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Spinning Hochul's Special Election Win

Posted: 05/25/11 08:44 PM ET

Sometimes special elections are harbingers of things to come. And sometimes they are not. The tricky part is that nobody can tell the difference until long afterwards. Which certainly doesn't stop rampant speculation in the meantime. Last night, a Democrat pulled off a surprising upset in New York's 26th congressional district, in an election that was forced due to the resignation of a House member who got caught trolling the internet (with shirtless pictures, no less) for extramarital fun and games. What this signifies for the 2012 election is anyone's guess, at this point.

Democrat Kathy Hochul defeated Republican Jane Corwin and Tea Party candidate Jack Davis in a very red district in upstate New York. The big issue in the race was the Paul Ryan budget plan, which would change Medicare as we know it into a voucher system. Hochul decided to make this the centerpiece of her race, and the Republicans responded by pouring money into the district in support of their candidate (who supported the Ryan plan). Despite being heavily outspent in a very Republican district, Hochul won.

The spin emanating from both sides in the wake of the special election has been fierce. Democrats have proclaimed that Medicare will be the number one issue for next year's race, and are reportedly eyeing up to 100 Republican House seats they think may be vulnerable. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid held a vote today on the Paul Ryan budget, and Republicans were only able to muster 40 votes for it -- each and every one of which will immediately be turned into a campaign commercial by the Democrats (although, being the Senate, not all 40 are up for election next year). Nancy Pelosi has a snappy new slogan she's testing out, in response to Republican complaints that Democrats "have no plan." Pelosi's response? "We have a plan -- it's called Medicare." Not bad, as slogans go.

Republicans are spinning in another direction. According to them, the Tea Party candidate in the race split the Republican vote, and so therefore this one special election isn't going to mean much next year. They could be right, at least to some degree or another. Democrats did win a number of special elections in the run-up to the 2010 midterm election, and it did them little to no good at all in November. Paul Ryan deserves some sort of chutzpah award for his response to the negative voter reaction to his plan -- Ryan is now complaining that Democrats are using "scare tactics" against his Medicare ideas. The irony of Republicans complaining about scare tactics on Medicare is apparently lost on Ryan (two words for you, Paul, since you seem to have forgotten: "death panels").

Underneath all the spin, it's hard to deny that Democrats are feeling good about yesterday's election victory up in Buffalo. There's a certain wind-in-our-sails feeling about the whole strategy of hammering Republicans on the Ryan plan to voucherize Medicare. And it's hard not to see it as payback royally deserved for the Republican attacks on Obama's healthcare reform. With all the exaggerations and outright lies (most notably the "killing Granny" sort) thrown at Democrats only a few years ago, Republicans are going to be seen as nothing short of whiny by voters if they try to take the "let's not demagogue Medicare" high road now, by complaining about Democratic "scare tactics." Voters may have a short attention span these days, but it's not that short -- everyone still remembers who was using scare tactics the last time this came up. And Democrats don't have to lie about Ryan's plan to make their point, because it is the absolute truth that Ryan's plan would "end Medicare as we know it" as well as immediately affect seniors as soon as it passed (since Ryan would repeal what he calls "Obamacare," which would immediately end the program which is now paying seniors to fill in the "donut hole" in their prescription drug coverage).

It wouldn't surprise me right now if -- behind the scenes and very quietly -- Republican Party leaders are conceding that possibly Newt Gingrich was right. When Newt called Ryan's plan for Medicare "radical" and "right-wing social engineering" the ideologues in the party landed on him like a ton of bricks. But maybe Newt was onto something that mainstream Republicans are now giving a second look. Unfortunately for them, it's now too late to do much about it. The reaction to Newt's words moved the issue back to center stage, and set a standard for Republican candidates: Agree with Ryan, or else. A single special election for a House seat may not change that dynamic much, if at all. If the Republican Party continues to insist on purity on this issue, they stand to lose a lot of independent voters in the middle -- but that won't become obvious until the general election happens.

Democratic leaders are already doing their best to keep the issue under the spotlights. The leader of the Democratic campaign committee in the House, Steve Israel, was downright taunting in his reaction to the Hochul win: "Today, the Republican plan to end Medicare cost Republicans $3.4 million and a seat in Congress... and this is only the first seat." Harry Reid sounded a similar note: "The Republican plan to kill Medicare is a plan to make the rich richer and the sick sicker. Last night the people of America resoundingly spoke in rejecting the Republican plan to end Medicare as we know it. The Number One, Two and Three issue in that congressional district -- as it is all over the country -- is destroying Medicare as we know it, putting insurance companies between patients and their physician."

My humble guess is that neither party has the spin entirely correct on the importance of Medicare and the New York special election, but that the Democrats are probably closer to the truth than the Republicans. Medicare may not be the biggest issue in the 2012 elections (as Democrats are now pronouncing it), but neither will it be a non-issue (as Republicans would dearly like it to become). There will be other issues which loom just as large (if not larger) by next November. The economy, for instance. On the Medicare issue, however, the polls show that the public is much more accepting of keeping Medicare as it is now than radically changing it to a voucher system. Paul Ryan seems to be walking down a road usually travelled by Democrats -- thinking that if you just explain your plan thoroughly enough, everyone will automatically love it. So far, the Republican Party is following Ryan down this primrose path.

The Ryan budget is a classic example of overreach. One party wins big in an election, and automatically assumes that the public is one hundred percent behind everything they want to do. When they actually lay their cards for radical change on the table, however, the public recoils. It used to be that this pendulum of public opinion took a long time to swing back and forth between the parties. But in our 24/7 media world today, that pendulum has sped up. Democrats had "big win" elections in 2006 and 2008. Republicans had a big win in 2010. Less than half a year into their term, though, the pendulum has already begun swinging back to the Democrats. The time period between swings is getting shorter.

But, once again, one special election win in a three-way contest does not guarantee anything. Democrats should in no way feel complacent after this victory, nor should they feel that they have the magic campaign theme which will sweep the election next year. There's a lot of work to do before we get to next November, and Democrats shouldn't believe their own spin too much. A year and a half is an eternity in political time, and literally anything could happen between now and then. But it cannot be denied (to close with a medical metaphor) that Kathy Hochul's win in a very red district is indeed a hefty shot in the arm for Democrats' chances next year.

 

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Sometimes special elections are harbingers of things to come. And sometimes they are not. The tricky part is that nobody can tell the difference until long afterwards. Which certainly doesn't stop ...
Sometimes special elections are harbingers of things to come. And sometimes they are not. The tricky part is that nobody can tell the difference until long afterwards. Which certainly doesn't stop ...
 
 
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10:09 AM on 05/27/2011
Democrat Kathy Hochul’s victory in a 4-way race proves the conservative message is the mainstream message, that liberals are in the minority and that people want medicare reform. You ask how could that be? Because two self-branded conservatives took 52% percent of the vote and the liberals took only 48 percent (Hochul took 47% and Green Party took 1%). 52% for conservative patriots and 48% for the liberals. As Mr. Obama would say - that's a shellacking. Its a shame that the conservatives won the vote but the liberal won the election. Hochul would have been eating our dust had there been a run off due to the failure to obtain the majority of vote. Yes the democrat won; but the dems should not be so foolish to gloat with those stats.
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LizM
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12:12 PM on 05/27/2011
"... 52% for conservati­ve patriots and 48% for the liberals."

Do you realize what impact statements like this have on your credibility ... or, do you even care?

And, what kind of medicare reform do you think the majority of people want?
05:18 PM on 05/29/2011
Do you realize what impact a pet rock has on the breeding habits of channel catfish. . . or do you even care?

And what kind of medicare reform do the majority want...clearly not what the 48 percenter were espousing.
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PC Contrarian
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02:36 PM on 05/26/2011
I'm still waiting to see a Hochel or Dem plan to save Medicare.
Anybody have a link?
02:24 PM on 05/26/2011
Let the Republicans to do what they do best – self-destruct by hanging themselves on their own petards. The Democrat fight song needs to be: "Remember the NY 26th and Fight – Republican Destruction of Medicare!”
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02:01 PM on 05/26/2011
The republicans are stuck. They have to keep supporting the Ryan Plan lest the tea partiers make them wish they'd never been born. but, if they keep supporting it, they'll lose next year. Wow! They sure asked for it and deserve it. The intensity of the right wingers who are commenting here has increased because they are desperate and it's fun to smack them down. Their presidential wannabes are are a clusterf***, so there's no joy there either. They won't raise taxes on the rich so what will happen is the rich won't get a tax increase and republicans will lose their jobs. They may no longer believe in God after 2012 cause he's tossed them under the church bus.
Citizen54
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12:55 PM on 05/26/2011
The question remains of how to keep the Democrats from rolling over. As people have been saying here and elsewhere, this "everything is on the table" has got to stop. I even heard Ms Hochel say it last night.
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Awake-and-Sing
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01:04 PM on 05/26/2011
Agreed.

Ending Social Security and Medicare has to be OFF the table.
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studioh!
bridging the snarchasm
02:00 PM on 05/26/2011
it doesn't matter; the table only has 3 legs anyway
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SpinDizzy
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11:48 AM on 05/26/2011
The GOP chose to commit collective suicide by voting for the Ryan budget. It's now up to the Democrats to give them a decent burial.
11:08 AM on 05/26/2011
People still have a difficult time understanding the dynamics of a two party system in which both parties are held in such low esteem. Most elections in America are expressions of very negative feelings against whoever is in power and both parties seem to forget this as they go about governing either breaking promises or doing terrible things that they dare not have mentioned during the election campaign. Now it is the republicans turn to feel this outrage but the democrats should become more intelligent and learn this lesson.
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10:27 AM on 05/26/2011
Medicare seemed to be the big issue in this special election but there's much more. Many voters in both parties are rejecting the R's budget priorities. Most voters don't like to see profitable oil companies continue to receive subsidies. Most voters don't like to see wealthy taxpayers not paying their fair share. Most voters don't like spending so much on our military when everyone else is being asked to sacrifice. Seems like the political pendulum is quickly swinging back towards the middle.
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studioh!
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10:00 AM on 05/26/2011
the Rs said after the midterms: "the people have spoken"

and we are still speaking; but they don't want to hear what's not in their heads
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12:38 PM on 05/26/2011
the r's have never listened to the people,the problem is the PEOPLE
listening to the r's garbage.and fall hook line and sinker.like here in ohio.they listened to the "i am a christian " bs.and now the elderly, the poor, students are all paying because someone isn't going out to vote,and those that are,are controlling the state house and bonehead boehner.we need to vote.everytime.everytime,every election.when we do we win.it is that easy.
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08:43 AM on 05/26/2011
"But, once again, one special election win in a three-way contest does not guarantee anything. Democrats should in no way feel complacent after this victory, nor should they feel that they have the magic campaign theme which will sweep the election next year. There's a lot of work to do before we get to next November, and Democrats shouldn't believe their own spin too much. A year and a half is an eternity in political time, and literally anything could happen between now and then."

Well said. When Republicans won a Senate Race with Scott Brown, it did not mean we automatically won the senate the next general election.

There were other big factors to consider in the local race such as the Democrat who ran as a Tea party candidate and got 9% of the vote as you mentioned. Throw most of that 9% to the Republican and he wins.

Also, after a big scandal like this guy was caught in some people will just not vote or switch votes to make a statement. And speaking of not voting, of course a slightly different crowd comes out for Special elections then general elections.

A special election is also different because there is no 'incumbent". The supplicants are not a known quantity.
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11:26 AM on 05/26/2011
The only problem with your statement is one you have no data that those who voted for the third party candidate were republican, And you also got to factor in the fact that that district has 30,000 more registered republicans than democrats. So there really is no way to spin this when it pretty clear that they rejected Ryan's plan that the republican candidate embraced. We are going to see more people voting against rightwing social enginerring in the future. The only spinning is the republicon party spinning their wheels.
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01:06 PM on 05/26/2011
What nonsense.

The Republican candidate dropped 31%.

The Democratic candidate increased the Democratic vote by 21%.

If that doesn't alarm you, I truly hope you go into 2012 with that confidence.
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08:20 AM on 05/26/2011
Chris this is not just a battle over Medicare this is a battle over the survival of the working class of America, we all see how the tide in this country is slowly getting unbalanced, it is time to even the scales out and start cutting the middle class and poor a break and let the wealthy finally pay their way in life. They have been enjoying paying Washington for special interest favors to long and it is destroying the fabric of American lifestyles long enough. America wants to have that American dream back and stop sending those dreams overseas,Americans are a proud bunch they enjoy hard work and American pride, and we need a Government that is willing to work with the American people not against them!
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bigmadd
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11:40 AM on 05/26/2011
You are correct the American people are starting to wake up. After the flat out attacks on everything that is middleclass America our healthcare our retirements, our jobs, our wealth,our elderly, our schools, our rights, It looks like we are going to witness an American Spring. There is a rejection of the righting social engineering going on all across this country in the likes I have never seen before. When the republicons suffer hugh defeats in 2012 they can thank the Walker's and the Ryan's of their party. The so called teaparty movement has shed light on the true mind set of the republican party. America has now seen and will reject the republican party for along time coming.
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05:38 PM on 05/27/2011
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07:32 AM on 05/26/2011
If you play Harry Reid's speech backwards, you can hear him say "I buried Paul Ryan's budget."
Citizen54
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12:52 PM on 05/26/2011
The Walrus was Paul Ryan's budget.
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07:30 PM on 05/26/2011
TakeSake -

Now THAT was funny!

"I read the news today, oh boy..."

I'm still waiting for someone to paraphrase Sarah Palin: "Hochul's that workin' out for ya?"

Heh.
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06:37 AM on 05/26/2011
"Voters may have a short attention span these days, but it's not that short -- everyone still remembers who was using scare tactics the last time this came up."

Who's "everyone"?

"One party wins big for thirty years, and automatically assumes that the public is not paying attention and never will. When they actually lay their cards for radical change on the table, however, the public rolls over and goes back to sleep."

Fixed.
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alumcreek
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06:23 AM on 05/26/2011
It was obvious that the GOP would have at least a dozen reasons why their followers failed to follow them lemming-like in an area that is ultra Republican. Surely it was not the Ryan plan to comfort the already far too comfortable at the expense of the poor and middle class.

Any Republican ideologue is only too aware that the bottom 90% is anxious to make the top 10% very much richer at the expense of their progeny's ability to eat adequately, attend a good school and live a life of moderate comfort.

Lets regress to a feudalistic system so that the GOP's dreams become our national nightmare.
03:56 PM on 05/31/2011
Dear alumcreek,

The Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 70 Percent of Federal Income Taxes,

Why is that not enough for you?

Bywhatright

See http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/top10-percent-income-earners
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alumcreek
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05:37 PM on 05/31/2011
It will never be enough till they pay 101% of all taxes.