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Chris Weigant

Posted: March 29, 2010 07:41 PM

Tea Party Excess?

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A question which is causing no small degree of fear among Republican leaders in Washington right now is whether the Tea Parties are going to turn out to be a good thing or a bad thing for the Republican Party. Republican Party wonks are torn between welcoming the enthusiasm the Tea Party folks bring into their "big tent," all the while worrying that this very vocal group is going to be dictating what is and what is not acceptable in Republicanism from this point on. Which, the seasoned politicians and party hacks know, may prove to provoke a backlash among independent voters, and lead to losing elections Republicans should have won.

Call it the old "you sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind" problem. So far, Republicans appear willing to walk this tightrope, in anticipation of gaining all those lovely motivated voters -- but the saner heads among Republican officeholders are privately planning to give the Tea Parties only early lip service (in hopes of winning the primaries), and then quickly tacking away from them after the primaries are over (in hopes of winning the general elections). How this strategy plays out will be the most interesting dynamic in this year's midterms. And Democrats should do everything they can to exploit this schism in Republicanland.

The Tea Party movement is precisely that -- a movement. It is not a centralized party or group, and it really has no easily-identifiable spokesperson, other than Sarah Palin, who (to be charitable) is not exactly known for her ability of being able to provide details on issues or policies. Like any movement, it welcomes just about everyone into its ranks who agrees on a few basic things, and is actually comprised of several smaller entities, some of whom aren't exactly on the same page when it comes to strategy. Palin herself provided an ironic display of the disjointed nature of the movement (even though the media completely missed this irony) last week, when in the same day she appeared at a rally for John McCain (and against his Tea-Party-type primary opponent), and then later appeared over the state line at a pro-Tea-Party rally in Harry Reid's hometown. Palin is part of the Republican Party who strongly believes the Tea Parties can be a good thing for Republicans, if the Tea Partiers can be welcomed in and then directed to support mainstream Republican candidates (or "co-opted," in other words).

Voices on the Left delight in ridiculing the Tea Partiers, or painting the entire movement with a wide racist brush. This is due to the nature of the movement, where anybody is welcome. There is indeed a certain racist element within Tea Party rallies, as there is a certain element of wackadoodle-ism. But this sort of thing happens in any movement, from the Left or the Right (although the specific nature of the wackadoodleness does indeed change as you move on the political spectrum).

Now, I'm not saying the Tea Party wackadoodles shouldn't be exposed by the Left, in an attempt to shine the full glare of the media spotlight on the lunacy and nastiness being openly displayed by some Tea Partiers. But the Left itself shouldn't get complacent in the idea that this is purely a fringe group of crazy folks whose spelling skills (much less political philosophy) leave much to be desired. Because, while the lunatics get a lot of attention, it doesn't mean that the movement itself is solely comprised of such gadflies.

One faction of the Tea Party folks may very soon wrest control of a significant slice of the Republicans' party machinery away from the "old guard" Washington-insider crowd who has been running it. They are concentrating on what can only be called a bottom-up takeover of the party structure itself. Tea Party folks are snapping up local party precinct chairs, which are largely thankless party jobs taken by people absolutely committed to the party's cause. But there are a lot of them which are empty, or easily taken over. And these precinct chairs are the ones who get together to decide the state party's strategies, and (eventually) the national party's strategies as well. Not to mention which candidates to support. If the Tea Partiers fill enough of these positions, they will gain control of the Republican Party from within. Which is part of the fear, mentioned earlier, that the old guard Republicans in Washington have -- all of a sudden, their own cushy party jobs may be put at risk, as well as control of the entire party itself.

But that's more of a long-term threat to Republican party hacks. The more immediate question is what will happen in this year's midterm elections. The Tea Partiers, so far, have put up some candidates for some very interesting Republican primary races. Since they're not a national, centrally-controlled organization, this isn't true everywhere. And these races will likely play out differently in different parts of the country, especially considering which candidates actually decide to fully embrace the Tea Party label in their races. The quality of candidates varies, in other words, for both mainstream Republicans and Tea Party challengers, making it difficult to create sweeping statements about either side in this internecine struggle.

There are a few possible outcomes to having a Tea Party challenger in a Republican primary race. The Tea Partier could win the nomination, when running against someone the Republican Party thinks is the best candidate. This may happen in Florida, where Charlie Crist (once thought a shoo-in) may lose his primary race to Marco Rubio, the Tea Party upstart. It could also happen in Kentucky, which would be particularly embarassing for the Republican Party, because the party candidate was hand-picked by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and also because the Tea Party upstart is Ron Paul's son.

Of course, in other races, the Tea Party candidate could lose, to Republicans who have been in Washington for decades. John McCain springs to mind as someone who may defeat a surprisingly strong Tea Party primary challenger. This is where things get interesting, because (in states which allow it) the Tea Party candidate, after losing a Republican primary, could choose to run in the general election as a third-party (or Independent) candidate. Even in states where the Tea Party candidate wins the primary, the Republican could choose to go this route as well, and could even win in a general election as such (as Joe Lieberman did over on the Democratic side of things).

If there is no Tea Party candidate in the general election (in states which bar candidates who have run in a primary from changing their party to run as an Independent, for instance, or a Tea Partier who just decides not to run in the general election), it remains to be seen whether the Tea Partiers will turn out and reliably vote Republican. They may stay home instead (they likely won't be voting Democratic, no matter what happens), particularly if the Tea Party candidate lost a nasty primary race to a mainstream Republican. But that's probably overly-optimistic. Love them or hate them, you've got to at least allow that they do have a lot of enthusiasm, and that enthusiasm will likely translate to a big turnout at the polls.

The whole political calculus for a general election is a lot different than for a primary. And this is where Democrats could actually benefit from the Tea Party movement. Because if the Tea Party decides to go the third-party candidacy route, it could provide the margin of victory in races that otherwise would likely have been won by Republicans. Third parties split the vote of whatever major party they would normally be voting for. It's likely, for instance, that Bill Clinton never would have won his first presidential term without the presence of H. Ross Perot in the race. And it may be the only way Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid keeps his job this year (polls show him losing in a two-way race, but edging out a slim victory in a three-way race with a Tea Party candidate).

There's no guarantee of any of this, of course. Lieberman won his last race, after all, and not the Republican candidate. But the general strategy for any political candidate is to move towards your base in the primaries, and towards the center in the general election. Most elections these days are won by the independent vote in the middle, but the problem is that independents don't vote in primaries. Nobody much votes in primaries, for that matter (a 15 percent primary turnout is considered huge in some states). The ones who do are the loyal, committed base of the party.

Which leaves Republicans in a bind. Because the further they tack towards the Tea Parties in the primary season, the further they have tied themselves to the fortunes of the group. And defined themselves as supporting the group's goals. At the same time, the more the Tea Partiers get unruly and downright hateful at their rallies, the more it scares those independent voters who (in a normal year) would likely vote Republican. Independents, almost by definition, are wary of extremists of any stripe. Remember the "soccer moms" from elections past? Soccer moms think twice about aligning themselves with people who are seen as racist, and they are really driven away by violence or threats of violence. Which is why the Left is smart to continue shining the spotlight on such instances -- which even the mainstream media (who has, largely, been much more respectful of the Tea Partiers than they ever have been to movements coming from the Left, I might add) is now regularly pointing out when they cover Tea Party rallies.

Come the general election, many mainstream Republican candidates will likely attempt to drop the Tea Parties like a hot potato, but this may prove a bit more difficult than they think. Democratic candidates should try to show the public any radical statements made by Republicans to Tea Party groups during the primary season, because Republicans will likely be trying to distance themselves from such rhetoric after the primaries are behind them. But, even if Republicans are successful at such distancing, it may lead to Tea Party voter disillusionment by the general election.

This is the tightrope Republicans will have to walk this year. Convince enough moderates and independents that they aren't all that radical, while convincing the Tea Partiers that they are indeed just that radical.

Throughout it all, the more radical the Tea Party itself gets, the better it will likely be for Democrats in the future, even if they do lose seats this year. The more the Tea Party marginalizes its own movement by allowing racists and hatemongering a platform, the less effective it will prove to ultimately be. And if it leads to even one spectacular instance of violence (or "domestic terrorism" if you will), then the Tea Party movement will likely collapse and have to go through a rebirth phase (with a different label, most likely). But even in the absence of such a tragedy, the saner heads in the Republican Party are right to wonder whether this is going to wind up being a good thing for the party or not. From within or without, the Republican Party itself may become defined by the rigorous standards of the core Tea Party movement. And while that may be good news for them in the primaries -- and possibly even in this year's general elections -- it may also guarantee that the party shrinks in appeal to the general public for years to come.

What may determine the answer to the question of whether the Tea Parties are a good thing or bad for the Republican Party is how much they manage to appeal to independents and moderates. Independents will likely be the more reachable group, since a lot of them feel disillusioned by both parties. But "moderate" is not exactly the Tea Party's strong point, meaning they may further drive what used to be "moderate Republicans" (yes, such a species of voter does indeed exist) away from the party, possibly for a long time to come. Which is why the Republicans in Washington (those who know how to broaden their appeal in order to win elections) are so scared of the movement, and why they're downright terrified of saying anything negative about it (lest they themselves be ousted by the mob).

Which all adds up to a fascinating election season, no matter who comes out on top. Because this fight for the soul of the Republican Party may have implications which reverberate for a lot more election cycles to come.

 

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Skepticat
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02:06 PM on 04/11/2010
Unfortunately the gadflies ARE defining the movement because no one is discouraging the excesses of inflammatory signage or comments that make them look and sound so stupidly ignorant - or stepping up and sounding remotely articulate on behalf of the cause. Bwaaaaaaaa-aaaah I wan mah country back - just doesn't cut it if you want informed dialog. Neither does signage with the the president as the islamic commie nazi socialist Joker as if all these terms were interchangable. Granted, there's plenty to be upset about, there's no jobs, general worsening of economic status, and a very legitimate fear the future will be even worse. Their world is vanishing - and isn't coming back. Unfortunately if you let the ignorant speak for you - you never come out looking very smart.
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tralbry
05:54 PM on 04/10/2010
One more quick but important point. If the Democrats keep up unsubstantiated claims about ALL the tea parties and the counter-race-baiting and GOPers and calling them all "depraved" and so on then we will also begin to look shrill and disconnected. That doesn't seem like a winning strategy to me. And it will only exacerbate their resentments that they've been mis-treated. I think educating them and defeating some of their myths is far healthier.
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tralbry
05:49 PM on 04/10/2010
(continued)

Part 2 - Although it would have been naive to consider Obama a real progressive in the first place I am concerned at the steady tack rightward and worse yet, that some of the adoring partisan/idol-driven fans are following right behind him as he does. I suppose if Bernie Sanders could be stuffed into an "Obama Suit" and have the same charisma and generic rhetoric it might tack the other way but enough hypotheticals. My deeper concern is that the broad brush lumping of ALL the opposition to Democrats/Obama into a surreal stereotype is exactly the kind of tactic and mindset that we fought in the 1960's when conservatives did it to minorities, including AAs, hispanics, asians, native Americans, gays, even women (yes, I know actually a majority). I see all this incredible vitriol from the people here who then heap effusive praise for the "post-partisan" POTUS. Can you say "cognitive dissonance"? Tempts me to say WWBD, or rather what would Barack SAY? I can only imagine Obama, MLK and many other of our leaders embarrassed by the hatred seen here in a "liberal" blog.

In part I blame the so-called "Bush Derangement Syndrome" for this. After 8 long years of abuse from that some people are going nuts over the fear 2000 could happen again.

P.S. I'm not a centrist. The people I admire most are sometimes still called "dissidents" so I guess that makes me a radical left moderate.
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tralbry
05:49 PM on 04/10/2010
Part 1 - Good post, Chris. I appreciate the effort, although since it's posted here I don't expect it'll have much effect. The hyper-partisanship on both sides is out of control and for the same basic reason - fear. Palin, Bachmann, Beck, racists scare the Dems and the economy, taxes, misconstrued ideas about "socialism" and in some cases ascending control by former "minorities" scares the GOP. And then there is also "terrorism" that still has both sides in disproportionate panic albeit in different ways.

Your piece is focused on the political strategy and scenarios which in general is my least favorite part about the punditocracy since I'd prefer issue and policy based discussion but at least yours had some depth compared to the sound bites on TV. My focus is different. You talk about the battle for the soul of the GOP. They just seem to be in freefall. I'm worried more about the soul of the Democratic party.

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02:15 PM on 04/10/2010
the truth is this...
the tea party movement is a conservative movement the represents a specific portion
of people on the right.....
same way the progressive movement only represents a specific portion of people
on the left....
and both parties pay lip service to these movements in order to secure votes....
all too true.....
thats what politicians do... pay lip service...
actions speak louder than words....
and neither party actually delivers on actions to those groups..
I personally in my life am a relatively conservative person...
but I believe in balance in our politics....
and I firmly believe that the far right and the far left should never be placated with
actions.....to appease the fringes of both parties is to steer away from our purpose as a country
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tralbry
05:17 PM on 04/10/2010
Never placated? So now that the genuine left tires of Obama's extension of the Bush National Security state to the extent that even John Yoo is behind Obama, that means the left shouldn't be placated? Or if spending/deficits should come to the point where we are underwater then we shouldn't placate the right-leaning economists?

Never say never.
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edified
05:14 PM on 04/08/2010
"But it doesn't mean the movement itself is solely comprised of such gadflies"
No but they certainly are compromised by them.
As long as their loudest and most racially motivated capture the most attention they will have no credibility.
Which is fine by me.
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03:25 PM on 04/08/2010
People are assuming these folks are just loonies. They need to start really looking at the tea baggers. These folks didn't just get angry and come together. This is a movement by the far far right. The tea baggers you see on the buses are retired brothers of the Arian Nation and the Klu Klux Klan. There strategy is to look like Republicans, until they are the Republicans. Their motives are based on their underlying racial bias, which explains why Obama can do nothing right for them. They started this movement with the purpose of getting rid of the black President and replacing him with the new Riech. They are the ones leaking the stuff on Michael Steele so they can get rid of him before they take over the RNC.

This is not just a group of radical nuts, it is an organized attempt by the far right to take America away from the American people and create the white neo-Nazi America they all dream about.

We need to understand this movement and the press needs to start doing some real investigation before it is too late.
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tralbry
05:18 PM on 04/10/2010
Fist you make all kinds of unfounded assumptions about who they are and then you conclude with the "need to understand this movement". Which is it?
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lizt
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10:18 PM on 04/03/2010
Sorry, but I have to go with my Grandmother on this one. She always said "You are known by the company you keep." So, if you are not okay with the loonies in the TeaBag brigade then you shouldn't be hanging out with them.
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tralbry
04:52 PM on 04/10/2010
Bill Ayers! Reverend Wright! His father was a wellknown communist! You mean like that?

No thanks. Guilt by association doesn't work.
04:02 PM on 03/30/2010
You're deluding yourself if you think the Republicans are not welcoming this group of ranting hypocrites into their big tent. The Republicans are about Power, not policy. That's why they said "no" instead of "here are our ideas to cut medical costs and help the entire country."

The TeaBaggers, with their "Me First" philosophy, fit right into a no-longer-conservative culture that thinks money-- their money-- is the most important thing in life.

That's why TeaBaggers don't have a coherent set of beliefs and happily glom onto any preposterous thing they hear on television, just so long as it makes them richer, have more guns, drive bigger cars, and support a "screw the rest of you" attitude.
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06:15 PM on 03/31/2010
Or reinforce their beliefs that the government is hell bent on taking their money and their way of life away...No, they do not share a coherent set of beliefs because each of them has something different they are angry over...Ever wonder why they are not railing about creating jobs, but only about cutting off jobless benefits?...Yes, their money IS the most important thing in life and thus the continual bemoaning about socialism...Come now, when did HCR EVER even remotely suggest that the object of the game was to simply do away with private insurance carriers in favor or a total, complete government owned and operated healthcare system? When was it suggested that corporations and companies would be abolished, and they would become government owned and operated in their entirety? What congressperson coined the idea of taking every inch of private property in the country and deeding it to the US government?...then redistribute and run it all for the good of the "community" as a whole? THAT is SOCIALISM and NOBODY EVER even came close to suggesting anything that resembled that be enacted...
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06:26 PM on 03/31/2010
All these people see, and want to see, is that they are forced to surrender some of what they earn through taxation and it is not being spent on things they see as being of any benefit directly to them....They feel progressive taxation is nothing more than redistribution of wealth...their wealth...to people that have not earned it or do not deserve it, and for things we can surely and easily do without...or pay too much for to have. They label is socialism because that is what people such as Limabugh, Beck, Hannity and Palin call it and it neatly fits into their selfish belief systems...They have a slew of uber-conservative mouthpieces telling them 24/7 that they are absolutely right, have a reason to be angry and should fight to keep their wealth away from those that are bent on stealing it under colour of law to give to the lazy, worthless have-not's of society that haven't earned one thing in their useless lives in comparison to them.
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jsgaetano
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12:29 PM on 03/30/2010
If Tea Parties are welcoming hate groups with open arms, they deserve to be judged along with those hate groups.
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lizt
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10:19 PM on 04/03/2010
Exactly. You are known by the company you keep.
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tralbry
04:53 PM on 04/10/2010
If. What groups are you referring to if any?
12:15 PM on 03/30/2010
The "tea party" is not the majority of Americans.

They already have been taken over by the fringe extremists within their own group and they have no clear message.

They took the "tea party" name from the Boston tea party and claimed they were about taxes and wanted tax day protests.

Since then it has gone way out of control with a wide variety of disjointed messages as seen in the signs and bad behavior at some of the protests.

They were never about taxes or they would have protested during Bush, they supported Bush and the tax cuts to the top 2% and all the failed GOP/Bush policies and still claim close affiliation with the GOP.

When you look at the total population of the country and look at the actual numbers of the protests they are a very small group comparatively, they just shout and yell the loudest and get the most attention from the media.

What about the true majority of Americans who supported the health care bill and went about their silent protest getting it passed.

Americans as a majority voted for change and the majority of Americans are making it happen which seems to be something the "tea party" is unwilling to accept.

They aren't part of a solution but they have become a problem for everyone who has to let a small group of people take over the uncivil discourse and address them only instead of the real issues.
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edified
05:02 PM on 03/30/2010
Yes, a voice of sanity!!

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tralbry
05:47 PM on 04/10/2010
Part 1 - Good post, Chris. I appreciate the effort, although since it's posted here I don't expect it'll have much effect. The hyper-partisanship on both sides is out of control and for the same basic reason - fear. Palin, Bachmann, Beck, racists scare the Dems and the economy, taxes, misconstrued ideas about "socialism" and in some cases ascending control by former "minorities" scares the GOP. And then there is also "terrorism" that still has both sides in disproportionate panic albeit in different ways.

Your piece is focused on the political strategy and scenarios which in general is my least favorite part about the punditocracy since I'd prefer issue and policy based discussion but at least yours had some depth compared to the sound bites on TV. My focus is different. You talk about the battle for the soul of the GOP. They just seem to be in freefall. I'm worried more about the soul of the Democratic party.
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12:09 PM on 03/30/2010
I have to say this and It pains me to do it but, the entire tea party is racist The entire party is white. In this day and age how is that even possible? How do you create a non racist group of people that only seem to know other white people. We're talking about taxes and about the constitution etc right, only white people care about those things? There aren't any black people who agree with the tea party? Hispanics? Asians, East or native Indians? Hmmmmmmmm. It can't be done unless the point of it is race. So while it is all sunlight and rainbows to say oh, they aren't all racists pieces of garbage you, Chris, have fallen into the trap of the Tea party, maybe it is simply the trap of white people afraid to call other white people racists. The Tea Party is now and has always been about race. The GOP is embracing them because the thread that connects the libertarian, neo-con, evangelical disparate groups of the GOP is race, and hatred. Sorry but the days of saying maybe we need to understand a group that doesn't exclude people who spit in the face of black congressmen is a racist group. I'll tell you what. Go to a democratic rally and spit in the face of John Lewis, see what happens to you. Go to a normal GOP rally and spit in the face of John Lewis and see what happens to you.
06:24 PM on 03/30/2010
"Go to a democratic [sic] rally and spit in the face of John Lewis, see what happens to you. Go to a normal GOP rally and spit in the face of John Lewis and see what happens to you."

That would be an interesting experiment for everybody--except, of course, John Lewis--but it strikes me as likely that, after the Democratic rally, the experimenter would be in police custody (with plenty of time to reflect on what on earth a "normal" GOP rally would be) and so, unavailable to conduct the second part of the test. In any event, wouldn't what happens to the experimenter at one rally or the other (if not both) tend to bias his or her ability to evaluate the results--and, quite possibly, severely impair his or her ability to evaluate anything at all?

I'm certainly with you on the entire Tea Party movement being racist (consciously or not), but the political science experiment you suggest sounds too much like a game of rugby played by a team of one against a team of hundreds. I, for one, would want no part it. I don't speak for John Lewis or Chis Weigant, but I just can't see either of them volunteering to participate, either.

Isn't there some more convenient, more hygienic and less violent way to test your assertions?
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tralbry
04:56 PM on 04/10/2010
The entire tea party, eh? How many of them are there? What states do they live in? When you spoke with each and every one of them, was the interview more than an hour or less? Do get back to me as soon as you can.
12:04 PM on 03/30/2010
At this point the republican party appears to be just a shell for Rush, Glenn and Sarah and their followers - -the teapotty.
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11:31 AM on 03/30/2010
I agree that probably the majority of the Tea Party isn't racist, but nonetheless the whole movement reeks of ignorance.

As we all know, TEA stands for 'Taxed Enough Already'. What these teabaggers fail to realize is we currently have the lowest income tax rate in 50+ years and is far, far lower than the vast majority of other first-world countries. Obama actually lowered taxes at the beginning of his term for the vast majority of Americans and is only proposing to raise taxes on those making over $250k.

The teabaggers also keep insisting our country is headed towards socialism and that Obama 'hates' capitalism. Do these people even know what socialism is? They keep claiming healthcare reform is socialism, but the government is not taking over the entire industry. It's simply subsidizing those who can't afford insurance to health insurance companies.

I still have yet to see the tea party offering any solutions of any kind whatsoever. No, continually cutting taxes and lowering government regulation will not solve all of our problems. The government does not fail at 'everything' it does, unless you're calling the military, police, fire dept, etc failures. Start offering real solutions and people grounded in reality might start taking you seriously.
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lizt
former Army officer/lifelong liberal/pdx biker
10:23 PM on 04/03/2010
Exactly. They seem to be against lots of things but have absolutely no solutions for any of our problems. The mark of a political party is based upon solutions not screams.
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tralbry
04:57 PM on 04/10/2010
"Tea" is from the Boston Tea Parties. The acronym came afterwards.
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11:06 AM on 03/30/2010
It is possible to over think a simple ISSUE, most of the Tea Partyers feel betrayed, used and abused,rightly so. Therefore, are now looking for someone to blame because they never thought it could happen to them, just other folk. Perhaps they should start with a new frame of mind, for it has been said "To Do the same thing over and over again and expect a diffrent outcome is a form of MADDNESS".
12:09 PM on 03/30/2010
They've been used and abused before, but by "someone they would feel comfortable having a beer with."