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Claudia Ricci

Claudia Ricci

Posted: March 21, 2010 12:43 PM

Can We Please Stop the Spitting?

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And now, finally, we've almost got it. We've waited, what, 100 years? But health care legislation looks to be a go. It's a fabulously historic moment for sure. It isn't the bill that liberal Democrats most wanted (no public option) but it's a huge step forward. It provides affordable coverage to 32 million Americans who have no insurance; it keeps insurance companies from denying coverage -- or hiking rates-- to sick people who most need it. It lowers drug costs for seniors, it promotes preventive care, and miracle of miracles, according to the Congressional Budget Office, it even reduces the national debt.

But what struck me again this morning is the fact that the fight over health care legislation has in the last year become such a flashpoint for vicious left/right debate. An article in The Washington Post suggests that by passing the bill, Democrats ramp up ideological warfare like few bills that have come before.

Republicans, painting the bill as "Obamacare," call it a socialist plot. According to the Post, former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich (seemingly forgetting about the far more "socialized" experiment now known as "Medicare") called the health care bill "the most radical social experiment . . . in modern times."

Of course, passing legislation that gives insurance to millions of Americans who don't have it and preventing medical bankruptcies for millions more who have lousy insurance could very well work in the Democrat's favor.

But whatever the political fallout, the Post points out what all of us -- no matter if we tune into Fox News or MSNBC -- already know: that the health-care battle has deepened the ideological divide in this country. It was evident last summer in the emergence of the Tea Party movement. It was evident yesterday in DC when Tea Party members protesting the health care bill on the steps of the Capitol spit (literally and figuratively) racial and other slurs at black and gay members of Congress.

As the Post points out, "partisanship and political polarization are measurably worse today."

Yeah. That's for sure. And the question is, is there any cure for that?

It's not like our modern media is poised to help the situation. If anything, the rise of the blogosphere, and the emergence -- and huge popularity -- of the most strident voices of radio talk shows and radical television pundits is just amping up the vicious vitriol of the "debate." A Fox News channel that tries to pass itself off as journalism, but is anything but impartial, only exacerbates the situation. And the folks on the left don't always help either. Sometimes Keith Obermann's tone and those searing dark eyes of his scare me almost much as do the total crazies on the right.

Moderation seems more and more out of reach. The media, always angling to hype the conflict, the horse race, the war, inevitably feeds the anger on both sides. What comes with that is just more anger.

We can take pride as a nation in the fact that by passing health care reform, we are at last joining the rest of the modern industrialized world that attends to the health needs of its citizens. Yes, it is finally happening, but we have to ask, where do go from here?

As a nation we need desperately to turn down the heat, and to find ways if not to work together, at least to speak to each other in civil discourse.

At a moment in history when Congress is attending to the health of the nation through reconciliation measures, it is urgent that we bring to the fore a serious discuss about how to foster conciliation. How to heal. The message that filled Obama's manifesto, The Audacity of Hope, was that we as a nation need to build bridges, to find common ground between differences. That message helped to elect him. Obama sought to hold that posture -- seeking bipartisanship, avoiding confrontation -- on health care all last year, and in the end, legislation stalled.

It wasn't until he was willing to push the Dems to go it alone that the health care bill gained momentum.

Which leads to the question, can we hope to make real change in this country and at the same time do what Obama suggested was possible during the election, bridge the ideological divide?

It can be argued that as the benefits of real reform begin to manifest themselves -- i.e., when millions of ordinary people can finally see a doctor when they need to -- then there will be more widespread momentum to rally together behind common goals.

I'd like to believe that this is true, at least, we need this as a goal to lead us forward.

 

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MThomasNC
Retired, Sassy, Senior Citizen
03:23 PM on 03/22/2010
When you put Keith in the same league w the 24/7 Fox News Station, the 'right-wing' talk show network - I have problems. Keith is not a network, he has a one hour show as well as Rachael. Compare those couple hours to the 24/7 conservative networks out there lying, distorting, hating, stirring up trouble - creating an alternative narrative on what was done to the country, who did it and when did they do it.

Yes, there is ideological debates going in the country, but it is on policy process differences - the republicans still want to CONTROL THE PROCESS WITH THEIR IDEAS. Take the HCR, it's not a liberal/progressive bill. It is the same as Romney(R) instituted in MA. Same ideals that Nixon, Eisenhower wanted to do. As they say the progressive/liberas wanted a New Deal bill with 'single payer or public option or Medicare buy-in'. But that did not happen - we got a conservative bill.

Where the problem lies is that the conservatives painted it as such with the media as the echo chamber. Liberals/progressive should be pissed off but ironically it is the dumb down 'tea baggers' following their masters to paint the president as ineffective, as not one of us and like good soldiers they went marching of to the picket lines with their vile, un-american signs becoming the laughing stock of the world. How uneducated, uninformed to show signs that read 'Take the Govt hands of my Medicare'.
02:28 PM on 03/22/2010
It hasn't deepened the divide it has merely exposed it more clearly than usual. Why can't we all get along. because we can't. We have different interests priorities ologies and isms. This won't change.

Now all these people that hate the bill now, may eventually come to love it as seniors regardless of ideology love medicare, but that doesn't mean they will like the next big government program.

The discourse was civil only words were thrown, one can ask for nothing more in a democracy. To expect those with strong ideological differences however regressive to contain their anger while speaking would only risk them finding a less productive outlet for anger they truly feel.

They got to say their piece. They will get to campaign aggressively against the perceived perpetrators and they will win or lose. That is the beauty of our democracy it allows positive outlets for anger and frustration. One attempts to bottle up such feelings to have a polite PC discourse at their own peril.

Moderation is not out of reach look at the bill that resulted. As center as it gets as politicians tacked between the vitriol of the right and left. Democracy isn't pretty it isn't efficient but despite the strong feelings on both side this debate occured wihtout anything more than hard verbal jabs and roundhouses.

Indeed the passion of the people openly expressed is likely necessary to warn the politicians where no mans land truly is.
12:44 PM on 03/22/2010
When vicious and ignorant right wing extremist take over a major party it is the height of foolishness to try to be polite while they are busy destroting the country.
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TRex86
Enjoying life in West Ohio
11:59 AM on 03/22/2010
Newt's comment says it all. Health reform will be as big a POLITICAL disaster as LBJ's civil rights legislation. Wow. Let's digest that. Newt can look upon some of the most important legislation of the 20th Century purely in terms of Machiavellian political maneuvering. This transcends the closet racism of the Southern Strategy. It is breath-takingingly evil. I thought only Karl Rove saw things this way. I say we need more such political disasters and fewer morally challenged, burnt-out politicians.
09:14 PM on 03/21/2010
When this passes, people will see that the Government is not killing people and is not telling people that they won't get help when they need it.

Obama will secure yet another victory PR-wise
06:31 PM on 03/21/2010
We are all proud of how diverse our country is - until that diversity gets in the way of what we personally want. We all have to live together in this country, and we all have different life experiences that form our opinions and our beliefs. What is right for you may not be right for someone else (and vice versa). Republicans are not evil, they are just different because they have had different life experiences. I am not willing to hate my neighbors simply because they are Republican - where does that kind of discrimination end???... Nevermind, I know exactly where is ends, my grandmother told me all about her family's escape from Poland just before WWII.

I try to live my life by treating people the way I want to be treated. I'm embarrassed and saddened by the way the our democratic leaders have behaved over the past year, now that they have the power. I would be livid if the roles were reversed and Republicans acted this way. I think all of you would be too! I would've liked to see democrats set a good example and at least include Republicans in the talks from the beginning. I see no reason to have excluded them except that being the underdogs they had no power so they were an easy target. Republicans (and conservative independents) do represent at least half of our country after all (regardless of whether you want to admit it or not).
11:50 PM on 03/21/2010
"It is not fair to ask of others what you are not willing to do yourself" - Eleanor Roosevelt

"A man never discloses his own character so clearly as when he describes another's" - Jean Paul
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Rogan
11:18 AM on 03/22/2010
Very good response. I thought I had something to add, then read both your quotes and the comment you responded to again, and realized, no, I have nothing to add.
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FogBelter
Illegitimis non carborundum
04:34 PM on 03/21/2010
So, you long for a world of homogeneous opinion?

And I still don't believe that a corporate welfare package is Health Care Reform.
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dsws
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04:15 PM on 03/21/2010
We can have bipartisanship. We just need to get rid of the Republican party, and it will happen inevitably.
04:00 PM on 03/21/2010
Civil discourse becomes impossible when either side is not speaking to the other, but speaking to an audience, jockeying for position by mischaracterizing the other, and playing to the fears of the crowd. The party most able to gin up the fears of that audiience is all too often considered the winner, when in reality everyone present loses, both the speakers, and the audience.

Democrats, as a party, are a little too earnest, a little too eager to "work together" and do things like that. They don't necessarily even distinguish between themselves and other parties, because they're accustomed to disagreement both within their party and without. They actually talk to Republicans, Independents, Green Party members, and Libertarians, because their are, in many ways, just as ideaslistic and pie-in-the-sky-oriented as ever.

But let's face it. The GOP has not been speaking back, directly to Democrats, with any degree of honesty and recognition of the things which the respective parties have in common. The GOP is absolutely playing for keeps -- not for marginal control, but for absolute domination. Not for cooperation, but for annihilation. And not for truth or honesty, because all that matters is winning.

What's remarkable is what poor sports they are. They are the worst losers seen in centuries.

Here's hoping they get a little more practice at bearing it with good grace. I'm not sure they will, since they've successfully frightened the low-info voter, but I sincerely hope so.
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TooLooze
Someone should do something about all the problems
05:42 PM on 03/21/2010
Bingo!
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WilliamBradford
Veritas vos Liberabit
12:59 PM on 03/22/2010
It is laughable to describe the current ruling Democrats as "earnest", or to ascribe words like "honesty" or "truth" to the monstrosity that escaped the Congress yesterday.

This piece of legislation only passed because of a long list of lies and manipulations. It does not lower costs. It does raise taxes. It will increase the deficit. It does cut Medicare. And it will create a bureaucracy designed to choke insurance companies out of business and grow into a single-payer system in the near future. And the "leaders" of our country are lying about each of these facts today, in triumphant cadence.

To address the author's point, I would have to regretfully say, no, it is unlikely that we will "just get along" anytime soon. There is a fundamental disagreement about the purpose of government and the fiscal irresponsibility. On both these issues, we have gone beyond any "gray areas" that can be negotiated. Of course, legislation like this will bring some benefits to some people. But, it's impact on our suicidal path toward national bankruptcy will quickly show the cost was not worth it.
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Tekkdude
Battling Republican lies one post at a time.
04:00 PM on 03/22/2010
It continues to be remarkable to me how a party that fought two wars "off the books" hiding their true cost by not including them in the budget, passed tax cuts for the top 20% of earners in the country without offsetting those cuts with increased revenues from somewhere else, and created an $800 billion unfunded entitlement program called Medicare Part D can say with a straight face that democrats are destroying the budget with a health care reform package that has been scored by the CBO as cutting the deficit. The Republican party had control for 8 years and turned budget surpluses into the largest deficits in history. In 8 years, the deficits run up by GWB were equal to all of the deficits of all of the Presidents before him. Yet no one seemed to care about that. The administration of GWB turned its back on regulation (admittedly with the help of the Clinton administration before him) and allowed Wall Street to drive the economy off a cliff. But to Republicans, it is always a Democrats' fault and always Democratic spending that they must be concerned about. What a hypocritical and self serving party you belong to!
03:47 PM on 03/21/2010
To bridge the ideological divide, it will first be necessary to create it. What we have is a really a theatrical construct designed to distract and discourage active participation in democracy.

When an election sweep takes place here, we are really only changing the ideological decor.

One "side" is openly serving vested commercial interests at the expense of all else, the "other" is pretending to serve a broader constituency.
03:15 PM on 03/21/2010
The Audacity of Hope, in it's very title, fans the flames of partisanship by implying that nobody else has any hope and futhermore they are attacking hope in some manner. Bipartisanship, while being a positive state, cannot be easilly provided by one man or one party. The cost of granting bipartisanship on a single side is to remove yourself from the debate and to let the other side control everything.
If one side refuses to compromise on any issue, then the only way to gain consensus is for the other side to give in on every issue.
I'd like to hope that this country will bridge the ideological divide and become more bipartisan again, but it is very difficult to achieve, and will require that everybody work together to achieve it.
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TRex86
Enjoying life in West Ohio
12:35 PM on 03/22/2010
The Republicans mounted a Kamikaze attack on health reform, rich with demagoguery and hysterical fear-mongering. It wasn't a Steve martin skit (or Emily Latella) where they can finish with, "Never mind." Why would anyone have anything further to do with them? I'm the forgiving type and I socialize with Republicans, but as a political party they have demonstrated no capacity for constructive discourse.

To anyone touting a "return to bipartisanship" I suggest revisiting the allegory of the scorpion and the frog.
08:41 PM on 03/22/2010
Some republicans did that. Others were much more reasonable and polite. By using a broad term, like republican, and then painting them all as demagogues, that deepens the divide between those that might wish to try to work together. If one side, alone, wants to achieve bipartisan, they most be polite and respectful at all times, while sticking to their principles. Respecting the other side will not necessarily result in any compromise or bipartisan ideals, but disrespecting the other side will almost always result in the divide deepening.
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Tekkdude
Battling Republican lies one post at a time.
04:05 PM on 03/22/2010
First of all, bipartisanship is not "removing yourself from the debate and letting the other side control everything". Neither is it true that " If one side refuses to compromise on any issue, then the only way to gain consensus is for the other side to give in on every issue." The point of bipartisanship is that both sides give a little and move toward each other achieving a balance of both extreme viewpoints. However, when one side refuses to give in at all unless all of their talking points are used as the basis for the discussion there is no chance for bipartisanship and compromise. It prevents achieving any kind of reasonable or debated legislation and leads directly to the need for the other side to do what the Democrats did. The debate had to move forward with or without both sides.
08:35 PM on 03/22/2010
My point was that the cost of one sided bipartisanship is to give in on every issue. Since that is not acceptable to most of us, including myself, the only way to achieve bipartisanship is for both sides to work towards it. It cannot be achieved by one side without unacceptable capitulation on every point of contention.
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whoknew42
In bad times: the good go crazy, the smart go bad
02:46 PM on 03/21/2010
My sentiments exactly
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ClaudiaR
03:03 PM on 03/21/2010
thanks for writing, and of course for reading ;) CR