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03:50 PM on 11/15/2011
Attacks on workers won't even balance the budget. As government spending goes down, jobs and income go down and so does tax collection. Then the deficit grows.
To understand how to grow us out of the present depression, it is necessary to look at history. World War II brought us out of the first depression, but that was only because the country was working together and all the jobs created by the cost of the war went to Americans. Todays wars are almost completely outsourced to foreign nationals (because they work more cheaply than Americans). In addition, there is a constantly decreasing amount of government spending at home.
We need to turn that around. A government push for clean energy as a matter of national security (so that the oil-rich countries cannot turn our energy supplies off) and executed as the NASA space program was, would turn this country around.
It would be helpful if the government also promoted unions, and decent wages for American workers. It is American workers who spend their money locally.
03:44 PM on 11/15/2011
Sen. Harkin Democrats to do list there bucket list if you will .

One let the built in Sunset law on these now 11 year Bush tax cuts expire them . Save 5 trillion in 10 yrs.

Two negotiate the price of prescription drugs Part D anti American drug bill . Save 7 trillion in 10 yrs.

Three end these wars save a ton in live an limb an a ton in American tax payer money . See Sen. Harkin not hard and the right things to do ? No more war
03:30 PM on 11/15/2011
Sen. Harkin will borrowing 1000 billion dollars for a two year tax cut help anything ?
03:16 PM on 11/15/2011
When the NLRB stops playing political games (The Boeing plant drama is perfect example) and stops acting as a tool for unions and democrats that maybe it can get back to its main function. Till then, the Republicans should fight it at all costs. Propping up unions at the expense of other American workers is not its job, and quite frankly, is unamerican.
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bansidhe54
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02:40 PM on 11/15/2011
Senator Harkin mentions the "middle class," alluding to the claim that "unions created the middle class in America." Not true.Read wikipedia's article on labor unions for a good summary.Our earliest colonial "founding fathers" (early 1600's) intentionally left behind the British system of guilds that strangled commerce and free employment.They were individual, middle-class merchants who apprenticed, then practiced within guilds for most of their lives. These merchants sponsored poor but skilled labor to the colonies. Some laborers were younger sons of wealthy merchants, but the vast majority were not. That was the beginning of the American middle class. Their grandsons became the "founding fathers" who rebelled in the 1760's-1770's when the British reneged on earlier promises not to regulate colonial commerce--through taxation or other means. From humble beginnings as coopers, blacksmiths, farmers, with hard work and ingenuity they created demand for their labor, not expecting customer demand as a right, but acknowledging that customers would only buy if the product was right for a price they could afford. Recent Marxist theory (mid-1800's) attempts to erase this 250-year history and claims that "consumer demand" is the sole driver of the economy/job growth. Please consider how absurd this claim really is. Apply this Keynesian model to a small village or a large Soviet environment. All who've tried this model have failed--because the model was invented to support a political theory and has no linkage with real-world economics at all.
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HST
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04:11 PM on 11/15/2011
Some recentl history:

In 1935 the Fair Labor Standards Act enacted by Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a man reviled by the right, established a 40 hour week, an 8 hour day, overtime pay, the minimum wage and the elimination of child labor. Also in 1935 “Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance” was enacted but the title was changed to Social Security when unemployment insurance was added.

In 1945, the Veterans Administration bill provided college tuition aid, low cost home loans and medical care to WWII vets, who then created the baby boom, a major demographic and population increase, whose population we are now confronted with.

During the 40’s, 50’s, 60’s and 70’s, when the boomers were entering adulthood, we had a fairly stable economy driven by the consumption of cars, appliances and homes by the vets and then the boomers. The economy was stable but boring.

In the 50’s, Eisenhower began a large stimulus and deficit spending program that gave us jobs and the Interstate Highway system.

During that time our work clothes changed from dungarees, to blue collars, to pink collars to white collars. Manufacturing jobs were plentiful, wages were high due to unions, society was stable, it seems life was comfortable.

Then Reagan entered the scene and those that were against Social Security and the Fair Labor Standards Law in 1935, who reviled FDR, began their attacks that continue today along with declining wages and a steep rise in CEO salaries and corporate profits.
02:26 PM on 11/15/2011
"...the hardworking people at the Board are just doing their jobs. "

Does doing their job include preventing a company from opening a factory that will create thousands of high-paying jobs? If that is their job, then the NLRB has to go.
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WI Patriot
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02:19 PM on 11/15/2011
Sentaor,

Why is it when I hear "worker rights" from a politician, the rights and benefits are not for workers - but for public-sector unions, and the poltician is always from the same partisan political party?

Ironically, many Presidents have warned us against public sector unions - even the AFL-CIO warned us! FDR put it best:

"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=15445#axzz1ditogZgX

---And now even public sector workers are figuring this out:

As a public school teacher, I've thought critically about many unfair policies concerning the teachers union. Why is the Wisconsin Education Association Council granted special access to my paychecks through the school district, when other professional groups don't have this privilege? Why should payroll clerks in school district offices do the job of collecting union dues money and then cutting and sending the union their monthly checks (all on the taxpayers' dime)?
http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/130741333.html

If you want to convince me, and get my vote - you really need to have an honest discussion with the American people about public sector unions.........because neither the People, nor those in Public Service are buying what you say anymore.
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ByAndForThePeople
and corporations aren't people!
04:32 PM on 11/15/2011
In this comment, I will address only your penultimate paragraph, the complaint from the public school teacher. In every corporation where there is a union, there is also a Human Resources department; that HR department's employees deduct a number of things from employees' -- both union and non-union -- paychecks. Among those things are income tax withholding, payroll tax withholding, employees' share of health insurance, and the like. When the employee is a union employee, those deductions include union dues. The taxes are distributed to the appropriate level of government, the health insurance shares are distributed to the health insurance companies, and the union dues are distributed to the appropriate union. That is the normal state of affairs. And those HR clerks are paid by the employer in every case. Why should a teachers union be any different?
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WI Patriot
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05:48 PM on 11/15/2011
Great point but what happens when the Union stops representing Employees? You don't see this in the private sector.....

The Unique thing in Wisconsin was that the Teacher's Union owned the healthcare and pension corporation, WEA trust.

The Teacher's Union insisted the Public pay for their expensive healthcare corporation, adding to their political lobbying through dues(they have always been the top lobby) - to keep this rule in place........as if the Owners never existed.............The owners and even the employees were not even at the bargaining table........The Teachers were not being represented by the Union but could not leave or stop paying dues........and since it was State law local governments were powerless....

The Owners - the People, and the Employees, the teachers, wanted change but the Teacher's Union owned everything and did not have to negotiate. Wrong answer in public service, and this is what FDR meant by "insurmount­able limitation­s when applied to public personnel management...."

What happened? Many Teachers took concessions with the School districts against the Teacher's Union so no one would be laid off and to help the community. Since the Union was no longer representing teachers - but the teachers could not get out of the Union or stop paying dues due to State Law...the Law were then changed by those who represented the People.....

In short, the Teacher Union, WEAC, stopped representing teachers, why should Teachers pay union dues? And why shouldn't they be able to choose who represents them?
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hrpmap
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02:17 PM on 11/15/2011
The NLRB is attacking right to work states, not a legit function of their purpose.
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conchop
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01:57 PM on 11/15/2011
Workers in the USA are waking up and studying our recent history. Workers are also finding the conservative ideology the USA has subscribed to over the past 3 decades is deceitful, dangerous, villainous, and a failure.

We work hard and are a competitive lot. Our small businesses and jobs are the backbone of Main Street America. However we seek stability and prosperity for us and our families. After being robbed of our middle class wealth, you can expect an uprising, tax hikes on the wealthy, and boycotts on those who have ruined the American dream.

A return to a Liberal and Socialist ideology is coming soon, and we're going to make you Conservatives like it.
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bansidhe54
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03:53 PM on 11/15/2011
Baloney. First, small businesses are not subject to unionization and never have been. Small business owners are not the "workers" but the employers, and they employ most of the workers in the U.S. and always have. It's the small business owners who make up the majority of those earning $250,000+ who you want to tax to death--forcing them to lay off more workers. It's the middle-class workers and small business owners who make up the "Taxed Enough Already" Party. Conservative policies have not dominated legislation since FDR. Until the recent ONE decade, the Demografts controlled the Senate and House--usually with super-majorities. Nearly the entire tax code and all other statutes currently on the books were created by the Demograft party. If you want to see the real trend, look at the state legislatures and the three highest state offices over the past 30 years. That's why the Demografts keep losing seats in the House--they wasted their majority years when they were 80% of the voting population, while only 20% were Republican. We aren't the underdogs anymore. Nanny-nanny-boo-boo.
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donk970
Hard working member of the 99%
04:40 PM on 11/15/2011
It's true that small business employs the vast majority of the US workforce and it's true, according to census and SBA data that average income for business owners is about $230K but you are assuming a linear distribution of income over all business's. It's not. The vast majority of small business owners earn well under 200K and are in no way affected by proposed tax increases. Also, that's increases on personal income which really doesn't affect hiring/firing decisions since payroll is a business deduction. Business' hire and fire based on demand just like it's always been.
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conchop
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08:52 AM on 11/16/2011
Rubbish - the TEA/GOP and their perverted view of governance is subjecting the entire world to abject poverty. Being a small business owner, I've seen it. If my business cannot sell due to the contraction of money taken out of the economy, as per your failed ideological results, then we begin to see why.

Honest and fair business is hardly possible because of the ideological Ayn Rand fantasies and flawed Austrian Libertarian school you subscribe to. Corporate welfare and their conservative lackeys in government is ruining the USA. "We the People" see the diabolical nature of this conservative effort and it will be changed.
01:46 PM on 11/15/2011
The NLRB approach to the Boeing plant in S. Carolina is at least one example of making the US a less attractive place to manufacture. It sends a clear signal to folks looking to set up manufacturing here. There may be other examples as well.
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01:21 PM on 11/15/2011
The National Labor Relations Board is an independent federal agency charged with an important mission. In fulfilling that mission, the hardworking people at the Board are just doing their jobs.

Well that's one way to look at it.
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bansidhe54
Gov Dunmore must hang, Richard Bland 1775
01:21 PM on 11/15/2011
How about injecting some facts in this discussion, rather than just spewing old and tired dogma and hatred? Here are some facts I have to share. 1) All previous case law blocking a company from building a new plant (anywhere) hinged on the closure or reduction of the existing (union) plant. Boeing has actually increased jobs at the existing plant and has no plans to reduce them. High demand for their products requires them to build a new plant somewhere. The Supreme Court is not likely to side with this "acting General Counsel" of the NLRB, whose permanent appointment has not even been proferred for a vote in the Senate (where there is a Democrat majority). 2) Not only is unemployment slightly lower in the 22 right-to-work states, but the majority of job growth and population growth in the recent 30 years has occurred in those 22 states. The results of all these factors are (a) 60% of the 2008 population lived in those 22 states, and (b) 2008 per capita wages in those 22 states were $2700 higher annually than in the other 28 states, which = $11,000 per year more for a family of 4. Further, where workers truly have the "right to choose" as individuals in those 22 states, most choose NOT to join the union or to vote to unionize. Some of you need to think more deeply about why that is so. Multiple regression models support all of the above.
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David Esmay
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01:51 PM on 11/15/2011
I live in a right to work for less state, NC, where wages have never been close to national averages. Most of your statements are patently false. These states focus on a proliferation of cheap labor, and coincidently spend far less on education than most states, and unemployment is high.
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hrpmap
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02:40 PM on 11/15/2011
http://www.americansforprosperity.org/021909-right-work-and-productivity-numbers If you want to be credible in your posts get the facts. you are wrong according to the US government.
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WI Patriot
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02:23 PM on 11/15/2011
Here is some more facts....public sector unions now own the democratic party and are the largest specil interest in the Nation.

Top 10 Heavy Hitters: ActBlue $56,856,922
AT&T Inc $47,737,462
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $46,366,658
National Assn of Realtors $40,823,776
Service Employees International Union $37,634,117
National Education Assn $37,146,129
Goldman Sachs $36,046,453
American Assn for Justice $35,021,304
Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $34,445,372
Laborers Union $32,096,950
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/

Therefore it is highly questionable Senators truley believe in worker rights - or Public Sector Union money collection.............and distribution....................
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12:56 PM on 11/15/2011
Most of the short attention spanners prefer easy formulas. So, they enjoy people who blame the 99% for being too greedy, while exempting the 1% who own nearly everything. Creating sustainable jobs is slow, hard work. Sending the best jobs abroad is easy, and profitable in the short term, even if stupid over the long term.
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jeanrenoir
12:42 PM on 11/15/2011
There's really only one practical issue that will determine who wins next fall. Either the white working-class of America starts to wake up and figure out how they've been so easily suckered by Republican plutocrats like the Kochs with "social issues" and "values issues" into betraying themselves and their kids economically for the past forty years plus, or these heretofore incredibly stupid white workers won't. If the workers DO finally wake up, as they seemed to in Ohio recently, not only Obama but also Democratic candidates for Congress should have a good shot. If the workers stay well conned and hypnotized by Fox, Rush, and the Kochs, however, American fascism will be stronger than ever.
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conchop
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01:38 PM on 11/15/2011
OMG - that was brilliant. The "sleeping giant" is waking up. The workers who lined up with the dazzling mirage from the right wing media realize their horrible mistake and are angry with the tricksters and unfortunately, with themselves.

Everyday is election day with your voting dollars. Once the Walker recall and the national elections roll around, I do believe we will see a massive retreat from the TEA/GOP. If the "D's" get in and fail at rebuilding the middle class, a new party for the middle class will be formed.
12:41 PM on 11/15/2011
It is incredible to me as well that the Republicans are wasting so much time and energy trying to get rid of the NLRB because they really don't need to -- it has been rendered ineffective and worthless in protecting worker's rights for at least 3 decades now. Getting rid of the NLRB would just finish the job that Reagan began when he broke the Air Traffic Controllers Union back in the 1980's. I was part of an effort to organize a union in the late 1980's. The company I was working for at the time was found guilty of a host of violations and the only thing that happened was they were told -- after they successfully busted the union efforts with dirty tricks -- not to do that again. No fines -- no reprecussions of any kind -- just 'now that you've gotten away with it, don't do it again.'
02:29 PM on 11/15/2011
"it has been rendered ineffective"

Tell that to Boeing, who can't open their new plant because of the NLRB. The NLRB is very effective at preventing thousands of high-paying jobs from being created.
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HST
Conservatism = selfishness
04:30 PM on 11/15/2011
Labor And Employment Law Professor Fisk: If NLRB General Counsel's Complaint Is True, This Is An "Absolutely Standard Violation" Of Federal Labor Laws. In a telephone interview with Media Matters, University of California-Irvine Chancellor's Professor of Law Catherine Fisk said that if the NLRB general counsel's complaint is true, this is an "absolutely standard violation of Section 8(a)(1) [of the National Labor Relations Act], which has been in the statute since 1935 and prohibits retaliation against employees for protected activities" such as forming a union, engaging in collective bargaining, and striking. Fisk also said that she saw "nothing controversial" about the complaint. [Phone interview with Media Matters, 5/11/11]

Labor Law Professor Secunda: Complaint Against Boeing Shows The NLRB Is "Carrying Out Its Congressionally Mandated Mission To Protect The Right Of Workers To Engage In Concerted Activity." From a Seattle Times editorial by Marquette University Law School associate professor Paul Secunda

Labor Law Professor Hirsch: Boeing Allegations Involve A "Relatively Straightforward Case Of An Employer Punishing Workers For Striking." From a post on the Workplace Prof Blog by University of Tennessee College of Law associate professor Jeffrey Hirsch