the RNC that they envision an America where the only safety net for the weak, the poor and the disabled is provided by private charities and where the primary motive for Americans is to accumulate wealth with no regard for our climate, for the health and education of our children or for the rest of the world. This is definitely not the America which I would like for us to become.

Obama/Biden 2012
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TxAnna
11:45 PM on 09/01/2012
Chris, don't forget the benefits that people using Medicare get right now as a result of Obamacare. The doughnut hole closing and the preventive health screenings at no cost are huge savings to actual people! And, the preventive health screenings (colonoscopies, full physicals, etc) will benefit the program in the future by reducing or eliminating expensive negative health conditions in the future! These are some of the ways that the $716 Bn is being re-invested in Medicare to save not only the program but the people in the program.
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abbienormal
What hump?
10:08 AM on 09/02/2012
That needs to be driven home time and time again. It REALLY matters to seniors and they need to be reminded of that.
08:37 PM on 09/01/2012
Cont. pokey HP

Charity is for the top .1%
Vote Republican

Think there's more room on the national credit card?
Vote Republican

Like wars?
Vote Republican

Like debt?
Vote Republican

Is your car big enough for the family to live in.
Vote Republican

And room for granny?
Vote Republican

Do you believe in faries?
Vote Republican

Not had enough of Bush policies?
Vote Republican

Don't have any bootstraps made in China?
Vote Republican

Donate to the top .1%
Vote Republican
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lhmossy
12:22 AM on 09/02/2012
I.Q above 80 ? Disregard anything "no body" posts.
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
05:42 PM on 09/01/2012
This is my favorite retort to all things republican -
It isn't 1950 anymore.
Universal retort. It works every time.
jdwright62
My micro-bio is empty.
05:28 PM on 09/01/2012
As to Bowles/Simpson, I agree but how do you get the mainstream pundits, even some a HP, to quit repeating as truth the lie that there ever was a final Commission report and keep promote the idea that the Chair's "mark" is the same thing.

It's the same with Social Security. How do you ever get the media to stop reporting that SS is going broke when in fact a couple of very minor changes would keep it solvent and paying full benefits until 2078, And even as it is, it stays fully solvent until 2034 or so and can pay 75% or more thereafter?

And if the media fails to report the truth, when will people ever understand that the Trust Fund was not "raided" and it isn't "broke," when all of the General Treasury borrowing is backed by the full faith and credit of the United States through the same kind of T-bills that back all of the borrowing from foreign countries like China and the private sector. Is it because people "expect" or "want" the government to default on those loans and plunge the country into economic chaos? I don't get it.

Sometimes there aren't any simple answers especially when the media are willing to, not just report the lies, but to actively embrace them and and report them as being "true."
jdwright62
My micro-bio is empty.
05:14 PM on 09/01/2012
"Wavers for Welfare"???????? Come now. Tell me it was your editor at HP. It's "waivers" unless you meant "Wafers for Welfare," which might actually have some pontential for the GOP. "It's not 'vouchers' for Medicare; it's 'wafers' for Medicare, or welfare, or you name it.

Anyone, on this one, you seem to have partially embraced my "That's a lie" response.
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Chris Weigant
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02:51 AM on 09/11/2012
jdwright62 -

I know you probably won't see this (incredibly late response, sorry), but it was all me -- and an errant spell checker. But hey, I did use "waivers" in the text of the TP!

Anyway, mea culpa, and good eye!

-CW
jdwright62
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05:10 PM on 09/01/2012
CW:

You have good responses to the Medicare issue that make a lot of sense. The problem I see however is that the GOP has a nice pithy three word challenge:

"Obama gutted Medicare."

People generally favor simplicity over complexity even when complexity is more correct. Your explanations require significantly more words, which people interpret as, "Boy, they sure seem like they have lots of explaining to do. Ryan must be right."

Therefore, I suggest a three word rejoinder for almost all of the GOP's talking points:

"That's a lie" or maybe, less aggressively, "Don't you believe it." I know that's four words but getting the "you" in is trying to engage the audience directly.

From there, maybe people would be interested in actually knowing why. Or we could just keep yelling at each until the election and beyond:

"Obama is Satan"

"That's a lie."

"Obama is Satan."

"That's a lie."

[etc., etc., ad nauseum]
jdwright62
My micro-bio is empty.
04:56 PM on 09/01/2012
CW:

To the Democratic Party, you say, "you've got to get out there and make your own case."

In today's climate, shouldn't it be, "you've got to get out there and make UP your own case"?
04:14 PM on 09/01/2012
I like all of these! At some point, and I am not exactly sure how, people need to be reminded that Republican obstructionism over the past four years (and especially the last two since they have controlled the House) is THE MAIN REASON that our credit rating fell and that our recovery is painfully slow. If you are not better off today than you were four years ago, the primary blame lies with the extremist do nothing party of "no" that created this mess in the first place and has spent the past four years refusing to govern responsibly. At a time of great national crisis, their "patriotism" could not stir them to do anything but work 24-7 to destroy Obama. Their every waking moment has been spent sabotaging an economic recovery. It's scoundrels like that who take refuge in phony "patriotism" that are the greatest impediments to a better future and the authors of every failure we rightly condemn.
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lhmossy
12:32 AM on 09/02/2012
Can't blame the Congress for not wanting to pass "unsustainable, unworkable" policies. If someone kept passing you papers to sign that infringed on your personal liberty - that increased your personal debt to unsustainable figures would you sign on the dotted line? He/ll no. And I would DARE anyone to call "not signing" obstructionism.
No one needs to work 24/7 to destroy Obama - it has done it thoroughly and nicely all by himself.
The continued lousy economy and 8% jobless rate are ALL we need to know about this POTUS. He had his chance - and sunk his ship.
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gleitz05
Old people are allowed to be cranky.
10:54 AM on 09/02/2012
You're on the wrong web site, lhmossy. You need to be with the others like you who have been duped with the outright lies told by your party heroes. Believe them if you wish, but we here know what truth actually is.
03:36 PM on 09/01/2012
Chris,
Once again, you've said what needs to be said. Like one commenter here said, I think it was rbenjamin, I to hope the higher ups in the democratic party are listening. I'm still having such a hard time believing that the polls are so close. Surely the majority of Americans don't agree with the republican's line of thinking. But I agree that we can't assume that people agree with us, we have to put our beliefs and the truth out there in a convincing way. It's widely known that lies spread faster than the truth, so we have to make sure that the truth not only catches up to the lies, but passes them before November.
11:58 AM on 09/01/2012
#2--Blow up to wall size (& show it on all the Jumbotron thingies) the letter Romney wrote, including his signature, requesting the welfare adjustments he is now degrading.
11:32 AM on 09/01/2012
Seven nails right on to Romney's coffin.