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murphthesurf3 01:00 AM on 08/16/2012
GETTING AN ID CARD......NOT SIMPLE AT ALL- ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE LONG PAST THE AGE WHEN YOU HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR NEVER HAD ONE. From the State DMV page http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/licensing_master/identity.shtml If you are under the age of 18 and are a new resident of Pennsylvania you will need to  Read More...
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kateslate
Courage doesn't always roar.
12:24 PM on 08/16/2012
I was wondering why she just did not apply for an absentee ballot, and travel somewhere during election time. But I went to Penn voting site, and they have disabled the link to apply for an absentee ballot. Why is that? So all the military people from Penn who are out of state will not be allowed to vote because they are not showing up at polls with photo ID? Anybody who is out of state and applying for an absentee ballot is out of luck?

How are they really going to make this new law work when a person can apply for an absentee ballot and mail it in? Why are they making it so difficult? Why do the courts not see this as a blatant attempt at controlling the outcome of the election? If they let the absent military citizens vote, why not this old lady who has lived in Pennsylvania, apparently, for years?

One would think the voting rights act of 1064 would cover all this.
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grnhrnt54
truth is neither left or right
12:35 PM on 08/16/2012
She is the poster child for the democratic party. She is not responsible, Not able to take care of herself. And it is someone else's fault. 1965 civil rights voting acts apply to southern states, Yankee states are exempt.
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kateslate
Courage doesn't always roar.
11:44 PM on 08/16/2012
Um, no, uninformed person.  You have your, ahem, 'facts' wrong.  The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was national legislation.  I am quite certain that you are a white person.  And equally certain you did not get far in school.  
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12:23 PM on 08/16/2012
This is the first time I've ever heard married women being discriminated against.
12:21 PM on 08/16/2012
This whole idea of voter suppression is against everything this country is supposed to stand for.
The idea of a person not qualifying to vote yet when it comes to working and PAYING TAXES, there is no problem.
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GoodDay
Here and Now
12:20 PM on 08/16/2012
The people that should be prevented from voting in the United States are yhose who vote for any candidate backed by Americans for Prosperity, Karl_Rove or the Koch_Brothers. These voters have absolutely not a clue about what is going on in the United States, and thus should be restricted from voting.
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Jake Clampett
12:22 PM on 08/16/2012
as opposed to Soros, Arianna, Trunka, The Nublkpnthsr, ACORN , MediaMatters and the like,,,,,,, was that you yesterday with the Chick Fil A bag ?
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12:22 PM on 08/16/2012
Meanwhile...on another thread...their is criticisms of taking women's and minorities rights away.

Do you see it? Do you see the irony?
12:15 PM on 08/16/2012
"Lee, who cannot get a photo ID in Pennsylvania because for ten years she has not been able to get a birth certificate from her native state of Georgia"
Sounds like she is suing the wrong state, she should be raising all kinds of heck in Georgia!
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LinkTren
Typing with a drink in my hand
12:19 PM on 08/16/2012
Well, PA is the state trying to deny her the right to vote so she's clearly suing the right state.
12:21 PM on 08/16/2012
Sorry but if I sat on that jury of a civil suit, where Lee vs. Georgia for not being able to process a simple birth certificate. I would gladly find for Lee and award her damages.
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SeriesSeven
Progressivism is a disease.
12:45 PM on 08/16/2012
She doesn't need a birth certificate to get an ID in Pennsylvania...

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/voter/voteridlaw.shtml
Gmasters
Never underestimate the Power of Human Stupidity!
12:14 PM on 08/16/2012
There should be a Class Action lawsuit in Federal Court on behalf of All the voters in Pennsylvania naming every Legislator who voted for this law, the Governor and the Secretary of State.
Violation of Constitutional rights.
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grnhrnt54
truth is neither left or right
12:20 PM on 08/16/2012
The big problem is that 30 states have voter identification laws of some type. Not all 30 have Republican Legislatures or Governors. North Carolina has a Republican controlled legislature and no voter identification laws. The conspiracy theory doesn't work. Also North Carolina is a swing state.
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Aurical
Trolls Should Make Like A Tree & Get Out Of Here!
12:36 PM on 08/16/2012
Because one state hasn't tried it, disproves that the effort is not a coordinated one?
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editer
just a voice giggling in the wilderness
12:43 PM on 08/16/2012
I would hope that all fifty states have some type of voter identification laws. If all you had to do is claim to be John Smith or Bob Jones to vote, there would be tons of in-person voter fraud. The i.d. requirement in PA (without photographs) seems to have worked up to now, with no incidents of fraud since they started keeping track. How many voters are you willing to disenfranchise in order to prevent fraud which does not exist? Is it worth denying 100 legal voters their right to vote in order to prevent one unqualified voter from casting a ballot? Do you think that you are more of an American than Wilola Lee?
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DMDAY44
02:14 PM on 08/16/2012
You cannot sue a representative for a vote they cast, nor can you sue the Governor and/or secretary of state for carrying out the law.
12:12 PM on 08/16/2012
Why can't she get her birth certificate? Mine was lost, and I went to the states website, filled out some paperwork, verfied personal info (birth date, parents names and DOB, hospital ect) sent a notorized affidavit that the information I gave was true. Then about 2 weeks later I had a certified birth certificate. Was it a pain? Yes. But I needed to.

Also, you are not denied a vote without and ID, you can still submit an absentee ballot, and they will verify when the vote is counted. You just can't vote in person.
Gmasters
Never underestimate the Power of Human Stupidity!
12:16 PM on 08/16/2012
The Courthouse in Georgia Burned.
There is No Record of her birth and Pennsylvania won't accept the testimony of Family, friends, neighbors, etc. who have known the woman her entire life.
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surlyatbest
Not so surly
12:18 PM on 08/16/2012
She needs a GA birth cert.
12:19 PM on 08/16/2012
That said, she can still vote either absentee, or PA is offering free ID just for voting, all you need is to sign an affirmation that you have no ID for voting and 2 proofs of residency (mortgage, lease, utility bill ect). Those options are open to her.
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SeriesSeven
Progressivism is a disease.
12:46 PM on 08/16/2012
You don't even need a birth certificate. That is the lie being spread by libs everywhere (that and many others).

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/voter/voteridlaw.shtml
12:12 PM on 08/16/2012
Ohio has the hours for voting now changed. Pennsylvania has the photo ID law changed. Both these states are swing states and the Republicans need to find a way for Democrats not be able to cast their votes. Plain and simple!
12:11 PM on 08/16/2012
She worked for the public schools yet isn't smart enough to figure out how to get a photo ID? No wonder America's children are miles behind the rest of the world.
12:09 PM on 08/16/2012
This is such bs. Why can't she get a Georgia birth certificate? Maybe because it doesn't exist???? Maybe President Obama can help her with that. He seems to know a lot about finding and producing birth certificates.
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LinkTren
Typing with a drink in my hand
12:12 PM on 08/16/2012
Oh look, a b irther
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Aurical
Trolls Should Make Like A Tree & Get Out Of Here!
12:43 PM on 08/16/2012
And out of its natural habitat. Dont speak too loudly, you may frighten it off!
04:14 PM on 08/16/2012
Keep your pants it was a joke ... the birther stuff was bs and 99% of us don't worry about it. You liberals are so sensitive you can't even see humor in ANYTHING.
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stahvinahtist
The Right -Victimhood fine tuned since 1/09
12:12 PM on 08/16/2012
Right'o. Clearly the President has also fooled;
The Illinois DMV
The Illinois Bar Association
Harvard University
The State Department
The FBI
The NSA
The CIA

-time to get cracking, Nancy Drew.
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Top of the World
12:09 PM on 08/16/2012
Fact: Republicans lost some elections in 2008 by 40 votes.

Fact: Republicans lost some elections in 2008 by 400 votes.

Fact: Republicans lost some elections in 2008 by 4,000 votes.

Fact: Republicans lost some elections in 2008 by 40,000 votes.

To fix this -- the only way they could changed the numbers in 2012 -- is to change the votes, thus Voter ID Laws in Republican controlled states.
12:16 PM on 08/16/2012
2010? Didnt count?
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LinkTren
Typing with a drink in my hand
12:19 PM on 08/16/2012
We elected a President in 2010?
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kimo32
I am at a loss for words....
12:56 PM on 08/16/2012
Give me the specific races you are refering too...then I will take what you say into consideration
wgpbp
My Ex-Girlfriend Hated My Dog
12:08 PM on 08/16/2012
I don't believe it.
12:08 PM on 08/16/2012
Why doens't this story get into why she hasn't been able to get a birth certificate for 10 years from the state of Georgia?. Does this woman not drive? If she does is she doing it without a legal drivers license?
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mario andretti
I can't drive 55.
12:11 PM on 08/16/2012
Not driving is grounds for not being able to vote. Is that in the constitution?
12:30 PM on 08/16/2012
No. I was just curious if the woman had a drivers license. If she did wouldn't that be an acceptable i.d. for voting.

People against voter i.d. laws argue certain people wouldn't be able to get an i.d. to vote. The other side claims that not to be the case. This story gives an example of a person who claims she can't get the documentation for an i.d. but never questions or explains why. How do we know she isn't just making the story up.

I would think everybody against voter i.d. laws would want all the informations so they would have an example to use when discussing the issue with somebody.
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TaiJi2
12:45 PM on 08/16/2012
I love the assumption that one must drive a car in order to live!
12:48 PM on 08/16/2012
It was a question not an assumtion. I asked the question becuase it she drives doens't she have a drivers license? And if she has a drivers license does it not qualify as a valid i.d. for voting?

But on to your point to drive a car in order to live. Your right you don't In some places mainly the north east of the country you can live fairly easily without driving. But in much of the midwest life would be much more difficult if you or noone in your family drove.
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Mike Stab
12:07 PM on 08/16/2012
It's kind of refreshing, actually, to see all of these conservatives in support of Big Government limiting individual rights. We should be welcoming them to our side with open arms.