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Veneita
If trolls had minds, they wouldn't be trolls
11:38 PM on 12/23/2011
BHO  isn't FDR. His party is different and the partisanship is far worse. It is disheartening that a man whose grandfather's agenda was checked by Repub partisanship now criticizes a man who follows the same traditions as his grandfather. FDR made distasteful but pragmatic compromises like excluding domestics and agricultural workers (mostly of color) from social security to get southern Dem support and opposing an anti-lynching bill to curry support for his agenda New Deal. So why is Obama supposed to be any more courageous than Roosevelt. Curtis defended his grandfather's actions in the Great Depression (Blackside Productions, 1993) episode "To Be Somebody."
10:44 AM on 12/24/2011
the partisanship you speak of is political theater.

The game is rigged so the Plutocracy wins regardless of who wins minor concessions, the political wrangling is for your viewing pleasure and to keep you mad at the 'other guys' and not the people pulling the strings. Obama has been paid to lose, but he will make you think he's trying.

Haven't you wondered why WE always lose?
12:58 PM on 12/24/2011
Perfectly stated! Wish I could fan you again.
10:59 PM on 12/23/2011
"Reich set out some of the steps the president would have to promise to take in his second term so that we, the legion of disenchanted voters, can wholeheartedly support his re-election"

Give me a break buddy . . .

You act like the far left is going to place their votes with another candidate . . . at the end of the day you'll all show up and vote FOR Obama or AGAINST the GOP.

You know it, I know it and Obama knows it.

Hence your cute little demands are worthless because your vote doesn't need to be earned.
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nofriendofrepublicans
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11:41 PM on 12/23/2011
I think you have them confused with teabaggers.
11:44 PM on 12/23/2011
Let me remind you of the midterm elections. I rather stay home than vote for Obama, I will only vote for Ron Paul if he wins the primaries or run as an independent. You will see! BTW! I'm not the only one. Voting for Obama is a vote for the Republicans.
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DCpuppets
02:52 AM on 12/24/2011
I will be voting for Ron Paul in 2012 too. I just can't vote for Obama again.
Zip Zinzel
If a Nation expects to be both Ignorant & Free . .
10:59 PM on 12/23/2011
Mr. Roosevelt- You have no idea of how politics works today
Mr. Obama will only be a President, not a king

When you suggest, that citizens should hold their elected Representative's feet to the fire
. . You likewise don't understand the modern Congress
Due to Gerrymandersing, Elected Politicians don't serve their districts,
. . they now serve their Parties.
Almost all districts have been designed to be safe for one party or the other, and that is who they now serve.

The Republicans set the agenda on this matter, if the Republican Congresspeople don't toe the party line, a mountain of money will flood into their district at the next election, and the loyal Republican voters will almost always do as their establishment (and the monied interests) want.

The Democrats must fight this in opposition, or the Republican agenda will prevail

People who complain about turncoat DEMS, usually don't realize that a lot of those folks are in Right-Leaning Districts, and if those Congresspeople didn't vote somewhat in the interests of their districts, they would get replaced by real Republicans

It is far better to have a DEM that votes with us 66% of the time
. . instead of a Repub who votes with us 5% of the time.
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nofriendofrepublicans
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11:42 PM on 12/23/2011
It's better to have a dem that votes with you 100% of the time.
Zip Zinzel
If a Nation expects to be both Ignorant & Free . .
01:41 AM on 12/24/2011
jaggerrichard you kant always get what you want.
Zip Zinzel
If a Nation expects to be both Ignorant & Free . .
01:45 AM on 12/24/2011
You need to take that up with the voters in that district, very few congressional districts will elect a Bernie Sanders,
and those districts will never elect a person that is 100% to your liking
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tulsey
I was Bill Hicks.
11:53 PM on 12/23/2011
I want the names of those 5%,heads will roll!
Zip Zinzel
If a Nation expects to be both Ignorant & Free . .
01:43 AM on 12/24/2011
It's the electorate you have the problem with, very few congressional districts will elect a Bernie Sanders,
10:36 PM on 12/23/2011
Why vote for someone who lied about being a Socialist, who misrepresented his core beliefs, political ideology, his connections to an entire network of Socialist Activists in Chicago, his membership in the Socialist Party - his and Michelle's membership in "The New Party" - an even more liberal socialist movement, his work with Midwest Academy wherein he trained recruits in heavy-handed tactics such as having 100 people storm a bank's offices or tracked individuals to their homes and terrorized them and their families? Why vote for someone whose goal is to destroy our economy, yet has no logical, rational goal for post-destruction?

Why indeed?
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kmeccat
life is just a series of adaptations
11:18 PM on 12/23/2011
Wow...talk about a pack of lies and misinformation.
Where do you get this stuff?
Obama is about as Socialist as McCarthy.
He's actually to the right of Nixon!
Epic Fail.
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Democrat in the South
Empathy, the most important word
11:47 PM on 12/23/2011
That's why we won't be voting for the dirty republiclowns. You've sold me.
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Victor Trevino
That's Ridiculous
10:29 PM on 12/23/2011
Go ahead and be languid from the South of France, as you preach apathy to democrats and siphon off enthusiasm for the progress of Democratic goals. Those of us that live here will weigh our choices and envision what we want the future of our country and world to look like, and not gamble on a game of cat and mouse with a man who already has endured the least respect for a president in memory and achieved more than many give him credit for.
Not assertive enough? A halting of a worldwide economic slide,- passing of a healthcare bill -, a march forward on civil liberties-Osama Bin Laden-Ghadafi- the end of the war in Iraq. if all these leave you feeling less sanguine about Obama, then by all means check out the options. He may not be perfect, but he is the ONLY intelligent option. As the first black president, Obama has played his role perfectly.
12:18 AM on 12/24/2011
What a cheap shot! Next you will asking people who disagree with you to move out of America.
01:41 AM on 12/24/2011
Elizabeth Warren for president in 2012!
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Michael D Ballantine
Texas Justice Party - Chairperson
10:14 PM on 12/23/2011
What a wonderful idea, it is time to put up or shut-up. Let's put the legislation on the table and defy them to vote no.l
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Fireslayer
09:58 PM on 12/23/2011
Progressives should focus on Senate and House races and not send their money or ground game to Obama. Yes, i will hold my nose and vote for him. But that is only because the Republican nominee will be plainly evil as opposed to Obama disappointing.

Single payer or Medicare for all should be the congressional campaign battle cry!
09:42 PM on 12/23/2011
Most people have gotten poorer in the last 4 years..How is your home value doing? It will get worse if Obama is elected. As a matter of fact he will issue an executive order forcing you to share your home with someone who does not have one.
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General Washington
In the future, I return as Geddy Lee
10:19 PM on 12/23/2011
Umm... Just in case you hadn't noticed, Obama has only been President for 3 years.

I'm no fan of this Administration, but at least try to show a minimum level of intelligence before criticizing it.

As for the rest of those paranoid fantasies... you should really stop listening to the Beckster and get back on your medication.
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nofriendofrepublicans
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11:44 PM on 12/23/2011
LOL F&F
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SonOfUgh
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10:22 PM on 12/23/2011
Please provide a link to a credible news source even REMOTELY backing up your future prediction regarding home values and your prediction regarding executive orders. Oh right, you have none. Sorry for asking.
09:35 PM on 12/23/2011
We need to move on. We keep waiting for the perfect time to get behind a third party candidate. There is no perfect time, but I will say that by voting the lesser of two evils we are simply moving the whole dialogue further to the Right. The money is the main issue and until we deal with that no amount of voting out incumbents is going to do anything. There are a few good politicians but we need to know who we are voitng for. Russ Fiengold was one of them and we voted him out because we were not thinking calmly and rationally. Anger is fine but it needs to be educated and channeled in a wise manner.
We must also stop being afraid. Vote for the right person regardless. That should be our ultimate duty in a Democracy. Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party is a viable alternative and you can hear his interview on Democracy Now.
Obama is not interested in a liberal agenda. It's not that he doesn't have balls, it's not that he is up against Republicans who are stonewalling. Obama always starts on the right of center in any negotiation and deals from there. His actions are clear, and they don't match his words.
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RichieB
The Universe is even stranger than we can imagine.
10:44 PM on 12/23/2011
I'm in favor of a good "progressive" 3rd party. For a candidate, Alan Grayson comes to mind but I am Feingold fan also. Although I have been disappointed with Obama at times, he seems to have found his stride and I hope he will continue on his current track. Hopefully he has learned the lesson that you can't compromise with people that refuse to compromise with you.
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kmeccat
life is just a series of adaptations
11:23 PM on 12/23/2011
Agreed.
Grayson...Feingold...Warren...Sanders...and now Rocky Anderson (Justice Party)...all would make great POTUS's.
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nofriendofrepublicans
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11:45 PM on 12/23/2011
Or all this is just a show to get reelected.
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afairview
cheap energy, the best stimulus
09:22 PM on 12/23/2011
It's not easy to follow Bush's legacy, many people got inmensely rich and powerful (mostly at the expense of the middle clas and lower) during that time, and they are not going to give their golden goose so easy. Worse, they have the money and the power to keep the "status quo" so Obama can be a one term president. It's up to the voters to see beyond the propaganda.
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10:12 PM on 12/23/2011
Guess you have not been following the details about the most scandal ridden administration in history too carefully. No clues about the Obama regime, I see.
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stemchek
Can't dance, too wet to plow. May as well comment.
02:15 AM on 12/24/2011
EVERY President, back to JFK had that same claim put against his administration.
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skipnosis
09:18 PM on 12/23/2011
Voters who trust any major party candidate to deliver to the 99% once in office are deluded...

They all operate in and benefit from a system that could care less about regular Americans -

The Democratic Party claim over the last 40 years that they are the party of the common man has been one of the biggest political charades in the history of this country.
10:11 PM on 12/23/2011
Yep, and no one seemed to notice. Ohio has been getting creamed,but it was mostly blue collar workers. Where were the democrats?
10:42 PM on 12/23/2011
"skipnosis"..
.I understand your anger....I even applaud it.....

I urge you to temper and focus that anger......

Must admit.....the reason I picked YOU to respond to....was your "avatar"

Who looks precisely as I did in 1968....(I may have had a beard)

1968
When LBJ had only lately given the results of the Civil War "teeth"...(Civil/Voting Rights acts)
And given FDR's "New Deal" breadth (that IS how you spell that) via Medicare/Mediciad

Plainly, I could go on at some length..but I won't..

QUESTION ON THE FLOOR........ FOR "SKIPNOSIS" (clever screen names!).....

Please name ANOTHER political force that has advanced the interests of the "common man" more than the Democratic Party in your lifetime....You seem to believe you are a great scholar about the last 40 years........

FOR FUN (and possibly extra credit): Same question...except "shorten the frame" to the last 20yrs.....to the last 100..
your choice

I submit that the ultimate answer will be the same.....


Not an attack....or what you probably call a "smackdown" (I always think of professional wrestling when I hear that)

Just an invitation to a conversation....

I suggest the angry young man in the little picture that accompanies your post...
(avatar?...do I have that right?)...
would LEAP at the chance....bearded or not

As time permits
TM
12:01 AM on 12/24/2011
Well put. Dems, unlike Republicans, do not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

The Dems should embrace a full New Deal platform. Example: The republicans want to limit collective bargaining rights of union workers? The Dems should call for a repeal of Taft Hartley. THAT'S how you negotiate. You start on YOUR side of the field, not theirs.
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bccmeteorites
Don't believe everything NASA says.
09:18 PM on 12/23/2011
Quit dabbling in empty hope and snake skin oil and abandon him already. Go RON PAUL!
10:05 PM on 12/23/2011
Yes...plainly we don't have enough VIRULENT RACISTS in public life.
What we need is to elect one President....based on the fact that he "has principles" and is"honest"

By that standard....I'm sure you voted for David Duke

Apalling BCC......
TM
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tulsey
I was Bill Hicks.
12:15 AM on 12/24/2011
I'm on the fence between Ross Perot and Ralph Nader.
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tc71087
08:48 PM on 12/23/2011
I support President Obama still, and not due to blind faith. I support him because even though he is a trailblazer, his political life has not been easy, and continues not to be easy. I support him for the actions he has made since he has been elected in office that have progressed and benefited this country, and not for the actions he was not able to make in his first term. The people he has been around have not been much help. The Republicans, especially their Tea Party counterparts, want to lynch him and blame him for every problem present rather than take their own responsibility since they have contributed so much to the mess, and the Democrats are willing to throw him under the bus at any given turn so they could get ahead. Amidst the stagnant, claustrophobic, accusatory Washington D.C. culture, President Obama continues to push for the changes needed to be made in this country, and that is something I still believe in.
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10:01 PM on 12/23/2011
During the first two years of his administration he and the Democrats had complete control. If he really wanted to do some of the things he claimed he had his chance. That is why the big change in 2011. Now all of a sudden he can't get things done because he does not have complete control. The Democrats controlled Congress for 4 of the last 5 years and we have gone downhill very fast. It's very easy to blame things on a party that has not been in control. Keep drinking the kool aide. The senior citizens and veterans have paid a high price with this administration.
04:02 PM on 12/24/2011
Got one word for ya: filibuster.
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SirReal1
08:47 PM on 12/23/2011
No President in history, EVEN "The Messiah" Reagan, has fulfilled the ALL the wishes of their own supporters, let alone ALL the American people.

Quite honestly, it would frighten me if they did.

Politics move far slower than popular opinion, that is simply a fact in a Democratic Republic. The "rightward push" that began with Reagan, took 20 years before it could be culminated by the most radically right-wing administration since the Coolidge/Hoover administrations; The Bush years.

The Legislative and Bureaucratic remnants left from a previously extreme administration takes YEARS to clean out in the BEST of circumstance (significant majority support in Congress, the Courts, and the Citizenry) and potentially decades when lacking that level of support.

EVEN the great FDR could not move as quickly as was needed because of the entrenched remnants of the previous administrations, and the Country ended up slipping into a "double-dip" recession as a result. The only thing that saved us was WWII, which motivated the Nation to fully support The President and allowed him to implement a number of Legislative Acts in support of the "war effort".

I'd rather not have another World War, just to prove to everyone that President Obama is the "Leader" that his critics claim he is not.

Given a solid majority in Congress and a 2nd term, I am confident he CAN and WILL lead the Nation (farther) away from the brink that we were PRECIPITOUSLY close to, three short years ago.
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General Washington
In the future, I return as Geddy Lee
10:04 PM on 12/23/2011
Your history is very wrong, and your comparisons with Obama are dramatically overwrought.

But, I'll just focus on Franklin Delano Roosevelt's second term (1937 to 1941).

The country went into another recession in 1937 because Roosevelt himself listened to the debt-mania and bond vigilantes of the time. He chose to focus on deficit cutting, despite the warnings of some of his own advisers.

Once he realized his mistake, and started new programs to provide employment, the economy again came out of a recession.

Something that occurred before World War 2, and with a smaller Democratic majority in both Houses of Congress (caused by his misguided policies)...
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SirReal1
10:37 AM on 12/24/2011
"Your history is very wrong, and your comparison­s with Obama are dramatical­ly overwrough­t."

Short of the conclusion, which is supported by Historical Facts, you seem to present, at least in a general sense, the same History that I have.

Are we BOTH WRONG?

Are you saying that the "debt-mania" and "bond vigilantes" were NOT the Conservatives? Better check your facts.

The economic downturn of 1936/37, occurred during FDR's FIRST TERM (1933 - 1937). When he led the sweep of Democratic Leadership in the election of 1936, which gave the Democratic majority six new seats in the Senate and eleven new seats in the House, he pushed back against the Conservatives economic policies with renewed vigor. Still, it was not until 1941 that America began to see productivity and growth restored to "pre-Depression levels".

By the time the 76th Congress was seated, America had already begun transitioning to a "War Production" industrial base. While our entrance was still two years away, we had begun investment in industries that were beginning to make Military Hardware for Europe, as well as increasing our own Military stock.

I'm confused as to what you "believe" I got wrong here.

Are there actual "facts" you're questioning?

Or is this just another example of "belief" trumping reality?
10:19 PM on 12/23/2011
Actually, dearie, the Obama regime, under his inept and clueless "leadership" pushed this country over the brink. The next election will help bring our nation back toward jobs and prosperity once again ... as soon as the majority can send BO packing.

You also failed both history and economic reality with your factless assertions .... and FDR actually prolonged the recession.
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1Truthseeker
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12:31 AM on 12/24/2011
Like the 2010 midterm did! Hot air and more hot air!
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SirReal1
10:17 AM on 12/24/2011
Uh, yeah.

Because we continued the trend that began in 2007, and proceeded into a full scale Depression, after President Obama took office.

Oh wait, that didn't happen.

Because the Economy continued to bleed jobs, and unemployment continued unabated for the entire first term of the President.

Oh wait, that didn't happen either.

Because the Stock Market continued its downward spiral and has gone even lower than it did in 2008.

Oh wait, that didn't happen either.

Because President Obama allowed major Industries to FAIL and simply stood by as Millions more were put out of work, the Industrial base collapsed, and Wall Street was "bailed out" again with virtually NO OVERSIGHT of where the money was going.

Oh Wait, that didn't happen either!

Because President Obama continued to allow TWO WARS to be conducted "off the books", allowed Medicare Part D to be unfunded, and allowed the Nations DEBT to continue growing at an unprecedented rate by refusing to allow the BORROWING to be included in the Budget (thereby creating two different accounting "books" to be presented to the American public. One: The Official Budget, and the other "Off Budget DEBT that simply was never addressed).

OH WAIT, He didn't DO THAT EITHER!

So, IN WHAT WORLD, dearie, DID WE "GO OVER THE BRINK"?

The Facts (not that they really matter to you) are:

Every leading economic indicator HAS IMPROVED since President Obama took office.
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jstrate
08:42 PM on 12/23/2011
For many, the glass seems mostly empty. Sure, he shakes down Wall Street, corporations, and organized interests for campaign money like every other elected public official. How are we to judge the performance of a president in a separation of powers system. The president has more leeway in foreign policy--we're getting out of Iraq, Bin Laden is dead, Afghanistan is starting to wind down, we've not started any new wars with the possible exception of Libya (and the dictator there is now dead). Iran hasn't tried to blow up Israel yet, and there have been no terrorist attacks on American soil. With respect to the economy, it takes time to turn things around, perhaps at least 18 months. Look at the record. After about 18 months into his term we see steady job growth. Then there's health care reform, financial reform, and a lot of other stuff. Put whatever spin on this you want, but it's not a bad record.