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Why Climate Change Will Make You Love Big Government

Posted: 01/26/2012 12:00 pm

A Secret History of Free Enterprise and the Government That Made It Possible

Crossposted from Tom Dispatch.com

Look back on 2011 and you’ll notice a destructive trail of extreme weather slashing through the year. In Texas, it was the driest year ever recorded.  An epic drought there killed half a billion trees, touched off wildfires that burned four million acres, and destroyed or damaged thousands of homes and buildings.  The costs to agriculture, particularly the cotton and cattle businesses, are estimated at $5.2 billion -- and keep in mind that, in a winter breaking all sorts of records for warmth, the Texas drought is not yet over.

In August, the East Coast had a close brush with calamity in the form of Hurricane Irene. Luckily, that storm had spent most of its energy by the time it hit land near New York City. Nonetheless, its rains did at least $7 billion worth of damage, putting it just below the $7.2 billion worth of chaos caused by Katrina back in 2005.

Across the planet the story was similar. Wildfires consumed large swaths of Chile. Colombia suffered its second year of endless rain, causing an estimated $2 billion in damage. In Brazil, the life-giving Amazon River was running low due to drought. Northern Mexico is still suffering from its worst drought in 70 years. Flooding in the Thai capital, Bangkok, killed over 500 and displaced or damaged the property of 12 million others, while ruining some of the world’s largest industrial parks. The World Bank estimates the damage in Thailand at a mind-boggling $45 billion, making it one of the most expensive disasters ever.  And that’s just to start a 2011 extreme-weather list, not to end it.

Such calamities, devastating for those affected, have important implications for how we think about the role of government in our future. During natural disasters, society regularly turns to the state for help, which means such immediate crises are a much-needed reminder of just how important a functional big government turns out to be to our survival.

These days, big government gets big press attention -- none of it anything but terrible.  In the United States, especially in an election year, it’s become fashionable to beat up on the public sector and all things governmental (except the military).  The Right does it nonstop.  All their talking points disparage the role of an oversized federal government. Anti-tax zealot Grover Norquist famously set the tone for this assault.  "I'm not in favor of abolishing the government,” he said. “I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub." He has managed to get 235 members of the House of Representatives and 41 members of the Senate to sign his “Taxpayer Protection Pledge” and thereby swear never, under any circumstances, to raise taxes.

By now, this viewpoint has taken on the aura of folk wisdom, as if the essence of democracy were to hate government. Even many on the Left now regularly dismiss government as nothing but oversized, wasteful, bureaucratic, corrupt, and oppressive, without giving serious consideration to how essential it may be to our lives.

But don’t expect the present “consensus” to last.  Global warming and the freaky, increasingly extreme weather that will accompany it is going to change all that. After all, there is only one institution that actually has the capacity to deal with multibillion-dollar natural disasters on an increasingly routine basis.  Private security firms won’t help your flooded or tornado-struck town. Private insurance companies are systematically withdrawing coverage from vulnerable coastal areas. Voluntary community groups, churches, anarchist affinity groups -- each may prove helpful in limited ways, but for better or worse, only government has the capital and capacity to deal with the catastrophic implications of climate change.

Consider Hurricane Irene: as it passed through the Northeast, states mobilized more than 100,000 National Guard troops. New York City opened 78 public emergency shelters prepared to house up to 70,000 people. In my home state, Vermont, where the storm devastated the landscape, destroying or damaging 200 bridges, more than 500 miles of road, and 100 miles of railroad, the National Guard airlifted in free food, water, diapers, baby formula, medicine, and tarps to thousands of desperate Vermonters trapped in 13 stranded towns -- all free of charge to the victims of the storm.

The damage to Vermont was estimated at up to $1 billion. Yet the state only has 621,000 residents, so it could never have raised all the money needed to rebuild alone. Vermont businesses, individuals, and foundations have donated at least $4 million, possibly up to $6 million in assistance, an impressive figure, but not a fraction of what was needed. The state government immediately released $24 million in funds, crucial to getting its system of roads rebuilt and functioning, but again that was a drop in the bucket, given the level of damage.  A little known state-owned bank, the Vermont Municipal Bond Bank, also offered low-interest, low-collateral loans to towns to aid reconstruction efforts. But without federal money, which covered 80% to 100% of the costs of rebuilding many Vermont roads, the state would still be an economic basket case.  Without aid from Washington, the transportation network might have taken years to recover.

As for flood insurance, the federal government is pretty much the only place to get it. The National Flood Insurance Program has written 5.5 million policies in more than 21,000 communities covering $1.2 trillion worth of property. As for the vaunted private market, for-profit insurance companies write between 180,000 and 200,000 policies in a given year.  In other words, that is less than 5% of all flood insurance in the United States. This federally subsidized program underwrites the other 95%. Without such insurance, it’s not complicated: many waterlogged victims of 2011, whether from record Midwestern floods or Hurricane Irene, would simply have no money to rebuild.

Or consider sweltering Texas. In 2011, firefighters responded to 23,519 fires. In all, 2,742 homes were destroyed by out-of-control wildfires. But government action saved 34,756 other homes. So you decide: Was this another case of wasteful government intervention in the marketplace, or an extremely efficient use of resources?

Facing Snowpocalypse Without Plows

The early years of this century have already offered a number of examples of how disastrous too little government can be in the face of natural disaster, Katrina-inundated New Orleans in 2005 being perhaps the quintessential case. 

There are, however, other less noted examples that nonetheless helped concentrate the minds of government planners.  For example, in the early spring of 2011, a massive blizzard hit New York City. Dubbed “Snowmageddon” and “Snowpocalypse,” the storm arrived in the midst of tense statewide budget negotiations, and a nationwide assault on state workers (and their pensions).

In New York, Mayor Mike Bloomberg was pushing for cuts to the sanitation department budget. As the snow piled up, the people tasked with removing it -- sanitation workers -- failed to appear in sufficient numbers. As the city ground to a halt, New Yorkers were left to fend for themselves with nothing but shovels, their cars, doorways, stores, roads all hopelessly buried. Chaos ensued.  Though nowhere near as destructive as Katrina, the storm became a case study in too little governance and the all-too-distinct limits of “self-reliance” when nature runs amuck. In the week that followed, even the rich were stranded amid the mounting heaps of snow and uncollected garbage.

Mayor Bloomberg emerged from the debacle chastened, even though he accused the union of staging a soft strike, a work-to-rule-style slowdown that held the snowbound city hostage. The union denied engaging in any such illegal actions. Whatever the case, the blizzard focused thinking locally on the nature of public workers. It suddenly made sanitation workers less invisible and forced a set of questions: Are public workers really “union fat cats” with “sinecures” gorging at the public trough? Or are they as essential to the basic functions of the city as white blood cells to the health of the human body? Clearly, in snowbound New York it was the latter. No sanitation workers and your city instantly turns chaotic and fills with garbage, leaving street after street lined with the stuff.

More broadly the question raised was: Can an individual, a town, a city, even a state really “go it alone” when the weather turns genuinely threatening? Briefly, all the union bashing and attacks on the public sector that had marked that year’s state-level budget debates began to sound unhinged.

In the Big Apple at least, when Irene came calling that August, Mayor Bloomberg was ready. He wasn’t dissing or scolding unions.  He wasn’t whining about the cost of running a government.  He embraced planning, the public sector, public workers, and coordinated collective action. His administration took unprecedented steps like shutting down the subway and moving its trains to higher ground. Good thing they did. Several low-lying subway yards flooded.  Had trains been parked there, many millions in public capital might have been lost or damaged.

The Secret History of Free Enterprise in America

When thinking about the forces of nature and the nature of infrastructure, a slightly longer view of history is instructive. And here’s where to start: in the U.S., despite its official pro-market myths, government has always been the main force behind the development of a national infrastructure, and so of the country’s overall economic prosperity.

One can trace the origins of state participation in the economy back to at least the founding of the republic: from Alexander Hamilton’s First Bank of the United States, which refloated the entire post-revolutionary economy when it bought otherwise worthless colonial debts at face value; to Henry Clay’s half-realized program of public investment and planning called the American System; to the New York State-funded Erie Canal, which made the future Big Apple the economic focus of the eastern seaboard; to the railroads, built on government land grants, that took the economy west and tied the nation together; to New Deal programs that helped pulled the country out of the Great Depression and built much of the infrastructure we still use like the Hoover Dam, scores of major bridges, hospitals, schools, and so on; to the government-funded and sponsored interstate highway system launched in the late 1950s; to the similarly funded space race, and beyond.  It’s simple enough: big government investments (and thus big government) has been central to the remarkable economic dynamism of the country.

Government has created roads, highways, railways, ports, the postal system, inland waterways, universities, and telecommunications systems. Government-funded R&D, as well as the buying patterns of government agencies -- (alas!) both often connected to war and war-making plans -- have driven innovation in everything from textiles and shipbuilding to telecoms, medicine, and high-tech breakthroughs of all sorts.  Individuals invent technology, but in the United States it is almost always public money that brings the technology to scale, be it in aeronautics, medicine, computers, or agriculture.

Without constant government planning and subsidies, American capitalism simply could not have developed as it did, making ours the world’s largest economy. Yes, the entrepreneurs we are taught to venerate have been key to all this, but dig a little deeper and you soon find that most of their oil was on public lands, their technology nurtured or invented thanks to government-sponsored R&D, or supported by excellent public infrastructure and the possibility of hiring well-educated workers produced by a heavily subsidized higher-education system. Just to cite one recent example, the now-familiar Siri voice-activated command system on the new iPhone is based on -- brace yourself -- government-developed technology.

And here’s a curious thing: everybody more or less knows all this and yet it is almost never acknowledged. If one were to write the secret history of free enterprise in the United States, one would have to acknowledge that it has always been and remains at least a little bit socialist.  However, it’s not considered proper to discuss government planning in open, realistic, and mature terms, so we fail to talk about what government could -- or rather, must -- do to help us meet the future of climate change. 

Storm Socialism

The onset of ever more extreme and repeated weather events is likely to change how we think about the role of the state.  But attitudes toward the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which stands behind state and local disaster responses, suggest that we’re hardly at that moment yet.  In late 2011, with Americans beleaguered by weather disasters, FEMA came under attack from congressional Republicans, eager to starve it of funds.  One look at FEMA explains why.

Yes, when George W. Bush put an unqualified playboy at its helm, the agency dealt disastrously with Hurricane Katrina back in 2005. Under better leadership, however, it has been anything but the sinister apparatus of repression portrayed by legions of rightists and conspiracy theorists.  FEMA is, in fact, an eminently effective mechanism for planning focused on the public good, not private profit, a form of public insurance and public assistance for Americans struck by disaster. Every year FEMA gives hundreds of millions of dollars to local firefighters and first responders, as well as victims dealing with the aftershock of floods, fires, and the other calamities associated with extreme weather events.

The agency’s work is structured around what it calls “the disaster life cycle” -- the process through which emergency managers prepare for, respond to, and help others recover from and reduce the risk of disasters.  More concretely, FEMA’s services include training, planning, coordinating, and funding state and local disaster managers and first responders, grant-making to local governments, institutions, and individuals, and direct emergency assistance that ranges from psychological counseling and medical aid to emergency unemployment benefits. FEMA also subsidizes long-term rebuilding and planning efforts by communities affected by disasters. In other words, it actually represents an excellent use of your tax dollars to provide services aimed at restoring local economic health and so the tax base. The anti-government Right hates FEMA for the same reason that they hate Social Security -- because it works!

As it happens, thanks in part to the congressional GOP’s sabotage efforts, thousands of FEMA’s long-term recovery projects are now on hold, while the cash-strapped agency shifts its resources to deal with only the most immediate crises.  This represents a dangerous trend, given what historical statistics tell us about our future.  In recent decades, the number of Major Disaster Declarations by the federal government has been escalating sharply: only 12 in 1961, 17 in 1971, 15 in 1981, 43 in 1991, and in 2011 -- 99!  As a result, just when Hurricane Irene bore down on the East Coast, FEMA’s disaster relief fund had already been depleted from $2.4 billion as the year began to a mere $792 million.

Like it or not, government is a huge part of our economy. Altogether, federal, state, and local government activity -- that is collecting fees, taxing, borrowing and then spending on wages, procurement, contracting, grant-making, subsidies and aid -- constitutes about 35% of the gross domestic product. You could say that we already live in a somewhat “mixed economy”: that is, an economy that fundamentally combines private and public economic activity.

The intensification of climate change means that we need to acknowledge the chaotic future we face and start planning for it.  Think of what’s coming, if you will, as a kind of storm socialism.

After all, climate scientists believe that atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide beyond 350 parts-per-million (ppm) could set off compounding feedback loops and so lock us into runaway climate change. We are already at 392 ppm. Even if we stopped burning all fossil fuels immediately, the disruptive effect of accumulated CO2 in the atmosphere is guaranteed to hammer us for decades.  In other words, according to the best-case scenario, we face decades of increasingly chaotic and violent weather.

In the face of an unraveling climate system, there is no way that private enterprise alone will meet the threat. And though small “d” democracy and “community” may be key parts of a strong, functional, and fair society, volunteerism and “self-organization” alone will prove as incapable as private enterprise in responding to the massive challenges now beginning to unfold.

To adapt to climate change will mean coming together on a large scale and mobilizing society’s full range of resources. In other words, Big Storms require Big Government.  Who else will save stranded climate refugees, or protect and rebuild infrastructure, or coordinate rescue efforts and plan out the flow and allocation of resources?

It will be government that does these tasks or they will not be done at all.

Christian Parenti, author of the recently published Tropic of Chaos: Climate Change and the New Geography of Violence (Nation Books), is a contributing editor at the Nation magazine, a Puffin Writing Fellow, and a professor at the School for International Training, Graduate Institute. His articles have appeared in Fortune, the New York Times, the Washington Post, TomDispatch, and the London Review of Books, among other places.

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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
02:37 PM on 01/30/2012
Excellently put.
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eaarth2
“An era ends when its illusions are exhausted
05:29 AM on 01/30/2012
The Anti Government megaphone since Reagan is long in tooth. The writer of this article Mr. Parenti exposes it for what it is- a redux of 1920s Republican ideas that cannot perceive something like climate change. That is why so many conservatives call global warming a hoax- it comes at at a time they have achieved the kind of lopsided society they have always wanted- one very rich- and many middle class and poor just hanging on.

This society however needs increasing amounts of energy- to fuel its consumption for the masses- but most of it comes from fossil fuels. This is the real Paradox- Capitalism in its present guise cannot continue- unless the Planet is sacrificed.

The warming already in the pipeline will be brutal in years to come. C02 at 397ppm (by spring) and rising now over 2ppm a year is reaching the point of no return in keeping global temperatures to a rise of 2 degrees C & 450ppm C02. By the 2020s the increasing global havoc from climate change will become too big- without a stronger an more active government many Americans will begin to suffer increasing hardships. I doubt HP. Starbucks, IBM and Goldman Sachs will be coming to the rescue. The anti Government global warming is a hoax crusaders eschew big Government - their inaction with global warming now guarantees it.
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Doug Brockman
02:22 PM on 01/28/2012
I hear it's pretty chilly upthere in Alaska this winter:

Ice in Bering Sea threatens crab fishery

Southward extension is farthest over the past 20 years.

By MICHELLE THERIAULT BOOTS
Anchorage Daily News

Published: January 26th, 2012 02:23 PM
Last Modified: January 26th, 2012 02:23 PM

Sea ice is encroaching unusually early on the central Bering Sea, threatening to grind Alaska's economically important snow crab fishery to a halt at the peak of the season, leaving crabbers facing major losses.

Earlier-than-expected ice is moving south over prime crabbing grounds, forcing boats away from their catch and putting millions of dollars of equipment in jeopardy.

These kind of "mother nature effects" are part of the fishing business everywhere, said Karen Gillis, the executive director of the Bering Sea Fishermen's Association.

But this fishery, which was expected to net 80 million pounds this year, hasn't seen a natural event like this in 20 years, she said, and it could have a devastating economic impact on crabbers and their families.

Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2012/01/25/2283664/ice-in-central-bering-sea-is-threatening.html#storylink=cpy
01:54 PM on 01/27/2012
Government propaganda! Climate change has gone on since the beginning of the planet. - Follow the money: who gets rich off of this nonsense? The politicians & their pals.
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intolleft
ObamaTAX...getting you shovel ready
03:38 PM on 01/27/2012
The scientists aren't doing too bad either.
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WI Patriot
Defending the Constitution.
11:00 AM on 01/29/2012
lol nice one, and so true
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
02:38 PM on 01/30/2012
You realize, do you not, that the single best place for a climate scientist to make money right now is in the employ of fossil fuel interests?Otherwise, most of them DON'T make much.
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Ice4you
I hate ignorance Fox style
05:51 PM on 01/27/2012
You remind me of the people that shouted "The earth is flat" I don't belief the scientists. My church tells me it's a lie.
01:17 PM on 01/28/2012
Since there's no chuch involved here, let's try other scientists -who refute the claim of climate warming. Science is great; but, as you probably know, not all agree with each other. - In fact, some are now saying we're heading into ice age. (Years & years away, of course.)
02:39 AM on 01/30/2012
How about the sky is falling?
Your mantra.
The scientists are YOUR priests.
Sooooooo?
08:08 AM on 01/27/2012
Global Skepticism and Global Change
http://www.berfrois.com/2012/01/the-editorial-climate-pilkey/
12:52 AM on 01/27/2012
Even the most rabid anti-government Repug voter will have his (her) hand out if a disaster harms him or his family.

Human nature.

Just saying.......
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WI Patriot
Defending the Constitution.
11:04 AM on 01/29/2012
They would be too busy fending off the mobs of entitlement liberals - since the govt wouldnt be taking care of them anymore.
10:41 PM on 01/26/2012
Will you be so supportive of big government when they decide to ban people living in Vermont becasue of the expense of socilaising losses there??
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
02:40 PM on 01/30/2012
So, basically you base your worldview on imaginary fears, rather than reality.

Forgive me if I don't take your advice on anything...
05:36 PM on 01/30/2012
No, it is simply the logical extension of big government. When you hand over power to some nameless government, eventually those smart people you trust to make your decisions for you will decide that it is better for the "state" to avoid the expense of rebuildling in areas which are not cost effective, or are at risk of expensive rebuilding, to say you cannot live in this area.

It's not fears, just an ability to look at what you suggest and see logically where it leads.

If you need forgiveness, then you can have it, but I couldnt care less if you take my advice, i'm not that arrogant to think I know better than you what works for you.
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WI Patriot
Defending the Constitution.
10:41 PM on 01/26/2012
Who will save you? Who has always saved you? The military. When cops didn't protect and serve and abandoned their posts at Katrina - who was there? Who took charge and fixed the charlie foxtrot public service civilians created?

The military - that is why they are respected by the People and civil servants and big govt are not.
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benseccorp
Semper Fidelis
11:06 PM on 01/26/2012
FEMA was a real embarrasment during Katrina.
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WI Patriot
Defending the Constitution.
11:32 PM on 01/26/2012
Hah no kidding - Hey Christian Parenti - You wonder why Americans have zero confidence in Big Government?

"Two days after Katrina hit, Marty Bahamonde, one of the only FEMA employees in New Orleans, wrote to Brown that "the situation is past critical" and listed problems including many people near death and food and water running out at the Superdome.

Brown's entire response was: "Thanks for the update. Anything specific I need to do or tweak?"
http://articles.cnn.com/2005-11-03/us/brown.fema.emails_1_international-arabian-horse-association-marty-bahamonde-e-mails?_s=PM:US
02:41 AM on 01/30/2012
Who?????
You better get a another opinion.
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KarmaPatrol
Riverboat Gambler, satellite whisperer. Independe
08:35 PM on 01/26/2012
If there is an increasing number of catastrophes affect property and infrastructure, I would think insurance companies would be the first to act with adjusting premiums to increasing risk (example: raising premiums on usually expensive, beachside real estate).
02:42 AM on 01/30/2012
Mine have doubled since Katrina.
I live in the Northeast.
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Doug Brockman
08:26 PM on 01/26/2012
That's what you get for reading The Nation instead of Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal:

"Alarmism over climate is of great benefit to many, providing government funding for academic research and a reason for government bureaucracies to grow. Alarmism also offers an excuse for governments to raise taxes, taxpayer-funded subsidies for businesses that understand how to work the political system, and a lure for big donations to charitable foundations promising to save the planet. Lysenko and his team lived very well, and they fiercely defended their dogma and the privileges it brought them.

Speaking for many scientists and engineers who have looked carefully and independently at the science of climate, we have a message to any candidate for public office: There is no compelling scientific argument for drastic action to "decarbonize" the world's economy. Even if one accepts the inflated climate forecasts of the IPCC, aggressive greenhouse-gas control policies are not justified economically. "
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
02:43 PM on 01/30/2012
That article was written by scientists who are paid, in large part, by the fossil fuel industry. Do you SEE the irony?
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artleads
Let's have a national retreat.
07:37 PM on 01/26/2012
True, but let's look for the kind of "face" to government that conservatives can live with. We need to humanize government to the gfreatest extent possible, as well as be as systematic as we can. We need to look at the very biggest picture--the entire planet--as a basis for government plans.
01:57 PM on 01/27/2012
You really trust the government that has never done anything right!
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artleads
Let's have a national retreat.
02:21 PM on 01/27/2012
I and a lot of other seniors trust government to send our Social Security checks on time, with accurate accounting. There are many other ways in which the government acts to benefit the people. I trust the government not to fleece me the way my credit card companies do when they charge me over 20% interest on my credit cards.
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Dallas Dunlap
07:52 PM on 01/28/2012
naaman: World War II, TVA, Social Security, landing men on the moon, the Hubble Space telescope, the interstate highway system, land grant colleges, rovers and satellite exploration of Mars, weather forecasting and hurricane modeling...I could go on but my typing finger is getting tired. Next time you're lost, don't bother with that government GPS. The govt can't do anything right.
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Bart DePalma
Bart DePalma
07:29 PM on 01/26/2012
Never allow a crisis to go to waste?

This superstitious nonsense reminds me the scene from the Mel Gibson movie, Apocalypso, where the Mayan "big government" are sacrificing each other to the Sun God to ward off a drought.

http://youtu.be/EIyZsABI8Gk
02:48 AM on 01/30/2012
Unfortunately
We will be sacrificed for the new religion.
06:39 PM on 01/26/2012
What you say makes perfect sense. Unfortunately for perfect sense, it's 21st-century America.

There is an alternative scenario. It's an awful scenario for most of us, but it's real enough.

"To adapt to climate change will mean coming together on a large scale and mobilizing society’s full range of resources. In other words, Big Storms require Big Government. Who else will save stranded climate refugees, or protect and rebuild infrastructure, or coordinate rescue efforts and plan out the flow and allocation of resources?

"It will be government that does these tasks or they will not be done at all."

The fact is, there are plenty of the very wealthy and the very powerful who are just fine with these tasks not being done at all. It is entirely plausible that the 1 percent will take the "gated community" to its logical conclusion and use their own resources to save their own lives and property, leaving the rest of us to our fates.

It could happen. If Republican extremism, Democratic cowardice, the control of politics by corporate money and of the media by the right-wing noise machine, and public ignorance and intellectual laziness continue, it almost certainly will happen.
01:58 PM on 01/27/2012
You're fooling yourself.
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
02:48 PM on 01/30/2012
Oh? You think Romney and the Koch brothers will be providing food and shelter for drought, flood, fire, and storm victims?
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Kenneth Alton
06:15 PM on 01/26/2012
It is equally probable that when people stand amidst the rubble of their lives rather than look to government, they will look to superstition or religion. Indeed, in some parts of the world (and even the U.S.) that is already the case. Flood? Blame it on a witch, find her, and burn her. Drought? It's those gays - they have angered Heaven, turned the nation away from all things godly. Pestilence? Kill an albino and weave a spell to cure it. Crop failures? Wage war on the infidels in the name of God (and, incidentally, confiscate their land).
02:51 AM on 01/30/2012
You mean like the alarmists
Who would love to eradicate half of mankind?
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
02:49 PM on 01/30/2012
You're projecting again. WE don't want to eradicate anybody - that's where YOUR way would take us.
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Djay0252
America needs to Bless God
03:56 PM on 01/26/2012
He's just trying to promote his book.