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02:22 PM on 12/07/2011
John Mccain said

"If we focus on the economy we will lose".

He knew republican­­s destroyed the US economy.
Why dont republican voters?
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Tleilaxu Ghola
Haiku Avenger
02:22 PM on 12/07/2011
Coldsore NewtGingrich

with his fade hidden in folds

of disease-like skin.
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ok so now what
wants peace, works for justice
02:28 PM on 12/07/2011
ooh, I love haikus!
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mairs
Ebony and Ivory
02:22 PM on 12/07/2011
Voter suppression laws. A mother secretly filmed trying to get a voter ID card for her son in Wisconsin at the DMV. The son brought his bank statement to show proof of residency. The clerk said there wasn't enough "activity" on the account to satisfy him. They went back and forth over this. The woman asked to see a supervisor who ok'd the proof and took the application form for an ID card. They were going to charge the boy $28. The mother said but a voter ID card is supposed to be free. You can't charge someone to vote. The supervisor said you have to specifically ask for a voter ID, otherwise they charge you if you just ask for an ID. They are the very same ID, but you have to state that you want it so you can vote to get a free one. The mother asked him why they don't ask people why they want an ID. The supervisor said they'd been specifically instructed NOT to ask why the person wanted an ID card.

So there you go, a "poll tax" for voting. If they can charge people for a voter ID, they will, by keeping their rules a secret. They can then weed out undesirables.... people who may tend to vote for Democrats.
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eyelashviper
In wilderness is the preservation of the world
02:24 PM on 12/07/2011
Voter suppression is their newest tactic, and may occur in unprecedented numbers next year, so everyone should be aware, and make sure that they are registered, and ready to vote now...
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ThunderclapNewman
There's Something In the Air
02:26 PM on 12/07/2011
It's hardly a new tactic for the far right---they've been working to suppress the vote for decades.
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danneb1024
counting down to foxlessness
02:21 PM on 12/07/2011
Republican­s have only held both the House of Reps and the White house concurrent­ly and consecutiv­ely for any length of time. The first time Republican­s controlled both the WH and the House was a 3 republican presidenti­al terms which ended with the Great Depression­.

The second and only other time republican­s reigned concurrent­ly was the recent two terms under George W. Bush which ended in the 2nd great depression of our time.
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ThunderclapNewman
There's Something In the Air
02:22 PM on 12/07/2011
There is a direct correlation between Republican control of government and economic failure.
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danneb1024
counting down to foxlessness
02:20 PM on 12/07/2011
When you look to see what that right level is in our history, what you find is very interesting. In our glory years between 1945-1965 (these are the years that the Republicans dream of going back to), the top marginal tax rate fluctuated between 77 percent and 94 percent. I was stunned when I first learned that. People's heads would explode if you suggested those levels now. Yet, it worked for us for decades as we built the great American middle class and our manufacturing base.
The second interesting fact is what happens when we have historically low taxes. From 1925 to1931, the highest marginal tax rate was as low as it has almost ever been -- between 24-25 percent. And between 2003-2010, the highest marginal tax rate was also at one of its lowest points -- 35 percent. So, what happened when we had these really low tax rates? The Great Depression and the Great Recession.
In fact, when you look at when the economy takes off and when it slows down, it almost perfectly matches the fluctuation of our tax rates. Except the correlation is the exact opposite of conventional wisdom -- the economy crashes after tax cuts and takes off after tax increases
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iskra
Natural enemy of sharks and tro//s
02:57 PM on 12/07/2011
In addition:

Those years of prosperity all came on the back of years of massive R&D spending by government. WWII created aviation and manufacturing leadership in the world for decades, the space race propelled us into technological leadership in communications and computing.

But hey, Republicans would have you believe that no taxes, no investments and everybody for themselves is best, at least for a few.

Looking around the world, the only countries that look like that are ones like Somalia and they're not my idea of what our future should be.
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02:20 PM on 12/07/2011
And republican­s are pushing for the arrest and torture of americans without cause.
Obama will Veto it.

So Who is the real conservati­ve?

What more needs to be said.
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GUITFIDDEL
If you PICK on me, you better know the CHORDS
02:19 PM on 12/07/2011
I sometimes find myself disappointed, angry, and apprehensive that issues like these that determine whether America will remain a Democracy is even an augment. Why do you Right Wingers want to destroy our country’s economy now? Everybody realizes now that it was your ideologies that brought us to this recession so, it won’t benefit you to make it worse and try to blame President Obama and the REAL Democrats (excluding the BLUE Dogs) anymore because your hoods fell off and, everyone can see who you really are now.
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whythismess
02:19 PM on 12/07/2011
http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2011/09/if-you-care-about-civil-liberties-vote-for-ron-paul-most-commented.html

if you care about civl liberties, vote paul. if you care about an end to americans wars, vote paul. if you care about wall street running america, vote paul.

if you wish to continue with what we have had the last 3 years, vote obama.

simple.
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eyelashviper
In wilderness is the preservation of the world
02:18 PM on 12/07/2011
So when will the Goper Clown Parade announce their newest proclamation to their platform:
Voting rights no longer a right, but a privilege.....
(along with health care, minimum wage, child labor laws, safe working environment, clean water and air, safe food products, 1st amend rights, etc.)
They will argue, with much intensity, that everyone will have a RIGHT to such, they will just have to pay for it....the free market runs everything, never forget.
02:16 PM on 12/07/2011
The GOP think Massey mines is the way to go: willfully ignore the safety of the workers to increase profits. 20+ miners died there. But what the hell, there are plenty more where they came from, right?

The GOP attitude is every man for himself, get as much money as you can grab, and to hell with the rest. Lovely.
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SueMVetforObama2
2013 Republican Shutdown & Tantrum
02:14 PM on 12/07/2011
The current GOP slate is a laughingstock.

It is so bad, that actual Conservatives are hoping for a late entry dark horse.
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
02:15 PM on 12/07/2011
They've already got one--Huntsman.
02:17 PM on 12/07/2011
And if he had a ghost of a chance of making the convention as the candidate, I'd agree.
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SueMVetforObama2
2013 Republican Shutdown & Tantrum
02:21 PM on 12/07/2011
Huntsman turned his back to America by leaving his post as my Rep to our strongest strategic foe.

And he supported Climate change. But today he has changed that tune too.

Huntsman is too pliable.
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theMightyT v3
saving wingers from themselves since 2008
02:15 PM on 12/07/2011
Run S.a.r.ah Run!

lol
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02:13 PM on 12/07/2011
Republicans have gotten middleclass voters to destroy their own lives,the future for their kids and country.
And they STILL dont care we were lied into WAR and TORTURED.
Shredded the Constitution with the "Patriot Act"
Now they want to arrest and TORTURE US citizens with impunity.

And when republican­s had the chance to repeal that provision?

Senate Intelligen­ce Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., had sought an exception to the provision for U.S. citizens, but her effort failed, 55-45.

GovTrack: S.Amdt. 1126: To limit the authority of the Armed Forces to ...
www.govtra­ck.us › Congress › Roll Call Votes

Republican­s have dummed this country down so much its become farsicle.
02:10 PM on 12/07/2011
"I hope they keep this up," gloated Grover Norquist, one of the Republican Party's most influential strategists. "Hippies elected Nixon. Occupy Wall Street will beat Obama."
How the hell does Norquist make the leap that OWS favors the right? This is pure spin put out by the right trying to say the Tea Baggers and the OWS share the same basic philosophy.
Also I keep hearing references to one time Presidents Jimmy Carter and Lyndon Johnson as proof that Obama will lose the election, let’s put that to rest shall we?
Carter was Beat by Reagan and I assure you there is not one of the dwarfs on the right even close to Reagan in stature and hey I hate to deflate the bubble even more but Lyndon chose not to run for a second term for a variety of reasons but mostly due to a drop in popularity over the Viet Nam war.
As for Grover, let’s have him back on “REAL TIME with BILL MAHER” so we can watch him squirm as he has always done when confronted head on.
02:14 PM on 12/07/2011
You misread the quote. He does not make that leap.

He is claiming that reactionary backlash to the hippies is what got Nixon elected, and that backlash against OWS will do the same thing for a republican candidate.
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SueMVetforObama2
2013 Republican Shutdown & Tantrum
02:16 PM on 12/07/2011
The problem is the GOP does not have a credible candidate.
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patricksmom
Extreme cat and dog lover
02:18 PM on 12/07/2011
Norquist is sudh a clown.. I don't see that happening.
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saveourplanet
War, what is it good for?Absolutely nothin.
02:24 PM on 12/07/2011
I think Carter was beaten by not being able to free the Americans being held hostage by the Iranians.

But remember Pres. Obama got Bin Laden.

NO ONE in the GOTP can take that away from him.
Oh but they'll sure try.
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dmsdzinr
Progression wit a twist of sarcasm.
02:26 PM on 12/07/2011
The problem with the TP/GOP is that they still think that everyone will buy their B.S.
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danneb1024
counting down to foxlessness
02:09 PM on 12/07/2011
The modern Republican party has one masterful, godlike skill unmatched by any other organization Its leaders are geniuses at deceit, at leading throngs of blind believers into rabbit holes of war and fear and factual inaccuracy, often using an aggressively dumbed-down form of Christianity as a trump card. Sexual dread, mistrust of youth, of women, of gays, foreigners, of the ever-changing cultural landscape? It's in the DNA. And the Tea Party chugged it like Coors-flavored heroin.
Proof? Look no further than the GOP's leaders and mouthpieces: Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, O'Reilly and Fox News and even newly minted Senate demigod Mitch McConnell. There are almost no liberal equivalents to these professional liars, warmongers, kingmakers and overlords.
Not all red-leaning voters this election are screwed. If you're tremendously wealthy and/or run a large corporation, you're feeling good right about now. Wall Street is giddy , eager for more deregulation, bigger bonuses, less oversight. The CEOs of every oil company are positively orgasmic knowing that their GOP breathren will now asphyxiate all attempts at new environmental legislation and regulation.
But if you are a lower to middle-class Republican, Tea Partier or flip-flopping indie voter, you are now in the most delightfully ironic position of all -- you think you just voted yourself more voice, when in fact you voted for far less. You think yourself a lion; you're actually the meat. You actually just voted yourself an even lower position on the food chain. Congratulations.
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theMightyT v3
saving wingers from themselves since 2008
02:08 PM on 12/07/2011
PerfectSense
The point is you determined commitment to hypocrisy.

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Huh?

It's not hypocritical to point out that conservative philosophy in America is quite possibly the most destructive force in the late 20th / early 21st century just because my own country currently has a conservative government.

Nor is it hypocritical to criticize Republican energy policy simply because Canada is mining the oil sands.

I don't support it at home, either.
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69dogrudebark
GOP.....Guardians of Privilege
02:14 PM on 12/07/2011
not possibly....it is....they gave us the freedom fighters of the ME....that ended up taking our nation to war....then they gave us bad mortgages....they gave us fraud through deregulation they gave us bubble after bubble with their policies while suppressing the tax rates during good times and not paying down the debt....they cut taxes during war times....

The Conservative Movement is the single largest destructive force in America....and they go into the military at a rate of 70%.....then come home to police the nation....like they were still in the military....while shoving bibles up the uterus and an-us.
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seegray
Nobody can bring you peace but yourself (Emerson)
02:15 PM on 12/07/2011
Some people have trouble understanding the term "hypocritical".
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ThunderclapNewman
There's Something In the Air
02:18 PM on 12/07/2011
Especially the right-wing hypocrites.