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imonlyhereforthelaughs
Politicians...they ruin everything.
03:10 PM on 10/27/2011
And how do you patent something that someone else has already been doing?
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tumbler snapper
Lawyer, engineer, author, adventurer
04:58 PM on 10/27/2011
There was no written prior art. The "doing" is not admissible.
imonlyhereforthelaughs
Politicians...they ruin everything.
03:09 PM on 10/27/2011
Are they going to sue apple growers and apple product manufacturers as well?

Jobs is dead, Apple, Get over yourself already.
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Mister Grumpy
An Angry American
03:33 PM on 10/27/2011
Seems like it's time to disband the patent office......... it's obvious they don't know what they are doing.........
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Curtis inSF
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01:11 PM on 10/27/2011
this is on par with patenting "pushing a button to make a selection" Absurd.
05:40 PM on 10/27/2011
Ala "one click" ordering by Amazon back a decade or so...
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10:25 PM on 10/27/2011
Which was upheld, by the way. Apple had to license that from Amazon to use it.
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JFetch
Don't make up facts to support your ideals.
12:35 PM on 10/27/2011
Software patents need to abolished. It's ridiculous that you can patent the idea of moving a slider to unlock your phone.
02:44 PM on 10/27/2011
Except it's not really a "slider". It's a virtual slider, and that's an entirely different thing. (It's not really there.)
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tumbler snapper
Lawyer, engineer, author, adventurer
04:59 PM on 10/27/2011
Does that make a difference?
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JFetch
Don't make up facts to support your ideals.
09:50 PM on 10/27/2011
That makes it worse. You aren't getting a patent on a real thing, just an idea. Ideas should be shared. These broad software patents are making things more expensive for consumers, and take up too much of our court's time.
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sdavidweaver
10:24 AM on 10/27/2011
Apparently the standards for what constitutes a patent-able idea must be 'sliding'. I think I'll create my own patent and file it: "A particular way of rising from a bed upon awakening in the morning, associated with a certain way of sliding on a pair of slippers lying next to a footstool, accompanied by a standing up of an individual, followed by a particular way of then proceeding to the bathroom..."
09:18 AM on 10/27/2011
I think Apple paid Apple Corp $500 million. Peanuts now, really.
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12:22 AM on 10/27/2011
a patent is award to whoever applied and was granted it first. if someone else had "slide to unlock" and didn't patent it before, then too bad.
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NerdyStudent
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01:17 AM on 10/27/2011
That's nice, but it won't stand up in court.
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01:45 AM on 10/27/2011
sorry, but that's the process. learn something about patents before you speak. i've been involved in quite a bit of litigation and settlements regarding IP law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_infringement_under_United_States_law

http://www.uspto.gov/patents/process/index.jsp

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/consolidated_laws.pdf

the patent holder has a right to sue for infringement, that's how patents are enforced. whether or not the courts award damages is a different subject entirely.
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tumbler snapper
Lawyer, engineer, author, adventurer
03:51 PM on 10/27/2011
Because you say so?
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JasonMcl
Hey a countdown clock. MannNnn that is trouble...
05:52 AM on 10/27/2011
Thank you for helping to explain why we need patent reform so badly.
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07:07 AM on 10/27/2011
why exactly do we need patent reform? so apple won't ruin the world as we know it?

do you realize that the new patent reforms that congress just passed last month include changing current laws to "FIRST TO FILE", thus re-inforcing apple's position in this case?

that means that it won't matter who "invented" something first, it will be based on who filed it first. like web domains.

and also the new patent laws will prevent patent trolling by companies who don't even make products (like people who buy up domain names), but it won't affect companies who buy big suites of patents (like google just did with it's motorola acquisition).
12:07 AM on 10/27/2011
Slide lock is sooo 2008, facial recognition unlock is the in and to my knowledge nobody has that on lock down.
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Peter Phan
03:27 AM on 10/27/2011
Samsung did a demo of it with one of their latest phones. It didn't work! LOL. Plus, even under best-case scenario of it working, there's a delay as it "reads" your face to determine if it should unlock the phone. The feature basically sucks.
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No Yards
I never said most of the things I said.
10:15 AM on 10/27/2011
I personally don't see me using either technology until they become a lot better ... for example I don't need to make simple appointments on my cal ... I usually make meeting appointments that involve many people, over many geo locations and in several timezones, so I would need Siri to be able to know all this information and set up not only the most convenient time across several time-zones, but to book meeting rooms, and reserve conference call lines, teleconference equipment, etc .. which it can't do.

For personal meetings, like doctors appointments, etc, I don't see these kinds of appointments happening enough to make me freak out over this kind of feature ... I'm usually on the phone anyway making that doctor/dentist appointment, so it's easier to just open my laptop or tablet, and while looking at my existing schedule enter the appointment in Google cal as I schedule it on the phone with the receptionist as she offers dates and I see if those dates are convenient for my schedule.

When I am running (or walking in my case,) I have never found myself in a situation where would need to book or change an appointment .. might happen some time, but since it's unlikely that the change to my cal will be reflected on the cal of the other people involved unless maybe we are all using some kind of Apple/Siri compatible shared calendar, I don't see the big convenience.
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JohnTheMac
Now, why don't you go home and get your shine box?
09:48 PM on 10/27/2011
How do you use it at night, in the dark?
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mjredder
My personal data = No Sale
10:36 PM on 10/26/2011
Also, why couldn't Android phone makers just license the slide-to-unlock patent from NeoNode to continue operating as-is in Europe?
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mjredder
My personal data = No Sale
10:35 PM on 10/26/2011
Slide-to-unlock becomes tap-to-unlock on Android. Easy as apple pie. :-P

And the Apfelkind lawsuit is just petty. Apple has become the giant evil corporation it started out to not be, and the irony is that the fanboys who railed against Microsoft for this kind of corporate bullying will defend Apple doing it to their last breath. iSeehypocrites.
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Conservative666
Honest discussions only
01:17 AM on 10/27/2011
Apple corp (Beatles) has sued Apple Computer many times over the name and icons of Apple. Apple has to constantly "defend" it or it will control of it.
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Peter Phan
03:34 AM on 10/27/2011
The problem with tap-to-unlock is that it can accidentally happen in your pocket or purse. The whole point of slide-to-unlock is that it's something that can't happen accidentally in your pocket, which is exactly what Steve Jobs says in the video. And that's the brilliance of slide-to-unlock. It's definitely *not* a petty feature. It's definitely something worth patenting and protecting.
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BeautifulOnDaOutside
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04:00 PM on 10/27/2011
It's trivial and obvious. Should not be eligible for patent protection.
10:24 PM on 10/26/2011
If you know patent laws, you'll know that Apple is virtually required to sue, even in cases in which it might seem like a major stretch to draw similarities between two seemingly disparate items.
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Bob Metcalfe
Caught at 1st. slip trying to cut
11:03 PM on 10/26/2011
Yes but patent laws have become ridiculously slack in allowing all sorts of rubbish to be patented in the US.
10:33 AM on 10/27/2011
Patent laws seem to have be a problem whenever Apple try to reinforce them. Never when somebody else goes after Apple. Go figure.
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Artamentous
Workplace Democracy!
12:12 AM on 10/27/2011
Yah the problem is that patents like this exist. This stuff stifles innovation, and is quite outrageous.
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01:47 AM on 10/27/2011
patents don't stifle innovation. they act as a registration of invention/innovation. it's like saying voter registration restricts free speech.

the only people who have anything to worry about are people who didn't patent something that they "invented".
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Jennifer
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10:20 PM on 10/26/2011
Next they will patent door knobs. What the heck.
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Onutz
11:18 PM on 10/26/2011
((Next they will patent door knobs. What the heck.))

If you ever develop the capacity to invent something, please don't bother to patent it. Apparently logic is over-rated.
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NerdyStudent
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01:19 AM on 10/27/2011
Says the fanboy who trolls the android stories.
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10:13 PM on 10/26/2011
Apple needs to sue and become a patent troll because it's hitting a technological brick wall as its competitors are surpassing it. Apple's fat margins on its phones are shrinking because it has to sell cheaper models to compete.
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a gringo
Revisionist history is easier than research
01:58 AM on 10/27/2011
I think the 1 million iPhone 4s starting at 200.00 each with two year contract on ATT begs to differ. They offer a year old model 4 at 100.00 and 3GS which is over 2 years old now for free at ATT. They do this to dump old stock until the backlog is gone then its over. I worked with ATT during the 4 launch, its the same pattern as they did with the 4, 3gs and 3g.

And their margins arn't shrinking, their pricing to the 3 wireless retailers in the US has been the same for several years, the resellers take the hit in subsidizing the device. And one other point that shows your post is way off base, they just introduced a model with more memory for 300.00 on contract making it one of the highest priced contract handset in the US.

Better do some research before you type out rubbish. Or go back to your Android fanboy forum.
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03:02 AM on 10/27/2011
You live in an alternate universe Fanboy and you are the one that has no clue as to what you are talking about....

http://www.theage.com.au/business/shrinking-margins-strike-apple-to-the-core-20101019-16shq.html
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03:59 AM on 10/27/2011
Also, wrong on your 2nd count...I'm no Android fanboy...You are totally clueless...haha
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Peter Phan
03:37 AM on 10/27/2011
Uh...have you seen the sales numbers for the iPad and iPhone 4S?!?! No other company has surpassed those numbers. Not even close.
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No Yards
I never said most of the things I said.
09:17 AM on 10/27/2011
Android activates 500,000 plus phones a day, so during that 10 day period where Apple had the 4S on pre-order and then had their 4 million sold phone weekend, 5 million Android phones were activated.

Just a couple of days ago the WSJ announced that Samsung had overtaken Apple in smart phone sales, and also on that day it was announced that downloads of Android apps had blew past App Store downloads.

I'd call that "getting close" (well, I'd call it more than that, but let's be safe and just say "getting close".)
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fmarasajr
conducting a battle of wits with unarmed people.
10:02 PM on 10/26/2011
why didnt the Beatles sue apple?
04:38 AM on 10/27/2011
They did, or at least their publisher did. Once in the early days, where apple computers settled for something like $80k and promised to not do anything with music. Once back in the early 90s when Apple computers first included a music playing program. A third time back when Apple got into the music game when they released the iPod and later opened the iTunes Music store.. At least those are the three times I am aware of..
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BeautifulOnDaOutside
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05:09 PM on 10/27/2011
They did. Several times, because Apple Computer kept violating their agreements.