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02:17 PM on 08/20/2012
I think the US should start to do it, since Americans consume the most amount of meat. And the way some slaughterhouses treat those animals...keeping them in the dark, not giving them any room to move about...Pumping the with, who even knows?
Maybe then people will open their eyes to the horrors these helpless animals go through before reaching the dinner plate.
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02:49 PM on 08/20/2012
awesome idea...knowing what goes on and animals are at the very least treated humanly and as you said give people pause to understand everything. Farmers should have nothing to hide. Wayne Pacelle where are you????
01:08 PM on 08/20/2012
C'mon Whole Foods Market...be the first US chain to do the same and not only with pigs, but also with chickens, turkeys, cattle, etc...
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Punks
12:58 PM on 08/20/2012
Excellent idea.

Who would want to eat anything raised in filth and misery.

I wouldn't and won't.
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AngelaSW
difference is constant.
02:01 PM on 08/20/2012
because after all, you are what you eat! ;-)
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plantbasedpunk
live from the PHX
12:52 PM on 08/20/2012
"Farmers are also calling it an invasion of privacy."

Really?? How many businesses do you know that try to hide their operations from clients? It's not invasion of privacy, it's just standard practice. It's what businesses do.

Good for Coles. I hope some day we can adopt the same model here in the states. Of course, if the public saw how these animals were actually treated they probably wouldn't want to eat them.
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adamben
yes i said yes i will yes
03:38 PM on 08/20/2012
ok, lets start with your workplace.
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plantbasedpunk
live from the PHX
03:45 PM on 08/20/2012
My workplace is totally open! We have clients, potential clients and investors come through all the time! We even allow friends and family to come in on Fridays and have lunch with us. That's how a business should operate. Transparency is good business.
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12:36 PM on 08/20/2012
In my good 'ol home state Iowa, it is illegal to film in CAFOs.

Yep, big Ag is already ahead of the game on that one.
02:19 PM on 08/20/2012
CAFOs are the most inhumane horrible idea that the human race (not humane race) has come up with yet. One would expect that big AG is ahead of that especially in Iowa, a state which is in the top in the US for number of Confined Animal Feeding Operations. This practice is an atrocity and inhumane for animals, as is the typical SLAUGHTERHOUSE. Some day the inhabitants of earth will look back 'in the days' and say, "You did WHAT to those animals?" "You ATE them after you tortured them?"...........
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03:16 PM on 08/20/2012
Agreed.

You don't have to tell me. My family had CAFO hog buildings for part of my childhood and adult years. At any one time we were raising about 6,500 pigs in 6 buildings, each about 300' long and 50' wide.

I now organic farm. I've seen the light, and it is good.
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11:43 AM on 08/20/2012
"Farmers are also calling it an invasion of privacy. Animal protection groups, on the other hand, support the idea." I support the idea too, being German I am meat and potatoes, love my steak. But I also want the animals being slaughtered to be treated well, even though they are going to die they should still be treated well and not abused or tortured before being killed. Everyone who buys a package of chicken legs finds that one chicken leg that is broken at the foot bone, I always wonder if that happened before or after the kill, hopefully after. Like the old saying goes, everyone loves sausage but you don't want to see how it is made, people who eat meat still want peace of mind that the animals were not abused, good idea.
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karen lyons kalmenson
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11:41 AM on 08/20/2012
it is bad enough that some humans feel it is okay to partake of animal flesh, but to turn a blind eye to the horrors inflicted on them before they reach your plates?

all slaughterhouses should be CCTV'd
11:07 AM on 08/20/2012
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Continuous Monitoring;

1. It ensures that hygienic standards are being maintained at all times

2. In cases where recalls have been made owing to contamination – videos monitoring the process may help pin-point causes

3. Additionally the consumer might be able to discern actual quality procedures and standards based on viewing practices and methods employed in conjunction with facilities being used

4. Animal treatment and cruelty can also be observed – whilst this does not undo the actual taking of life, it shows the methodologies involved in ending the life per se.

5. It enables easier identification of violation of standards already imposed by existing laws

Final thought:

If cameras can monitor the citizenry for breaking of laws, including traffic laws – Then why can’t the cameras be utilized for monitoring the businesses for breaking of laws?

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12:21 PM on 08/20/2012
Why do you think we have government inspectors in packing plants?
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plantbasedpunk
live from the PHX
12:53 PM on 08/20/2012
Very few. Not enough to ensure food safety and animal welfare.
12:54 PM on 08/20/2012
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No different than cops monitoring traffic.

If cameras can act as an aide in traffic monitoring – then why can’t cameras can act as an aide in monitoring business workings?

Besides, what can be overlooked owing to momentary human lapses by human inspectors can easily be re-evaluated by the cameras.

In analogous terms:

Why do we have camera actions reviewed in games – when we have referees monitoring those games?

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11:07 AM on 08/20/2012
Wow, we are moving forward in this world.
01:09 PM on 08/20/2012
Not the word...yet, just Australia
10:38 AM on 08/20/2012
Just another vegan group trying to turn the world into their view of green
As usual being underhand.
11:08 AM on 08/20/2012
Abuse is abuse is abuse. How we treat animals is a window into our soul.
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12:27 PM on 08/20/2012
F/F!

We treat each other how we treat the Earth and it's living creatures.
11:47 AM on 08/20/2012
Actually, just more humans with compassion to all sentient beings who are treated horrifically for your dining pleasure :/ If there's nothing to hide then this should not be a problem.....
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10:22 AM on 08/20/2012
I am all for these mass production suppliers to be monitered. Animals that are abused will not produce quality meat. That's only reasonable, you reap what you sow. I know I was raised on a farm, and you was taught at an early age, take care of what takes care of you, and people and animals should live in harmony, it's so simple. If any of us kids ever had abused an animal my Dad had a leather belt that would be well used, the animals better have water and food, and a dry bed to sleep in. I don't regret the discipline any of us received if we got lax in our responsibilities . None of our animals ever was abused, well took care of, we had a bountiful supply of fresh eggs and good meat, even at hog killing time the animals the night before was fed good, and blessed for making it possible we ate. What's so hard about that?
11:50 AM on 08/20/2012
I eat no meat at all...BUT I am really happy to read your comment. It proves that there ARE caring people who treat animals with respect...
04:21 PM on 08/20/2012
I really admire the fact that you don't eat any meat at all. Morrissey's right, meat is murder.
03:01 PM on 12/04/2013
Free range eggs taste better than caged eggs because they contain less disease and chemicals. I am confident animals who do not suffer would carry less disease than happy and healthy animals. They would also require less antibiotics because their immune systems will be stronger.
02:23 PM on 08/20/2012
I am all for the monitoring since we have not stopped the killing yet. And we want them to be raised humanely NOT because we want quality meat .........it is because we want them to experience LESS SUFFERING. To want them to product 'quality meat' as a result of less torture is at best not being in tuned to the needs of animals. I was also raised on a farm in Montana. My sister, who is now 64, saw a butchering and to this day she is haunted by it.
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sabelmouse
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06:59 AM on 08/21/2012
let's be realistic. if animals are treated and killed well so as to have good quality meat that's good enough for me.
it's the result that counts not some deep spiritual connection with the animals.
you can enforce the former but not the latter.
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If it was easy they'd call it shopping...
10:13 AM on 08/20/2012
Great idea. A live feed to an internet site would be even better. Oh wait, maybe that's not a great idea after all, even under 'humane' conditions having a viewing public probably wouldn't help sustain sales I suspect, a real appetite suppressor no doubt.
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Llib Noswad
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11:42 AM on 08/20/2012
If they just want spy on a bunch of hogs, why not just put live feed cameras in the white house?
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Gas-Bag
If it was easy they'd call it shopping...
12:12 PM on 08/20/2012
Good idea. C-Span already covers the Congress, to bad hardly anyone watches.
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01:01 PM on 08/20/2012
I suspect it's already been done.
10:00 AM on 08/20/2012
Bravo, finally, it should have been done years ago and certainly the USA should do the same. Animals have rights too, you know.
11:06 AM on 08/20/2012
Why do animals have rights? Who were these right provided by?

Any rights that we have as American's (according to the Declaration of Independence) were "endowed by our creator".

This same "creator" had this to say about animals in Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

The only rights animals have are the ones that we give them.
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Earthling1125
Respect Nature - we are lost without her
12:13 PM on 08/20/2012
The only "rights" any of us have - human OR animal - are what we give ourselves. The concept of "rights" was invented by humans, although it seems too many don't undrstand or respect that concept. Who are you to say animals have no rights? I say they do! What makes you right and me wrong? We share this planet with a myriad of other sentient beings. They have as much right to live their lives, free from abuse, as we do. You can interpret your religious texts any way you like - that has absolutely no bearing on the who does, or does not, have rights.
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12:32 PM on 08/20/2012
Would you care to take any other biblical verses literally word for word?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16)
12:24 PM on 08/20/2012
Can they vote. Tell Obama
09:36 AM on 08/20/2012
This is a great idea and should be required of all factory farms and slaughterhouses, especially in the US. We need to hold the people who operate these facilities accountable for their actions and how they treat those poor, defenseless animals.
11:08 AM on 08/20/2012
Why do you say "especially in the US"? Are you implying that Mexico and Brazil have higher standards of animal husbandry that the US.

If you increase the cost of US products, you are encouraging the consumption of products from lesser developed countries that will also have lesser developed senses of compassion for the animals they produce.
12:14 PM on 08/20/2012
Jeez, how did you come up with such a specific implication from my comment and why just Mexico and Brazil? If you really want to nit pick, why start and leave it there? Why not throw in that I'm suggesting New Zealand and Nicaragua have higher standards of animal husbandry than the US, as well? Since the article discusses how these practices are already in place at some suppliers in Australia and the UK, but does not mention the US, I was merely suggesting the practices begin to be implemented elsewhere and, of course, I'd like to see that done in the country that I inhabit. I think practices like this should be implemented everywhere. I apologize if it came across otherwise.

Also, I think it's rather irresponsible of you to suggest that lesser-developed countries have lesser-developed senses of compassion for the animals that they raise. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the more developed a country gets, the more animals become mere commodities and less sentient beings. Don't forget that when we were once "lesser-developed" we raised all our animals on legit farms in fields by hand, not in some massive metal structure in cages that severely restrict their movement.
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01:33 PM on 08/20/2012
I agree with the "especially in the US" comment because the US consumes a lot more meat, which also contributes to way more pollution, than every other country.
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jonny dipstick
09:36 AM on 08/20/2012
If they have nothing to hide then why not do this? Of course, anyone that has ever been to one knows better. I eat meat, but I refuse to buy from these massive meat plants. Its so disturbing that I just can't deal with it. They need to have cameras and then people will see this and maybe they will clean up their act.