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doriath22
Born-again Jacobin. Robespierre had the right idea
09:04 PM on 11/09/2011
No doubt the plan to add $0.15 to the price of a $40 tree will kill the industry.......if you live in Ron Paul's Objectivist fantasyland. Oh, those diabolical atheist muslim socialist nazi foreign-born community organizers, and their fiendish anti-American plots!
09:32 PM on 11/09/2011
15 cecnts today $5 .00 tax per tree next year!!
11:20 PM on 11/09/2011
It is "to support a new Federal program to improve the image and marketing of Christmas trees" why would it be $5 next year? Not that even that would make a huge difference..
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doriath22
Born-again Jacobin. Robespierre had the right idea
10:57 PM on 11/10/2011
Let's see, the charge was the idea of Christmas tree farmers, to fund an ad campaign encouraging people to buy actual trees instead of Chinese-made "permanent" trees........so it would go to $5.00 because?
08:56 PM on 11/09/2011
Only maroons are worried about x-mas, but why are we creating a special tax to fund tree promotion?
Does sound pretty stupid.
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JEP57
To the right of Genghis Khan
08:56 PM on 11/09/2011
So if Christmas tree sales are declining and the industry's image needs improving, I can well imagine that having to pay a tax on a Christmas tree will cut down on their sales even more. There are plenty of artificial trees that look very realistic and will last for years. Why is the answer to all our problems another tax? If this goes through it's going to backfire.
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Ann Thurlow
11:16 PM on 11/09/2011
Would 15 cents affect your choice when selecting between artificial and natural trees? Do you know anyone, or does anyone you know know anyone whose decision would be swayed by 15 cents?
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JEP57
To the right of Genghis Khan
12:38 PM on 11/10/2011
You're right. I misread it and thought it was 15%.
08:39 PM on 11/09/2011
Considering the astonishing success of the whale oil tax, the buggy whip tax, the poodle skirt tax, the flint knife tax, the zoot suit tax, the steam boat tax, the fedora tax, the phonograph tax, the white spats tax, the typewriter tax, the outhouse tax.....

Sarcasm fails me. If only the federal government can intervene for some special interest, all will be well.
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Var Enyo
Leading a troll to knowledge cannot make him think
08:26 PM on 11/09/2011
So a tax to support the farmers by paying a tax to put a pagan symbol in the home of the 'Christians' is destroying Christmas how?
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MyResponsibility
Action over hope
08:24 PM on 11/09/2011
This is nothing like the Pork Council, Got Milk, or the Beef Council programs. These programs are funded directly by its membership based on company size/revenue. The tree program is clearly a tax, it is assessed by a taxing authority. What business does the government have in promoting an industry that is free do do itself as many other industries have?
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treven
We are the music makers...
08:29 PM on 11/09/2011
The beef, milk and pork adds were by their respective counsels. The tree tax is to fund a new federal program. Big difference.
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MyResponsibility
Action over hope
08:37 PM on 11/09/2011
This is what I said.
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Dosadi
Political agnostic
08:30 PM on 11/09/2011
Uh, this is part of the MANDATE given by our Constitution. You use the word promote wisely. We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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treven
We are the music makers...
08:36 PM on 11/09/2011
How is a tree tax a constitutional mandate?
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MyResponsibility
Action over hope
08:46 PM on 11/09/2011
I'm pretty sure that this is not what is meant by promoting general welfare. This is legalized plunder. Sure, it's only 15 cents, but the tree farmers could simply create their own marketing council, control how funds are spent. This is government taxing, accumulating, and you think they'll pass on 100% of the funds? To WHOM will they release the funds? What DoAg strings will be attached to acces to the funds? I have zero problem with part of the cost of my tree going into an industry marketing fund that is controlled 100% by its membership. This smells, this is not the government's mandate.
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OurSaySo
Discern the very subtle things.
08:18 PM on 11/09/2011
No fly zones are next, so, you better be nice.
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Lulo
08:11 PM on 11/09/2011
I have never had a christmas tree at home. When you have kids, sure...why not? But when are single and your entire family lives elsewhere? Why? To amuse myself?

Nah. I'll take the money and have a nice stake somewhere
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SoCalNick
Former 99er, Business Owner, Proud Veteran 101st
08:12 PM on 11/09/2011
Jason..why do you title your story like you did. Your stock just dropped. Obama is NOT Anti Christmas as your title implies as to the reason he was attacked..they are trying and now with YOUR help , to PAINT him as Anti Christmas.

That is all
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treven
We are the music makers...
08:32 PM on 11/09/2011
The entire headline was disingenuous.
IndependentAndProud
Stop trying to change the subject!
10:01 PM on 11/09/2011
The headline is "Christmas Tree Tax: Obama Attacked For Agriculture Department Plan To Support Farmers". Where do you see any reference to Obama being anti-Christmas?
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clintnapril2
A clear conscience is a sign of a fuzzy memory.
07:58 PM on 11/09/2011
I would NEVER have a fake tree in my house. I like the smell of fresh pine. However, although this is not a tax, If the industry feels a need to raise revenues, they should do it in house. The guy at the corner lot doesn't need any commercials, and I am sure that people know what they are buying. Clint
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treven
We are the music makers...
08:32 PM on 11/09/2011
How is this not a tax? When the government says, "you will pay x amount on every product you sell", it's a tax.
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Cailleach Echo
07:42 PM on 11/09/2011
FACTS?

Repubs and teapartiers don't need no steenkin facts.

Not when its so much fun to spread lies about our president.
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treven
We are the music makers...
08:34 PM on 11/09/2011
Fact: every cut tree sold from a farm selling over 500 trees will have a $.15 tax per tree. Fact: that tax will be passed on to the consumer. Opinion: nobody will raise the price of their trees by $.15, so they'll just up it a dollar.
07:42 PM on 11/09/2011
Well, he is a Kenyan, Muslim, Socialist, Communist, Godless Christmas hater! (According to the tin foil hat crowd.)
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garboop2
07:38 PM on 11/09/2011
My husband and I have always had an artificial tree. However, for those who love the real deal; I read the article and it will only cost an additional 15 cents per tree (probably depending upon the size of the tree). Still, I doubt it would be a deal-breaker. If 15 cents helps the industry that much, hoorah!
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clintnapril2
A clear conscience is a sign of a fuzzy memory.
08:06 PM on 11/09/2011
15 cents doesn't actually help the local farmers. If is just a way for the people who don't actually grow the things to make some cash.
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BigRex
We need to talk about your TPS reports.
08:19 PM on 11/09/2011
the 15 cents is intended to pay for industry advertisement like the "beef its whats for dinner ads" so as to boost overall sales.
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treven
We are the music makers...
08:34 PM on 11/09/2011
It's only fifteen cents, 22 cents of which is for federal administrative costs.
07:37 PM on 11/09/2011
Christmas is a Corporate Holiday not religious holiday
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clintnapril2
A clear conscience is a sign of a fuzzy memory.
08:03 PM on 11/09/2011
Speak for yourself. I love having the whole family (15-20) over and cooking for them. We have a pink elephant drawing for the adults, and the kids get theirs of course. It is the best time of year, and I can only pray for snow. Clint. ( and yes, I do ALL the cooking )
07:35 PM on 11/09/2011
Oh for gosh sakes. People, he is the president of THESE United States. A country of diversity. He is not anti Christmas. A small tax is not going to kill Christmas. Geebus,...can these people be any more degenerative. Everyday brings another snake out of the ground. (pardon to snakes).
09:42 PM on 11/09/2011
golly!! Gees!