iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Featuring fresh takes and real-time analysis from HuffPost's signature lineup of contributors
Coleen Rowley

GET UPDATES FROM Coleen Rowley
 

Obama Should Veto Empire Over Republic

Posted: 12/03/11 11:50 AM ET

The political, military industrial, corporate class in Washington DC continues to re-make our constitutional republic into a powerful, unaccountable military empire. Yesterday the U.S. Senate voted 93 to 7 to pass the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2012 which allows the military to operate domestically within the borders of the United States and to possibly (or most probably) detain U.S. citizens without trial. Forget that the ACLU called it "an historic threat to American citizens", this bill is so dangerous not only to our rights but to our country's security that it was criticized by the Directors of the FBI, the CIA, the National Intelligence Director and the U.S. Defense Secretary! For the first time in our history, if this Act is not vetoed, American citizens may not be guaranteed their Article III right to trial.

The government would be able to decide who gets an old fashioned trial (along with right to attorney and right against self-incrimination) and who gets detained without due process and put into a modern legal limbo. Does anyone remember that none of the first thousand people the FBI rounded up after 9-11, and which were imprisoned for several months (some brutalized) were ever charged with terrorism? Does anyone remember that hundreds of the Gitmo detainees who were handed over to their American military captors in exchange for monetary bounties were found, after years of imprisonment, to have no connection to terrorism?

When in doubt about a case, what do you think the government will again do? Does it prefer to submit its evidence to a jury's scrutiny and its witnesses to the trouble of being cross-examined in court by a defense attorney or would it be easier to have no questions asked and dump the accused into detainee prison without rights? I think we already know that answer from the nearly ten years of experience at Guantanamo.

Senator Lindsey Graham declared that suspected citizens open themselves up "to imprisonment and death". "And when they say, 'I want my lawyer,' you tell them: 'Shut up. You don't get a lawyer.'"

Of course, the politicians will say we are just talking about a few cases. But in fact the sky's probably the limit given the current legal ambiguity in the Patriot Act expansion of "material support for terrorism" to now include humanitarian aid and even mere advocacy speech without any need to prove an accused person intended to support any kind of terrorist violence. The Department of Justice has been currently using this ambiguity for over a year to investigate twenty three American citizens who are anti-war activists in Chicago and Minneapolis. Additionally, the "war on terror" will undoubtedly expand even more when it is de-linked from 9-11 -- see "The War on Terrorism Congress Never Declared -- But Soon Might" by Stephen I. Vladeck, a law professor, expert on these issues and associate dean for scholarship at American University Washington College of Law:

... an individual may be detained for providing "direct support" (which, in the government's view, may be nothing more than minor financial or logistical assistance) in aid of "associated forces" that are "engaged in hostilities against ... coalition partners." Thus, the NDAA effectively authorizes the military detention of any individual who provides such assistance anywhere in the world to any group engaged in hostilities against any of our coalition partners, whether or not the United States is in any way involved in (or even affected by) that particular conflict.

Given this expansion of the 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force contained in the 2012 NDAA to encompass undefined "associated forces", we could witness the US government targeting a large range of political dissidents, human rights activists, humanitarians, and maybe even "occupiers".

The NDAA is deliberately confusing for political purposes but much is at stake. Obama's determination as to whether or not he will veto the problematic 2012 war funding bill will determine how Benjamin Franklin's glib response to the woman waiting outside the Constitutional Convention is ultimately answered. Franklin and other founding fathers had created "a Republic, Madam, if you can keep it". But a lawless Military Empire could now await where U.S. "emergency war powers" trump the Constitution, where the Commander in Chief becomes king for a term(s), the military enters into police state actions in violation of 130 years of Posse Comitatus law, and the Constitution becomes as quaint as the Geneva Conventions were for Alberto Gonzalez and the Bush Administration.

Corrupted, compliant politicians have already allowed their fears to get the better of them by going along with pre-emptive war in violation of the Nuremberg Principles and international law and torturing in violation of the Geneva Conventions and the Convention against Torture. So why should they also not go for detaining American citizens without constitutional rights or trial?

Tell your congresspersons and senators who passed the NDAA they should be ashamed and tell the president (also via Senator Mark Udall's petition) he needs to keep his promise to veto this Act in order to save our Republic.

 
The political, military industrial, corporate class in Washington DC continues to re-make our constitutional republic into a powerful, unaccountable military empire. Yesterday the U.S. Senate voted 9...
The political, military industrial, corporate class in Washington DC continues to re-make our constitutional republic into a powerful, unaccountable military empire. Yesterday the U.S. Senate voted 9...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 417
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Highlights
Bloggers
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (10 total)
05:13 AM on 01/03/2012
Ron Paul is the only candidate running that opposes this horrible law. Google Bradley Manning he is currently being indefinitely detained. He is not only an American but he is also a US soldier.
02:35 PM on 12/23/2011
You folks seem to be under the delision that you will be a citizen when the hammer comes down on you. We already have laws in place that allow folks to charge you with treason, and if convicted, you have your citizenship stripped away, allowing the full breadth of NDAA 2012 to come down on. Of course, stripping away someone's citizenship has often been a very difficult task, b/c the judicial system doesn't take it lightly ... right now. But, all of this basically sets up a very bad system of abuse that some future entities could abuse like crazy during "times of duress". We're already seeing the Dept of Homeland Security expand its role from anti-terrorism to doing stings on DVD pirates. When ambiguous rules are made, they will eventually be used in ways folks didn't intend.
08:10 PM on 12/14/2011
Everyone seems to think that Before this law, the government never took someone away and made them dissapear forever....has happened before, and will continue happening people. When "National Security" is at stake, there are NO LIMITS, period. This "Citizen Imprisonment Act" as some of you are calling it is actually nothing more than a legalization of what has happened (and will continue to happen regardless of any laws) already....In today's world, even "US Citizens" can and ARE terrorists people...this law only gives a somewhat legal standing to take those "Fake" US Citizens that stood up and took an oath of allegiance to the USA (Foreigners before becoming US Citizens) to justice.
09:06 PM on 12/21/2011
Perhaps the government did (and does) disappear people. Should we simply ignore the gradual constructi­on of a legal structure that would clothe that kind of thing in legal legitimacy­? Should we permit indefinite detention of *any* American citizen without a trial? If a citizen is guilty of waging war against the US that's treason. Let the government follow the law and convict that person of treason. Allowing the executive to short circuit the Constituti­on - particularly in the case of citizens - to more convenient­ly deal with the terror threat sets a dangerous precedent for the future. I don't think this NDAA amounts to the finishing piece of a police state, but it certainly moves us further in that direction.
04:56 PM on 12/11/2011
Dear Congress,

It has come to my attention that you have passed a law that violates the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. The revocation of due process under National Defense Authorization Act 1031 aka "Citizen Imprisonment Act" will not fall on deaf ears.

The general awakening that is occurring globally is representative of a critical mass that has been forming within the citizenry of the world. The demand for accountability within the banking system for the global collapse of currencies will inevitably lead to a spotlight on the leadership and decisions that fostered the collapse.

Violating the constitution is not becoming of a representative of the people, and history will not look kindly on your actions.

What happens when the party is over and the people demand accountability from their leaders?

As a constituent of the United States, in-light of the growing public discontent, I implore you to reconsider your public position on National Defense Authorization Act 1031. You may not win political favor for supporting the bill of rights, but you will be recognized by the public and in history, as the voice of opposition to laws meant to silent the brused an beaten public.

When in doubt, you can always fall back on integrity.

Sincerely,
Citizen of the world
04:18 PM on 12/09/2011
I read 1031/1032 and I didn't understand where it said American citizens could be held without a trial. 1032 says specifically that it will not extend to Americans or legal aliens. I'm not defending it, I am just trying to understand the language and information so I can further spread the message. Any response?
04:57 PM on 12/09/2011
I don't believe that it says specifically that american citizens can be held without trial it just doesn't exempt them.. well 1031 doesn't and 1032 does exempt them, however, the Obama administration has said they want 1032 removed. Ineteresting huh?
09:26 PM on 12/12/2011
1032 says the REQUIREMENT to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States. in legalese that means that they still are ALLOWED to detain you, they just don't HAVE to do so.
02:50 PM on 12/16/2011
Whether or not it applies to American citizens is a moot point. It shouldn't apply to anyone, American or not. Foreigners deserve a fair trial too. Otherwise how can we expect foreign countries to give our citizens fair trials?
03:23 PM on 12/16/2011
I agree, it shouldn't apply to anyone, American or not.
01:22 AM on 12/08/2011
Please help prevent NDAA 1031 Citizen Imprisonment law from being enacted by signing the petition at http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-ndaa-section-1031-citizen-imprisonment-law-before-dec-9 Then please spread the word about the petition! There's very little time left to stop this,,,it's due to be signed within a matter of days, as early as Friday. Congress could change it before recessing with enough pressure. Jon Stewart finally ended the virtual major media blackout on this issue tonight in his leading segment on the Daily Show which could help. Please tweet the petition.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ShellinayaArt
09:39 PM on 12/06/2011
Everyone needs to hear Colleen Rowley's interview on the Peter B Collins podcast, December 5th, where she talks about this at length.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
politicky
just follow the $$$
06:58 PM on 12/05/2011
Many posting here seem to think that, if this becomes law, the Supreme Court will automatically step in and declare it to be unconstitutional. That is not the case. First someone must have standing to bring a Constitutional challenge to the law. In other words, they have to have had their rights violated by a governmental entity under law. Ordinarily, the case originates in the lower courts and by the appeal or review process works it way up to the Supreme Court...ONLY if they decide to hear it. If not..then you have run out of gas. OR, the Court may allow your case to originate in the Supreme Court if it is of sufficient magnitude and this law would probably fit that category. But if they rule against you...that's it.
Usually this process takes YEARS out of your life (especially if you are incarcerated) and, meanwhile, you are dragged through the mud, the blood and shed many tears. By the time the Supremes uphold your "rights" (assuming they do) your life is a wreck...you owe your soul to your attorneys...and your wife and kids probably left you. Oh, and one more thing...don't automatically think that the government will be honest. governmental entities are vipers when it comes to protecting their power. Oh, and one last thing...this is the Supreme Court that ruled on "Citizens United." what do you think your chances would be....
08:02 AM on 12/06/2011
The problem with this law is you wont have any right to challenge the law to the supreme court they took that away when they falsley arrested you and are going to now torture and exicute you dispicable justice disgusting.
08:16 PM on 12/06/2011
Yes...that's right. If you are detained, under this law that the bill contemplates...the first problem you would have is NO access to ANY court in the first instance.
I was just describing the NORMAL path to a Constitution challenge for a generic violation of rights.
It appears that this bill may create a totally different animal.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ShellinayaArt
09:40 PM on 12/06/2011
Another problem with this law is that it will say a "suspect" can't even hire a lawyer to defend themself.
10:51 AM on 12/15/2011
Yea, that's why the "healthcare" law is going to the Supreme Court, because the individual mandate is infringing one someone's rights. Oh wait, no it's not because that piece of the bill hasn't been implemented yet.

You can file a case to the lower courts as a third party, btw. Just the all the AGs suing the "Healthcare" law.
06:01 PM on 12/05/2011
It seems the politicians who voted for this law are in direct violation of any recognized interpretation of the U. S. Constitution and thereby our long-established and treasured democratic freedoms; are now condoning the subversive destruction of our representative democracy; are clearly and openly taking action in direct support of forceful authoritarian wresting of control from the people; and thereby represent the clearest and most present threat to the existence of the government of the United States of America. They should immediately be arrested and prosecuted as such by the rational and peaceful citizenry of this our beloved country.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
dblshell
St. George to the crazies
04:34 PM on 12/05/2011
If Ms. Rowley's recommendations were heeded, it is highly unlikely we would have experienced all that we did on 9/11. That said, we would not have launched the two wars and even more tragedy could have been avoided.

Ms. Rowley was our modern day Paul Revere but the bureaucrats in Washington failed in their duty and ignored her warnings.

She is billed here as a 'Former FBI Special Agent'. This, she may well be. But Special Agent Rowley is also a would be American hero and an icon standing to warn us against future complacency.

If she says to remain vigilant in defense of our constitutional freedoms, I for one will take her recommendations very seriously.

Thank you for your service, Ms. Rowley.
photo
HUFFPOST BLOGGER
Coleen Rowley
retired FBI agent/legal counsel
02:49 PM on 12/05/2011
Have you called your President, congressperson and Senators yet?!
10:53 AM on 12/08/2011
Why? My senators signature is already on it. The president thinks it doesn't go far enough and the supreme court created a chicken and egg argument that makes this behavior extremely difficult to challenge.
We need a constitutional convention not a law. May Tyr (the god of justice) provide one.
11:37 AM on 12/08/2011
Be careful, or you might be put on the list.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
gevan
big dubya
01:54 PM on 12/05/2011
Not sure if the Senate can deal away contitutional rights in any legislation. It would make an interesting court case anyway.
photo
robadeaux
Your labels have expired....
07:03 PM on 12/05/2011
An interesting court case? Like it would ever get to a bought and paid for kangaroo court in the US.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
gevan
big dubya
08:25 PM on 12/05/2011
Like ex parte Milligan, it should get put to the Supremes. I'm not sure if they could ignore the implications even with their penchant for squashing the citizenry.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
deminmo
just looking for answers
01:40 PM on 12/05/2011
President Obama continued the "state of emergency" that Bush put into
place after 9/11, into 2012. Why? The Patriot Act, FISA and others all
took rights away from US citizens based on 9/11. If President Obama
signs this into law it will give him and other future Presidents a lot more
power to declare who constitutes a threat.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Roy Merritt old car guy
Loves Nostalgia Dragsters
01:17 PM on 12/05/2011
The wealthy are getting scared and they want the Army to protect them from the people when they come for them. You will be called a terrorist when you want to eat and work.
01:04 PM on 12/05/2011
Law doesn't apply to citizens...

Section 1032, subsection B, part 1 (on page 362):
"The requirement to detain a person under military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States."
01:48 PM on 12/05/2011
That makes sense. Congress couldn't knowingly remove Constitutional rights as they exist in the Bill of Rights.
photo
HUFFPOST BLOGGER
Coleen Rowley
retired FBI agent/legal counsel
02:54 PM on 12/05/2011
Remember I said it's deliberately confusing. The "requirement" doesn't apply but the President is permitted to detain a US citizen under military custody is how most experts are interpreting the Bill.
03:44 PM on 12/05/2011
There's nothing confusing about it, all you have to do is read the bill and it's related legislation.

Currently terror suspects can either be held by the military or civilian agencies according to the Authorized Use of Military Force signed into law back in 2001. THIS bill (referring to the NDAA FY 2012 being discussed) requires that non-citizen non-legal resident aliens be held by the military, instead of leaving custody up for grabs. THAT'S why you have the White House and civilian agencies upset over the bill. They don't like having their hands tied in having to deal with the military in detaining the dangerous individuals targeted by the bill (and rightly so, civilian-military cooperation is not always smooth).

I'd love to see some of these "experts" you're talking about. They obviously have grossly misinterpreted, misrepresented, or confused a very benign piece of legislation. My wager is that those "experts" are journalists, analysts, and pundits looking to make a mountain out of a molehill to enhance their own name or further their own cause.

If you don't like the detainment clause, you're gonna have to take your fight back 10 years and fix it at the AUMF (PL107-40). Good news, though. That document's only about a page.