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Cliff Schecter

Cliff Schecter

Posted: February 14, 2011 05:05 PM

More guns less crime. It is the mantra of those who don't really believe in such wacky things as statistics, empirical evidence and common sense.

Some because they have blissfully become the NRA's ever-willing Manchurian Candidates, prisoners of ideology, where facts are uninvited house guests and certainty is superior to truth. Others, because they are known as the NRA leadership, made up of arms dealers and those, like NRA head honcho Wayne LaPierre, who gets paid $1.281 million per year by arms dealers. Not gonna be much wiggle room at that table at The Palm.

But here's the thing. As some visitors to the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, made clear this weekend, they're not all that comfortable with more guns when the guns are going to surround them. See, then it's not safer to have more guns, apparently. Only when they're at your university or openly carried in a shopping mall your kids go to.

When former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is asked about it, he freaks out and sends in the goons. Ditto, Senator and potential presidential candidate John Thune, whose big-government Thune Amendment lost on the Senate floor last year, a defeat for the NRA. Perhaps it was because not every state thinks alcoholics, the blind and domestic abusers should have concealed carry rights. But hey, I'm just guessing here.

Wayne LaPierre just throws the ball in his underling's court, not able to answer for himself it seems. You'd think $1.281 million might buy the ability to articulate a position on things. But then again it's hard to articulate why his organization would sponsor CPAC at a venue that doesn't allow guns if it's so much more dangerous, or why they'd do the same with the NRA's very own convention in 2010.

Someday I'm sure we'll hear from Mr. LaPierre's people-powered wisdom on these matters, but in the meantime, let's go to the videotape, why don't we:

Donald Rumsfeld - The Freak Out

John Thune - The Bob & Weave

Wayne LaPierre - The Mix Up

 

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12:02 AM on 02/27/2011
I guess that Cliff doesn't realize that the convention halls rented out are private property and thus subject to the policies of the owners.

The last NRA convention hosted 70,000 visitors, which requires a bit of space. Gun control groups do not have this problem so I can understand the ignorance.
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11:28 PM on 02/26/2011
"like NRA head honcho Wayne LaPierre, who gets paid $1.281 million per year by arms dealers."

Incorrect.

4.3 million dues paying members pay his salary.
02:52 PM on 02/15/2011
This brought up some very interesting questions. I hope this story doesn't just fall through the cracks before we get a response from these guys. I'm trying to think of a way they can weasel out of this, but I can't see it.
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SouPro
Southern. Progressive.
02:49 PM on 02/15/2011
I don't think I have ever heard of a convention center that allows for firearms to be carried inside. Is there a convention center of a suitable size for CPAC that does allow people to carry? Otherwise it's hard to fault them for something outside of their control.
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Jim Pasterczyk
Banned!
12:57 PM on 02/15/2011
Just your typical conservative double standard again. Move along folks, nothing new to see here.
Javalation
Laughing in a Daydream
06:55 PM on 02/14/2011
It is an interesting issue. They talk, in theory, about how everyone is so much safer when everyone can carry a concealed weapon, yet they avoid any environment where they would be required to be exposed to that very environment. One might even consider them hypocrites.
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11:24 PM on 02/26/2011
Nice strawman.
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Gun Banner Too
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06:30 PM on 02/14/2011
All gun owners are GOP and NRA members and are compensating for some wink, wink, shortcoming. Don't take my word for it. This information has been confirmed in polling data.
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schotts
Work hard, play harder
09:24 PM on 02/14/2011
Funny, I know several card carrying Democrates that are staunch gun rights advocates.

Compensating for a shortcoming. Really? This immature and pointless argument again? Gun banner, quick, your mom is calling you.
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BBackSoon
Hello, I must be going.
12:19 PM on 02/15/2011
Nope, I don't buy it.

I have guns, I am not a Repub and will NEVER join the NRA.

But then again I think there are some people that should not have guns, I think easily accessible guns in the heat of the moment can be a problem and don't think anyone really needs weapons that can shoot 50+ rounds a minute.
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rikilii
Hush, was the first word you were taught...
07:06 PM on 02/16/2011
Umm, a revolver can shoot 50+ rounds a minute.
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BeckyJustice
Stop the frickin Fracking. NOW!
05:49 PM on 02/14/2011
"But here's the thing. As some visitors to the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, made clear this weekend, they're not all that comfortable with more guns when the guns are going to surround them."

I wonder if it's because they suddenly realized that what happened in Egypt could happen here, and they would be the target... Like some of their constituents might wake up and realize they had been bamboozeled by them?
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BlackJAC
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06:14 PM on 02/14/2011
Don't forget that after Gabby Giffords got shot the gops were the ones coming up with the really demented ideas like No Guns Within 1000 Feet Of A Politician and Put Bulletproof Plexiglass Around The Viewing Galleries In Congress.
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Jim bob
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10:28 AM on 02/15/2011
It's the same old impossible demand. Give me liberty but give me security, and if I have to choose, just give me the security. Or at least tell me I'm safe, I'm good with that, and in return for that, you get to destroy my liberty. I'm betting they know how cynical and useless this adventure is.
05:30 PM on 02/14/2011
I can see where people buy into the idea that more guns equal less crime since there are more guns in the hands of more citizens than ever before and the crime rate continues to drop. We do know that correlation does not imply causation but, it seems that more guns aren’t creating more crime either. Anyway, the rest of your article shows that public officials and personalities don’t always answer every question thrown at them. No surprise there. You didn’t offer any solutions that would reduce violence and gun violence that would also keep within the policy framework of The Peoples Fundamental Right to Keep and Bear Arms. No surprise there as well…