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01:37 PM on 02/02/2012
That headline doesn't mean much to the four soldiers in my state who were just returned to the U.S. from Afghanistan in caskets
01:37 PM on 02/02/2012
Let's face it - we went into Afghanistan for one reason: To corner Osama Bin Laden. Now that the boogeyman is dead, there's no reason to stay. If the Taliban and Afghan tribal malefactors have any sense at all they'll hang out and wait until the cat's gone, then come out and play.

Yet another pointless military non-victory...
03:33 PM on 02/02/2012
Just like Vietnam.
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rocknhula
We are all here because we are all not there
01:31 PM on 02/02/2012
That's nice, that we tell our enemies when they can take over. Why not give them an ass pass for all Americans? Afghan, like Iran and Pakistan, will now be the battlegrounds of the future we are leaving to our children to inherit and, by that time we will understand that nuclear weapons are the only answer to solving their problem and protecting our country from future aggression.
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Blackorpheus
the decisive blows are always struck left-handed
01:08 PM on 02/02/2012
Didn't we hear that last year? And the year before?
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pmoschetta
Where are the Jobs, Speaker Boehner?
01:25 PM on 02/02/2012
No, we didn't

Sorry
02:35 PM on 02/02/2012
No, but we are hearing it now because it is an election year. All sorts of wonderful things are going to happen this year and be promised, but when election day has come and gone things will revert back to the way they have been, empty and broken promises. And I'm talking both parties.
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Blackorpheus
the decisive blows are always struck left-handed
03:23 PM on 02/02/2012
Even before Obama dozens of dates about "exit" strategies and dates have been cited re Afghanistan, as they were re Iraq. Of course election year means that the lies and blandishments increases exponentially.
12:58 PM on 02/02/2012
A good beginning to getting our troops and their allies out of this ant heap. Sadly, the risks involved in training these Afghans will likely result in many treacherous attacks upon our troops with some loss of life. Hopefully, every one will wear Kevlar protective armor whilst carrying out this rather dubious task. Remember, we trained and armed the Afghans before they morphed into the Taliban and it seems that was counterproductive.
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connman250
"YOU CAN KEEP YOUR PLAN"
01:08 PM on 02/02/2012
Yes, but let's get out of there and just seal our boarders.
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rocknhula
We are all here because we are all not there
01:34 PM on 02/02/2012
That's brilliant. How will that protect us from short range missiles? How will that protect our allies? Ron Paul's ideas are suicide.
12:44 PM on 02/02/2012
Regardless of the exit date. Afghanistan will again engage
in civil war. This country is tribal and still in the stone age.
Obama did not end our involvement in Iraq, but he sure can
end this war tomorrow. But that would require a pair.
12:39 PM on 02/02/2012
You can almost hear the stampede of critism from the Right about how setting a timetable will embolden the enemy to defeat our forces. They forget the Taliban live in Afghanistan and can wait 100 years to defeat America and NATO. Leaving in 2013 or tomorrow will not make one iota of difference, yet the Right cannot get a grasp on why that is. And the reason the candidates running for the GOP do not discuss this scenerio is because it is a poison pill for them, and everyone should know why that is.
01:07 PM on 02/02/2012
I think Ron Paul would agree with you.
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pmoschetta
Where are the Jobs, Speaker Boehner?
01:26 PM on 02/02/2012
The right will be whigging out at any moment on this decision

If they had their way, we'd have never left Iraq and would be in Iran by now
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12:27 PM on 02/02/2012
You kidding tomorrow wouldn't be soon enough to protect that puppet regime of Afghanistan about time the US gets smart about that dirt hole of a country!
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12:18 PM on 02/02/2012
If we aren't gunning down civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq how will we provide welfare to our military industrial complex?

Stop being so selfish. Think of the Halliburtons and Blackwaters of the world. What will they do without all these no-bid contracts?

Oh yeah, I forgot about Iran. We're screwed.
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EdCorner
Lifelong Democrat..... until the bailouts.
12:07 PM on 02/02/2012
Karl Eikenberry: Commander of Combined Forces in Afghanistan before he was made ambassador, Eikenberry, a retired Lieutenant General, had seniority over both Petraeus and then war commander General Stanley McChrystal when it came to experience in that country and theater of war. He was the author of cables to the State Department in late 2009, which carried a stinging rebuke to the conduct of the war and unconcealed hostility toward any new policy of escalation. The Eikenberry cables were drafted in order to influence the White House review that fall; they advised that the Afghan war was in the process of being lost, that it could never be won, and that nothing good would come from an increased commitment of U.S. troops.

Petraeus, then Centcom commander, and McChrystal were both disturbed by the cables -- startled when they arrived unbidden and intimidated by their authority. Obama, astonishingly, chose to ignore them. This may be the single most baffling occasion of the many when fate dealt a winning card to the president and yet he folded. Among other such occasions: the 2008-2009 bank bailouts and the opening for financial regulation; the BP oil spill in the Gulf and the opportunity for a revised environmental policy; the Fukushima nuclear plant meltdowns and a revised policy toward nuclear energy. But of all these as well as other cases that might be mentioned, the Eikenberry cables offer the clearest instance of persisting in a discredited policy against the weight of impressive evidence.

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Guy Fratianni
my micro has gone bio
03:21 PM on 02/02/2012
Hell Bush ignored Clinton and Patreaus or Patreaus's book on how to deal with an insurgency.
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Ayesha Khan
12:07 PM on 02/02/2012
Why would the Afghans let the US train their armed forces, it doesn't make any sense. Moreover, if the US is not competent enough to use its own natural resources how will it benefit from the resources of other nations? --The world knows what US is looking for------
11:59 AM on 02/02/2012
Yet, the TSA & DHS remains.
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threelees1
11:48 AM on 02/02/2012
Why does he have advisors if he won't listen to them?

Knowledgable people said it was too soon to pull out of Iraq. He pulled out, the advisors have been proven right.

This will happen again in Afghanistan. We will leave and all hell will break loose, just like in Iraq.

My question is: Why aren't the republiocan hopefulls making this an issue?
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starchildjg24
Balance, Logic and Humor Rule
12:10 PM on 02/02/2012
We never should have been in Iraq, everyone knows that. When Bush changed our mission to one of establishing a democracy, we were doomed. We can't make another country be a democracy, not unless we occupy it forever. The people of the country have to want it. Our soldiers are trained to fight, not be diplomats. Same thing in Afghanistan. Same thing in Mexico. Of course generals advise him to stay, war is their business, it is what they know. I believe that anyone with any common sense knows that unless the people of the country themselves revolt, than our "help" is seen far more as an invasion.
01:09 PM on 02/02/2012
It's never too soon to take hostile forces out of someone else's country. If China were to invade the US, how long should they stay?
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Rick Hines
11:45 AM on 02/02/2012
This president is one dumb a**! Throughout his term he has done every thing possible to telegraph all of our military moves. The blabber mouth must do it as a campaign message. Why else would you give your adversaries a heads up?
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12:28 PM on 02/02/2012
Yeah define winning in Afghanistan there Patton?
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pmoschetta
Where are the Jobs, Speaker Boehner?
01:30 PM on 02/02/2012
DUH

Maybe because he had already informed the Prime Minister of Afghanistan of his intentions and he knows that this information would eventually be leaked regardless?
DUH
Are ALL pubs this freakingstupid?
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